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Hi Tracy, the book Enoch isn't in the KJV Bible, nor any other Christian Bibles that I'm aware of, because it wasn't considered canon. But the man Enoch is mentioned in the KJV Bible: Link

Where is Enoch?

Hi all Happy Saved People, in peace. So true: A word from the Bible can free a human being from all the shackles and bonds T. Levis. I have never experienced the Word of God as something that binds, I share the word happily, It is the Only True word and Jesus Is there. Today it was John Ch. 3.

Today meeting we sang a verse: Purified in the Blood of Jesus, the Holy Blood. The only sacrificial blood that can cleanse us from all sin. And we can live in Freedom, cleansed and pure in His Blood that flowed at Calvary, i said if we hunger for righteousness and confess our sins! Good news? YES!

Gen.3 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes,

it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired t.

Genesis 6:6 And it repented unto the LORD that he had made man upon the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

First the Lord creates man and woman and afterwards He repented.

Tree of Life: Is a symbol of Eternal Life. How should we humans get it? We already have eaten from the Tree of Knowledge? Because with that, we would understand everything eventually. In the last days, and we do the knowledge will be great among many. But human knowledge is foolishness to God.

That is why He repented.

1 Chorintians 3: 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

But if you Donkor Makini are in the spiritual world, we will be able to see parallels to this in the earthlyto. Please share Holy Bible words.

You can prophesy but never be afraid to share it. All we have is the work of the Lord, not our own. For us, it is impossible to do something ourselves really, because it becomes very earthly. We want to live in the Spirit, even though we are in the flesh. Dear friends we reach for what lies ahead. We have got something that is so much bigger than what is on earth. Love you in Christ.



God bless you in the Holy Name above all other Names Jesus Christ our Lord.

Genesis 6:5-8, Genesis 6:11-13, Genesis 6:19-21, yet HE preserved life. Genesis 9:9-17, John 3:15-16,

You don't need to look far to see disregard for life of babies, abortion kills millions & who spares a single child from it? Spade & nueter goes on constantly of animals destroying seed before reproduction. Crimes, injustice, lies, greed etc. If it was so wicked & coucorrupt then? I don't want to imagine. )=

Psalms 139, Psalms 111, Matthew 9:26, Matthew 14:14, Isaiah 53:5, 1 Peter 2:24, Revelation 7:16-17,

Hi Becki. I know that Genesis 6:1-4 has been a passage variously translated by many. If the fallen angels were the 'sons of God', they obviously were given (or, had) powers of procreation with humans. This aspect alone separates those that believe the giants (nephilim) resulted from such a union, from those who believe that's impossible.

And then we have the view: that Genesis 6:1-3 (of the sons of God coming to human women) as a separate event to that of v4a, "There were giants in the earth in those days". In other words, that the appearance of giants were not associated with this abnormal procreation between spirit beings & human beings; that they were simply tall people (maybe of both men & women) that were like that because of gene abnormality. And that (rest of v4) the progeny of that union became "mighty men of renown", were not necessarily referring to those of giant appearance, but to those of verse 2.

The third view: that the "sons of God" were of those who remained faithful to God (i.e. Seth's progeny), whereas those of Cain's, forgot the Lord & went into evil idolatrous ways.

It would be difficult from such a brief account, be able to give a clear answer - each option having some merit. But to imagine a fusion of human & animal into one grotesque creature would be hard to swallow. I hope that the Spirit will bring us all into a greater understanding of this, as we learn more of man's wickedness & God's graciousness that pervades His Plan for this world.

Hello Roni. Apart from what we read in Genesis chapters 6 to 8, we have little else to help us know exactly what this covering of the Ark was. We do know that in the construction of the Ark, God required a window be made ( Genesis 6:16) - maybe for light & ventilation. This window would have probably been at the highest point of the Ark (a cubit = < 2 ft), below the sloping roof line & may have extended the length & breadth of both sides of the Ark. It could be that a part of this window, or another aperture lower down, was covered (with some sort of skin or wood) that could be easily removed for Noah to view the outside world (or, sea levels). Just a few of my imaginations - others might have other thoughts.

Hi David, it seems you have a strong opinion of this. Is it right to call someone evil who simply believes Genesis 6:4?

It seems like some translations that call it Nephilim because they made a decision to leave the word roughly as it sounds in Hebrew. But translated is 'giants'. So, I'm not sure if you're against the N word or the concept of there being giants or something else. But this interpretation doesn't appear to be out of thin air and does legitimately appear in scripture:

Genesis 6:1-7

God bless

The Holy Spirit did exist & manifest itself in people prior. Genesis 1:2, Genesis 6:3, Genesis 41:38, Judges 3:10, Judges 6:3, Judges 11:29, 1 Samuel 11:6-7, 1 Samuel 16:13, 2 Kings 2:9,

1 Samuel 16:14, 1 Samuel 19:20,

There are more references. Here are some more study references. Hope this helps.

appears to be different in the manifestation unto many people at the same time with many events occurring.

Also people being able to transfer the HOLY Spirit to another seems to appear after CHRIST was resurrected from death & the grave. Acts 1, Acts 9:17,31, Acts 10:44, Acts 11:15,16, Acts 13:52, Acts 19:1-11,

Ephesians 5:9, Galatians 3:14, Romans 8:1,

Please read the WORD of GOD,

It was most likely because of examples from their fathers. Jacob/Israel even Abraham. May have started with Lamech Genesis 4:19, Genesis 6:2-3, Genesis 1:25, Genesis 25:6, Genesis 31:50,

Deuteronomy 7:2-4, 1 Kings 11:1-11,

Alex

I think you are still misunderstanding the concept: God tugs on the heart or calls us we listen and except God are we turn a death ear to God. If we except the tug or the call from God than the blood is applied to our life our sins are forgiven. But this is where the freewill comes in if we turn a death ear to God than God leaves us in our sins and at judgement, we will receive our reward good or bad, Heaven are Hell. God said in Genesis 6:3 My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: this is the reason for our freewill to except God or to deny God. If we deny God than the blood can not be applied to our life. But if we except God than the blood can be applied to our life. Matthew 7:6 tells us not to give what is holy to the dogs, now in saying that do you think God is going to do that which he told us not to do and do you think God is going to cast his precious blood before swine. Just saying.

God Bless

stay prayed up and ready to go up

cowboy

Vincent.

You quoted

"Four hundred years in Egypt as owners, paid back by four hundred years of slavery under the house of Israel (UK/US) Isaiah 14:2 The curse of Cannan is representative of certain Africans."

Well to begin with Isaiah 14:2 have not been fulfilled yet,

Look at verse 3: And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

Do Israel have the rest and live without fear over there as promised in Isaiah 14:3.?

The question is was man delivered from the curse of Adams transgression after the flood? I think not, If so we wouldn't have the account in Genesis 9:25-27. Nor would we have the account of Noah drunken with wine.

that you wrongfully ascribe to a people of today we know as black people.

All 8 souls on the Ark were under Adam's transgression "apart from Gods Atonement,' Genesis 6:14. The word pitched used here is "Atonement"

Apart from God's grace we're all Lost and unrighteous and there is no partiality with God.

Genesis 6:8-9. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

These are the generations of Noah: (Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations,) and Noah walked with God.

We know Noah was just/Justified. In which you can only be by faith! They had faith in their sacrifice and offerings which we know they submitted to the Lord as we see as early as Genesis 4:4.

This is a carnal insert to a Christian forum; we should covet the new birth in the spirit and not rank in our old nature "The flesh.

God bless.

The standard Christian approach to immunization is "cooperating with nature" as designed by God whereas these new mRNA and DNA vaccines are a "control over nature" approach that is playing God with creation, specifically the image of God. Our unique genetic code is an essential bridge between our soul and my body; thus, knowingly having our body receive code within our cells foreign to our own DNA and RNA to create partial foreign objects (s-protein) to then generate immunity is playing God with His creation in an essential way that is not a Christian "conformity to nature" approach. All three currently accepted vaccines deliver genetic material to an individual's cells: mRNA vaccines deliver mRNA code, and Johnson & Johnson directly delivers DNA. Even more problematic for my deeply held religious beliefs is the fact that these new vaccine types are not long-lasting, because of this "genetic fabrication" approach, requiring constant "boosters" further injecting this code into my cells over and over, thus, repeating this personally sinful and objectionable process outside of God's design and impacting God's image.

Hi Maranatha Nimrod was a real piece of work who was absolutely defiant in the face of the True God

In Genesis 10:9 the word before in this context is defiant or against the same word used in Genesis 6:11

where the earth wa corrupt before the lord.

Earl, thanks for sharing your opinion. It helps me to understand you better, Thanks

Sister GiGi, I have nothing against brick and mortar churches, God has them there to preach His Word. I am not saying that they don't preach the gospel of salvation, they do, what they don't do is bring the saved to the maturity of the Word. I have family members and friends that have gone to church 50 years and are no more mature in the word than when they first believed. I have numerous close relatives and friends that are pastors, but have no knowledge of God's word other than I'm saved and going to heaven. The gospel is, there is going to be a kingdom on earth. God is calling and choosing those that will rule and reign with them. How many churches teach this. There is going to be billions of people raise from the dead that have never heard one word about Christ. God is preparing a priesthood to bring the gospel to those billions, to judge and govern those people, God's kingdom. The only time you reside in heaven is the period of time God is gathering his elect (thousand years, not literally one thousand), when the elect have been gathered everything else will happen on earth. How can one be a priest in God's kingdom if you don't believe what he says. ( Philippians 1:29)( 1 Peter 1:21)

Earl, Bless your heart. It seems that you may have an angst against "brick and mortar" churches. That is sad to me, as soo many people have been helped to come to know the gospel and turned to Jesus through people who attend such places. God is using these places to build His church family just like He is similarly using those who are not affiliated with a particular church congregation. I have had seasons in my life where I was part of a particular church fellowship and seasons when I have not been so. In either situation, God meets me were I am and grows me to be more and more like our Lord, Jesus.

I think that it is important to stay humble enough to know that in both situations, we are not the final arbiter of what is sound doctrine/beliefs. It is the Holy Spirit who is this arbiter, and He has been working within the Church since Jesus first began the Church when our Lord called the disciples and began preaching to the people. The Holy Spirit as given to the Church to confirm the Truth that Jesus taught, to help the disciples to remember what Jesus taught them ( a lot of which was not written down in the gospels) and teach the disciples all that was necessary for the work of the Church to evangelize and exist as Body of Christ on earth after Jesus ascended to the Father (as Jesus stated He was going back to the Father (two different Persons) and sending the Holy Spirit (the 3rd Person).

Sister GiGi, they are complete opposites of the doctrines of man. Does the doctrines of the brick and mortar church teach the saints are going to judge the world. No, they teach when you die you either go to heaven or to hell. You, yourself in a new location. You are not going to be yourself, but a new creation in Christ Jesus. Man does not want to lose his own identity ( Matthew 16:25) and become the IMAGE of CHRIST. No greater love has a man than to die for his brother, Christ died for you, you have to die for Christ. This the first death ( Revelation 14:13).

John 17:21-24

Dear Earl

Thank you for sharing this information. It will help me to understand your point of view better. I do think that these tenets that you have adopted are at variance with most Christian belief.

From your post, I gather that you are older than I am by 10 or more years. You may be closer to entering eternity than I am, but we both are looking forward to what the Lord has in store for us when we leave this life and receive the fullness of our salvation. God Bless.

Sister GiGi. I don't have to study those doctrines, I was taught and raised to believe those doctrines, and did believe them from the time I was about 15 years old until I was about 68 years old. God cause me through circumstances he brought about to do nothing but study his word form morning to night, seven days a week, for five and a half years. I no longer believe man has free will, I no longer believe in a trinity, I believe there is a Father and a Son(s), I no longer believe that most of mankind will go to hell; but, believe Jesus was sent by the Father to save the world and the son will not fail in that commission of his Father. You are right, our beliefs will determine whether we are the ones judging the world with Christ, or the ones being judged by Christ and his elect.

Thomas

Yes, there were giants in the earth or on the earth. These giants were from the sons of God, these sons of God were angels. When God created Adam God made Adam in his image. So, Adam was one of the sons of God. Genesis 6: 2 tells us that the sons of God took them wives of all which they chose. The Angels have a freewill just as you do, they can choose to serve God are not, just as humans can choose to serve God are not, and if a human or angel refuses to serve God the angel is sent to the bottomless pit chained, and the human that refuses to serve God when he dies is sent to hell.

Genesis 6: 1- 6

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

God Bless

stay prayed up and ready to go up

cowboy

Earl,

I do not believe that Jesus was only a man and that He received the Holy Spirit at His baptism. I do not believe that He was only a man that was filled with God at His baptism. These views have been denounced as heresies throughout the centuries. To believe that Jesus was only human, then such belief denies that He was divine, as well from birth. Denying the divinity of Jesus denies that He pre-existed for all of eternity in the Trinitarian Godhead for all eternity and never had a beginning as God the Son. If Jesus died as only a human, His sacrifice could only reconcile man to man, not man to God. But, the church has affirmed that Jesus was fully human and fully divine in one nature (without mixing the natures to become a third type of nature). It is this human/divine nature that made his sacrifice efficacious for mankind by being a perfectly sinless man and perfectly and equally divine Son of God, (as the Father and the Spirit are perfectly and equally divine) He was able to satisfy what God required of man to be in right relationship with God (which no other human can be) and being divine, He is able to reconcile us to God and raise up us up to have union with God, as He promised at the Last Supper as He prayed. John 17:20-23. Christian orthodox teaching has stated that our Savior is equally human and divine because that is what was necessary for mankind to be fully redeemed to what God willed for us to become in Him.

Earl, I know that we will agree to disagree on this, but I do think that it is vital for believers to know correct doctrine, and I contend for the orthodox teachings of the church because it is important to refute heretical ideas. We cannot both be correct in this. If you are willing, you may want to study the various heresies rejected by the church over the centuries concerning the nature of Jesus Christ as to what the heretics taught about this topic, and what the church pointed out as the error in the heretics teaching.

Blessings, always.

No Jesus was not born with the spirit

God the father god the Holy Spirit

One and the same

John chapter 1 verse 1 and verse 2

In the beginning was the word the word was with god and the word was god

2. The same was in the with god

3.all things that were made by him

And without him was not anything made that was made

4 in him was life and the life was light of men

Which means god the father god the son and god the Holy Ghost

Which are the same had no beginning and had no end

Jesus obviously did have the spirit

And Jesus had no beginning and no end

Bless you

Amen Sister GiGI, I knew you would disagree, but there is coming a time when, ALL WILL BE IN UNITY.

All of this is God's plan, he has set brother against brother and sister against sister. This teaches us, the fruits of the spirit.

Our thanks to the all knowing God.

Dear brother Earl,

I read your post and cannot agree with what you stated about our Lord, Jesus. I hold to the long held orthodox view that Jesus was wholly God and wholly man in united in one person. This is the understanding of His nature presented by the church in the first 3 centuries of existence as it addressed various other views about Jesus-Arianism, Nestorianism, and others (which we determined to be heretical).

I hold this view because I believe the Scriptures support this view over the other views people propose about our Lord. Thank you for sharing. We just disagree on this point, and I believe it is a very crucial point. This is why I speak up about it.

Sister GiGi, I agree with Rick, Christ was born a man like unto us.

He received the Spirit at the baptism by John. That's why he told John it was of necessity to be baptised by him.

The Spirit, as the likeness of a dove, was visible evidence of this baptism of Spirit.

In Isaiah we have the prophecy;

Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

Isaiah 11:2 And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom, and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord;

Isaiah 11:3 And make him of QUICK UNDERSTANDING of the fear of the Lord ....

Jesus was GIVEN this as a MAN at his baptism of spirit, just as we as MEN are GIVEN THE SAME. He was made to have this, by the Father, not born with it.

Jesus was not fully man and fully God. He is a BODY FILLED with GOD. He said of myself I can do nothing. If he were fully God he could of him self done All things, but he said I do ALL things through my Father.

Rick, I did not mean to say that you have said that Jesus became the Son of God at His baptism. I am sorry if you took it that way. What I meant was that if one can say that Jesus did not have the Spirit before His baptism, one could also say that He became the Son of God at that time, too. It would be logical to think so. But I do not believe either statement to be true.

And, you are right, we each are free to believe our own way. I respect that.

Thank you Ron! I appreciate your input and will certainly pray for understanding. Hava terrific day!

Gigi P.S. I never said he became Gods Son he was Gods Only begotten Son period, I don't understand why

I share something then people make a statement that I didn't but that's o.k. So as to not argue I'm moving on.

God Bless

Gigi What I stated absolutely takes nothing away from Him the only begotten Son of God

so its your privilege to not agree.

Good morning, Rick

I do not agree that Jesus was not born wit the spirit. I believe Jesus was fully human and fully God at conception. He always possessed the Spirit. In reference to John 1:32, at Jesus' baptism the Father and Spirit manifested with Him to affirm to those around Him that He was the Messiah, not to fill Him with the Spirit. If your interpretation is correct, then the it would also be true that the He became the Son of the Father at that time. But He was always the Son of the Father, Who said at His baptism, This IS my only begotten Son, in Whom I am well pleased. Jesus was already His Son. It does not say He became His Son. Same is true of the Spirit. Jesus was One in Unity with the and Spirit from all eternity, therefore as fully God and fully man, He had the Spirit since conception.