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So Genesis 6:3 , does it mean that there are 120 years until God destroys the earth, or that God has a mercy line and someone who knows the truth can only sin and neglect so great salvation for a set period that God only knows and that a person could find himself unable to repent even if wanting to, does this verse actually mean that there is a limit to which God will allow a person to refuse his calling.

Mishael comment: The verses show Noah's age during Bible events. I didn't show them, but Noah made sacrifices upon an altar to God; worshipping God in a time of gross sin. He was human and subject to the aging process.

I believe there is a prophetic reason why Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without seeing physical death. And... we will be witnesses of that reason.

Genesis 6:8

But Noah found GRACE in the eyes of the LORD.

Genesis 6:22

Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

Genesis 7:6

And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.

Genesis 8:13

And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.

Genesis 9:28

And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.

Genesis 9:29

And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.

Mishael: 'Grace', means Noah had the unmerited favor of God. He didn't earn it.

Monica, I don't believe we can imagine the true feelings of Jesus and what He was fixing to face, but the verses that stand out to me that shows the most human feelings of Jesus and what was on His mind, when Jesus was in the garden. He went to pray to the Father right before He was arrested. Jesus knew what He would soon endure, being arrested, spit on, beaten, nailed to a cross and to bear all the sins of this world. He even asked the Father if that cup could be removed.

Luke 22:41-46 (KJV) And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, 42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. 43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. 44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. 45 And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow, 46 And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation.

God bless, Ron

Those who he was laying his life down for. He was looking from past history, way into the future when you would be born and need a savior; on such and such day. That's why I praise Him. :D

wat was on jesus mind as the time crucifixion approached?

Why did God sent a flood?

We are beginnning to study the Doctrine of God. What is the Doctrine of God, and what do we need to know concerning that as disciples?

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God is good

The LORD God had issued several covenants, starting with Adam. When God issued a covenant, it was essentially God telling His people that what He would utter to them would be his pledge (or, promise) that something would happen.

In the case of Genesis 6:18, we refer to it as the Noahic Covenant. And this Covenant is found by reading from Genesis 8:20 to 9:17. We see that after the Flood had assuaged & the Ark settled on dry ground, Noah offered burnt offerings to the LORD (probably in worship & thankfulness for their preservation). And the LORD "smelled a sweet savour" from these showing His acceptance of the offering & of Noah & his family. And so the Covenant was issued.

And this Covenant included: no further curse to the ground we walk on; that the seasons will continue, as will day & night; & the LORD will never again destroy the Earth with a flood, providing a bow (rainbow) in the sky as a token of His Pledge. And we have indeed enjoyed God's Mercies & Pledge He made to Noah. However, the Apostle Peter in 2 Peter 3:5-11, reminds his readers that by the same Word of God that brought on the Flood that destroyed every living creature not in the Ark, so too will God once again bring destruction upon the Earth, this time not by water (according to that Pledge) but by fire. Therefore, knowing the certainty of God's Word & Promises, Peter challenges us: "Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness?"

Genesis 6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant;

What is the Covenant about? How to understand it? Praise the Lord!

Genesis 6:3, refers, as Adam indicated, to the time that God had given to the people to consider & repent before He sent the deluge to wipe out mankind. It hasn't got anything to do with the allotted time given to man from time of birth to death.

However, Psalm 90:10 reveals a reduction of the average time limit for mankind to 70 yrs (three score & ten years). But the Psalm goes on to say (verse 12): "So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom." We need to take stock of our lives & the Grace of God given to us, lest our days come to an end suddenly, as it did to those who perished in the Flood.

"For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgement and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengenance belongeth to me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" Hebrews 10:26-31

"We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive the grace of God in vain" 2 Corinthians 6:1

"I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth" Genesis 6:7

"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord" Genesis 6:8

"Thou shall not Kill" Exodus 20:13

"Thou shall not commit adultery" Genesis 20:14

"An Ammonite or a Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the Lord for ever" Deuteronomy 23:3

"and Ruth the Moabitess.." Ruth 1:22

"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy" Romans 9:18

"..ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ" Jude 1:4

"Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" Romans 6:1-2

"Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey: whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" Romans 6:16

"the soul that sinneth , it shall die" Ezekiel 18:14

Dear Vince, I just noticed the insult: "So to be wise, one has to know good and evil. This will take time for you to get."

Matthew 12:36-37

"Are you saying here that God created the world and out of no where evil entered the creation? That would mean God don't know all things. God put evil and death here, therefore, this world was not intended to be everlasting paradise."

God is so powerful that He can choose to be in the moment and can change His mind too. Jonah 3:10, Genesis 18:26, Exodus 32:14, Genesis 6:6. So, one could take the other side of the argument and ask, do you not think God is powerful enough to change his mind or live temporarily in the moment and react as things unfold?

I don't think anyone can say with 100% certainty as to God's intent, his thoughts or feelings ( 1 Corinthians 2:11), but Genesis 6:6 does say God grieved and had some regret for making man in the garden. He also had regret for how evil mankind had become prior to the flood. He loved us enough to give us freedom of choice, but when so many people choose evil I'm sure God doesn't take kindly to that. It should be equally upsetting to those committing the evil, but if not now, they absolutely will regret it later.

Dawn,

"Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, EIGHT SOULS were saved by water." 1Pe 3:20

Noah, his three sons and each of their wives: EIGHT SOULS. No "Kenites!" Genesis 6:19 is not referring to humans. You forgot to include the next verse.

Yes, Noah was uncorrupted in his genealogy, which is why the rest of mankind was destroyed in the flood.

There is one race, humans, where skin shade and other features were built into the our DNA. The "races" resulted from the separation of people groups by language and subsequent migration at Babel in Genesis 11, in order to force mankind to "fill the earth." I'm not tying any particular "race" to Canaan.

Cain's descendants did not all die in Noah's flood.-

"And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female." Genesis 6:19

"OF EVERY LIVING THING of ALL FLESH, two of EVERY SORT shalt thou bring into the ark..."

- Kenite's were also on the ark. How did descendants of Cain, the Kenites, wind up in 1 Chronicles (& elsewhere)?

"...Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." Genesis 6:9

Noah and his family were the only "perfect" in breed/pedigree. All the races were created on the 6th day of God's creation ( Gen. 1:26-27). If Noah's family were the only people to be saved, then how do we account for all the races we still have today? Please don't say it's because Canaan was cursed ( Gen. 9:25). Canaan was cursed by Noah, not God; and Noah cursing Canaan would in NO way create another race - absolutely biologically impossible.

Louis,

Man's turning point from the beginning has been, "Do I believe God?"

God gave Adam ONE commandment. Eve was deceived but Adam chose to rebel, which is the evidence of unbelief.

The entire plot line of The Bible shows God pursuing man and man's responses.

Able responds by believing God while Cain does not. Genesis 4:3-5

Noah responds by believing God Genesis 6:22

Abraham believes God Genesis 15:6

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And it all culminated in Jesus and is encapsulated in...

"And they said, BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Act 16:31

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man BELIEVETH unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Rom 10:9-10

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have BELIEVED in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" 1Co 15:1-4

Upon true saving BELIEF in God man's position with God changes. Before BELIEF he is an enemy of God. After true saving BELIEF in God he is at peace with God.

"For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life." Rom 5:10

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:" Rom 5:1

"Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen." Jud 1:24-25 (KJVA)

The genealogy from Genesis 5:1 to Genesis 6:9 is Noah's. Since he descends from Seth, only Seth is mentioned. He doesn't mention either Cain or Abel directly. He only notes that Adam "had sons and daughters" to let us know that Adam and Eve had more than just the three sons mentioned by name in Adam's records. In every generation there is likely to have been multiple siblings, but only the one that directly leads to Noah is mentioned each time.

Thank you for that information; I would have liked to know more about the first Bible you mentioned, with the missing first page, & done some research on it. I can agree with the other reference you gave from the other Bible (i.e. Genesis 6:5 with Romans 1:28-31), even though I don't have that particular cross reference in my Bible. But to connect Jeremiah 2:23 to Genesis 3:12.13 is mystifying to me.

Anyway, I tried to do a Cross-Reference search via Open Bible & I did find these two references, along with many others, that were cross referenced to Genesis 3:12,13. Maybe you could go back to that old Bible you used to find this reference & see where the cross reference is applied, as where the a, b, c, etc are placed are important.

Apparently, in Genesis 3:13, the phrase "What is this that thou hast done?" is the connection to Jeremiah 2:23, "know what thou hast done". So the cross reference has nothing to do with dromedaries, but only a connection to "thou hast done". Any other connection would seem totally unreasonable, whether in context or in English usage. So, I won't pursue further your application of the dromedary to how God looks at us sinners; or even the use of other animals (fish, gnats, creeping things, etc.) for the same reason. Maybe, it might be interesting to check out your other cross references, particularly associating the various types of fornication to being the cause of other sins. As you know, I understand that fornication is just another sin along with every other sin.

Yes, Today there are a lot of Domestic Terrorist Groups in The USA and they have Targeted Religious Groups and Have threatened to Disenfranchise this Population.

How Can The Church Leadership Help Preserve the Civil Rights of Religious People and Protect them from Domestic Terrorist Predators? There are Currently Cases Of Forced Prostitution on Church Members. They Need to Feel Safe.

What Can Be Done?

The Bible doesn't specifically tell us how the drop in human longevity changed from the large numbers you read of in Genesis chapter 5, to smaller numbers as you progressively go through that Book & into the rest of biblical history.

We can assume that when God created humans, He intended that we live forever. When Adam & Eve sinned, not only their hearts became sin-tainted, but their intimate walk with God (i.e. their relationship) was affected & the duration of their earthly existence was shortened. Even though Adam lived for 930 years (& Eve possibly for a similar duration), even that was abnormal.

Then we come to Noah & the Great Flood that wiped away all living creatures, except Noah & his family. I should say, that the reference to 120 years in Genesis 6:3 is often taken as 'God's shortening of man's ages to 120 years, however, that actually is a reference to the time God gave to man before he would be wiped off the Earth because of his unrestrained sin. So these great ages of humans continued until the Flood. Post Flood: ages began to reduce as we see in Noah's son, Shem ( Genesis 11:10 ff) & others in history, but this wasn't the rule.

So, it's understood that with a possible defective gene in Noah/his wife that was subsequently passed onto his son's & then down the line to us, the effects of sin that had increasingly affected our bodies, & even our changing conditions (chemical levels in the atmosphere, diet, mental/emotional stability, life's complications bringing on pressures, etc.) could well have contributed to a much shorter life span. In Psalm 90:9,10, Moses states: "The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow". Though Moses himself lived for many more years than 70, 120 years in fact, he probably envisaged that man's days 'were numbered' & if we should live beyond 70, life would get more difficult, finally extracting our final breath.

Verse 2 and 4 brings to mind just what is the sons of God and the women of man. Where did the giants come from and where did they go???

I've heard that before as well, but we have no clue on the nature of spirits and angels, and what they exactly can and can't do. Also, Genesis 6:4;

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

It differentiates "sons of God" and "daughters of men", implying that the sons of God mentioned are not men. I also heard the phrase "sons of God" in the original texts in this context were specifically used for referring to angels.

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I think Rob, a dictionary wouldn't be very useful in this matter. So your answer is: "The Holy Spirit is of God". Well, that's correct but to expand on that a little, if I may amplify your thoughts. In great care, I would suggest that you also believe that the Holy Spirit is a Person, i.e. He comes from within the Godhead, sent into the World of sinners to convict & to indwell those who have been born again that they might lead new lives with a new Power within.

That He must be a Person, as shown in many examples: Intelligence ( 1 Corinthians 2:10,11); has feelings ( Ephesians 4:30); has a Will ( 1 Corinthians 12:11); has a Mind ( Romans 8:27); teaches ( John 14:26); guides ( Romans 8:14, John 16:13); commissions ( Acts 13:4); commands ( Acts 8:29); restrains ( Genesis 6:3, 2 Thessalonians 2:7); intercedes ( Romans 8:26); speaks ( John 15:26). Though He may be a spirit as from God, out of God's Being, He is the very Expression & Person of God Himself. I hope you agree to that, or am I putting words in your mind or mouth?

Then we come to God's Word. As seen with the Spirit, the Word of God is unseen, the very Articulation of God in creating, giving commands & direction whether to heavenly hosts, to His people on Earth or through His prophets & in other utterances that we're unaware of. Now there may be other aspects of God's Being that we're not told of, but of the Word & the Spirit, there's no dispute. The difficulty now for some remains with the 'Word'.

If then, God sends out His Spirit to accomplish His Purposes, why is it so hard to comprehend that He sends out His Word to do likewise? Or is that because the Spirit has no flesh, therefore it must hold true that God's Word can only be spirit without flesh? What if God chose to give His Spirit flesh maybe that would make it easier to understand the 'Word' easier.

Carol the only righteous people were on the earth at the time of the flood were noah and his family many people think Genesis 6 ;2 refers to beings of the true God not so look up original language translation. Also old testament law forbad any written recording of any spiritual occurance had to have Gods name on it. That does not mean the True God actually did the work. Remember John 10: 9+ 10 the thief cometh not but to steal kill and destroy. Thats the adversary also in corinthians the last enemy to be destroyed is death therefore death is an enemy of God.

M Not agreeing with that angels are spiritual beings whether from the true God or messengers from the enemy and spirit cannot have intercourse with flesh and blood.

The sons of God in Genesis 6 seems to refer to fallen angels, who were directly created by God instead of through a lineage. It seems they had children with human women and the offspring were giants. The giants were wiped out in the flood (entirely?), and I seem to recall that the fallen angels who had the offspring were sealed somewhere beneath the earth. However, I can't currently find where I read that.

I don't believe that Genesis 6:3 tells us how long we can live. Moses, who wrote that verse, lived longer than that. The 120 years refers to the time then left before the coming flood.

Did GOD kill the sons of GOD in the flood.

Finding hope in Genesis 6 and 7 . There are things Written such as 7 of cleaned beast and 2 of uncleaned but must take male and female of each even of foels 7 cleaned and 2 uncleaned then later it says Noah took 2 by 2 of each. So if he obeyed did he not take 7 cleaned?

Also another question is it stated 7 rained days flood lasted on earth 40 days 40 night then another verse said the water lasted on earth 150 days. Why did people say it rained 40 days and 40 nights so after then the water receaded after 150 days plus the 40 day and night plus the 7?

God's sons were returning to procreate because only God can do what he do and was Satan haddeas the first son who went against God then more of God's son Zeus all in the Greek mythology?