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Wesley's Notes for Ephesians 6:12

For our wrestling is not only, not chiefly, against flesh and blood - Weak men, or fleshly appetites. But against principalities, against powers - The mighty princes of all the infernal legions. And great is their power, and that likewise of those legions whom they command. Against the rulers of the world - Perhaps these principalities and powers remain mostly in the citadel of their kingdom of darkness. But there are other evil spirits who range abroad, to whom the provinces of the world are committed. Of the darkness - This is chiefly spiritual darkness. Of this age - Which prevails during the present state of things. Against wicked spirits - Who continually oppose faith, love, holiness, either by force or fraud; and labour to infuse unbelief, pride, idolatry malice, envy, anger, hatred. In heavenly places - Which were ONCE their abode, and which they still aspire to, as far as they are permitted.

People's Bible Notes for Eph. 6:12

For we wrestle. Fights then were a hand to hand grapple. Not against flesh and blood. While flesh and blood may seem to assail us, the real enemies are evil spiritual powers. Against principalities, against powers. These terms designate different rank of evil spirits. These were fallen angels (see Ro 8:38). The same terms are applied to the different ranks of holy angels in Eph 1:21. Against the rulers of the darkness of this world. Satan is described as the ruler of this world (Joh 12:31 14:30 16:11) and the god of this world ( 2Co 4:4). He uses for his dominion not only evil spirits, but wicked men, and his sway is darkness rather than light. Against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. "Spiritual [hosts] of wickedness" (Revised Version). It is likely that the meaning is the same as in Eph 2:2 The high places, the air, is a dwelling place and medium of these evil influences.

THEY HAVE TO BORROW A BODY, by a humans permission; at risk of losing their soul.

Job 1:6 - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Isaiah 14:12-15 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Ezekiel 28:14 - Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Ezekiel 28:15 - Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Ezekiel 28:16 - By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Luke 10:18 - And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

John 8:44 - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of DEATH, that is, the devil;

LEGALLY, because Jesus (2nd Adam) WON back the Authority FROM SATAN that First Adam lost in the Garden of Eden.

Jesus, by the Holy Spirit, was conceived becoming the SON OF MAN. All God, all HUMAN.

Satan and Demons are NOT HUMAN. They borrow bodies: dogs, frogs and witches who lend their bodies.

CAREFULLY READ EPHESIANS 6

Noah , an his family were the only ones to not mingle with the fallen angels

Hence, the geber ,.. ( giants ) the fallen angels, created a total mess ,. Trying to mess up Gods plan ,.. mixing a spiritual body with a flesh body,. I cannot even imagine the pain those women went threw giving birth ,..

peace

Of Gen. 6:2; "they (angels) took them (daughters) wives of all which they chose" =

Scriptures reveal angels may take on human form:

+ In Genesis 18:1-8, The LORD and two holy angels visited Abraham and Sarah in the form of "three men" in human bodies. During that visit, these angels conversed and ate with Abraham in the same manner as would human men.

+ Two of these angels in human form proceeded to visit Lot in Sodom ( Gen. 19). While there, the Sodomites mistook these angels as actual human men and attempted to physically sodomize them ( Gen. 19:5).

+ At least two angels appeared as "young men" ( Mk. 16:5) after LORD JESUS' Resurrection wearing "shining garments" (Lu. 24:4).

+ While the disciples strained to see the final glimpses of The LORD's Ascension into Heaven, "two men {? angels?} stood by them in white apparel", and promised CHRIST's Second Coming "in like manner as ye have seen HIM go into Heaven" (Ac. 1:10-11).

Because angels are immortal and not subject to death, they have no need to procreate lawfully through marriage as do humans (cp Mt. 22:30; Mk. 12:25).

Yet, these angels assumed human form and married, co-habitated, and bore children through human "daughters of men" (v.2).

Of Gen. 6:2 =

Besides here, the Old Testament uses the expression "the sons of GOD" to identify supernatural angelic beings:

1st, Job 1:6-7 describes "sons of GOD" presenting "themselves before The LORD." Note that "Satan (the supreme demonic angelic principality) came also among them."

2nd, Job 38:7 records JEHOVAH asking Job

"[4] Where wast thou [7] When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of GOD shouted for joy?"

Here, both expressions, "morning stars" and "sons of GOD" identify supernatural angels reacting to GOD's wondrous Creative Power.

The Old Testament does not use this expression to refer to believing saints except for the possible exception of Hosea 1:10: "In the place where it was said unto them (Israel), Ye are not MY people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of The Living GOD." The LORD, through HIS prophet Hosea, prophetically promised Israel a restoration far into the future.

Moreover, the designation "men" translates from the Hebrew noun "adam" (Eng. transliteration; pronounced "aw-DAWM"). Scriptures record the term "adam" (aprox. 529 times) to refer to all mankind (generically), both male and female, as the highest created species of living creatures (e.g. Gen. 1:26): "GOD said, Let US make man (Heb. "adam") in OUR IMAGE, after OUR Likeness."

Therefore, these "daughters of men" are the human female offspring of human fathers and mothers. Certain demonic angels saw these "daughters" as physically attractive ("fair"). Their "fairness" spawned unholy desires within these wanton angels who looked upon them, and desired them as objects solely for fulfilling their lusts.

The theory that the "sons of GOD" are the GODly sons of Seth's lineage while the "daughters of men" are the GOD rejecting daughters of Cain's descendants proves baseless and erroneous.

Consider the following points of argument:

> Seth's male descendants were not all inherently righteous by default, simply because Seth was their forefather.

> From the silence of Scriptures, Bible students cannot assume all of Cain's descendants were evil and rebellious.

> A marriage between the descendant males of Seth and the female descendants of Cain would not automatically guarantee an offspring of giants. If this were true, all "unequally yoked" ( 2Cor. 6:14) parents, if one is an unbeliever while the other is a believer, would produce grotesque hybrid giants.

> If Seth's male offspring were inherently righteous enough to deserve the title "sons of GOD", then this demands answers to many questions:

? Why is Noah solely and singularly described as "a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with GOD" ( Gen. 6:9; cp. 7:1)?

? Why weren't any others of Seth in the Ark besides Noah, a descendant of Seth? Must we assume Noah was Seth's only and final righteous offspring?

? Did their marrying an unbeliever forfeit GOD's Mercy and abandon them to die with the rest of the wicked as The LORD de-creed ( Gen. 6:7)? The LORD would not do so according to HIS Promises to Abraham concerning Lot's safety in Sodom. Six times The LORD promised Abraham, "I will spare all the place for their (the righteous) sakes" (see Gen. 18:26-32).

This theory implies that if Seth's male descendants were truly "sons of GOD", then they all, without exception, had to sin so grievously as to lose this title. So much for the Doctrine of Eternal Security.

> Bible students commit hermeneutical malpractice to assume the "daughters of men (Heb. "adam")" was restricted to the female descendants of Cain. Such interpretation comes from prejudice and bias which The LORD prohibits (cp. Lev. 19:15).

Hello Lily. If we say that the Holy Spirit is a person, some people might think that we believe in two gods. So that word (person) can often be unsuitable or confusing to some.

It's best to understand the Holy Spirit (& Jesus) as living parts or emanations from the One God. Just as Jesus, before His incarnation (i.e. coming to Earth in human form) was the Word of God ( John 1:1-14), so to the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God sent out to accomplish God's Will. Neither the Word of God (Jesus) nor the Holy Spirit are ever independent of God - all are equally One & eternally One - God wouldn't be Who He is without the Word & the Holy Spirit.

But when we read in the Bible of the Holy Spirit's Attributes & Work, we are actually seeing God manifesting Himself in the out-working of His Spirit. If you look up the following Scriptures, you can see God the Spirit manifested in a few ways:

a. He is intelligent ( 1 Corinthians 2:10,11)

b. He has feelings ( Ephesians 4:30)

c. He has a will ( 1 Corinthians 12:11)

d. He teaches ( John 14:26)

e. He guides ( John 16:13; Romans 8:14)

f. He commissions ( Acts 13:4)

g. He commands ( Acts 8:29)

h. He contends ( Genesis 6:3)

i. He intercedes ( Romans 8:26)

So, the Holy Spirit is not simply a force or a power of God, as some want to believe. He is God Himself because He goes about His Work as God desires (i.e. as if God was on Earth doing it). Nothing the Spirit does is contrary or independent of God, just as Jesus on Earth, perfectly fulfilled God's Will through His Words, His Life, His Work, & His Death (you can read Jesus' wonderful prayer to His Father in this respect). I hope that has been a little helpful. May the Spirit (the Living God) help you as you meditate on these things from the Word.

You're going to have to do some fancy googling; maybe read some Hebrew history. You can hang out or check tomorrow; CHRIS may already know that date.

Genesis 6:9

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Genesis 7:13

In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

Genesis 5:32

And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Genesis 7:9

There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

Isaiah 54:9

For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

Genesis 9:28

And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.

Genesis 7:6

And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.

Genesis 7:11

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Genesis 8:13

And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.

Genesis 10:1

Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

Rudy L Cole Yes animals have soul which is breath life, they breath in air in Genesis 2:7 the word breath is nishma which means breath Genesis 6:17 all flesh that wherein is the breath of life the word breath there is ruach which can be translated breath air wind or spirit, and going by context it is breathing air.

Discernment and prayer should be used before automatically assuming every verse in the Bible applies to us. There were many specific instructions to people in certain circumstances in certain times, in certain places. For example: if I read Jonah 3:2 it says go to Ninevah- does that me I myself must go to Ninevah right now? Or do you think this is historical for our benefit to see how God instructed Jonah to go there?

How about Genesis 6:14. If I read that, does that automatically I need to build an ark? Did God say that to me and only to me?

Now, let's go back to your Tobit verse- does that truly mean what you say it means? Did you pray and ask God about it and see any confirmation from Him?

What about other followers of God in the Bible who had mixed race spouses? I personally do not believe your interpretation applies as I do not see evidence for it. A current political movement is aimed at dividing people and making people feel entitled. It is deceptive and evil and I believe it's from satan and not God, based on the fruit and lies of this movement. I believe God over man. I will follow God over man and He said this: Galatians 3:28. God bless...

I'm not sure how all these verses prove how evil we all are? But salvation in Christ is spoken of in detail in 2 Corinthians 5 (whole chapter) and in other places in the New Testament. But let me deal with the first quote you gave which says:

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Genesis 6:5

Now Noah found an exception with God. So, it is noted that he was a just man and perfect in his generations ( Genesis 6:7-9). In fact, he was the only man worth saving.

I won't go into all the other verses you mentioned because some of them are the words of kings (not God) and some of them relate to man in general (not all men).

The brazen serpent was made so if men looked at it after being bitten he would not die. If men look to the cross and unto Jesus that man will not die. That is why Jesus likened himself to be like the brazen serpent.

Jesus was not made of sinful flesh. But the flesh is not that important. It is the remission of blood that atones for sin. Jesus as all of us, had His Fathers blood. A child is normally born with his father's blood. That is why they prove paternity with blood test.

Because Jesus had God's blood He was sinless and He shed his sinless blood to atone for our sins. This is the victory. It had little to do with his sinless flesh. Jesus had no sin. He kept himself through His whole life. He was therefore the perfect sacrifice.

Jesus couldn't stay dead because He was perfect and God gave Jesus power to lay down his life and take it up again.

We execute people for killing other people because God told us to in Genesis 9:6 "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man."

So, yes it is just to execute a man for killing another man.

I hope this helps you to understand.

Teresa johnson,

We see in Job the sons of God are angels ( Job 1"6) ( Job 2:1) and ( Job 38:7). There are demons on the earth that I hope you never have to contend with because these are vicious beings. How or why they are here is not in scripture, there are writings outside of the Bible but whether they are true is in question. But what does scripture tell us?

We see in Scripture angels appearing in the form of man, able to eat, drink, and have physical contact with humans. ( Genesis 18:2-8) ( Genesis 32:24-30). We are also told to be careful entertaining strangers because they could be an angel, ( Hebrews 13:2). The angels that left their first estate were treated differently, they were locked in chains of darkness (bottomless pit) until judgment, they are not roaming this earth.

Angels have no need to reproduce in their present estate like humans. If angels by choosing to leave their first estate can procreate, that is what we see in ( Genesis 6:1-4), and is probably the reason those angels were locked up in darkness because they corrupted God's creation of mankind, that God destroyed with the flood.

Angels and demons are roaming the earth. We see in Daniel 10 good angels and bad angels battle each other here on earth, same as we battle these beings, these may be part of the third that will be cast down with Satan. We see they rejoice in heaven when this happens and say woe unto those on earth.

We know by Job Satan has access to heaven because he went with the sons of God when they presented themselves to God, ( Job 1:6-12). Some take Revelation 12 as in the past, but if we look at what is said. Satan is the accuser and accuses us daily. If you read Revelation 12 you will see in vs. 8, Satan has no more place in heaven. In vs. 11 they overcome Satan by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives until death, this is in the future, not the past.

God bless,

RLW

Thank you Steph for sharing that. I do agree that one could look at that verse in the way you suggest, even citing proof of the ever-decreasing years that each one of us has to live. Also considering Psalm 90:10, "The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."

However, in Genesis 6:1-7, the compelling message here is of God's great displeasure in the ever increasing wickedness of man & that God had subsequently set a time limit when the righteous would escape & the unrepentant sinner would perish. "My Spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh", seems to indicate that God's Spirit would no longer contend with man in the flesh, but to deal with his spirit in that appointed day. That is, there needs to be a destruction of the flesh so that the spirit might be released for judgement. We can see an allusion to this in the NT: 1 Corinthians 5:5, "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus", as Paul had to deal with fornication in the Church, which the Church failed to do. Destruction of the flesh here certainly meant suffering, possibly death, & that the sinning soul would be excommunicated & face certain personal calamities or else he comes to his senses, repents, be restored into fellowship, that his spirit might yet be saved.

Even though the sinner in 1 Corinthians was given time to repent, though if he refused, his days would be shortened because of suffering & death (also 1 Corinthians 11:29,30). Likewise, God had allotted mankind 120 years of life, under the testimony & preaching of Noah ( 2 Peter 2:5) as God's Anger reached its limit with them, but Noah's testimony was rejected resulting in both the destruction of the flesh & their spirits held captive awaiting judgement.

This is very interesting as I have never looked at this verse the way you two are. I've always thought this was a max time limit (or expiration date, if you will) that God was permanently setting on a human's life there on after. In Genesis Chapter 5 we read about the genealogy of Adam. For generations we see that these people were living hundreds of years. Then we read Genesis 6:1-2. In Genesis 6:3 we see the word strive which means:

Definition of strive

intransitive verb

1: to devote serious effort or energy : ENDEAVOR

strive to finish a project

2: to struggle in opposition : CONTEND

So looking at Genesis 6:3 in that respect, it appears that God was setting a max number of days for all of man-kind from that day forward. People don't live beyond 120 years as we know it.

Biblical Contradictions in the form of a question:

Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did ( 2 Samuel 24: 1)

Satan did ( I Chronicles 2 1:1)

In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand ( 2 Samuel 24:9)

One million, one hundred thousand ( I Chronicles 21:5)

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand ( 2 Samuel 24:9)

Four hundred and seventy thousand ( I Chronicles 21:5)

God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven ( 2 Samuel 24:13)

Three ( I Chronicles 21:12)

How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two ( 2 Kings 8:26)

Forty-two ( 2 Chronicles 22:2)

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

Eighteen ( 2 Kings 24:8)

Eight ( 2 Chronicles 36:9)

How long did he rule over Jerusalem?

Three months ( 2 Kings 24:8)

Three months and ten days ( 2 Chronicles 36:9)

The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?

Eight hundred ( 2 Samuel 23:8)

Three hundred ( I Chronicles 11: 11)

When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?

After ( 2 Samuel 5 and 6)

Before ( I Chronicles 13 and 14)

How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?

Two ( Genesis 6:19, 20)

Seven ( Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark ( Genesis 7:8-9)

When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?

One thousand and seven hundred ( 2 Samuel 8:4)

Seven thousand ( I Chronicles 18:4)

How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?

Three thousand six hundred ( 2 Chronicles 2:2)

Three thousand three hundred ( I Kings 5:16)

The list is practically endless.

Rebecca Gods divine unmerited favour Ephesians 2:8-10. Another Example Genesis 6:6-8 noah and family. His Will His Judgement, His power our precious Gift.

Oseas, thanks for sharing your scripture and your interpretation of it. Yes, I read the scripture and believe it, but it does not say Eve had sex with satan. It is absolutely not there and not even close in my opinion.

It appears your primary source from which you hinge your theory is Jude 1:6-7. I encourage you to search 'What is the strange flesh in Jude 1:7?' on GotQuestions website. They did a thorough breakdown of this which I agree with.

I think the strange flesh in verse 7 is the unnatural homosexual behavior that took place within Sodom and Gomorrah, not relations with angels. Of course there was a visit from 2 angels there that the men wanted to have relations with, but they didn't know they were angels. Genesis 6:2-4. HEBREWS 13:2.

Secondly, the example of Jude 1:4-7 points out that God will punish those who disobey and deviate from God's plan for them.

Third, yes, the Bible has metaphors. Example: John 6:56. Eat flesh and drink blood. Have you literally given into cannibalism and eaten Jesus? And is that what it means? No, it's a metaphor. The bread symbolized it. Isaiah 64:8 - are you literally clay? Ezekiel 34:31 - are we a flock of sheep? Here's a simile: Matthew 10:16. 'as' sheep, 'as' serpents, 'as' wolves, which explains it's symbolic. So, when Jesus or God called humans satan were they actually satan or acting like satan? Jesus called Peter satan: Matthew 4:1. So, does that mean Peter was acting like satan or WAS satan? If he literally was satan why then did Jesus forgive him? Peter said he loved Jesus 3 times. Does satan love Jesus?

The other 2 verses you posted seem to serve confirmation bias for your theory, as they are general and are only used to reinforce the original misinterpretation.

God bless...

Genesis was revealed to Moses after 2.500 years after Adam or around 1.500 years BC,and around 3.000 years after the rebellion in Eden, beginning by the ruler of Eden, a Cherub.

Genesis 1:v.1- 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Comments: In JESUS, GOD the Father created the heavens(FOUR HEAVENS) and the earth. (earth here has nothing to do with the Planet Earth, there is a great MYSTERY hidden by the Spirit of GOD, the common man will never understand it.)

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Comments: Actually, if the Bible was speaking of the Planet Earth, it would never be written without form, of course, but

the earth that GOD revealed to Moses IT REALLY had not any FORM, it was void, yeah, was void of the Spirit of GOD, the Word, the Word is GOD; SO, darkness was upon the face of the deep(infested of a multitude of rebels), but the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. GOD always was present here( Isaiah 40:v.21-23.Check it out)

3 And God said, Let there be light:and there was light.4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Comments: What was the intention of GOD in this moment?In His Omniscience and Omnipotence He would go to establish two Alliances with the inhabitants of the Earth through His light.(Please, read 1Thes.5:v.4to8)

5 And God called the light Day,and the darkness he called Night.And the EVENING and the MORNING were the first Day.

NOTE:

After the rebellion in Eden( Jude 1:v.6),GOD planned to restore all things in six days, and in His WISDOM started to work in His plan around 500 years after the rebellion in Eden( Genesis 6:1to5; Jude 1:v.6),it was already EVENING.

Genesis 5 describes a generation of GOD's seed according His plan.Did not he make one?Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one?That he might seek a godly seed. Mal.2:15

I had studied this way back there but have remembered why I was awestruck over the Ark of the Covenant.

You see, when The Holy Spirit imparts a Rhema word to us, it doesn't all fall into place at once. You have to dig deep.

It's possible people will cry 'hoax or heretic" because of education, scientific studies, archaeology dogs. It means lots of money, paychecks, funding for building projects, hiring employees for all of it. The money wheel keeps turning.

God watches over His Word, is the bottom line.

Genesis 6:16, 9:9. Noah built an Ark. God made a covenant with Noah& the 7 other survivors of the flood; the creatures on the Ark.

Moses mother even made an ark to preserve Moses to fulfill his destiny and legacy.

Exodus 19:5 will blow off your flip flops!

Just read through Exodus and pinpoint verses on the Ark and Covenants. Put those words in the Search Box on this website. Num.3:31;

Deu.4:23, 4:31 & 5:3

Jesus Christ is the 3rd Ark. All born again people will be taken to heaven.

I think we're in a time when we must prefer what scripture says, over what people say from their flesh. Every thing a prophet says must come true to the letter. If it's from God, he will confirm it 100%. There are no apostles on earth now. If you want to study prophesy, there are many charts on google of how Jesus fulfilled every prophesy spoken, concerning Him. And ther are still some to be fulfilled yet.

Also prophesies concerning Israel. We must pray as Jesus asked us to: pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Pray for the scales to fall from their eyes and ears. Let's be people Jesus can count on. Let's do more Matthew 25:31-46. Do these things with your children.

May the Lord bless and keep us close to his heart.

Hello, this is a common question, but I think includes a false assumption.

It sounds like the question is if God is all knowing He should already know all outcomes and what's the point of everything, like life and our 'choices'?

I think what is wrong with this question is we assume God is a certain way and if it doesn't comform to our narrow understanding then we think something must be wrong.

Here's another way to look at the question: If God is all powerful, doesn't He have the power to let us have choices? If God is all powerful, can't He choose to let things unfold on our timeline and to not need to see into the future for all outcomes?

The Bible gives examples of God changing His mind. It's in the Bible, so either we believe the Bible or not, right?

Exodus 32:14

Jonah 3:10

Genesis 6:6

I've also heard people say things like: if God is all powerful, can't He choose to limit Himself? And if He can, then He's not all powerful, and if he can't, then He's not all powerful. I seriously heard an atheist say this claiming it 'disproves' God, but it's just another human logical fallacy. God is God and He is not confined or limited by our silly little logical shortcomings. We are the ones limited in understanding. 1 Corinthians 1:25

Oh no, I did not say what you thought that I said. Note that I focused the generations of MANKIND, I meant from Adam until our days, I did not refer on creation of planet Earth.

Adam and his human nature did appear after the fall of the ruler of Eden and the multitude of angels which followed him- Genesis 6:v.1-12 and Jude 1:v.6-7. So God decided to destroy the man He had created from the face of the earth through a flood of waters upon the earth, and to destroy all flesh, where the breath of life was, from under heaven; and everything that was on earth should perish in the flood waters.

By the way, in the year 1.556 after Adam, Noah was five hundred years old, and GOD said for him to build the Ark. In the year 1.656 after Adam, even in the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, in this same day a flood of waters began to fall upon the earth.

For your better understand, and also for all readers, according biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:

Adam lived .................................... 130 yrs and begat Seth

Seth lived 105 yrsand begatEnosh;

Enosh lived ........................................90yrsand begatKenan;

Kenanlived.........................................70yrsand begatMahalalel;

Mahalalellived ....................................65yrsand begatJared;

Jaredlived ........................................162yrs and begatEnoch;

Enochlived .........................................65yrsand begatMethuselah

Methuselahlived.................................187yrsand begatLamech;

Lamechlived.....................................182yrsand begatNoah;

FromNoahs birthuntilthe Flood.........600 yrs.

Total of years fromAdam tothe Flood=1,656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God.Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not human theories or human speculations or conjectures.

Thanks for the views on this issue.

Neville Stewart

There are two primary views on the identity of the sons of God and daughters of men. They were godly descendants of Seth intermarrying with wicked descendants of Cain. The major support for this interpretation is Genesis chapter 4 describes the ungodly generations of Cain, and 5 is the godly Seth line and the righteous line of Seth.

Cain and Seth are both descendants of Adam and Eve so if the descendants of Cain's daughters were fair, so the daughters of Seth would also be fair so, godly vs ungodly would have to be the difference. Nowhere in scripture are the descendants of Seth called "the sons of God", but more as an adoption, "shall be my son" as Solomon and us today, who receive Jesus and are led by the Spirit of God are the sons/ daughters of God. ( 1 Chronicles 17:13) ( 2 Corinthians 6:18)

The other view is angels who left their first estate and mated with women. Angels are called sons of God in Job, ( Job 1:6) ( Job 2:1) ( Job 38:7). Some say angels can not mate because of what Jesus said in ( Matthew 22:29-30). But all through scripture angels take on human form, they eat and drink and if they left their first estate it is possible. Scripture does not give a lot about this; we have 1656 years from Adam to the flood in only 7 chapters of Genesis.

Scripture tells us there are devils, demons, and fallen angels but these angels are different they are locked in chains of darkness in the bottomless pit until judgment. ( 2 Peter 2:4) ( Jude 1: 6). The bottomless pit comes up in Revelation, another study.

Also mentioned are giants/ Nephilim/ Rephaim "in those days; and also after that", before and after the flood. Whether these were offspring of angels' scripture does not tell us. The description in scripture is clear these are not just tall people. ( 2 Samuel 21:16) ( Joshua 12:4) ( Numbers 13:33) ( Deuteronomy 20:17) ( Deuteronomy 2:19-21) ( Amos 2:9).

This is just a small amount of information, maybe it will get you started in your study.

RLW

What is meant by "the sons of God saw the daughters of men"?

2 Peter 2:5, declares Noah to be a "preacher of righteousness". However, we're not told how he communicated God's Message to the people, whether during the building of the Ark ( Hebrews 11:7) or at other times. His soul would have been vexed by the wickedness around him, as Lot's was with the Sodomites ( 2 Peter 2:7,8).

Genesis 5:32 shows Noah's age as 500 years old & then when he was 600 years old ( Genesis 7:6), the flood waters came upon the Earth. And somewhere between that time ( Genesis 6:3) God declared that man's days "shall be a hundred & twenty years". I guess that's how the understanding arose about God's time limit for man to take stock of his remaining days.

Genesis 6:4

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

mystery to me.

my theory is they were human and they had never sinned and they didn't live in the garden and they were created when adam was created. But eve was the only one created from adam's rib. we all come from adam and Eve.

Bill, if you're referring to Genesis 6:3, the 120 years written here isn't given to show a generation (of years) of mankind, but how many years God had given mankind in Noah's day to heed the warning & repent. Within 120 years the flood had arrived & sadly only eight souls were saved.

Vonetta,

may Christ strengthen you in your weakness and give you wisdom and understanding of the word of God. If Jesus said we had to forgive our brothers and sisters in the Lord seven times a day than how much more will our heavenly Father forgive us. Being said that Jesus will forgive the same sin but he will expect you to learn from your mistakes. If you refuse to learn from your mistakes than yes he will refuse to forgive you of that sin until you learn better. Jesus said my spirit will not always strive with man. ( Genesis 6:3) There is a point where God will stop listening to a forgiveness of the same sin over and over again. So, pray for God to strengthen your weakness in that area. God be with you stay prayed up so you can go up

God bless

Cowboy

Alec, I believe that Genesis 6:3 applies to the time limit God had set before the Earth would be destroyed by the Great Flood. This is not to say that it took Noah 120 years to have the Ark built as we would have to take into account the birth of his sons, their marriages & the gathering of the animals & their food to be loaded into the Ark. Some who have patiently counted out the passage of time, have concluded that it took Noah approximately 55 to 75 years to build the Ark & the remaining time taken to those other matters I've given above.

However, God has not indicated to us in the Bible the number of our remaining days before He will consume this old Earth, not by flood, but by fire ( 2 Peter 3:7,10). Unlike those in Noah's day who had 120 years to repent but chose to scoff at God's Word, God through His Living Word, Jesus Christ, has given mankind many, many more years to repent before the Age of Grace ends with the burning up of all things stained with corruption. Let us rejoice that the Lord has enlivened our hearts to receive that life saving Word granting us entrance to eternal life.