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  • Doug - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hebrews 2:7 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Psalms 73 - 3 years ago
    Bert,

    Several people have been named as possible authors:



    Paul is the most common one.



    Some Bibles say that this is the book of Hebrews written by Paul. The title "To the Hebrews" was not put on it until the 2nd century.



    But there was no inscription about Paul until about the third century when the Council of Carthage added it to the book and claimed that Paul had written the letter. So there was no claim on the letter itself that it was written by Paul until the 3rd century.



    There are some difficulties with the theory of Paul. And by the way, many scholars now do not hold that view because of all the difficulties.



    For example, the letter was written by a second generation Christian because of what he stated in Hebrews 2:3. And here's what it says. Hebrews 2:3 says, how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard Him.



    So whoever wrote Hebrews did not hear the Lord directly, nor did he receive from the Lord directly, but received and was confirmed and established for us, he being one of them, by those that heard Him.



    So this is just one of the problems of putting Paul as the author.



    Paul himself, as stated in Galatians 1:11-12 said, but I certify to you brethren that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man, for I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.



    So Paul is not a second generation Christian. And whoever wrote Hebrews is a second generation Christian.



    One of the other theories was that it was Barnabas, because the letter appears to have been written by a Levite and according to Acts 4:36, Barnabas was a Levite.



    Barnabas means "Son of Encouragement." The writer states in Hebrews 13:22 that he encourages them to endure the word of encouragement.



    Some say Luke wrote it. Right now, Apollos is the most popular theory. Bottom line is we don't know!
  • OLD MAN WILSON - 3 years ago
    Brother Richard:

    You are not going to understand Revelation without understanding Daniel and Ezekiel.

    Daniel's prophecy is FOUR kingdoms on the earth, Babylon, Medes and Persians, Grecia and the FORTH and last kingdom: the KINGDOM OF GOD.

    Daniel 7:23 And the FORTH BEAST ......the KINGDOM of GOD ....

    The BEAST in Revelation has to agree with Daniel's prophecy.

    John the Baptist came preaching the KINGDOM OF GOD.

    The FORTH and LAST kingdom (OF GOD) arrived on the day of Pentecost.

    Hebrews 2:8 .... but now we see NOT YET ALL THINGS put under him.

    In THIS AGE: God's in; ONLY, calling out the PRIEST to serve with him in the KINGDOM OF GOD. Study the Law and Prophecies. Moses and the children were a SHADOW of the TRUE KINGDOM.

    Ephesian 2:7 That in the AGES TO COME .....

    Eternity is a long time: it is broken down into ages for the PURPOSE and FULFILMENT of his good pleasure.

    God Bless You.
  • David - In Reply - 3 years ago
    One Eighty There's something I always keep in mind which I'll share in Lev. 17:11 the life of the flesh is in the blood

    now in human genetics the bloodline is on the male side, when it comes to our saviour HIS BLOOD was pure which is why

    Judas said I have betrayed innocent blood. In Hebrews 2:14 it says Jesus Christ took part of the same he had sinless blood

    the flesh was corrupt. He never thought to do evil but understood how to with His Fathers help shut the enemy down until

    it was time to fulfill and he couldn't be touched until then. He knew how His father functioned via the scriptures because

    the only way to know God is by IT IS WRITTEN. What a day when we practice open mind to Gods word and all we do to

    His glory not ours which requires caring and walking by the spirit. He was a complete and perfect man of body soul and

    spirit or as the scripture say the second adam from heaven. I with you do not believe he litterally was God.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Thank you bro Richard for sharing that full & beautiful account of our Lord's Life & Ministry while on Earth. Even in his short time on Earth, He truly met many folk & touched many lives with His Life & Words.

    As you've shared a great overview of this, one also notices that practically every aspect of life that we might face, has been the experience of Jesus & that He has given each person who has so suffered or being challenged, His full Attention & Help in their matters.

    His holiness of Life & richness of His Words gives us today great comfort & joy, knowing that not only we can fully rely on His Guidance & Help, but that His human experiences with the people of His Day, with their sicknesses & sufferings, also reveal His Understanding & Compassion to us now who maybe so overcome.

    As we read in Hebrews 2:18, "For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted"; this must speak volumes to us of the LORD God coming into humanity, experiencing our struggles, so that we might be truly helped, not by "an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities", but by "a merciful & faithful high priest". No high priest of old could ever fill the shoes of our Great High Priest, eternal in the heavens, ever interceding for us.

    And for you dear brother, that the Wisdom & Grace of our Lord be with you in your matters with your family & ministry aspirations. We remain in prayer that the way before you will be made abundantly clear.
  • David - In Reply on Ezekiel 8 - 3 years ago
    Wendy The term son of man means that which we originated from genetically we are of adam, Jesus Christ is son of adam

    by flesh and sinless blood because GOD created the sperm in Mary physically and the life of the flesh is in the bloodline passed

    from the God side. Hebrews 2:14 He meaning Jesus Christ took part the flesh His blood was sinless thats why he is the payment

    for our sins.
  • Doug - In Reply on Hebrews 2 - 3 years ago
    It is referred to as being lower than the angels because they suffered death. Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
  • Postmyers567 - In Reply on Hebrews 2 - 3 years ago
    If we take the words as referring to Jesus Christ, then they must be understood as pointing out the time of his humiliation, as in Heb 2:9; and the little lower, in both verses, must mean for a short time, or a little while, as is very properly inserted among our marginal readings. Adam was originally made higher than the angels, but by sin he is now brought low, and subjected to death; for the angelic nature is not mortal. Thus, taking the words in their common acceptation, man in his present state may be said to be lessened below the angels. Jesus Christ, as the eternal Logos, or God with God, could not die, therefore a body was prepared for him; and thus , for a short while, he was made lower than the angels, that he might be capable of suffering death. And indeed the whole of the passage suits him better than it does any of the children of men, or than even Adam himself in a state of innocence; for it is only under the feet of Jesus that all things are put in subjection, and it was in consequence of his humiliation that he had a name above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth, Php 2:9-11. Therefore he must be infinitely higher than the angels, for they, as well as all the things in heaven, bow in subjection to him.

    Thou crownedst him with glory and honor - This was strictly true of Adam in his state of innocence, for he was set over all things in this lower world; all sheep and oxen, the beasts of the field, the fowl of the air, the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth over the paths of the seas, Ps 8:7, Ps 8:8. So far all this perfectly applies to Adam; but it is evident the apostle takes all in a much higher sense, that of universal dominion; and hence he says, he left nothing that is not put under him. These verses, collated with the above passage from the Epistle to the Philippians, mutually illustrate each other. And the crowning Christ with
  • Robert Scott Catuska on Hebrews 2 - 3 years ago
    Hebrews 2:6-7 In 6 it talks of man and Christ in 7 it says thou make him lower than the angles. I thought that man and Christ were above the angels am I understanding this wrong? No offense to the Angles.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    There are several reasons someone asks this question. I'd like to address the core of your question. If you're having situations in your life that seem impossible, please remember GOD can do impossible! He "said" & the entire Galaxy came into existence, Genesis 1, the Bible is full of GOD's miraculous compassion, 2Kings 7, notice there was a horrible time with horrible actions, 4 leperous men, (usually cast out away from other's because of it) they were in a seemingly hopeless situation. Yet GOD had already made provision for all the City.

    GOD cares for us even more than He does the sparrow. 1Peter 4:12-14, 1Peter 1:7-13, hope to the end. 1Peter 2:19-25,

    Psalms 139, Matthew 10:22, endure to the end. Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill."

    With that said, instead seek The Savior,John3:15-16, Jesus Christ understands Luke 22:40-48, Matthew 26:36-39, Hebrews 4:15

    John 17, Jesus overcame so we can endure through by His example, Revelation 3:21, Romans 12:21 to live is good. 1John 4:4, John 16:33, Hebrews 2:17,18,

    We all have to live our own lives & will give account. Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:12,

    I hope, if you've suffered such a tragic, sad loss, that GOD gives you comfort.

    I pray in either situation. GOD gives you direction, hope, encouragement, faith & comfort. Stay in HIS Word.

    Hopefully this is helpful. Please let us know if you need prayer.
  • Ronnette Part 5 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Isaiah 30:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach.

    2 Samuel 19:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And the people gat them by stealth that day into the city, as people being ashamed steal away when they flee in battle.

    Hebrews 2:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

    Isaiah 33:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    The earth mourneth and languisheth: Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down: Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits.

    1 John 2:28 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

    Micah 3:7 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.

    Ezekiel 36:32 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

    Hebrews 11:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

    Genesis 2:25 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

    Job 6:20 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    They were confounded because they had hoped; they came thither, and were ashamed.

    Isaiah 20:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And they shall be afraid and ashamed of Ethiopia their expectation, and of Egypt their glory.
  • ELB - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Jesse:

    Revelation 13:5 And there was give him (man) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him for forty two months.

    One thousand two hundred ninety days. Forty two months. Three and a half years. Christ ministry on earth.

    Daniel 12:11 And from the time daily sacrifice shall be taken away (old covenant) and the abomination THAT MAKETH DESOLATE SET UP, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days.

    Revelation 11:15 The seventh angel sounded (Christ's resurrection), ....saying, the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ: and he shall reign for the age of the age.

    John 19:30 .....It is finished ......

    Hebrews 2:8 ....we see NOT YET all things put under him.

    You commented the other day that just because we don't believe, doesn't make it not so.

    Christ said he speaks as if all things are done.

    We should look at his words as if all things are done.

    Hebrews 4:3 For we which believed (his words) do enter into rest ......the works were finished before the foundation of the world.

    Philippians 2:11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    Romans 14:11 For it is written, AS I live saith the Lord, Every knee shall bow, and every tongues shall confess

    to God.

    It's this lake of fire (for our God is a consuming fire) that CAUSES Confession to salvation.

    I'm out of characters, give your rebuttal and I will respond.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Names of Jesus A_C - 4 years ago
    Advocate - 1 John 2:1

    Alive for Evermore - Rev 1:18

    All Knowing Psalm 139:1-6

    All, and in All - Colossians 3:11

    Almighty - Revelation 1:8

    Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8

    Altar - Hebrews 13:10

    Altogether Lovely - Song of Solomon 5:16

    Amen - Revelation 3:14

    Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:13 & Daniel 7:22

    Anointed One - 1 Samuel 2:35

    Author of Eternal Salvation - Hebrews 5:9

    Author of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2

    Balm of Gilead - Jeremiah 8:22

    Banner over us - Ps 60:4, S of Sol 2:4

    Bearer of Sin - Hebrews 9:28

    Before All Things - Colossians 1:17

    Beginning and Ending - Revelation 1:8

    Bishop of our Souls - 1 Peter 2:25

    Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15

    Blessed Hope - Titus 2:13

    Bread of Life, my manna - John 6:35

    Bridegroom - John 3:29

    Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16

    Brightness of His Glory - Hebrews 1:3

    Buckler - Psalms 18:30

    Captain - Joshua 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:10

    Changeless One - Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8

    Chief Among 10,000, S. of Solomon 5:10

    Chosen of God - 1 Peter 2:4

    Christ - Matthew 1:16 - 1 John 5:1

    Comforter - John 14:16-18

    Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25

    Counselor - Isaiah 9:6

    Creator - Romans 1:25 - Isaiah 40:28

    Crown of Glory - Isaiah 28:5
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Exodus 20 - 4 years ago
    Yeah; I'm stumped on that one verse as well; can't seem to find commentary on it. I can think of when the angels enforced judgment more frequently as a role. I suppose conceivably they could have somehow explained it while God Himself; say carved it into the stone. Hope to find a response to this. Hebrews 2:2 seems also to show angels involved here. See also Job 33:22-26 in regard to an angel proclaiming the ransom (i.e. Christ); and a man arestored to God. Also we have Acts 7:53 which seems to state the same thing. I guess these cross references are enough to show a pattern; the important thing is to remember angels of God can only do His bidding. This is one role I wasn't familiar with until now.

    Great question. Agape.. Rich P.
  • Need a Friend to explain the Hebrew language of This Passage - 4 years ago
    I was hoping to find Chris. I need someone to explain in HEBREW; this subject in Hebrews, this verse on Melchizedek. I need some clarity.

    Context Summary

    Hebrews 5:1-10 explains how Jesus fits the requirements of a high priest. Earlier verses showed that the Messiah promised by the Old Testament would be entirely human ( Hebrews 2:17). That humanity allows Christ to sympathize with our temptations and weaknesses. Here, the writer of Hebrews points out that this also makes Jesus qualified to be our ultimate High Priest. Because of His humanity, His prayers, His sacrifice for sin, and His appointment by God, Jesus' status is far superior to any other figure.

    Chapter Summary

    Hebrews chapter 5 completes the previous commentary about Jesus' humanity. His human existence qualifies Him to understand other men and to offer sacrifice to God on our behalf. Jesus also fulfills the roles of both high priest and king, which the author demonstrates by returning to the Old Testament. The figure of Melchizedek is used to illustrate this point: that Christ, unlike any before, was able to be both the kingly Son of David and the High Priest for all people. The deeper meaning of this example, however, may well be lost on the letter's audience, since they are languishing in spiritual immaturity.

    Mishael: I'm posting this from BibleRef DOT com

    I haven't been able to reconcile this with a teaching I heard long ago. Particularly, that when Jesus came out of the Tomb_and Mary tried to touch Jesus, he told her not to. Reason, He was ascending to Heaven to be made High Priest. Her touching Him would have defiled Him.

    I always meant to read this passage in the Hebrew language. If someone here can do that, I would love to Not feel conflicted. Melchizedek received the first tithes.
  • Grow up from the Milk to the Meat of Gods Word - In Reply - 4 years ago
    When a child is very young, they can only consume milk. Foods with more substance are beyond them; they can only process something specifically meant for infants. In the same way, those who are spiritually immature can only deal in simpler spiritual matters. This is not bad, when a person is a new convert. However, if a person remains in this state of spiritual infancy, when they should have grown enough to handle more solid spiritual "food," then they have only themselves to blame ( Ephesians 4:11-15). According to the writer of Hebrews, his target audience is going to miss some of the deeper meanings he will describe ( Hebrews 5:11), since they are "dull of hearing." In this context, that "dullness" means laziness and apathy.

    Just as a child has to be trained to grow beyond milk to eating solid food, so too must a Christian's spiritual maturity grow through effort and experience. The prior verse used the term apeiros to describe these spiritual babies, meaning they are inexperienced or unskilled. Spiritual maturity has nothing to do with age, since it's possible to remain an immature Christian for a long, long time. Rather, maturity involves developing the ability to put our faith to practical USE.

    In the context of the book of Hebrews, this has everything to do with making a purposeful effort. It requires that a person "pay much closer attention" to the faith ( Hebrews 2:1). It means Christians are to follow God's will without fear and without disobedience ( Hebrews 4:11). Maturity requires that a person learn to use our greatest spiritual tool, the Word of God ( Hebrews 4:12), in order to aid our discernment. The end result, according to this verse, is a person who can distinguish between good and evil. This is about more than just moral dilemmas-it's also a reference to knowing the difference between truthful, godly teaching and worldly, false faith.

    It is also producing the fruits of the Holy Spirit.

    Galatians 5.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    I've had several close to death experiences. The 1st I recall clearly was about 5 or 6 yrs old. I was being held by gentle being, clothed in white & no pain, back to unbearable pain & suffering. I heard myself speak as an adult outside of the situation. That may have been the closest I've ever been to Heaven itself, the place. 2nd time I was electrically shocked while in water, I saw a black hand cover the sky, enormous, I could only see light through the bend of two fingers & only a portion, it was so huge. 3rd & 4th time I was young adult, it was all black around, I could feel darkness & closeness to judgement. I begged for another chance. 5th time I could hear & see the EMTs I had a different view. I was at peace not struggling, no pain. Then as they put the heart zapper thing on 3rd time I think it was. I felt difficult pain again, coldness, struggle. Luke 23:43, Luke 16:15-31, Luke 20:35-38, Psalms 91:11, Matthew 4:11, Matthew 13:39,41,49, Luke 4:10, 2Thessalonians 1:6-12, 1Timothy 3:16, Hebrews 1, Psalms 97:2, * Hebrews 2:14,15, Genesis 5:24, 2Kings 2, Matthew 17:1-5, if GOD has allowed Ezekiel, John & others in the Scriptures to see Heaven then I cannot argue they did or not. * Acts 7:55, Jeremiah 52, Revelation 7, Isaiah 6:1, Ezekiel 1, Ezekiel 10,

    Matthew 24:3-51, Matthew 25:31-46, we will all give account so may our Words be faithful.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    James 1:5, 1John 2:27,

    Mark 5:25-34,

    Just recently GOD revealed somethings even deeper about that moment. I'm glad you're discussing so I can share it. In Leviticus 12, Leviticus 15:19-33, Leviticus 21:3, I think it's amazing Jesus called her "daughter" making her faith the (close kinship) also: Luke 8:43-48, Matthew 9:20-22, Galatians 3:26,

    Also understanding that her touching him could have had the uncleanness, if He were not the High Priest that makes atonement. Hebrews 2:17, Hebrews 4:14,15,

    Hebrews 5:5-10, Hebrews 6:20, Hebrews 7:11, even though; Luke 1, shows His family was of that bloodline, Luke 1:5-37,

    Also notable Jesus garment was without seams as the Priestly garment: John 19:23,24, Exodus 28:32, Exodus 29:23, 1Samuel 2:18,19,
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 4 years ago
    It should have for believers, but with all things involving people change was difficult and many Jews had difficulty leaving it behind. Social pressures, rejection by families and being put out of the synagogues brought challenges and the temptation to go along to get along. That is why the book of Hebrews was written. The author was trying to prevent Jewish believers from turning back to the sacrificial system and showing them Jesus was superior in every way to that system.

    Here is my attempt to summarize Hebrews:

    Jesus superior to the prophets: Hebrews 1:1-3

    Jesus superior to angels: Hebrews 1:4-14, Hebrews 2:1-8

    Jesus able to represent humanity: Hebrews 2:9-18

    Jesus superior to Moses: Hebrews 3:1-6

    Warnings about hardening our hearts to God's calling: 3:7-19

    Warnings about missing God's rest provided by faith in Jesus: 4:1-13

    Jesus provides bold access as our high priest: 4:14-16, Jesus meets high priest requirements: Hebrews 5:1-10

    Warning about being dull of hearing and unprepared for a deeper teaching: Hebrews 5:11-14, 6:1-8

    Encouragement to believe that they are ready for deeper teaching: Hebrews 6:9-12

    Teaching about the importance of God giving His oath to Christ He would be a priest forever: Hebrews 6:13-20

    Teaching the superiority of the order of Melchisedek that Christ belongs to over the Levitical priesthood order: Hebrews 7:1-28

    Christ's priesthood serves the heavenly reality that the law only was an earthly copy of: Hebrews 8:1-5

    The superiority of the New Covenant over the Old: Hebrews 8:6-13,

    The superiority of Christ's complete sevice over the incomplete Levitical service: Hebrews 9:1-28

    The superiority of Christ's sacrifice: Hebrews 10:1-22

    Warnings about drawing back: Hebrews 10:23-39

    Importance of and examples of faith: Hebrews 11:1-40

    Exhortation to submit to chastisement: Hebrews 12:1-29

    Exhortation to practically live out their Christian faith and benediction: Hebrews 13:1-25

    Jesus superior to
  • Jesse - In Reply on Hebrews 1 - 4 years ago
    Ronnette,

    The author of Hebrews is unknown. We do know from Hebrews 13:23 that whoever wrote the letter knew Timothy. Some believe that Paul wrote Hebrews, but in all of Paul's other epistles, he begins by introducing himself as the author. One of the problems I have in believing Paul wrote it is because of what it says in Hebrews 2:3 which says "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by (them) that heard Him."

    This tells me that whoever wrote Hebrews was a second generation Christian. So whoever wrote Hebrews did not hear the Lord directly (As Paul did), nor did he receive from the Lord directly, but received and was confirmed and established for us, he being one of them, by those that heard Him.

    One of the other theories was that it was Barnabas, because the letter appears to have been written by a Levite from the tribe of Levi. They were those who worked the temple. They were the priests, and they are the ones who took care of the temple.

    The letter appears to have been written by a Levite because of the familiarity with the temple functions and rituals. According to Acts 4:36, Barnabas was a Levite. So some people theorize that Barnabas wrote it.

    Barnabas means "Son of Encouragement." That's what his name means. And in Hebrews, the writer states in Hebrews 13:22 that he encourages them to endure the word of encouragement.

    I have also heard Luke and Apollos being mentioned as possible writer. But the bottom line is we do not know who wrote Hebrews.

    As for Hebrews 8:11 applying to Gentiles, here is my understanding of that verse. When Christ comes and sets up His kingdom, and brings the fulfillment of the last parts of the New Covenant, everybody will know the Lord.

    We won't have a need for pastors. There won't be a need to teach others about the Lord. Everybody's going to know, when He comes and sets up His kingdom!
  • Chris - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    That's true Bob. In His Humanity, Jesus was 'separate' from His Father: the Word of God made flesh ( John 1:14). In the flesh, Jesus faced all the temptations, pain & heartaches that we feel, even as you shared, He felt loneliness by the Father's aloofness at that important time - that is why it's written concerning His Humanity, "For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted" ( Hebrews 2:18). Jesus was perfect Man, doing His Father's Will & then to return to Heaven from whence He came. Even as He prayed, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." This little verse alone tells us a lot about Who this Jesus is before He came to give Himself for us.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Psalms 139, Isaiah 41:10,

    Psalms 130:4, Colossians 1:14, Ephesians 1:7, Acts 26:18, Luke 7:47,48, Psalms 32:1, Acts 8:22, Psalms 85:2,

    Ephesians 4:26,

    Proverbs 11:3,

    Psalms 119:16, Hebrews 2:18, James 1:12, 1Corinthians 10:13,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hey RichFairhurst,

    I agreed with what you posted on the flesh Jesus was born in, the same as the first Adam, without the stain of sin which comes the penalty of death. Jesus started just like the first Adam and as the first Adam being pure without sin and death had no hold on him, he could obey or disobey. He chose to disobey; the last Adam chose to obey.

    When God made the covenant with Israel, it was a covenant of works, obeying the commandments of God that Adam failed to do. Because of Adam's sin, we are born corrupt and cannot please God apart from grace. For this covenant to be fulfilled a man had to live his entire life without sin, a perfect life. Jesus was not only tempted by Satan He was tempted as you and I, His entire life, Hebrews 2:14-18

    If Jesus was incapable of sinning, the fulfillment of the law and the covenant would be a farce.

    The other part of your reply involves Luke 16, and the thief next to Jesus, I am sorry I do not agree, my understanding is different.

    What you said, "at the last minute to shut the mouth of unbelievers" He did. If we look at John 8:24-28, we see in Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. Their mouths were shut.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Dr. Lyle Lee - In Reply on Ezekiel 31 - 4 years ago
    Hi Gigi; I appreciate your response, however; I have understood the retoracle question in Hebrews 1:5 To which of the angels said God at any time, you are my son? This is actually saying God has never called angels sons of God, nor can they become sons of God, as I have previously stated only human beings can become sons of God, it is very clear in Luke 3:38 that Adam was the son of God. Adam was a human being, the genealogy from Adam unto the Lord Jesus, is a lineage of the sons of God, all those listed were sons of God. Now what we do know, is that the apostle Paul stated if a Christian is led by the Holy Ghost, he has matured to become a son of God. I understood your statement about things God has not revealed to us as of yet, this is very true, and we can be content in knowing only what God has revealed, for this reason I can say like Isaiah 28:9-10 a doctrine can only be created when you take line upon line, here a little, precept upon precept, and there a little, usingf this method we can assure ourselves we have arrived at good doctrine. Meaning look for all scriptures that teach sons of God, and see if at any time they refer unto angels, and you will discover what I also discovered, that no scripture refers unto angels as sons of God, only human beings are called sons of God. In conclusion, even Jesus took not upon himself the nature of angels to be called a son of God, but he took upon himself a human body, as the seed of Abraham. Hebrews 2:16
  • T Levis - In Reply on Deuteronomy 10 - 4 years ago
    Deuteronomy 9:3, Psalms 106:23, Genesis 19:13,

    Matthew 5:17, Hebrews 2:14, Revelation 20:14,

    Hopefully these are helpful.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Kinsman redeemer by the humanity of Jesus Christ.

    We see the kinsman redeemer in Leviticus 25:25. and we see it carried out in the book of Ruth chapters 1-4.

    we see in Revelation 5:1-5. we see a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. and no one was able to open the book but the Lord Jesus. If you notice verse 3 it had to be a "MAN"/Human. And he had to be able. Perfect/Sinless. and he has to be willing. This could only happen by the deity of Christ in his Human form.

    (His deity, He cannot sin.) (His humanity, He can take on our sin.) His humanity makes him our kinsman redeemer.

    References:

    Galatians 4:4-5.

    Hebrews 2:9-11.

    Luke 4:18:19. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord. "Restitution of all things"

    Acts 3:21. (I believe this is yet to come)

    I believe the jubilee foreshadowed this.

    study Leviticus 25:8-25.

    What are we presently redeemed from? Galatians 3:13. The law condemned us and faith in Christ justified us.

    Galatians 3:5-13.

    However, our bodies have not been redeemed yet, If so there will be no more death.

    Also, Romans 8:19-23.

    GOD BLESS.
  • Rod - In Reply on Psalms 110 - 4 years ago
    Dr. Lee, According to scripture Jesus came to fulfill, not destroy, and I believe scripture to be correct.

    Matthew 5:17-48 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

    according to scripture, through His death and resurrection, the only thing he destroyed is the devil,

    Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Indeed Jim. Jesus was known as both the Son of God & the Son of Man - He definitely was a Man in every respect, bar the sin nature.

    You wrote: "Jesus was exalted by God. If he was exalted it must mean he was lower in position." And again, yes, He was found in that lower position as a man, which Hebrews 2:9 speaks of: "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man." And in His Coming, "HE TOOK NOT ON HIM the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham." (v16). Why should it be said of Him that He should take on man's flesh (seed of Abraham), when the possibility was there that He take on the nature "like unto the angels"? Apart from the obvious fact that He needed to become a Man for being the sacrifice for our sins, the other matter that is evident in that verse, is that He had the Power to assume any substance or material He wished. So Who then is this Man Jesus? Is He not the One Who also said, "Before Abraham was (or, existed), I am" ( John 8:58)? And He also said, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I HAD WITH THEE before the world was." ( John 17:5).

    The question therefore remains: where was Jesus before He became a Man & before He "MADE HIMSELF of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." ( Philippians 2:8,9)? If He only began life as a Man of God/God's Appointed, how do we answer these other Scriptures that speak of another Life before His Birth? And His clear claims to a pre-existence in Heaven? Can we force another meaning to any of them?
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hey GiGi,

    I did not want to join in on this subject, I have discussed it before, and this is just to suggest something you may look into. You said Jesus' nature as God He could not sin. To fulfill the covenant flesh had to live a perfect life without sin to fulfill and break the curse of sin. If Jesus was incapable of sin, He could not make reconciliation for the sins.

    Hebrews 2:16-18 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

    He faced and was tempted just like us, Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

    He lived His life with the same temptations as we do and He overcame and did not sin, He could have but He did not give in. We have a high priest that knows what we are tempted with should motivate us and strength our faith our Savior Jesus did it and He can give us support to endure our walk. He knows what it is like!!!

    If I read your post wrong forgive me.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Rick - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Alex N Not to bust your bubble sir but fetal blood comes thru the umbilical cord from the mother but the

    genetic Characteristics is predominately from the Father and Who's Father was Jesus Christ. That's why

    he had sinless blood , the part of Him that was Human was the flesh he had uncontaminated blood.

    Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood. Hebrews 2:14 we are partakers of the flesh and blood

    of corruption, he took part the flesh but not the blood contamination no sin. Also of course he had Spirit.

    Just something to think about.


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