Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."
Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates"
John 14:21"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Fathers commandments, and abide in his love."
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."
Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"
John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
"This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;"
John 15:10
"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
John 14:21
"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
1 John 3:22
"And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight."
Revelation 22:14
"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
Matthew 24:35
"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Hebrews 10:16
"This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;"
Romans 7:12
"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good."
1 John 3:22
"And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight."
"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Hebrews 10:16
"This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;"
Romans 7:12
"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good."
1 John 3:22
"And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight."
When it comes to stupidity; man seemingly has enough to go around to destroy himself without the Devil getting involved. 1 Peter 5:8 states: Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: and Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
When we consider these things; Isaiah 24 helps to clarify events: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. (v. 21 I believe). This chapter is so relevant for today I think I will focus my next study on it.
Now some today still hold to correct theology regarding man's ultimate helplessness in sin and inability to do any good; and the need to repent (actually given as a gift by God) and turn from his wicked ways through the help of the Holy Spirit. What many if not almost all fail to communicate effectively is that we change MASTERS in that change of heart from Satan to the Lord Jesus Christ. When we realize that being in league with spiritual darkness also adds to our judgment we understand better what Jesus means by hell was meant for the Devil and his angels ( Matt. 25:41). The world as it were is the conduit through Satan's organization of rulership over governments and regions of the earth to align with his campaign. He uses the flesh to physically act out that which is impressed on the souls of unregenerate man; that is rebellion to seek selfishly those earthly pleasures which soon shall pass.
This concept makes us comprehend how we are slaves of righteousness ( Romans 6:18 in NKJV which artificial intelligence lead me to; which is stronger than just servants in regular KJV.) Yes we are also His friends ( John 15:15) as the enmity was ended ( Eph. 2:16) because of Calvary.
Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."
Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"
John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
The force of daily habits pulled me away from the fixed local church, and along with it came the loss of the desire to listen to sermons. This led me - and even forced me - to study on my own. Not that it is an effort that bores me, but the more I know the Word, the easier it becomes to see and understand how God never wanted religiosity.
The various theologies, which I briefly mentioned in my last post, are part of one of my studies this semester. In the verse (see Isaiah 57:21) "There is no peace," says my God, "for the wicked." Wouldn't this be what is happening nowadays? Or would it?
This chapter shows us the secret of fellowship with God and how to develop a deep fellowship with Him. In the previous chapters, one of the reasons for God's judgment upon His people, Israel and Jerusalem, was disobedience - the way they began to pervert justice and turn away from the truth the Lord had established in the covenant at Sinai, through the Law.
Moving on to ( Isaiah 57:1), we see that, even in that time, those who obeyed God were treated with hostility. How many times did the Lord Jesus Himself, in ( John 15:20), affirm that the righteous would be persecuted. ( Matthew 10:21) "You will be persecuted and handed over, even by your own relatives."
In ( Isaiah 57:2), we understand the reason. The righteous were taken away to be spared from evil.
Many times, the Lord allows the death of His saints precisely to deliver them from something worse.
You mention that you should have included that if you continue to abide in Christ as in John 15:6-7, then you are secure. Well, if I may share with you some good news, you and I will continue to abide in Christ and Christ will continue to abide in us.
I'm not sure if you recall me mentioning quite some time ago that John Chapter 15 is my favorite chapter in the entire bible. I have been blessed by studying Jesus' teaching of the genuine vine and the branches. There's a special Greek word in this chapter that is also found throughout the NT.
The word is MENO which means to abide, dwell, remain, or stay. This word denotes permanency. It is a word that is used to describe our relationship with Christ. We abide/MENO in Christ, and Christ abides/MENO in us, continuously and permanently.
I believe the same as you that one who continues to abide in Christ is a true believer because a true believer continuously abides in Christ. As far as walking in the Spirit, Galatians 5:25 says, "If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit."
If we live in the Spirit, we should also be walking in the Spirit. What this is saying is that if we're saved, if we have Christ's Spirit in us, then we should also be walking in the Spirit. This is not encouraging those of us who are saved to do it. What this is saying is that if we live in the Spirit, then we should be walking in the Spirit.
Brother Jesse, thank you. Wow, your reply is already off the discussion page. When I responded and said no, I will not walk away, I should have included that if I continue to abide in Christ as in John 15:6-7, then I am secure. You say a true believer will not fall away, and I agree, but to me, one who continues to abide in Christ is a true believer, and the Holy Spirit will strengthen them to endure until the end if we walk in the Spirit.
Should we ask what salvation truly is? Is it a one-time event, as it is often strongly preached today, 2 Timothy 4:3-4, or is it a lifelong journey? I see salvation as encompassing the past, present, and future. When we accept Jesus through faith, our past sins are forgiven, we are justified by faith, declared innocent of sin, and covered with a white garment, clean and pure.
We then begin a lifetime of sanctification, becoming more like Christ, and we must continually repent of our sins, walking in the Spirit to keep our garments spotless, as 1 John 1:9 states. I believe this is why there are so many warnings that we must endure, to overcome, and keep our garments spotless. We must maintain our garments, which signify a lifelong relationship with Jesus through the Holy Spirit on the way to our glorification when we are resurrected.
Our robes are made white not by us but, Revelation 7:14, unrepentant sin defiles, Revelation 3:4-5, staying steadfast in our faith, Revelation 16:15. This is lifelong; we are to be faithful until our death, Revelation 2:10, Revelation 12:11. There is a reason for these many warnings; we should at least ask why.
Some concluding thoughts on persecution during Christ's earthly reign
Remember what I told you: 'A servant is not greater than his master.'[a] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. ( John 15:20)
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. ( 2 Timothy 3:12).
Let us summarize several types of persecution:
1. Verbal: Accusing Christ of working with the power of Beelzebub ( Matthew 12:24)
Accusing Christ of illegitimate birth ( John 8:41)
Accusing Christ of blasphemy ( John 10:33 when they attempted to stone Him for claiming to be God
Accusing Christ of being a glutton and alcoholic (implied with response in Matthew 11:18-19) when He ate with
"sinners"
2. Physical Numerous attempts to stone Jesus; throw Him off a cliff; etc.
3. His trial
Twisting prophetic statement of destroying the Temple and rebuilding in 3 days ( Matt. 27:39-40 quoting statement made way back in John 2:19
Mocking Him with regal garments; beating Him with a rod; smashing a crown of thorns on His head; beating with a whip of metal and glass shards; spitting at Him; forcing Him to carry the cross until collapse; and the crucifixion which also involved the Jews urging Him to be crucified and releasing a murdurer; mocking Him again to "get off of the cross"; jeering from those crucified alongside Him; and many other things.
I am abbreviating this study as one needs only to read the Gospels to get a sense of the intensity of the trials which Christ endured for the sake of the elect and His disciples and to do the Father's will; first and foremost. Persecution and death for the Apostles and many in the early church is good reading also to see how true revival often is birthed.
So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do. ( Luke 17:10).
Well; that pretty well sums things up.
If we look at this carefully; we should realize that along with this attitude self flagellation and such once again put us into a religious fervor that can cause us to compete with others and even our own past performance and it becomes a pride issue that we are so humbled and doing so much to rid ourselves of something that still affects us due to our actions!
I am sure some further study can be given here. Surrounding verses show how a servant in an earthly context make sure food is prepared and served; and once consumed by the master of the house then the servant can tend to their own needs wherever they go after their duties are done. There are other verses directed to the Pharisees which clue us in to the warnings about pride and being seated in the bestplaces only to be humbled; so that we should be exalted in taking the lowest places in public gatherings involving a feast as His example.
I can't see how we should treat other believers as second class citizens or unprofitable; as there are too few actually out there fulfilling the Great Commission on any regular basis. Jesus indeed called us "friends" in John 15:14-15. What we see here as I can tell is a warning or rebuke to those who are true servants so that pride doesn't creep in and realizing all we have that is good comes from the Spirit. Thus; the concept of avoiding a "religious" spirit that is not of God. Of course that can relate to service in and outside of church in any capacity. Our whole life is part of ministry and of course if kids see hypocrisy they are the first to bring it up. Saying; "shut up and do as I say because I say so" ain't gonna be too productive; actions speak louder than words but we need both.
4. The understanding of a Tripartite God by Israel/Jews would be absolutely unthinkable ( Deuteronomy 6:4). It was only after Jesus appeared, and Him making His Father known to His people, and by His Words, His Life & powerful ministry, would cause some to believe & accept His Words that He "proceeded forth and came from God" ( John 8:42).
Not only Jesus' teaching to His disciples and to all those who would give ear to His Words, but those apostles (and Paul), would then further teach & impress upon the hearts of the Church that Jesus was indeed the Christ from God ( 1 Corinthians 8:6). In my understanding, Jesus Christ had to be wholly Divine & Human - purposed by God for that great Sacrifice to be acceptable to the Him. Any other creation, whether of man or animal to be sacrificed, wouldn't cut it, for nothing else could demonstrate God's Love & a full & free redemption for all who would believe. And of course, the very real potential for failure would exist if a man was created specially for sacrifice. Would God then have a Plan B if that should happen? I don't believe so, it was everything of God or nothing; our redemption hung completely on God taking on flesh and paying the only price that could be paid to secure and seal our salvation. In this glorious act alone, we see & understand such undeserved Love for us sinners ( John 15:13). Blessings to you.
now that i "know" christ's love Ephesians 2:19 Corinthians 3:4-7 and the whole book of Colossians
Shall we analyse?
Remember the song
Christ is the portrait of God - Colossians 1:15
Before he was born
He did justice and in himself he died
Supremacy and thrones are
They are yours - Colossians 1: 16-17
And that thread that broke
From my soul to God - Colossians 1:21
The holy blood sewed
Christ and his lines of love - Colossians 1: 20
And now a man made I
Can in man see God
Have peace, live, walk and be
Made me a friend in his pouring out - John 15:15
When we were targets of God's wrath now we have Peace with God - Romans 5:1
I have a doubt that you probably theologians (formal or deep self-taught), show me if there is something I missed.
to go to church or not to go to church?
1 Thessalonians 5:11, 1 Peter 4:9, Psalms 133:1-3, Galatians 5:13. all these chapters do not speak of the church that is of my generation, Hebrews 10:24-25 this verse speaks of the mutual congregation.
continuing Romans 12:10, Ephesians 4:32, Acts 2:41-47, 1 John 1:6-7, 2 Corinthians 13:11, 1 Peter 1:22, Colossians 3:16, Philippians 2:1-2, John 13:34, Ecclesiastes 4:9-12, Psalm 55:14. I keep reading and re-reading Romans 12 and I wonder if it's in everyday life or gathered with the church.
Today's scripture verse is John 15:18 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you."
Yesterday I met someone extraordinary who is working in one area of crime in our area and is a Christian. I won't even get into the specifics for reasons of confidentiality; as the enemy no doubt would want to dismantle what has been done for the Kingdom of God. Only occasionally have I met someone who I would consider "sold out" for the Lord as to attempts to evangelize and fight spiritual warfare in the process and rejoices in being in the worst neighborhoods all hours of the day and night. The efforts of God's army must utilize the same tactics as the enemy; branching out to those of every tongue; nation and language as Revelation 7:9 indicates along with the Great Commission in Matthew 28:16-20.
Evil follows the same sort of tactic; it has many tentacles and branches out in complex hierarchical structures. One of the most dangerous things we can do is try to stay away from everything and follow our everyday routine; pretending nothing is wrong.
There are certain situations; nonetheless that in His perfect wisdom will be averted and should be avoided; and whenever we plan to reach out and share of His amazing grace it behooves us not to go unprepared with prayers covering our backs and have prayer and scripture as meditation in our minds.
No one is perfect of course; but we need to pay attention to Godly men and women who are clearly outstanding in their faith as proved by their actions.
As a further note of warning based on what I learned the other day; there is much in churches that is often swept under the rug so to speak. And I am not referring to the Catholic church only. There has in general been too little accountability overall; and this also relates to those who are not given wise counsel in regard to the sacredness of the marriage covenant who ditch their first wives to marry another even in leadership. Let's keep praying.
I am temporarily interrupting my study in Matthew which started as insight on Christ's perfect manhood and Divinity.
Recently I have studied and seen several videos regarding revivals since the 1700's. I believe that there were instances of genuine conviction; weeping in particular due to conviction of the Spirit but also that sadly most of these movements if not immediately soon had clear evidences of false manifestations of demons which were taken to be "moves of the Spirit".
One of the more disturbing things which I see popping up today is the so called "fire of God". The verse I saw used and no doubt has been in several establishments is the idea of God being a "consuming fire". Whether it refers to the Lord transforming the earth after the Tribulation or at the end of the Millennium the context is pretty clear this is God's JUDGMENT. We must remember the Spirit comes as the helper ( John 14:26). Seeking the gifts of the Spirit is one thing; but to ask for more of the Spirit isn't what Luke 11:13 means it states how much more will He give you the Holy Spirit. To grow in grace and truth and in a way be more powerful spiritually comes through our obedience and love of Christ and His commandments. It isn't in other words an issue with God not willingly giving the Spirit which of course starts at salvation; or even more spiritual gifts but there is no scripture indicating we are to pray to the Spirit which proceeds from the Father ( John 15:26) and this is to testify of Him. Primarily it is as John 16:8 that describes the Spirit's role revealing sin; righteousness and judgment to come. We also must look inwardly as it is our sinfulness that led Him to the cross so any true experience should remind us as Peter said to Christ-depart from me for I am a sinful man ( Luke 5:8). The Spirit doesn't focus attention inward but outward to fulfill the Great Commission; albeit some things are meant for the Body only.
Thanks, brother, I'm not the best at putting on paper my understanding. I know some Scriptures refer to the Holy Spirit as he, but the Spirit is the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God dwells in us, Romans 8:9, 1 Corinthians 3:16 and, more. It is the power of the Holy Spirit that does the work of God, Romans 15:19, Jesus did the miracles by the Holy Spirit, Matthew 12:28, Luke 4:18, Acts 10:38, Hebrews 2:4.
Jesus said the words He spoke were not His words but the Fathers and God did the works, this was done by the Holy Spirit through Jesus. John 14:10. Jesus said the Holy Spirit/Comforter proceedeth from the Father John 15:26, Jesus said the Holy Ghost will not speak of himself but what he is told, so the Holy Spirit is under the direction of the Father and Jesus, John 16:13.
All the salutations are from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is not in any salutations. In Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb is the temple of it. No Holy Spirit, what I see in Scripture is the Holy Spirit is the conduit that God works through and now Jesus as well.
I hope this gives you enough info to see how I see the Holy Spirit and I know that is not what many believe. I do not want to offend and I hope I don't, but this is what I see in Scripture. I do not see the Holy Spirit as a person but as the power of God that surrounds this earth by which God and Jesus dwell in us to communicate, guide, and comfort us.
I would be the first to confess that the Trinity teaching goes against everything my mind tells me is true, for how indeed, can God be divided into three, let alone Him coming to Earth in human form? Yet fortunately, I have two appeals against holding such a belief: firstly, I would have to twist or alter the Word of God to suit my natural understanding, and this I will not do or else what then would I do to the rest of God's Word & how would it then instruct me if I were to change its meaning to appease my conscience & understanding?
And secondly, my conversion to Christ was very dramatic, requiring a full conversion (so to speak), than just the verbal assent given before my godly parents with maybe my limited childhood understanding. Not only did the Spirit of God come upon me (in Oct 23, 1979), arresting me in my sinful tracks, showing me the awful consequences of my sin & eternal hell, but as I then read the Bible with a regenerated spirit, I wondered 'why would such an Holy God send His only begotten Son to be the payment for my sin, and that I could make no acceptable sacrifice to Him to absolve my sin & guilt'? Couldn't He just provide a spotless heavenly lamb or bullock, where all Israel could see descending from the clouds & hear God's Voice say: 'this lamb is my great provision as sacrifice for your sins & by believing, you will be forgiven and received as my special children'? I thought, wouldn't that be more preferable, than creating another human just to put Him to death for no sins of His Own? We know "that greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" ( John 15:13). And this spoke to me as well; here we have a picture of one laying down his life for another, not having an iota of a chance of escaping death - but that through his death, another life (of someone that he loved) would be spared & given a chance to live. Onto Page 3.
Hello Timmywynne. There are many Scriptures that point to the Triune Nature of God, and specifically, that Jesus Christ & the Holy Spirit are revealed to us from the very Being of God the Father. When we think of the Trinity, we know we won't find that word in the Bible, as it is purely a descriptive word of what the Bible declares to be the fullness of God's Being. So to the verses you seek, and you will need to read them fully in your Bible.
Of Jesus Christ: Isaiah 9:6,7 (an Old Testament Prophecy); Micah 5:2 & John 1:1-14 (from everlasting); Matthew 1:22,23; Mark 2:5-7; John 8:56-58; John 16: 27,28; John 17:4,5; John 20:27,28; Philippians 2:5-7; Colossians 1:15-17; Colossians 2:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; Titus 3:13; Hebrews 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:8-10; 1 John 5:7; 1 John 5:20.
Of the Holy Spirit: Matthew 12:31; Luke 1:34,35; Luke 11:13; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7-11; Acts 5:3; Acts 8:29; Acts 13:4; Romans 8:14; Romans 8:26,27; 1 Corinthians 2:10-14; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 1 Corinthians 6:19; 1 Corinthians 12:11; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 10:29; 2 Peter 1:21; 1 John 5:6.
The above are a few Scriptures that point to the deity of Jesus Christ & God's Spirit: all showing that they don't work independently from God, but have been sent out from God, from God's Being, to accomplish His Purposes in the world. And we know that Jesus, as the Word of God clothed with humanity, is the very expression of God to the world ( John 14:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 John 4:2). Hope these will help you in your study of this very important doctrine. Blessings.
Hello Fuji. That's a good question, because if we try to find reference to what the people said in John 12:34 in the Mosaic Law, even in the Pentateuch, then we will be disappointed. Sometimes, reference to the Law doesn't imply the Mosaic Law, but the Laws & all of the Word of God that is the body of the Old Testament. An example of this would be when Jesus answered the Jews in John 10:34, "Is it not written in your LAW, I said, Ye are gods?" It was never written in the Mosaic Law, but in Psalm 82:6, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." And "gods" here is the other meaning of Elohim, and that is 'judges or rulers'. Another example is in John 15:25 (cf Psalm 35:19 & Psalm 69:4) or 1 Corinthians 14:21 (cf Isaiah 28:11,12).
So, the reference you gave won't be found in the Mosaic Law, but derived from the references elsewhere to Christ's eternal existence. And my Bible cross references the following to John 12:34: Psalm 110:4, Isaiah 9:7, and Daniel 7:13,14. Hope this helps a little.
Dear Peyla: This question typically involves Post Millenial and often Reformed believers who don't believe in the Millennial rule of Christ as coming after the Tribulation; they believe Christ returns instead and the new heaven and earth immediately commence.
There are many reasons that I disagree with that eschatological viewpoint but I won't elaborate here except to say that a literal interpretation of passages in Isaiah and Revelation in particular should make it clear enough that a literal 1000 year rule and reign of Christ will occur on the earth; as many allude to being like the seventh day of creation in the seventh millenium of earth which according to the Jewish calendar is near 6000 years at present (and supposedly off by about 200 years).
Anyway; the principal difference is that those whose works are judged are cast into the lake of fire which would indicate the unsaved status of those in that judgment from all the lost dead from all ages of earth. I have pointed out that the exception to those whose names weren't in the Book of Life would be the physical survivors for the entire Millennium period; who no doubt would live as Methuselah and Noah did over 900 years. Those who would die at 100 are considered accursed ( Isaiah 65:20).
This group would likely enter heaven as the old heaven and earth pass away.
As for those mentioned in 2 Corinthians 5:10 we see a purging of believers based on their works whether they were good or bad. This is not a salvation issue; but a reward one. Loss of rewards will no doubt be painful and the effects particularly pronounced during the Millennium when we rule as kings and priests on the earth ( Rev. 1; etal). This fire is for our final purification not hellfire which is eternal and doesn't bring any purification.
Let us be open to pruning and purification now ( John 15:2). This comes with sufferings and trials which all true believers are promised according to numerous scriptures.
"And I will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
CAUSE. Means to make or to bring forth.
KEEP. (shamar)
A primitive root; properly to hedge about (as with {thorns}) that {is} guard; generally to {protect} attend {to} etc.: - {beware} be {circumspect} take heed (to {self}) keep ({-er} {self}) {mark} look {narrowly} {observe} {preserve} {regard} {reserve} save ({self}) {sure} (that lay) wait ({for}) watch (-man).
When we examine verses such as Matthew 16:18 we see how the church would never be extinguished by the forces of darkness.
Again; as my last posting and many others that I have placed on this site in the past I emphasized the believing remnant of the true Christians vs pretenders as being much smaller than the professing church. In that group we once again need to differentiate a smaller group who wish to be godly in Christ Jesus and suffer persecution. ( 2 Timothy 3:12). Thus; we see a differentiation of rewards in heaven and those who wish to be great will seek His face to be given the desire to run the race with endurance as Paul did and find examples of godly individuals to emulate.
Ruling and reigning is something the book of Hebrews discusses of those who are in the "hall of fame" and in the great cloud of witnesses ( Heb. 12:1-2). Therefore we are currently "seated in heavenly places" ( Ephesians 2:6). Therefore the history of the church is something which will be today once tomorrow comes; and it leads to the future when we will rule as "kings and priests" on the earth. ( Rev. 1:6; also see 5:10). For now the church is in training for this future by our pruning by the Spirit and our trials and testings on earth to refine us as gold ( 1 Peter 1:7).
It is a good thing that the church has continued to succeed; especially when ALL seven churches that originated in the area of Turkey today ceased to exist within a few centuries of their inception at least where they were originally as the vast majority of citizens there are Muslim. We can also see that deception comes shortly after revivals as was the case where Paul warned Timothy of what would come in the last days after he departed within their own midst. Much of this these days can be blamed on faulty logic; when we just want to bring in numbers to fill the church there is always compromise on verses such as 2 Cor. 13:5; and John 15:2. We should make disciples.
In your patience possess ye your souls. ( Luke 21:19).
"Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." ( James 5:7).
There are many verses on the subject of patience or longsuffering both related to God and His approved servants who eventually enter into their reward. There is no doubt that God honors those who persevere but we also need to recall the situation of Lot who as 2 Peter 2:7 states ...And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked". We don't want to be too comfortable with evil around us and in particular become compromised to maintain a lifestyle of ease. As we see with Lot his choice to enter the well watered lowlands looked good when he split up from Abraham but in the end he escaped literally from the flames with the collateral damage of what happened to his wife.
Patience therefore with our own sin can't be tolerated. We also are to sound our voice as a trumpet as Jeremiah did and the other Prophets. God patiently endures vessels fitted for destruction ( Romans 9:22; read on to verse 23). Wickedness will not be tolerated in God's Kingdom when He reigns on earth after He comes again. We need to see that God is refining us through the wickedness of sinners opposed to us and generally in rebellion that we see all around us. We don't know who is going to come to Christ and also we should keep in mind John 15:2 and 2 Timothy 2:21 where the branches we possess as believers can be purged or other useless appendages cut out from sinful connections to our dead past that we hang on to.
God will complete the work He has started ( Philippians 1:6). He will see all His sheep who hear His voice eventually enter heaven and safe pasture; and all the goats will be judged.
These earthly trials will soon be over; let us encourage one another until He comes.
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
Nevertheless, when our hearts are rightly related to Him, then there is a confidence given to us:
Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. (v. 21)
Furthermore, when we are in His will, there are added tokens that we are His children:
And whatever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. (v. 22)
Answered prayer is an argument that one is a legitimate child of God. The prayer life of the believer is vital in assuring the soul of salvation.
Love for the Brethren!!
A love for the brethren and a passion for the souls of men are evidence that we are children of God. One of the most convicting and confirming facts sealing assurance to the heart is love of the brethren. Scripture is positive at this point:
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. ( 1 John 3:14)
Animosity and hatred in the heart will rob the child of God of assurance. Malice toward another Christian produces bitterness of soul and is therefore not a fertile soil to cultivate assurance. Malice is condensed anger. Lack of love for another believer robs more Christians of real enjoyment and satisfaction in the Christian life than perhaps any other single factor. It not only blights the soul of the Christian, but it also destroys any public testimony:
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. ( John 13:35)
To love other believers is not elective:
These things I command you, that ye love one another. ( John 15:17)
Do not let a little root of bitterness rob you of assurance. Make things right with other believers.
RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - In Reply - 1 year ago
Line 8-11 My Respond: I believe fruit can also allow growth and to bear.
God's confirming his covenant & to be God's son and in growth. Galatians 3:17 KJV
Though we have an important role to play, even our determination to flourish with fruit of the Spirit is evidence of God's grace.
Eveidence- Hebrews 11:1 KJV
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Myself trusting God and having faith has blessed me with evidence to receive (fruit of the Spirit)
Ways you can have faith is by reading your Holy Bible, prayer, attending church, involved in ministry, volunteering.
The Holy Spirit is the one who stimulates our desire to grow in Christ. Growth is gracious. My interpetation is God's grace Matthew 3:2 KJV, Ephesians 2:8 KJV
Trust that growth will happen, and when it does, thank Jesus for the fruit produced by his appointment.
Producing fruit John 15:7-8 KJV
Elder Graves Quoted Motivations for Christian Excellence
4. Excellence is a Witness to Others:
Line 5-8 My Respond: Having faith on Jesus death,burial and resurrection1 Corinthians 15:3-4 has blessed me and with integrity and Fairness.
Elder Graves Quoted Examples of Biblical Excellence
I like your scripture on Daniel and the Three Hebrew Boys:
My Respond:Daniel giving God credit, reference, Glory that is due.
Elder Graves Quoted 2.Define What Excellence Means to You:
My Respond:
Myself practicing these helps me show myself approved.
Elder Graves Quoted 3.Develop Habits of Diligence and Discipline:
My repsond:
Yes it prepared me in career, ministry, amd personal life.
My interpetation and Word spoken by Redappletreaty4meonly
John 15:3 - Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Notice the Perfect Tense "I have spoken unto you." In other words, it covers the entire three-year period. The Lord says you are clean through the word that I have spoken unto you. God cleanses His people spiritually through the hearing and study of His word. It is a very fascinating concept!
John 15:5 - I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
The word abideth is a Present Participle. Literally it is translated "The one who is continually abiding in me." It is a lifestyle; it is an unchanged condition. The one who is abiding in me and I in him, this same one, and I'll read it to you literally: is bearing much fruit: It is a factual statement! Not should bear fruit, but is bearing fruit.
Jesus says the one who is continually abiding (MENO) in me, (that is a condition, a saved person), and I in him, this same person is bearing fruit. It is impossible to have the Spirit of Christ in you and you not bear fruit. Impossible!
John 15:15 - Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
From now on I call you not servants; (that is the word DOULOS for slaves), for the slave doesn't know what his lord or master is doing: but I have called you friends; because all things that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.
John 15:25 - But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
"They hated me without a cause."
What is interesting in this clause, the last word "cause" is both the Hebrew and Greek word for "gift," to give something to someone without a cause, no reason for it.
Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."
Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates"
John 14:21"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Fathers commandments, and abide in his love."
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Blessings
Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."
Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"
John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Blessings
Exodus 20:8
"Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."
Hebrews 10:16
"This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;"
John 15:10
"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
John 14:21
"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
1 John 3:22
"And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight."
Revelation 22:14
"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
Matthew 24:35
"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
Blessings
John 15:10
"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Hebrews 10:16
"This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;"
Romans 7:12
"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good."
1 John 3:22
"And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight."
Blessings
John 15:10
"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Hebrews 10:16
"This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;"
Romans 7:12
"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good."
1 John 3:22
"And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight."
Blessings
When it comes to stupidity; man seemingly has enough to go around to destroy himself without the Devil getting involved. 1 Peter 5:8 states: Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: and Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
When we consider these things; Isaiah 24 helps to clarify events: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. (v. 21 I believe). This chapter is so relevant for today I think I will focus my next study on it.
Now some today still hold to correct theology regarding man's ultimate helplessness in sin and inability to do any good; and the need to repent (actually given as a gift by God) and turn from his wicked ways through the help of the Holy Spirit. What many if not almost all fail to communicate effectively is that we change MASTERS in that change of heart from Satan to the Lord Jesus Christ. When we realize that being in league with spiritual darkness also adds to our judgment we understand better what Jesus means by hell was meant for the Devil and his angels ( Matt. 25:41). The world as it were is the conduit through Satan's organization of rulership over governments and regions of the earth to align with his campaign. He uses the flesh to physically act out that which is impressed on the souls of unregenerate man; that is rebellion to seek selfishly those earthly pleasures which soon shall pass.
This concept makes us comprehend how we are slaves of righteousness ( Romans 6:18 in NKJV which artificial intelligence lead me to; which is stronger than just servants in regular KJV.) Yes we are also His friends ( John 15:15) as the enmity was ended ( Eph. 2:16) because of Calvary.
Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."
Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"
John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Blessings
e. Much doctrinal confusion come from failing to rightly divide Prophecy and Mystery.
f. Romans 11 is where prophecy and mystery touch (see Rom 11:25-26), but
i. Do we partake of Israel's tree? Do we fit the description of the wild graft?
2. Wild and Broken Israel
a. Israel fell because of unbelief, they rejected Christ - Rom 11:20 (9:32, 10:2-3)
b. Peter speaks of unbelieving Israel and a people coming out of darkness - 1 Pet 2:6-10
c. Hebrews speaks to Israel in disbelief, and a people in the wilderness - Heb 3:12-4:2
d. John spoke of Israel not receiving, but some did receive grace/truth - John 1:11-14
e. Jesus spoke of being the vine, branches abiding in him, others broken - John 15:1-6
f. Jesus said the kingdom would be removed from blind Israel, given to"IMPORTANT" A NATION... Matt 21:33-43
g. Hosea - Israel becomes 'not my people', then receives mercy - Hos 1:9-10
h. Jeremiah wrote of Judah becoming a degenerate plant - Jer 11:16, 2:21
i. Isaiah spoke of God's fruitful plant becoming wild - Isaiah 5:2-4
j. Isaiah also spoke of a root and light coming to Gentiles - Isa 11:10, 42:6, 49:6
k. Ezekiel spoke of grafting branches of Judah and Israel together - Eze 37:16-20
l. Paul spoke already of Israel's two vessels of wrath & remnant - Rom 9:21-24, 11:5-7
m. If you struggle with the New Covenant, Hebrews, John, 'not my people', Calvinism, two
houses of Israel, MMLJ you will end up thinking we are the grafted in branches.
3. Looking Closer at the Graft
a. To get an understanding of the passage, people tend to summarize or tell stories.
i. Jews had God's blessing, but now Gentiles which leads to Israel's salvation.
b. Summarizing is good, unless it overlooks important details.
i. The roots/trees/branches already existed before the graft (prophesied) 11:18
ii. The graft is personal: "and thou" "if thou boast" " fear" - 11:18-19
iii. The graft stands by faith (the same faith that the broken refused) 11:20
see page 3
Part 1
The force of daily habits pulled me away from the fixed local church, and along with it came the loss of the desire to listen to sermons. This led me - and even forced me - to study on my own. Not that it is an effort that bores me, but the more I know the Word, the easier it becomes to see and understand how God never wanted religiosity.
The various theologies, which I briefly mentioned in my last post, are part of one of my studies this semester. In the verse (see Isaiah 57:21) "There is no peace," says my God, "for the wicked." Wouldn't this be what is happening nowadays? Or would it?
This chapter shows us the secret of fellowship with God and how to develop a deep fellowship with Him. In the previous chapters, one of the reasons for God's judgment upon His people, Israel and Jerusalem, was disobedience - the way they began to pervert justice and turn away from the truth the Lord had established in the covenant at Sinai, through the Law.
Moving on to ( Isaiah 57:1), we see that, even in that time, those who obeyed God were treated with hostility. How many times did the Lord Jesus Himself, in ( John 15:20), affirm that the righteous would be persecuted. ( Matthew 10:21) "You will be persecuted and handed over, even by your own relatives."
In ( Isaiah 57:2), we understand the reason. The righteous were taken away to be spared from evil.
Many times, the Lord allows the death of His saints precisely to deliver them from something worse.
"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
John 15:8
"Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples."
Matthew 7:19
"Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."
Blessings
(Part 1):
You mention that you should have included that if you continue to abide in Christ as in John 15:6-7, then you are secure. Well, if I may share with you some good news, you and I will continue to abide in Christ and Christ will continue to abide in us.
I'm not sure if you recall me mentioning quite some time ago that John Chapter 15 is my favorite chapter in the entire bible. I have been blessed by studying Jesus' teaching of the genuine vine and the branches. There's a special Greek word in this chapter that is also found throughout the NT.
The word is MENO which means to abide, dwell, remain, or stay. This word denotes permanency. It is a word that is used to describe our relationship with Christ. We abide/MENO in Christ, and Christ abides/MENO in us, continuously and permanently.
I believe the same as you that one who continues to abide in Christ is a true believer because a true believer continuously abides in Christ. As far as walking in the Spirit, Galatians 5:25 says, "If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit."
If we live in the Spirit, we should also be walking in the Spirit. What this is saying is that if we're saved, if we have Christ's Spirit in us, then we should also be walking in the Spirit. This is not encouraging those of us who are saved to do it. What this is saying is that if we live in the Spirit, then we should be walking in the Spirit.
Should we ask what salvation truly is? Is it a one-time event, as it is often strongly preached today, 2 Timothy 4:3-4, or is it a lifelong journey? I see salvation as encompassing the past, present, and future. When we accept Jesus through faith, our past sins are forgiven, we are justified by faith, declared innocent of sin, and covered with a white garment, clean and pure.
We then begin a lifetime of sanctification, becoming more like Christ, and we must continually repent of our sins, walking in the Spirit to keep our garments spotless, as 1 John 1:9 states. I believe this is why there are so many warnings that we must endure, to overcome, and keep our garments spotless. We must maintain our garments, which signify a lifelong relationship with Jesus through the Holy Spirit on the way to our glorification when we are resurrected.
Our robes are made white not by us but, Revelation 7:14, unrepentant sin defiles, Revelation 3:4-5, staying steadfast in our faith, Revelation 16:15. This is lifelong; we are to be faithful until our death, Revelation 2:10, Revelation 12:11. There is a reason for these many warnings; we should at least ask why.
Thank you, brother.
God bless,
RLW
Matthew 7:14
"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
John 15:8
"Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples."
Matthew 7:19
"Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."
Blessings
Remember what I told you: 'A servant is not greater than his master.'[a] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. ( John 15:20)
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. ( 2 Timothy 3:12).
Let us summarize several types of persecution:
1. Verbal: Accusing Christ of working with the power of Beelzebub ( Matthew 12:24)
Accusing Christ of illegitimate birth ( John 8:41)
Accusing Christ of blasphemy ( John 10:33 when they attempted to stone Him for claiming to be God
Accusing Christ of being a glutton and alcoholic (implied with response in Matthew 11:18-19) when He ate with
"sinners"
2. Physical Numerous attempts to stone Jesus; throw Him off a cliff; etc.
3. His trial
Twisting prophetic statement of destroying the Temple and rebuilding in 3 days ( Matt. 27:39-40 quoting statement made way back in John 2:19
Mocking Him with regal garments; beating Him with a rod; smashing a crown of thorns on His head; beating with a whip of metal and glass shards; spitting at Him; forcing Him to carry the cross until collapse; and the crucifixion which also involved the Jews urging Him to be crucified and releasing a murdurer; mocking Him again to "get off of the cross"; jeering from those crucified alongside Him; and many other things.
I am abbreviating this study as one needs only to read the Gospels to get a sense of the intensity of the trials which Christ endured for the sake of the elect and His disciples and to do the Father's will; first and foremost. Persecution and death for the Apostles and many in the early church is good reading also to see how true revival often is birthed.
Agape.
So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do. ( Luke 17:10).
Well; that pretty well sums things up.
If we look at this carefully; we should realize that along with this attitude self flagellation and such once again put us into a religious fervor that can cause us to compete with others and even our own past performance and it becomes a pride issue that we are so humbled and doing so much to rid ourselves of something that still affects us due to our actions!
I am sure some further study can be given here. Surrounding verses show how a servant in an earthly context make sure food is prepared and served; and once consumed by the master of the house then the servant can tend to their own needs wherever they go after their duties are done. There are other verses directed to the Pharisees which clue us in to the warnings about pride and being seated in the bestplaces only to be humbled; so that we should be exalted in taking the lowest places in public gatherings involving a feast as His example.
I can't see how we should treat other believers as second class citizens or unprofitable; as there are too few actually out there fulfilling the Great Commission on any regular basis. Jesus indeed called us "friends" in John 15:14-15. What we see here as I can tell is a warning or rebuke to those who are true servants so that pride doesn't creep in and realizing all we have that is good comes from the Spirit. Thus; the concept of avoiding a "religious" spirit that is not of God. Of course that can relate to service in and outside of church in any capacity. Our whole life is part of ministry and of course if kids see hypocrisy they are the first to bring it up. Saying; "shut up and do as I say because I say so" ain't gonna be too productive; actions speak louder than words but we need both.
4. The understanding of a Tripartite God by Israel/Jews would be absolutely unthinkable ( Deuteronomy 6:4). It was only after Jesus appeared, and Him making His Father known to His people, and by His Words, His Life & powerful ministry, would cause some to believe & accept His Words that He "proceeded forth and came from God" ( John 8:42).
Not only Jesus' teaching to His disciples and to all those who would give ear to His Words, but those apostles (and Paul), would then further teach & impress upon the hearts of the Church that Jesus was indeed the Christ from God ( 1 Corinthians 8:6). In my understanding, Jesus Christ had to be wholly Divine & Human - purposed by God for that great Sacrifice to be acceptable to the Him. Any other creation, whether of man or animal to be sacrificed, wouldn't cut it, for nothing else could demonstrate God's Love & a full & free redemption for all who would believe. And of course, the very real potential for failure would exist if a man was created specially for sacrifice. Would God then have a Plan B if that should happen? I don't believe so, it was everything of God or nothing; our redemption hung completely on God taking on flesh and paying the only price that could be paid to secure and seal our salvation. In this glorious act alone, we see & understand such undeserved Love for us sinners ( John 15:13). Blessings to you.
Shall we analyse?
Remember the song
Christ is the portrait of God - Colossians 1:15
Before he was born
He did justice and in himself he died
Supremacy and thrones are
They are yours - Colossians 1: 16-17
And that thread that broke
From my soul to God - Colossians 1:21
The holy blood sewed
Christ and his lines of love - Colossians 1: 20
And now a man made I
Can in man see God
Have peace, live, walk and be
Made me a friend in his pouring out - John 15:15
When we were targets of God's wrath now we have Peace with God - Romans 5:1
I have a doubt that you probably theologians (formal or deep self-taught), show me if there is something I missed.
to go to church or not to go to church?
1 Thessalonians 5:11, 1 Peter 4:9, Psalms 133:1-3, Galatians 5:13. all these chapters do not speak of the church that is of my generation, Hebrews 10:24-25 this verse speaks of the mutual congregation.
continuing Romans 12:10, Ephesians 4:32, Acts 2:41-47, 1 John 1:6-7, 2 Corinthians 13:11, 1 Peter 1:22, Colossians 3:16, Philippians 2:1-2, John 13:34, Ecclesiastes 4:9-12, Psalm 55:14. I keep reading and re-reading Romans 12 and I wonder if it's in everyday life or gathered with the church.
Thank you very much!
Yesterday I met someone extraordinary who is working in one area of crime in our area and is a Christian. I won't even get into the specifics for reasons of confidentiality; as the enemy no doubt would want to dismantle what has been done for the Kingdom of God. Only occasionally have I met someone who I would consider "sold out" for the Lord as to attempts to evangelize and fight spiritual warfare in the process and rejoices in being in the worst neighborhoods all hours of the day and night. The efforts of God's army must utilize the same tactics as the enemy; branching out to those of every tongue; nation and language as Revelation 7:9 indicates along with the Great Commission in Matthew 28:16-20.
Evil follows the same sort of tactic; it has many tentacles and branches out in complex hierarchical structures. One of the most dangerous things we can do is try to stay away from everything and follow our everyday routine; pretending nothing is wrong.
There are certain situations; nonetheless that in His perfect wisdom will be averted and should be avoided; and whenever we plan to reach out and share of His amazing grace it behooves us not to go unprepared with prayers covering our backs and have prayer and scripture as meditation in our minds.
No one is perfect of course; but we need to pay attention to Godly men and women who are clearly outstanding in their faith as proved by their actions.
As a further note of warning based on what I learned the other day; there is much in churches that is often swept under the rug so to speak. And I am not referring to the Catholic church only. There has in general been too little accountability overall; and this also relates to those who are not given wise counsel in regard to the sacredness of the marriage covenant who ditch their first wives to marry another even in leadership. Let's keep praying.
I am temporarily interrupting my study in Matthew which started as insight on Christ's perfect manhood and Divinity.
Recently I have studied and seen several videos regarding revivals since the 1700's. I believe that there were instances of genuine conviction; weeping in particular due to conviction of the Spirit but also that sadly most of these movements if not immediately soon had clear evidences of false manifestations of demons which were taken to be "moves of the Spirit".
One of the more disturbing things which I see popping up today is the so called "fire of God". The verse I saw used and no doubt has been in several establishments is the idea of God being a "consuming fire". Whether it refers to the Lord transforming the earth after the Tribulation or at the end of the Millennium the context is pretty clear this is God's JUDGMENT. We must remember the Spirit comes as the helper ( John 14:26). Seeking the gifts of the Spirit is one thing; but to ask for more of the Spirit isn't what Luke 11:13 means it states how much more will He give you the Holy Spirit. To grow in grace and truth and in a way be more powerful spiritually comes through our obedience and love of Christ and His commandments. It isn't in other words an issue with God not willingly giving the Spirit which of course starts at salvation; or even more spiritual gifts but there is no scripture indicating we are to pray to the Spirit which proceeds from the Father ( John 15:26) and this is to testify of Him. Primarily it is as John 16:8 that describes the Spirit's role revealing sin; righteousness and judgment to come. We also must look inwardly as it is our sinfulness that led Him to the cross so any true experience should remind us as Peter said to Christ-depart from me for I am a sinful man ( Luke 5:8). The Spirit doesn't focus attention inward but outward to fulfill the Great Commission; albeit some things are meant for the Body only.
Thanks, brother, I'm not the best at putting on paper my understanding. I know some Scriptures refer to the Holy Spirit as he, but the Spirit is the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God dwells in us, Romans 8:9, 1 Corinthians 3:16 and, more. It is the power of the Holy Spirit that does the work of God, Romans 15:19, Jesus did the miracles by the Holy Spirit, Matthew 12:28, Luke 4:18, Acts 10:38, Hebrews 2:4.
Jesus said the words He spoke were not His words but the Fathers and God did the works, this was done by the Holy Spirit through Jesus. John 14:10. Jesus said the Holy Spirit/Comforter proceedeth from the Father John 15:26, Jesus said the Holy Ghost will not speak of himself but what he is told, so the Holy Spirit is under the direction of the Father and Jesus, John 16:13.
All the salutations are from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is not in any salutations. In Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb is the temple of it. No Holy Spirit, what I see in Scripture is the Holy Spirit is the conduit that God works through and now Jesus as well.
I hope this gives you enough info to see how I see the Holy Spirit and I know that is not what many believe. I do not want to offend and I hope I don't, but this is what I see in Scripture. I do not see the Holy Spirit as a person but as the power of God that surrounds this earth by which God and Jesus dwell in us to communicate, guide, and comfort us.
God bless,
RLW
I would be the first to confess that the Trinity teaching goes against everything my mind tells me is true, for how indeed, can God be divided into three, let alone Him coming to Earth in human form? Yet fortunately, I have two appeals against holding such a belief: firstly, I would have to twist or alter the Word of God to suit my natural understanding, and this I will not do or else what then would I do to the rest of God's Word & how would it then instruct me if I were to change its meaning to appease my conscience & understanding?
And secondly, my conversion to Christ was very dramatic, requiring a full conversion (so to speak), than just the verbal assent given before my godly parents with maybe my limited childhood understanding. Not only did the Spirit of God come upon me (in Oct 23, 1979), arresting me in my sinful tracks, showing me the awful consequences of my sin & eternal hell, but as I then read the Bible with a regenerated spirit, I wondered 'why would such an Holy God send His only begotten Son to be the payment for my sin, and that I could make no acceptable sacrifice to Him to absolve my sin & guilt'? Couldn't He just provide a spotless heavenly lamb or bullock, where all Israel could see descending from the clouds & hear God's Voice say: 'this lamb is my great provision as sacrifice for your sins & by believing, you will be forgiven and received as my special children'? I thought, wouldn't that be more preferable, than creating another human just to put Him to death for no sins of His Own? We know "that greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" ( John 15:13). And this spoke to me as well; here we have a picture of one laying down his life for another, not having an iota of a chance of escaping death - but that through his death, another life (of someone that he loved) would be spared & given a chance to live. Onto Page 3.
Of Jesus Christ: Isaiah 9:6,7 (an Old Testament Prophecy); Micah 5:2 & John 1:1-14 (from everlasting); Matthew 1:22,23; Mark 2:5-7; John 8:56-58; John 16: 27,28; John 17:4,5; John 20:27,28; Philippians 2:5-7; Colossians 1:15-17; Colossians 2:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; Titus 3:13; Hebrews 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:8-10; 1 John 5:7; 1 John 5:20.
Of the Holy Spirit: Matthew 12:31; Luke 1:34,35; Luke 11:13; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7-11; Acts 5:3; Acts 8:29; Acts 13:4; Romans 8:14; Romans 8:26,27; 1 Corinthians 2:10-14; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 1 Corinthians 6:19; 1 Corinthians 12:11; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 10:29; 2 Peter 1:21; 1 John 5:6.
The above are a few Scriptures that point to the deity of Jesus Christ & God's Spirit: all showing that they don't work independently from God, but have been sent out from God, from God's Being, to accomplish His Purposes in the world. And we know that Jesus, as the Word of God clothed with humanity, is the very expression of God to the world ( John 14:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 John 4:2). Hope these will help you in your study of this very important doctrine. Blessings.
So, the reference you gave won't be found in the Mosaic Law, but derived from the references elsewhere to Christ's eternal existence. And my Bible cross references the following to John 12:34: Psalm 110:4, Isaiah 9:7, and Daniel 7:13,14. Hope this helps a little.
There are many reasons that I disagree with that eschatological viewpoint but I won't elaborate here except to say that a literal interpretation of passages in Isaiah and Revelation in particular should make it clear enough that a literal 1000 year rule and reign of Christ will occur on the earth; as many allude to being like the seventh day of creation in the seventh millenium of earth which according to the Jewish calendar is near 6000 years at present (and supposedly off by about 200 years).
Anyway; the principal difference is that those whose works are judged are cast into the lake of fire which would indicate the unsaved status of those in that judgment from all the lost dead from all ages of earth. I have pointed out that the exception to those whose names weren't in the Book of Life would be the physical survivors for the entire Millennium period; who no doubt would live as Methuselah and Noah did over 900 years. Those who would die at 100 are considered accursed ( Isaiah 65:20).
This group would likely enter heaven as the old heaven and earth pass away.
As for those mentioned in 2 Corinthians 5:10 we see a purging of believers based on their works whether they were good or bad. This is not a salvation issue; but a reward one. Loss of rewards will no doubt be painful and the effects particularly pronounced during the Millennium when we rule as kings and priests on the earth ( Rev. 1; etal). This fire is for our final purification not hellfire which is eternal and doesn't bring any purification.
Let us be open to pruning and purification now ( John 15:2). This comes with sufferings and trials which all true believers are promised according to numerous scriptures.
Agape; blessings.
RHP
"And I will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
CAUSE. Means to make or to bring forth.
KEEP. (shamar)
A primitive root; properly to hedge about (as with {thorns}) that {is} guard; generally to {protect} attend {to} etc.: - {beware} be {circumspect} take heed (to {self}) keep ({-er} {self}) {mark} look {narrowly} {observe} {preserve} {regard} {reserve} save ({self}) {sure} (that lay) wait ({for}) watch (-man).
KJV Usage: keep(283x), observe(46x), heed(35x), keeper(28x), preserve(21x), beware(9x), mark(8x), watchman(8x), wait(7x), watch(7x), regard(5x), save(2x), misc(9x).
Occurs: 468
In verses: 440.
Here we notice "obey" is omitted.
This is directed to the heart of man that LEADS to obedience.
We're not perfect but that what you do obey is persuaded.
John 15:4-5 reads
"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Paul describes this battle of this persuasion in these fleshly bodies in Romans 7.
This is what the Holyspirit does!
Jesus carried the Apostles and when he went away he sent them another Comforter. .
They wasn't prepared for ministry until then. .
God bless.
When we examine verses such as Matthew 16:18 we see how the church would never be extinguished by the forces of darkness.
Again; as my last posting and many others that I have placed on this site in the past I emphasized the believing remnant of the true Christians vs pretenders as being much smaller than the professing church. In that group we once again need to differentiate a smaller group who wish to be godly in Christ Jesus and suffer persecution. ( 2 Timothy 3:12). Thus; we see a differentiation of rewards in heaven and those who wish to be great will seek His face to be given the desire to run the race with endurance as Paul did and find examples of godly individuals to emulate.
Ruling and reigning is something the book of Hebrews discusses of those who are in the "hall of fame" and in the great cloud of witnesses ( Heb. 12:1-2). Therefore we are currently "seated in heavenly places" ( Ephesians 2:6). Therefore the history of the church is something which will be today once tomorrow comes; and it leads to the future when we will rule as "kings and priests" on the earth. ( Rev. 1:6; also see 5:10). For now the church is in training for this future by our pruning by the Spirit and our trials and testings on earth to refine us as gold ( 1 Peter 1:7).
It is a good thing that the church has continued to succeed; especially when ALL seven churches that originated in the area of Turkey today ceased to exist within a few centuries of their inception at least where they were originally as the vast majority of citizens there are Muslim. We can also see that deception comes shortly after revivals as was the case where Paul warned Timothy of what would come in the last days after he departed within their own midst. Much of this these days can be blamed on faulty logic; when we just want to bring in numbers to fill the church there is always compromise on verses such as 2 Cor. 13:5; and John 15:2. We should make disciples.
"Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." ( James 5:7).
There are many verses on the subject of patience or longsuffering both related to God and His approved servants who eventually enter into their reward. There is no doubt that God honors those who persevere but we also need to recall the situation of Lot who as 2 Peter 2:7 states ...And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked". We don't want to be too comfortable with evil around us and in particular become compromised to maintain a lifestyle of ease. As we see with Lot his choice to enter the well watered lowlands looked good when he split up from Abraham but in the end he escaped literally from the flames with the collateral damage of what happened to his wife.
Patience therefore with our own sin can't be tolerated. We also are to sound our voice as a trumpet as Jeremiah did and the other Prophets. God patiently endures vessels fitted for destruction ( Romans 9:22; read on to verse 23). Wickedness will not be tolerated in God's Kingdom when He reigns on earth after He comes again. We need to see that God is refining us through the wickedness of sinners opposed to us and generally in rebellion that we see all around us. We don't know who is going to come to Christ and also we should keep in mind John 15:2 and 2 Timothy 2:21 where the branches we possess as believers can be purged or other useless appendages cut out from sinful connections to our dead past that we hang on to.
God will complete the work He has started ( Philippians 1:6). He will see all His sheep who hear His voice eventually enter heaven and safe pasture; and all the goats will be judged.
These earthly trials will soon be over; let us encourage one another until He comes.
1 John 3:20.
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
Nevertheless, when our hearts are rightly related to Him, then there is a confidence given to us:
Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. (v. 21)
Furthermore, when we are in His will, there are added tokens that we are His children:
And whatever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. (v. 22)
Answered prayer is an argument that one is a legitimate child of God. The prayer life of the believer is vital in assuring the soul of salvation.
Love for the Brethren!!
A love for the brethren and a passion for the souls of men are evidence that we are children of God. One of the most convicting and confirming facts sealing assurance to the heart is love of the brethren. Scripture is positive at this point:
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. ( 1 John 3:14)
Animosity and hatred in the heart will rob the child of God of assurance. Malice toward another Christian produces bitterness of soul and is therefore not a fertile soil to cultivate assurance. Malice is condensed anger. Lack of love for another believer robs more Christians of real enjoyment and satisfaction in the Christian life than perhaps any other single factor. It not only blights the soul of the Christian, but it also destroys any public testimony:
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. ( John 13:35)
To love other believers is not elective:
These things I command you, that ye love one another. ( John 15:17)
Do not let a little root of bitterness rob you of assurance. Make things right with other believers.
See Part 9.
God's confirming his covenant & to be God's son and in growth. Galatians 3:17 KJV
Though we have an important role to play, even our determination to flourish with fruit of the Spirit is evidence of God's grace.
Eveidence- Hebrews 11:1 KJV
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Myself trusting God and having faith has blessed me with evidence to receive (fruit of the Spirit)
Ways you can have faith is by reading your Holy Bible, prayer, attending church, involved in ministry, volunteering.
The Holy Spirit is the one who stimulates our desire to grow in Christ. Growth is gracious. My interpetation is God's grace Matthew 3:2 KJV, Ephesians 2:8 KJV
Trust that growth will happen, and when it does, thank Jesus for the fruit produced by his appointment.
Producing fruit John 15:7-8 KJV
Elder Graves Quoted Motivations for Christian Excellence
4. Excellence is a Witness to Others:
Line 5-8 My Respond: Having faith on Jesus death,burial and resurrection1 Corinthians 15:3-4 has blessed me and with integrity and Fairness.
Elder Graves Quoted Examples of Biblical Excellence
I like your scripture on Daniel and the Three Hebrew Boys:
My Respond:Daniel giving God credit, reference, Glory that is due.
Elder Graves Quoted 2.Define What Excellence Means to You:
My Respond:
Myself practicing these helps me show myself approved.
Elder Graves Quoted 3.Develop Habits of Diligence and Discipline:
My repsond:
Yes it prepared me in career, ministry, amd personal life.
My interpetation and Word spoken by Redappletreaty4meonly
West Angeles Church Cogic Cathedral member
John 15:3 - Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Notice the Perfect Tense "I have spoken unto you." In other words, it covers the entire three-year period. The Lord says you are clean through the word that I have spoken unto you. God cleanses His people spiritually through the hearing and study of His word. It is a very fascinating concept!
John 15:5 - I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
The word abideth is a Present Participle. Literally it is translated "The one who is continually abiding in me." It is a lifestyle; it is an unchanged condition. The one who is abiding in me and I in him, this same one, and I'll read it to you literally: is bearing much fruit: It is a factual statement! Not should bear fruit, but is bearing fruit.
Jesus says the one who is continually abiding (MENO) in me, (that is a condition, a saved person), and I in him, this same person is bearing fruit. It is impossible to have the Spirit of Christ in you and you not bear fruit. Impossible!
John 15:15 - Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
From now on I call you not servants; (that is the word DOULOS for slaves), for the slave doesn't know what his lord or master is doing: but I have called you friends; because all things that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.
John 15:25 - But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
"They hated me without a cause."
What is interesting in this clause, the last word "cause" is both the Hebrew and Greek word for "gift," to give something to someone without a cause, no reason for it.