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  • Carleton - In Reply - 4 years ago
    For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

    John 3:20

    Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

    Matthew 3:12

    And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

    Acts 2:3

    And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    Acts 2:4

    For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.

    Hebrews 13:11

    Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

    Hebrews 13:12

    And straightway coming up oit of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:

    Mark 1:10

    Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

    Hebrews 10:22

    And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.

    Luke 22:10

    Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

    1 Peter 3:20

    And John also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

    John 3:23

    And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

    Acts 1:4-5

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  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 4 years ago
    Hello Free. I'm sorry that I missed your comment to me, but will address it now. My apologies.

    In 1 Corinthians chapter 11, the apostle is speaking about this relationship within the New Covenant. Before Jesus came to Earth as a babe, the Bible tells us that He was the Word of God ( John 1:1-14). In other words, God manifested Himself to His people, Israel, through the giving of His Word & by His Spirit through His prophets. But now in these last days (i.e. New Covenant days - post Cross), He has spoken to us by His Son, that Word Who was made Man ( Hebrews 1:1,2).

    So, now when we see Jesus, He is seen (in the NT), as God made flesh, died, buried, resurrected, & ascended to sit at the Father's right Hand ( Luke 22:69; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 10:12). Jesus holds within Himself the full divinity of God His Father, all His Glory, & receives all the worship ( Hebrews 1:6; Revelation 5:12), but He now remains distinct in 'bodily' form because of His incarnation. And this is a picture of how we will be when translated to live in Heaven ( 1 John 3:2).

    Therefore, God as Jesus' Father will always be at the Head, then Jesus as His only begotten Son next in position, then man as God's first creation in God's Image, & then woman made out of man, both of them bearing God's Image.

    I don't understand your statement: "Also how do you say we are not under the old law but then makes new laws for women?" The only way I can understand your statement is to say that under the old Law, there was neither need nor provision for women preaching in the Church; there was no Church. This "ordinance" that Paul delivered ( 1 Corinthians 11:2) is entirely based on the risen Christ & His Church - nothing at all to do with any 'old' Law or whether the women of old ministered as prophets, judges, warriors, etc. Under the New Covenant, there is also a new order in His Body, as for those who now worship God in spirit & in Truth. Blessings.
  • Sheila Davis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    That is a question that has been asked for ages. Some feel that the devil knows your thoughts, while most others don't.

    Scripture does not give a definite answer on that subject but scripture does indicate that not only the devil but some angelic beings have access to one's mind _ Acts 5:3 Satan filled the heart of Ananias _ Luke 22:3 Satan entered Judas _ Matthew 1:20 -25 an angel came to Joseph in a dream _ Genesis 31:11 an angel of the Lord spoke to Jacob in a dream. One can argue that to have access to one's mine doesn't mean they can read your thoughts.

    And there are these scriptures

    Job 1:7-12 Satan before God discusses Job and the amount of access he can have to Just.

    Ephesians 6:11-16 discusses to put on the whole armor of God and to *quench* the fiery darts of Satan.

    James 4:7 tells us to *resist* the devil and *he will flee*.

    1st Peter 5:8 tells us Satan is like a roaring lion *seeking* whom he can *devour.*

    Revelation 12:10-12 the devil stands before God day and night accusing man, and woe to the inhabitants of the earth the devil has come down.

    Scripture is clear - Jesus knew one's thoughts even while in a flesh body Matthew 9:4. To Jesus the spirit was given to him without measure John 3:34.

    I believe Satan and certain angels have the ability to read some of someone's thoughts and Satan, being the accuser is allowed to influence those thoughts. I feel Satan and the angelic beings who have access to any thoughts of the minds/hearts of mankind are given a limited measure, unlike God who has full measure. Example what I'm going to eat for breakfast or what type of clothes I'm going to wear any given day isn't something they would need access to or even care about. But the part of the mind our decisions are made against good or for what we know is right, Satan knows our thoughts.
  • Leah Sonne - 4 years ago
    Luke 22:52 Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves? 53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

    You forgot to put these words in red as these are Jesus' words. This passage is so encouraging to me because it's when Jesus heals the ear of the high priest's servant. What I read into this passage is that this servant now has undeniable proof of the holiness of our Lord and Savior, an eye witness, and Jesus is willing to do this healing despite being arrested and led to what he knows will be his death. The only thing that concerns me is that Jesus told his disciples to purchase the swords, by selling their coats. He appears to be setting the scene for this miracle. However, maybe he just wanted his disciples to have arms in order to be able to get away. Thanks for making this book available in this form online.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on John 1 - 4 years ago
    Chris,

    If I may ask a question, I respect your knowledge of scripture. Jesus is the Son of God the beginning of creation, He is the first and the last, and His name is above all other names that are named and through Him, all was created. After His resurrection, God placed Him above all, until He puts every enemy under His feet, and we know that is death, ( 1 Corinthians 15:25-28).

    We do see in ( Romans 8:3) He was sent in the likeness of sinful flesh, but there was not any sin in Him as was the first Adam when God formed him. The way many use the word Godhead, which is the same Greek words for divine, divinity, and divine being, gives the impression that Jesus could not sin. If Jesus was unable to sin what did He defeat? ( Hebrews 2:14-19)

    The covenant had to be fulfilled in the flesh that was capable of sinning to be able to break the curse of sin. Jesus coming and what He suffered for us was the will of the Father. We even see in ( Matthew 26:39-44) and ( Luke 22:41-44) being in agony asking the Father if there is another way, but not the Sons' will but the Fathers.

    Can't we know and accept the divinity of Jesus, as the Son of God, His name above all names, Him (Jesus) who now holds the authority overall, by God placing Him above all, Jesus is Almighty, ( Revelation 1:8), without saying He is God, which is called a mystery and confuses many? What I see and hear from scripture, there is God the Father, the Son of God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, all are one in the will of the Father, and we as the servants of Christ, and through Jesus, we do the will of the Father and are one with the Father. Am I wrong?

    I do not want to cause strife, this is just a seriously honest question asked out of love.

    RLW
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Psalms 66 - 4 years ago
    Brother Larry, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Knowing ( Matthew 13:11) God (God is TRUTH) is all that matters.

    God is LIFE, we are the vessel (pot) that HOLDS that LIFE.

    YOU (sinful flesh) DIED on the CROSS, with CHRIST, YOU (the new creation of CHRIST's resurrection) will never DIE AGAIN ( Luke 22:35-36).

    The vessel (our body of flesh will return to dust, at the harvesting of the new (SPIRIT) man), the new man (CHRIST IN YOU) will BECOME ONE (be married) to CHRIST.

    Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY (CHRIST), and ONE SPIRIT (the FATHER) ( John 17:21).

    What CHRIST has always been, the SON of GOD, you will be.

    Seek you first the Kingdom of God (created by the birth of truth and life) and all these things (comforts of life) will be added to you ( 1 Corinthians 4:7).
  • USING THE SEARCH BOX TO FIND STUFF - In Reply - 4 years ago
    There are 59 verses with the word 'Apostles' in them. You can view the others by typing APOSTLES IN THE SEARCH BOX. Then you can sort the list to put them in book order.

    Matthew 10:2 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

    Mark 6:30 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught.

    Luke 6:13 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;

    Luke 9:10 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And the apostles, when they were returned, told him all that they had done. And he took them, and went aside privately into a desert place belonging to the city called Bethsaida.

    Luke 11:49 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:

    Luke 17:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith.

    Luke 22:14 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.

    Luke 24:10 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.

    If the search box cannot find your word searches, it means it's not in the KJV Bible.

    Mishael
  • Messenger - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Romans 5:12 Wherefore (as a result), as by one man sin entered into the world ( Genesis 3), and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

    all man (woman, children) on this earth are sinners . Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) is not looking for perfection.

    he's looking for *grief (repentance) and repentance from within ( Ps. 51:4). that inner thought and mind.

    that inner regret and groaning because of bad . but what if a person keep sinning willingly? Hebrews 10:26; 1 Corinthians 6:9,10

    however, what can be done to run in a way that doesn't cause

    a big stumble or fall with self or others?

    Psalm 1:1-3; 2 Timothy 3:16,17 study and correct

    Luke 22:40 prayer

    1Corinthians 15:33 Abandon anything that is influencing bad behavior.( Proverbs 13:20)

    *Example of major sin:

    2Samuel 12:1-18; Ps. 51:4

    I hope this helps. there is more... but don't want to

    overwhelm. ( Romans 7:14-25)
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    John 14:1-3 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

    I know how many perceive these verses and this is not to debate that, it is to show my understanding if someone wants to study it.

    We see in ( John 13:1) this is right before the last Passover Jesus would attend before he would be crucified, and Jesus just then knew His hour had come. We see this by what He told them in ( Luke 22:14-16). We must keep in mind the things coming, Jesus being arrested, crucified, and His resurrection was hidden from the apostles until after His resurrection and He appeared to them.

    When Adam sinned, sin filled the dwelling-place that God could no longer dwell in man and man could not dwell in God. The word mansions are the same word, Strong's 3438 mon meaning lodging, dwelling-place, room, abode, mansion. Jesus told them He was going to prepare a place for you. We know where He was going, the cross.

    Jesus did prepare a place He gave is life, body, and blood and that dwelling place that Adam filled with sin, Jesus paid the price and now God through Jesus by the Holy Spirit, God can now dwell in man and man can dwell in God.

    Jesus will return, His second coming and when all is new, we will forever be with Him.

    God bless us, and our ears open.

    RLW
  • English sacha - In Reply on Luke 22 - 4 years ago
    I think that comment is know in sports as a "slam dunk " . Keep up the good work . If one person takes notice it's worth it .
  • D W L on Luke 22 - 4 years ago
    Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if (THOU) be willing, remove this cup from (ME): nevertheless not MY will, but (THINE, be done.

    John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

    I'm so glad that JESUS never acted a lie or tried to deceive, he said not MY will but the will of him that sent me.
  • Dgjot - In Reply on Luke 22 - 4 years ago
    Thank You, Ronald.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Luke 22 - 4 years ago
    Hi Dgjot,

    I agree with you and Chris it is not spiritual swords. They would not need physical swords, the Holy Spirit would lead and protect them until their mission was fulfilled and as you said, most all of them, just like Jesus told them, they were beaten, put in prison, and were killed. The actual reason for Jesus asking them to buy swords was to fulfill a prophecy. He told them in,

    Luke 22:37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

    ( Isaiah 53:12) Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Dgjot - In Reply on Luke 22 - 4 years ago
    Thank You, Chris.
  • Chris - In Reply on Luke 22 - 4 years ago
    Hello Dgjot. I believe you're correct in understanding that Jesus wasn't speaking of spiritual swords but actual swords. If He was speaking of spiritual swords, then His Words to His disciples would be meaningless as they were clearly instructed to purchase swords. Jesus would have been inferring that in their future ministry (after they received Holy Ghost power), their life of faith would be different to what they enjoyed when walking with Him in the present.

    When He sent them out to minister to the people, did they lack anything?, He asked. Here was a special intervention & provision given to the twelve in their exercise of faith & power to deliver the burdened & oppressed. They lacked nothing; but now that special grace would be removed (i.e. they would have to exercise faith in different ways: they had to work for a living, they had to confront their opponents with the Power & Grace of Christ, they had to speak as the Spirit gave them utterance, etc.).

    So, to purchase swords would not be for their protection in the ministry of the Gospel, but I think, for being equipped in their journey into the unknown farther reaches ("the uttermost parts of the Earth"), where defence against robbers, wild beasts, etc. would require one to have protection. And then we should ask, "Did any of the apostles after Pentecost ever carry swords?" We're not told that they ever did, nor did they ever use one, but I would suspect that they didn't carry swords, rather the Sword of the Spirit. But as the apostles willingly suffered & died for the love of their Saviour, so must we when confronted by the opponents of the Gospel & not offer resistance. But should we venture out amongst the thieves & wild beasts in the world, then being armed maybe the prudent thing to do.
  • Dgjot on Luke 22 - 4 years ago
    Luke 22:36 (Jesus speaking) 36 "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Key words: SELL & BUY

    Matthew Henry, 1710 said "At the time the apostles understood Christ to mean real weapons, but he spake only of the weapons of the spiritual warfare. The sword of the Spirit is the sword with which the disciples of Christ must furnish themselves."

    It is also written: Ephesians 6:12

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

    I think Matthew Henry is wrong on this one. Jesus protected His followers while He was alive. When He was killed, his followers lost their divine protection. Jesus knew they would be persecuted and it seems to me that He was implying that it's okay to defend yourselves when someone is trying to kill you. I know that real followers of Jesus will suffer. The Apostles all died horribly. But those of us that were born AFTER Jesus ascended into Heaven are to walk by faith, not by sight. We weren't there when Jesus was alive and walking the earth. We didn't hear Him speak or see His miracles. Dying for Jesus is one thing. Being a door mat for every infidel/pagan/wicked reprobate to walk on is another thing.

    Spiritual swords are for spiritual battles and metal swords are for worldly battles. Did the Jews go to war holding only their holy scrolls or did they use swords and shields of iron??
  • D W L - 4 years ago
    Freedborn in Truth - Jesus told PETER a Disciple when thou are CONVERTED (means changed).

    Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

    62 And Peter went out, and wept bitterly.

    Peter seemed to fall down often but kept repenting until he overcame his weakness. Some are to proud to repent and be humble.
  • Gerald - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Candle, Hi! Not sure if this is a whole question or a 2 part but I'll do my best to break it down. Reconciliation by Webster's def. 1] to restore, resolve, or settle, 2] to make consistent, 3] to cause to submit to something unpleasant, 4] to check or balance. Biblical def. 1] the act of reconciling 2 parties or renewal of friendship after enmity. 2] by which sinners are reconciled and brought into favor with God. Biblically used 8 times, Lev.8;15, 2 Corinth. 5:19, Heb. 2:17 (to note the common ones). Communion simply means to have fellowship with God, and or his people by His Spirit. Both Web. and Bible say the same. Used only 3 times in scripture twice in the same verse and all in the letters to the Corinthian church. Confirmation again both basically say the same; the act of confirming or establishing, being MORE FIRM. Lets put it all together, but please do not just read the scriptures I give but read the whole chapters to put it in context and better perspective. The Blood of Christ is not to be mishandled, treated with disrespect, and or otherwise scoffed at. It was His Blood that was shed at Calvary, therefore there is Power, healing, deliverance, and ultimately Salvation through His Blood for us today. When Jesus said take this cup drink, for this is the New Test. in my blood... Luke 22: 20(please forgive me I paraphrased) He was setting the example (as typology it wasn't real blood) for the church to do the same in the days to come but to be mindful and careful as oft as you do it setting the precept for the first communion(for us) but being the last fellowship for Him. The reconciliation part well...I think 2 Corinth. 5:19 says it all ever since Adam sinned it put enmity between God and man. After God created everything(including the angels) He saw that it was good but still there was something missing, He wanted something to worship Him on his own free will hence the man but sin entered the picture and well we had to have reconciliation, be Blessed. Gerald
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Elliott.

    I think he was referring to this.

    Luke 22:36. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

    Luke 22:38. And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

    God bless.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hi Dianne,

    First, Jesus rose before sun rise on the first day of the week (Sunday), on the Feast of First Fruits, one of the feasts they were required to come to Jerusalem. Jesus fulfilled it, being the First Fruits of those who slept. Whatever day Jesus was crucified does not change what He endured and what He did was for us.

    There are five days covered in scripture from the day Jesus rode in to Jerusalem till He was crucified, starting ( Matthew 22:12) ( Mark 11) ( Luke 19) John covers it differently ( John 12:12-50). This will rule out Wednesday because that would put Jesus' riding in on a Sabbath, he could not ride the colt/donkey, it would break the Sabbath law.

    In (John12:1-8) it is six days before Passover, some say He traveled from Jericho so it could not be on a Sabbath but ( Luke 19) He went up to Jerusalem but then says it came to pass, so He could have been close to Bethany before the Sabbath. ( John 12:12-16) the next day Jesus rides into Jerusalem. So, if Jesus rode in on the first day, my choice, what is called Palm Sunday, gives you Thursday or if He rides in on the second day, Monday, gives you Friday.

    Things to consider;

    The third day, or the third day from? Three days and three nights? Days start and end at sunset. What preparation day, the Passover day or Friday? Passover is the 14 th of Nisan, a preparation day, one day separate from the feast 15 th - 21 st, People then and now consider it an eight-day feast and calling it the feast of Passover or the feast of unleavened bread, it is two separate things.



    You see in ( John 13:1) ( Luke 22:1) ( Matthew 26:17) and in ( Mark 14:12) the first day of unleavened bread when they kill the Passover. They kill the Passover on the 14 th same day Jesus was crucified, not during the feast of unleavened bread, that started the 15 th. We have to look close with eyes wide open.

    This is not enough to rightfully cover. I hope this is enough for studying, and not just enough to confuse.

    RLW
  • Jethrodoromalyahoocom - 5 years ago
    WHO IS JESUS? PLEASE STUDY YOUR SCRIPTURE: Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. AND VERSE 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: AND AGAIN IN REVELATION 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. ----BUT IN ISAIAH 44:"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." AND AGAIN ISAIAH 48:12Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.---WHY HE IS THE FIRST? BECAUSE HE IS THE BEGINNING OF ALL: GENESIS 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. AND HE IS THE LAST: ECCLESIASTES 12:7Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.--- AND AGAIN IN MATTHEW 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. AND ALSO IN ( MARK 14:24; LUKE 22:20; AND IN 1 CORINTHIANS 11:25) ALL OF THESE VERSES DECLARED ABOUT THE NEW COVENANT. BUT THE COVENANT IS EVERLASTING IN EXODUS 31:16"Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant." AND AGAIN IN LEVITICUS 24:8Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.---THERE IS A CONTINUATION (NEXT COMMENT)
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Hey Wesley

    The 1000 Year Kingdom will be on the earth, not in heaven, ( Revelation 11:15) It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod ( Revelation 5:10). We know from ( Revelation 20:7-10), nations after the 1000 years.

    The thousand-year reign of Jesus, will be after the great tribulation of Satan, the beast and the false prophet. The second coming of Jesus with the army of angels, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13: 24-27) the first resurrected saints that meet Jesus in the air, ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) Jesus' feet land on Mount of Olives ( Zechariah 14:4)



    The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the ten king's armies of the beast that came up on Jerusalem to battle are destroyed. ( Revelation 19:11-21) and Satan is chained and put in the bottomless pit.

    Then the judgment seat of Christ for those that have been chosen to reign with Him in this Millennium Kingdom. ( Revelation 20: 4-6) People will live and die during this time. and when it is over, Satan will be released and bring an army for one last battle and fire comes down and Satan is cast in the lake of fire. ( Revelation 20:7-10)

    White Throne Judgment of the rest of the dead. The goats and the sheep, "some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt", "they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And then ( Revelation 21) The marriage and the marriage supper. Jesus said at the last supper ( Matthew 26:29) ( Mark 14:25) ( Luke 22:18) when it is new.

    The purpose of the thousand-year reign is to put this world in order and allow for the fulfillment of several promises God made with Israel, David and others.

    This is a brief view of what I see from my study, I am sure some, maybe you, will disagree and that's ok, may it cause study.

    RLW
  • Use of Commentaries To Study with Scholars - In Reply - 5 years ago
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    Wesley's Notes for Revelation 20:4

    20:4 And I saw thrones - Such as are promised the apostles, # Matt 19:28|; Luke 22:30. And they - Namely, the saints, whom St. John saw at the same time, # Dan 7:22|, sat upon them; and Judgment was given to them. # 1Cor 6:2|. Who, and how many, these are, is not said. But they are distinguished from the souls, or persons, mentioned immediately after; and from the saints already raised. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded - With the axe: so the original word signifies. One kind of death, which was particularly inflicted at Rome, is mentioned for all. For the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God - The martyrs were sometimes killed for the word of God in general; sometimes particularly for the testimony of Jesus: the one, while they refused to worship idols; the other, while they confessed the name of Christ. And those who had not worshipped the wild beast, nor his image
  • How Angels Assist the Heirs of Salvation - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Matthew 18:10

    Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

    Revelation 12:7

    And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels (demons)

    Psalms 91:11 - For he (GOD) shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

    Luke 22:43 - And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.

    Hebrews 1:14 - Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for THEM who shall be heirs of salvation?

    Acts 27:23 - For there stood by me (Paul) this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve.

    Psalms 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do HIS commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

    Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

    COMMENT: The Lord's Prayer is our best example! Matthew 6. This is how we ask God for what we need. The angels are sent by God. They obey God; and we are to ask God for angelic assistance.

    Hebrews 1:14

    Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be HEIRS of salvation?

    Last but not least, Ephesians 6. The spirit world is invisible, but can manifest in various ways. This is why we are to be growing our faith on SCRIPTURE (not Hollywood).
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 5 years ago
    I knew what you meant; I cheated and looked at Luke 22:51

    Jesus is still on earth preaching and teaching the same gospel.

    God bless
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 22:51 - 5 years ago
    JESUS LAST MIRACLE

    Hasn't been completed YET!

    Psalms 102:18 This shall be written for the GENERATION (so far 2000 years) to come: and the people which shall be CREATED shall praise the Lord.
  • WHAT WAS JESUS39 LAST MIRACLE on Luke 22:51 - 5 years ago
    Without looking it up, what was Jesus' last miracle?
  • Philip Christian Parks - In Reply on Hebrews 5:8 - 5 years ago
    Heb. 5:8 "the things which HE suffered" = Verse seven provides the answer as to what CHRIST "suffered". Translated from the Greek verb root (pronounced "PAS-kho"), the word "suffered" speaks of CHRIST experiencing and enduring physical and mental pain, hardship, and need. The English language derives the noun "passion" from the Greek verb "pascho".

    While John 11:35 records the only occurrence of JESUS CHRIST shedding tears as HE wept at Lazarus' grave, Luke 22:44 records HIS Gethsemane "agony" so severe that "HIS sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground."

    So the expression here in Hebrews (5:7), "with strong crying and tears" bears out the fact of CHRIST's "strong" emotional outbursts in Gethsemane before HE "suffered" death.

    Here, the Greek word translated "strong" speaks of an emotional upheaval so intense that the sufferer is unable to resist its eruption into gut-wrenching weeping and sobbing.

    Such was the manner of JESUS CHRIST's "prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto HIM".

    CHRIST's "suffering", and because HIS Heavenly FATHER was "able to save HIM from death", qualifies CHRIST as the believer's singular and sole "HIGH PRIEST" ( Heb. 5:5) in the realm of Salvation.
  • Where Jesus is Now on Revelation 1 - 5 years ago
    Acts 7:55-56

    But he (Stephen), being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

    Colossians 3:1

    If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

    Luke 22:69

    Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

    Acts 5:31

    Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

    Mark 16:19

    So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

    Hebrews 10:12

    But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

    1 Peter 3:22

    Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

    Romans 8:34

    Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

    Hebrews 12:2

    Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

    Matthew 22:44 (see Psalm 110:1)

    The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

    Revelation 5:7

    And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
  • Michael - In Reply on Romans 5 - 5 years ago
    Hello Dan,

    Thank you for taking the time to answer my 2 questions.

    1) You mention that the commandment at Leviticus 12:3 was a "suggestion". When the Law was give to Israel, they made a covenant between themselves and God. Please read Exodus 34:3-8. Notice specifically

    Exodus 24:3 "And Moses came and told the people ALL THE WORDS of the LORD, and ALL THE JUDGMENTS: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, ALL THE WORDS which the LORD hath said will we do."

    That does not sound like a "suggestion" but a command - an order. Jewish people have thus very meticulously made certain to circumcise their children. Moses was almost killed by the LORD because he had not circumcised his son. Please read Exodus 4:24-26. That seems to me that the LORD takes circumcision very, very seriously. In fact, in the first century, even believing Jews believed that a believer in the Messiah must be circumcised to be saved.

    Acts 15:1 "And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, EXCEPT YE BE CIRCUMCISED after the manner of Moses, YE CANNOT BE SAVED."

    2) You mention that the first century Church followed the 10 commandments.

    I do agree that they did follow 9 of those commandments. They are re-iterated in the New Testament or Covenant set up by Jesus through his blood mentioned at Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Luke 22:20. However, nowhere do the Apostles every tell the Church, in clear words, "remember to keep the sabbath". Could you provide me 1 verse where an apostle clearly says to keep the sabbath - that actual word "sabbath" being used? In fact, Paul says the opposite at Colossians 2:16 and Galatians 4:10.

    3) Now to answer your question. The apostles did not ever say that they obeyed the "10" commandments. They said that they obeyed the commandments. Those would be the commandments of the New Testament given by Jesus Christ through his Apostles via the letters of Romans to Revelation.

    I welcome your thoughts again.

    Good day to you, Dan.


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