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2 Timothy 3:1-5

But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

See also, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

If you'll turn to these scriptures in the Bible: if your Bible has center of the page Columns; they will refer you to others like, scriptures or prophesies.

Where in the bible does it say, in the last days children will rise up against there parents? Son against father?

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I'm not saying there isn't an Old Testament verse that talks about some going back into the land at some point. The Ethiopian and Eritrean Joos have been trying to migrate into Israel for about 10 years now and are rejected because they are black - a little hidden secret by many teachers. They are true blood Jews. I believe God started this work about 10 years ago so I believe we have no more than 30 more years before Jesus' return to set up His millennial reign.

The rapture had to take place no later than 1988 if 1948 is true. A Biblical generation is always 40 years or less. We have several passages in scripture with the number 40 in it. They are trying to now use a passage in Psalms out of context to make a generation 70 top 80 years. Ask Hal Lindsey and many others who predicted a pre-1988 rapture based on the 1948 Balfour Declaration (British/U.N.). Half the Joos live in America and most in New York City. They for the most part reject what goes on over there and many over there reject what is going on. That is why they predicted it. It is based on what they can see over what is really happening. Many Christians in Palestine were ethnic cleansed once the 1950's hit and not by Muslims. I will leave it at that. Would God do that to His people?

Matthew 24 only says, "his disciples came to him" yet Mark 13:3 actually tells you the FOUR disciples that came to Him with their three questions. It wasn't all of them.

But the entire Bible is written to all people to learn from. Jesus even said, "Had you believed Moses, you would have believed me because he wrote of me." Most modern sects don't even believe the Old Testament all by itself even though Jesus fulfilled over 300 prophecies that are in the Old Testament. If they didn't believe Moses, and didn't believe Jesus, why would you think they are going to read Matthew?

I agree. As we read the Bible, we come up with slightly different perspectives and one of those has to do with the time of the Rapture.

Please, show me your timeline of events recorded in Scripture about the End Time? I will list mine below. Please clarify. Thanks.

1. THE ANTICHRIST. Daniel 7-12

Daniel 9:27 - And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.

2. THE ANTICHRIST EXALTS HIMSELF OVER GOD IN THE TEMPLE.

Matthew 24:15 - when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination of desolation

3. THE GREAT TRIBUALTION.

Matthew 24:21 - at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world

Revelation 7:14 - These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 20:4 - I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the Beast.

4. THE COMING OF CHRIST and RAPTURE.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 - Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him

Matthew 24:3 - when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming

Matthew 24:29 - Immediately after the tribulation

Daniel 7:13 - and I saw One like a Son of Man coming with the clouds of heaven

1 Thessalonians 4 - we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds

Mark 13:26 - At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.d And He will send out the angels to gather His elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.

Revelation 18:4, - Come out of her, My people.

19:1f For the marriage of the Lamb.

Only the Father knows the day of the Rapture.

When is the fullness of the Gentiles complete? Romans 11:25-36

Matthew 24:36, 42, 44

Mark 13:32

Acts 1:11

And now a reminder: Ecclesiastes 12:9-14

29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.

Note: I was so busy with 8-5 /job making sure money flowed to maintain the american dream. 75% of the dream was having perishable stuff /idols that rust or moths eat up. I was so busy I did not realize the TRUTH in 28-29 above. Thank GOD for HIS WISDOM. WISDOM to both know and understand TIME is NIGH exactly like 29-29 bare witness to. Never-the-less John 3:16-21 is waiting on all who is willing to follow IT's instructions because The return of JESUS is NIGH. Also 31 above is TRUTH.

Ted, you have read the account of Lazarus in John 11. After Lazarus died, it was the custom to entomb the body, just as Jesus was after He was crucified. A tomb was a cave-like structure, whether natural or hewn into the side of a hill, so after burying the dead, a large stone was rolled at the opening to prevent people & animals from entering. The dead body was wrapped in grave clothes, which was an elaborate binding from head to foot, maybe to preserve something of the body form during the decaying process. Lazarus was in the tomb for four days already so decay had already begun. But when Jesus came to the opened tomb, he called for dead Lazarus to rise from the dead. So here we have a dead man just come to life, probably having difficulty breathing & with blinking eyes, so (in answer to your question), Jesus ordered that he be released from those binding grave clothes so he could get up & come to him & his family. And Lazarus was alive for the rest of his appointed days, though the Jewish leaders later on wanted to kill him & Jesus because of this miraculous act by Jesus. So Lazarus had to face the prospect of death again, which he finally did at old age. A man acquainted with dead, in very truth!

I'm just going to throw this in the comments about the time of the Rapture.

This may be why we are told to be Looking for Jesus 2 Peter 3:10-12.

Matthew 24:22 says...and except those days be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elects sake those days shall be shortened.

Mark 13:20 says basically the same thing.

That's why churches are not able to agree. And that's why I believe that's why Peter said what he did. Jesus said for us to keep our lamps filled with oil. Be ready now!

It's not going to be until the two State solution for Israel ends up tossed out. The land is DEEDED to Israel and I don't think God is going to allow that to happen. Ya gotta read all those OT covenants. The land is needed for The Return: which is happening now.

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In St. John 11, what did it mean when Jesus say loose him and let him go.

Can I say my Brothers, by the Word, it does seem water baptism does matter, there is a correct way, and in whose name we do know.

Acts 10:44

"While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word."

Acts 10:48| View Chapter| Context

And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Peter commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

Acts 8:38| View Chapter| Context

And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Both went down into the water and he baptised him.

Matthew 28:19| View Chapter| Context

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Did not even the Lord command us to go and teach all nations baptizing them in His name.

From the Word it is important, from the Word there was a way of doing it, from the Word we have been told to do it.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Mark 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

The Word is our absolute and that we all agree.

God bless you my Brothers, as for me, in humility to His Word, I want to take it just as He said it or moved His people to write It.

John 11:44 is kind of humorous to me. When I picture in my mind Lazarus coming out of the grave, and he is wrapped in little 3 inch bandages from his foot to his neck, and then he has got a towel over his head, and he is coming out like one of those mummies you see in the movies. He can hardly walk. He is bound hand and foot with grave clothes: and his face was bound about with a towel. Jesus said unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

Basically, Jesus is just telling them to unwrap him and let him go.

In St. John 11, what did it mean when Jesus say loose him and let him go.

Simona, You are correct as only God the Father knows the day of the return of his Son Jesus in glory. a companion verse is found in Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Hey John! :) glad to see you here. Grab a Bible and let's taste and see the goodness of the Lord.

I came here, looking for Jesus... and I have found him.

Mark 13:25-27
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Few know this but the woman is Israel / Church and she shall flee to the wilderness.
Pre trib rapture believers are not going to be happy.
Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

This could have been the actual state of situations at that time. It is literal instruction to cry to God for help, in these ways. To cry out to God for your children. It is also be prophetic for times past & future. Matthew 24:7 , Mark 13:8 , Luke 21:11 , Revelation 18:8

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Matthew 20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
Genesus 1:26 Let US make man,
Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Matthew 24 , Mark 13 and Luke 21 make it clear that ALL who love God are going to suffer persecution during the Days of the Men of Sin...3 of them,..2 Main Ones...First is Dan 7 25 for 3 1 2 years and Last is for 6 yrs 4 months ..2300 days in Dan 8:14....People will shout Peace and Safety during Dan 7:25 during which Time Covent of Death is Signed .. Isa 28: 18. That will be When lMARK becomes La

Amen. It is sad and regrettable that men have done damage to the faith of many people and have successfully overthrown the faith of millions though corrupt and distorted translation of the bible based upon apocryphal MSS. Some relevant examples are: St. John 7:53-8:11 1 John 5:7 St. Mark, and in St. Luke 2:33 which calls Joseph the father of Jesus in the NASB, and other translations.

Your problem is your too late when all power is returned back to the Father from the Son. I am dealing with the now, when the Son has power via God his Father in the now. The bible is not just a carnal book that you can read and say that is it. You have to read. Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

John 3:35 "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 5:20 " For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel."

That is the end, we are dealing with the "now" not the "then." Today now, Jesus the Son of God is in charge. Not waiting for the then when all power is given up by the Son and passed back to the Father. Looks like you have it all backwards. Jesus received power via God after the cross. Matthew 28 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

That is untill the end Andrew- 1Cor15:24-28 Then Cometh the End when He shall have delivered up the Kingdom to God even The Father when He shall have put down All Rule All Authority and Power For He must Reign till He hath put all enemies under His feet The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death For He hath put all things under His feet But when He saith all things are put under Him- Contine.

Your trying to understand God according to your carnality when Romans 1:23 changing the glory of God into corruptible man when it was his Son who came in the likeness of sinful flesh Romans 8:3. Without Jesus Christ the Son of God and his words in you, all you have is a mirage for a God. 1stJohn 5:9-15. When you have the Son if God you have life. When you don't have the Son no life period.

Romans 1:3-4 tells me in has been declared and settled in heaven that Jesus is the Son if God. Your way too late and way too out of context to place another perverted gospel called the trinity. That all started from the Roman Catholic church by using out of context scriptures. Bug deal you believe in one God so does the devil James 2:19. Only difference is devils tremble while man just pervets

God and his Word are two seperate things as he was not carnal like you and I. He used words to create things. Jesus said in Luke 8:11 the word is a seed. God the Father of Jesus spoke words and Mary got pregnant. God created things in the beginning by speaking words. The world was created by speaking words. Jesus spoke words which are spirit and life John 6:63. Jesus never spike his own words.

John 1:1 is talking about the Word. God and his Word are two seperate things in the bible. When you break John 1:1 down the word And is used. John1:2 would contradict verse 1 it is not God that was with God it was his Word. We do not hold God in our hands we hold his words. Jesus was a messenger from God his Father. God created things by using words. He is not carnal by using two hands.

Genesis 1:26 God was talking to somebody as the words "us and our" and NOT "me or I" is used.Basic 101 English God the Father wasn't talking to Lucifer in Genesis 1:26, he was talking to his Son Jesus. Jesus was always around in the old testament in Daniel 3:25 for example. No man can see God at anytime. John 3:16 God sent his Son Jesus and not himself as hd was not Superman to come In the flesh.