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Mark 13, verse 24-25 Jesus telling the apostle of a war which is the second coalition war and that date is April 11, 2003,

The smoke from the oil wells burning darkened the sky, the sun nor the moon's light will not shine through, a regime will fall (an American puppet), which will cause a vacuum and catch America by surprise.

Mark 13 verse 26 is the Abrahams Accord, dated august 13, 2020.

Mark 13:29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.

Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Knowing our authority

To pray for our loved ones we need to come against the enemy and pray that they would receive the truth. To come against the enemy, we need to first know what our power and authority is in Jesus.

Behold, I give unto you authority to tread over ALL the power of the enemy; and nothing shall by any means hurt you ( Luke 10:19). Authority is delegated power.

Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick ( Luke 9:1, 2).

For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants ( Mark 13:34).

In my name shall they cast out devils ( Mark 16:17).

What power and authority do these four verses say that Christ gave us? He gave us "All power and authority" over the enemy. Christ has given us His power and authority over Satan and his kingdom. However, it only works if we believe in faith and command in faith through Christ. When we come against Satan in faith, in the name of Jesus, Satan must obey. If you do not believe, if you have little faith, Satan knows, and will not listen to you. While Satan may not obey us, he must obey the authority of Jesus that we have been given and that we are operating in.

And who are we that Christ should give us such authority? you are a son (daughter); and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir ( Gal 4:7).

Comment: it is the authority Christ imparted to us, that we use to subdue enemies and cast their invisible selves into dry places of outer darkness. Never to return! Ephesians 6.

Vickie,

If the end starts in our lifetime the teachings of the rapture of the Church to heaven, will have many not prepared for what is coming. ( Daniel 12:1) ( Matthew 24:29-31) ( Mark 13:24-27) tell us after the tribulation Jesus sends His angels to gather His elect, the second coming, not the third.

The great tribulation is confused with the wrath of God. We will be spared the wrath of God but we are not told we will be spared tribulation, ( Acts 14:22) ( Romans 8:35) (2 Thessalonian 1:4). When the end starts and the things that scripture tells us that is coming, I feel many that trust in this teaching will lose their faith because they are still here.

"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved".

All the saints before, and what they had to endure, burning at the stake, crucifixion, beheadings, fed to lions, and more. Are we better or more worthy than they, to be spared? Do we exalt ourselves above those who came before us? Christians are still today being killed.

1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

This verse is said shows we meet Jesus and are taken to heaven. Is anywhere in this verse where our destination is? Does this verse say we go to heaven? How can we assume something that is not written? Does being carried to heaven line up with the other scriptures about Jesus's second coming? Where are the chosen told they will reign, heaven or earth?

Millions of dollars have been made from this theory.

2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

May we walk and be led by the Holy Spirit of truth.

RLW

Brother Vincent,

Interpreting end time prophesy is challengingto say the least, and to attribute an event(s) to a trumpet(s) in revelation is even harder.

You list events that took place recently. Not to say these events you listed aren't earth moving world events, but what about the fall and rise of the many great empires around the world over the past centuries, these were also great events.

Jesus said that only his father knows when the end time will be, and I believe Jesus.

Many past generations also felt as we do today that the end time is right around the cornerand it didn't happen in their time - and it may not happen in our timein reality it could last another day, another year, 10 years, 100 years, or many more.

Mark 13:32

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

We do need to be prepared..because we don't know.none of us knowonly God!

God Bless

Brother Misheal,

Not easy to predict the end time events

You stated:" they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China)"

The color of sapphire is normally Blue.

China's flag is Red and Yellow. So not sure where you see the relevance

I enjoy reading all of your posts, and this one reminds me today on Saturday, the Holy Sabbath Day:

Mark 13:32

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

Happy Sabbath Day!

God Bless

SSpencer-

Thank you very much for your blessings and kind words.

God bless you and your family.

Amen David!!!

God bless

Key word here is to "Watch." V33, v35, v37. Many things will come to pass. We are to be diligent and study, make disciples, pray, and worship. Know that the coming of the Lord is nigh. Study and know the Lord according to Scripture. Jesus is teaching His disciples many things regarding His 2nd coming. This is not the rapture. Two different events.

v26

"And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory."

Study the whole counsel of God not just parts of His Word. If you do not believe in a "rapture" that's ok. If you are pre, mid, or post trib believer; that is ok too. Just rec' and trust the Lord Jesus as your Savior. You'll just be happy that The Lord God knows His Bible and is faithful to His promises. Know Jesus, know life everlasting. No Jesus, No life everlasting.

Watch and be prepared, expecting the Lord's return at any time.

Hey Wesley

The 1000 Year Kingdom will be on the earth, not in heaven, ( Revelation 11:15) It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod ( Revelation 5:10). We know from ( Revelation 20:7-10), nations after the 1000 years.

The thousand-year reign of Jesus, will be after the great tribulation of Satan, the beast and the false prophet. The second coming of Jesus with the army of angels, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13: 24-27) the first resurrected saints that meet Jesus in the air, ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) Jesus' feet land on Mount of Olives ( Zechariah 14:4)



The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the ten king's armies of the beast that came up on Jerusalem to battle are destroyed. ( Revelation 19:11-21) and Satan is chained and put in the bottomless pit.

Then the judgment seat of Christ for those that have been chosen to reign with Him in this Millennium Kingdom. ( Revelation 20: 4-6) People will live and die during this time. and when it is over, Satan will be released and bring an army for one last battle and fire comes down and Satan is cast in the lake of fire. ( Revelation 20:7-10)

White Throne Judgment of the rest of the dead. The goats and the sheep, "some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt", "they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And then ( Revelation 21) The marriage and the marriage supper. Jesus said at the last supper ( Matthew 26:29) ( Mark 14:25) ( Luke 22:18) when it is new.

The purpose of the thousand-year reign is to put this world in order and allow for the fulfillment of several promises God made with Israel, David and others.

This is a brief view of what I see from my study, I am sure some, maybe you, will disagree and that's ok, may it cause study.

RLW

Hey Edward

You may be thinking of when Jesus was warning his disciples of what they personally would have to face. What the Pharisees and Sadducees would do to them because of their rejection of their Messiah.

Matthew 10:21-22 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mark 13:11-13 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. 12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

In many places, it is close to that today. Love is diminishing daily.

RLW

Brother Paul, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth PASS...till ALL BE FULFILLED.

Before Christ's death and resurrection, Christ DID NOT dwell or live in man; but in (old) heaven and (old) earth, the OLD DWELLING PLACE of GOD, temples made by man's hands.

After Christ's death and resurrection; the old heaven and old earth PASSED AWAY, and ALL THINGS were made NEW. A New Heaven and A New Earth. Christ now dwells in us.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth (CHRIST IN YOU): for the first heaven and the first earth WERE PASSED AWAY (already completed).

This fulfils the words he spoke in Matthew 5:18, Mark 13:31, Matthew 24:35, Luke 21:33, etc.

The law and prophets were fulfilled at Christ's death and resurrection; therefore all the laws and ordinances of the Old Testament are NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

Heaven and earth HAVE PASSED; the law and prophets NAVE BEEN FULFILLED.

Richard Estrada

The interpretation of the 7 years, last week placed at the end times was what I was discussing. Where after the first 3.5 years of peace the antichrist does the abomination of desolation and causes sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and the great tribulation starts, taken from ( Daniel 9:27). Also used is, ( Matthew 24:15) and ( Mark 13:14) which combines (2 Thessalonian 2:4) as being in the middle of this 7-year interpretation using these Bible verses, which I feel is deceptive. That is what I meant, the abomination of desolation in this theory does not have anything to do with Revelation.

Babylon/Babel will be destroyed by the ten kingdoms/countries that hate the whore, who have never had power until the beast from the bottomless pit, gives them power as kings one hour with this beast. We do see in Rev. 11 the beast kills the two witnesses and that city is where our Lord was crucified and we know where that was. ( Revelation 11:8)

The destruction of this whore Babylon/Babel where ever it will be, will be destroyed close to the second coming of Jesus Christ. After it is destroyed it becomes the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird (fallen angels, and demon haven) "What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?" at this time their time is up and into the lake they go. ( Revelation 19:11-21) "the supper of the great God"

If you believe in the rapture of the Church and this seven-year interpretation and all that is taught in it we may not agree. We need just to encourage each other in our faith in Jesus and our walk in the Spirit of truth.

RLW

Richard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS knowledge.

HEAVEN

Flesh sees everything as natural. Heaven to natural eyes is out there somewhere. In Revelation where new Jerusalem is described; flesh sees this as a literal city with literal mansions and literal streets and literal trees and literal rivers. Bodies that have been glorified don't need houses or streets or walls or gates. We are the houses (mansions) of God, we are the streets of gold, we are the foundations of the city, we are NEW JERUSALEM. Revelation describes the foundation as twelve precious and costly stones. We are those (living) ( 1 Peter 2:4) stones that make up the city of new Jerusalem. We are the gates made of one pearl ( Psalms 23:9). Revelation represents something that is not LITERAL (which shall disappears)

Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, SIGNIFIETH the REMOVING of those things that are shaken, as of things that are MADE, that those things WHICH CANNOT BE SHAKEN REMAIN.

This is why you don't see prophecies of heaven; WE ARE HEAVEN, WHERE GOD DWELLS.

Luke 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven (you) shall be SHAKEN.

Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the WICKED might be SHAKEN out of it?

Mark 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

We are the stars of heaven (God's promise to Abraham that his seed would be as the stars of heaven)

The powers (of Satan that rules by natural flesh) in heaven (US) shall be SHAKEN (flesh will be destroyed and replaced by Spirit)

Revelation is all about the removing of the LITERAL and replacing with the SPIRIT.

A new heaven a new earth.

Part 1 continued:

( Ezekiel 21:12) Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people,...smite therefore upon thy thigh. "smite therefore upon thy thigh" is reference to Jacob wrestling an angel for the birthright he obtained from a hungry Esau, for a bowl of lentil soup. Wrestling the angel permanently injured Jacob's thigh ( Genesis 32:24-25). Seen as our "Jacob's time of trouble"; the great tribulation.

God made both Gog and Esau "small" and "despised "( Obadiah 1:2) Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

( Daniel 11:23) And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

( Matthew 24:21-22) For then shall be great tribulation....

( 2 Thessalonians 2:3) The falling away is the abomination of desolation.

( Mark 13:14) ( Matthew 24:15)

( 2 Peter 3:10) (Mathew 3:11)

( Amos 5:18) ( Amos 5:20)

( Daniel 11:31)

( Revelation 17:16-17)

( Daniel 9:27)

( Jeremiah 51:53)

( Revelation 18) vs 20 ...for in one hour is she made desolate.

( Revelation 18:9-10) ...for in one hour is thy judgment come. ( Ezekiel 18:26)

( Daniel 12:6-7)

Israel (house) is notably attacked [from the south to the north]:

( Ezekiel 21:2-4) And say to the land of Israel (northern kingdom),...therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh [from the south to the north].

( Ezekiel 20:46-47) ....Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree:...and all faces [from the south to the north] shall be burned therein.

( Isaiah 21:1) ....As whirlwinds in [the south pass through]; so it cometh from the desert, from a terrible land (Gog's land)

( Job 37:9)

( Isaiah 24) "Day of the Lord" aftermath.

( Revelation 9:18) By these three was the third part of men killed...

Hi Juan, it is resolved that the Word is Jesus in this passage- one has to twist things significantly to get it to mean anything else, as already demonstrated. Open dialog is good, but we should pray for wisdom first before reading the Bible and ask God for understanding. We must seek Him. If someone attempts to undermine Jesus' divinity, that should always be a red flag. Such things don't come from God. We must keep our armor of God on and keep watch. The Bible predicts there will be deceivers, 1 John 2:22, Mark 13:22, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, Matthew 24:24. It sounds unbelievable, but some Christians I've heard even elevate themselves on the same level as Jesus Christ, which fits what these verses say will happen near the end times.

God bless...

Hi SACHA,

You asked in your post for someone to explain Mark 13:32 and genesis 22,

Here is Mark 13:32. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. There is nothing to explain there! Jesus says the son don't know and I believe him, And I agree with you Genesis 22 is a foreshadowing of God sacrificing the Lord, you asked how can Jesus be the sacrifice and the sacrificer, no point in explaining that either. The difference between me and you is you need an explanation to believe, I believe without the explanation, I also believe when the Lord says I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. I believe that because he said it. I also believe Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9, and many other verses that proves his deity,

As equal important I believe Genesis 1:1. and I believe And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. I believe it because he's GOD! Jesus said he was not of this world, the scripture says Jesus came out of the bosom of the father and he go back to the father, Sacha The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. God is the creator who speaks things to exist out of thin air!! There is NOTHING he cant do! Do you believe that? If you do then your problem is not believing Mark 13:32, Your problem is accepting Mark 13:32. If God wanted to manifest himself into 10 beings at one time, disperse them all over the world with the father being the living Devine headquarters from whence they came, limiting them, and bring them back to there former Glory, Can he do it? NOTE: I'm not asking you did he do it! I'M ASKING YOU CAN HE DO IT? Yes he can. When it come to Jesus being The Almighty, Everlasting father, the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending. "GOD" manifesting himself in the flesh, The scripture says that's who he is and that's what he did. And I believe it.

From the beginning ....we have always been progressing toward the End Times... today it seems like it may be right around the corner. So many signs...

I do not love any country, nor do I want to be a part of this evil world.

God's plan is playing out for us right before our eyes....let those that have eyes see, and those that have ears hear.

Mark 13:28

"Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:"

God will protect all of his children. Stay close to God and Jesus Christ.

God Bless

Mark 13 is the events that will take place at the end times and 2 Thessalonians 2, Matthew 24, Luke 21. Also when you read of the appearance of the false messiah standing up in Jerusalem claiming he is God return and has supernatural powers and the world chases after him you might want to read Revelation 12:7,8,9,10 and catch that Satan is kicked to earth to deceive the world. On the first seal in Revelation check crown and bow you'll see they are fake and the bow is toxin, poison so if you hear the Lord is here or we heard the Lord is there don't go because at the 7th Trump when Our Christ returns it will be with fire and hail stones and for those who followed antichrist and didn't read the truth and listen to men they will get what they have coming to them. Revelation tells us that the time was cut to 5 months for the elect sake so when they are delivered up listen to them because it's God speaking through the elect. Store food, pay bills for about 3 months when you see the events of the 6th trump.

...but with the mark of the beast one will not be able to buy or sell at all, anywhere.

In addition to this, the word pharmacy comes from the Greek word pharmakeus, which comes from pharmakon meaning 'magician' or 'sorcerer' in Strong's concordance.

Revelation 9:20-21 (KJV)

[20] And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

[21] Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries (Strong's Greek 5333 - pharmakn), nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

I have also seen comments online regarding the connection between 'tikto' and 'TikTok' (an evil platform), which as far as I am aware was heavily promoted alongside the rise of this virus, along with the connection 'TikTok' has with time. 'TikTok' (which I am assuming is from 'tick tock') means that the clock is ticking, and I believe can also be used to mean that time is running out.

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance for Tikto:

'bear, be born, bring forth

A strengthened form of a primary teko tek'-o (which is used only as alternate in certain tenses); to produce (from seed, as a mother, a plant, the earth, etc.), literally or figuratively -- bear, be born, bring forth, be delivered, be in travail.'

The last definition what Jesus said when speaking about the beginning of the end time events in Matthew 24:1-8 and Mark 13:1-8 being the 'beginning of sorrows'. In the interlinear Bible, the word 'dinn' is used and is translated as 'birth pangs'.

Matthew 24:1-8 (KJV)

This first scripture clearly warns that Satan will have power to deceive human beings with false signs, even tales of alien creatures, spaceships, mermaids, monsters, vampires, you name it. Cable and streaming tv are full of it.

Guard your mind, heart and eyes. Christians should not view slop on Saturday and sing in Church on Sunday. Don't let your kids watch it.

There is an alternative to watching Netflix. It's called PUREFLIX. I highly recommend it. It's not corny or lame. It's entertaining and doesn't pollute your soul. There's movies for the guys too! You can view the Free Trial for 10 days.

In Deuteronomy 28: God says, Choose Life, so that you and your children may live.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 - [Even him], whose coming is after the working of SATAN with all power and signs and LYING wonders,

Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very ELECT (us).

2 Timothy 3:1-5 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (Read More...)

Acts 2:22 - Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Revelation 16:14 - For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Mark 13:22 - For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect. (YOU)

John 4:48 - Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

Good question? Whose signs and wonders are we watching?

Mishael

What is purgatory referring to

Benjamin,

2 Thessalonians 2:3 says "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Paul presents some things that must happen before Christ comes back and brings judgment. First of all, there come a falling away. The Greek word for falling away is APOSTASIA. It's the word apostasy. So first there must come an apostasy. Apostasy means that people will leave the truth of the gospel, leave the faith in Christ, and it will be a godless world more and more. So first an apostasy against God and the gospel.

Paul wrote to Timothy in 1 Timothy 4:1 and he said now the Spirit speaks expressly that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of demons. We have that in our day.

Notice the order of things:

It will be the experience first and then scrambling to find the doctrine to back it up. When Satan presents the things of God, he gives an experience first, and then a twisting of the scriptures to back it up.

Some of us may have been in assemblies where things seemed a little strange. And it's the seducing of that atmosphere, the seducing of that experience that draws people to supposedly be following Christ, but it's a seducing spirit and doctrines of demons. These are demon-backed doctrines!

So there must be an apostasy first. That's happening in our day. It happened back in Paul's day and they thought that it would really be a serious time. It was for them, but it's gotten much worse today!

Secondly, and that man of sin be revealed, who is called the son of perdition;

The word perdition means destruction. It's a title. There's only one other person in the bible called that, and that's Judas Iscariot in John Chapter 17.

So first there must be an apostasy. Secondly, the man of sin needs to be revealed. He can't just show up. It's going to take some circumstances that are going to reveal him.

where are we in ref.to 2 thes.2, the man of perdition?

Ello Bom Dia!

Amen brother, you are right on, for 30 years I believed in a pre trib. rapture because that's what the preacher told me and since my eyes have been opened it could not be clearer that the rapture will be a post trib. rapture, ( Matt. 24:29, Mark 13:24 and Mark 5 thru 23 says you ,ye,& your, over and over(describing what "WE" will be going through, and he is talking to who, Christians, he's not talking to the world, he is talking to his disciples, referencing them , Christians as a whole, and yes, its hard to get past a belief that you was taught especially when you believe the person teaching you is a true man of God so I had to come to this conclusion, if God says it, IT'S TRUE period, I don't care if everybody on the planet disagrees with me, have a great day brother!

Matthew Chapter 24 and Mark 13, explains this very well.

Matthew 24:1-51 and Mark 13:4-37

Matthew 24:38-41 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Mark 13:6 "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

Every person should read Ezekiel 13 because God says that those preachers who out of their own mind with their Devine thinking of made up stuff by themselves and not Gods Devine plan are going to get it, the boot! and telling people they are going to fly away is very dangerous so just so you know rapture people God hates those who teach His people to fly to save their souls and at the 6th trump when a false messiah stands in Jerusalem with supernatural powers as antichrist claiming he is God returned and the world will follow him and he just might say follow me and we will all fly away it ain't gonna be where you think. Now those who know Revelation 12:8 Satan booted out to deceive the world in a deception and Mark 13, Matthew 24 and 2 Thessalonians 2 take heed and don't be deceived. Also the 7 years was cut down to five months for the elect sake anyway 5 months Revelation 9:10 so Satan will be here 2 an a half so store food for 3 months and don't buy or sell and Listen To Those who are Delivered up its God Speaking. Wait for the 7th Trump that's when Christ returns, fire and hail stones and He ain't going to fly anyone out because He sets His Kingdom up Here!

maybe this is the passage that should have been quoted, I hope this helps clears up the conversation,

Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

Mark 13

This is Jesus answer to the end times and how it works out .

Notice verse 23 " But take heed : behold I have foretold you ALL things .

Where is the rapture in this ?

It is not mentioned as I understand this chapter . Surely Jesus told us all things . I hold to Jesus and his prophecy as being true .