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Hi Anthony You are going to get a few takes on this, one of them praying in the spirit, for the spirit to

come in which is not possible because we already have it. 2 Be too be praying to God quietly about his word

mind with understanding. Third which is what I understand scripturally is speaking in tongues which is

your own private prayer life with God. Now many believe this doesn't exist anymore, or went out with

apostolic age. Also they've seen examples like I have that are so out of order who would want to do that.

Correctly understood all things of God are decent and in order, this manifestation of Gods gift is primarily for

your private prayer life been doing this for 42 years.

I manifested power from on High shortly after confessing Romans 10: 9+10, now like everything

else biblically you have to make up your mind to believe or not. There's got to be something to it because the

Apostle paul said to the church at Corinth that he thanked God he spoke in tongues more than ye all

and keep in mind he was given how the church was suppose to operate. There are 12 benefits to SI.T. biblically.

Hi Curray John 3:16-19 Pretty much sums it up, they who love the deeds of this world, love mammon or the world

above believing in Jesus Christ Gods only begotten Son Romans 10:9+10 and choosing to change their works.

Almost everyone has a choice to choose. Gods the giver but the receiving has got His conditions not ours

attached to it.

Hi Earl,

Did you post this in attempt to counter a post I made a few hours ago?

Is it possible that you are confusing God's unconditional love for us with conditional salvation?

The verses you shared are great, but don't support an unconditional salvation.

Salvation has always been conditional, because it requires action on our part. This was the key point of nearly all the parables Jesus spoke. How to be saved. Being saved means to be saved from something that would otherwise happen. Do nothing = not saved. Follow Jesus = saved. Following Jesus means reading the Word and following the teachings, such as...

Romans 10:9 says "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

It says "If..." you do these things "...thou shalt be saved."

That is a condition. If it was not a condition, then the word "if" would not have been used. If what you're saying is true that this is not a condition then would have said to do nothing or whatever you want, because you're saved regardless. But it doesn't say that. It says the opposite of that. The Bible has many conditions. It's easy to understand what a condition is by the format: If... [you do something] then [this is the result]. In programming, an If... then... statement is called a conditional statement. That's the literal definition of

If I remember right, Earl, do you not believe in hell? If my memory is correct on that, then what is the purpose of salvation? What would you be saved FROM? The whole purpose of salvation is to be saved from hell. Even a secular dictionary gives the definition of salvation as "preservation from destruction or failure."

I'm not sure if anything I wrote will influence your opinion whatsoever, but at least I will have tried. God bless.

I believe Judas will go to hell, because he betrayed Jesus to help murder him for profit. This is like blasphemy and turning his back on Jesus. Peter denied Jesus, which might also be a form of blasphemy, however, I believe Jesus forgave him through a special circumstance- asking if he loved Him three times.

People are deceived if they believe everyone goes to heaven regardless of how much sick and vile evil they commit against God, like Hitler mass murdering people. Jesus already said most people will go to hell. Just read the gospels and his many parables. They are all similar themes- warning after warning.

Jesus died for everyone, but forgiveness is contingent upon someone humbling themselves, repenting, confessing, believing, declaring Jesus is Lord and accepting the gift. Acts 2:38 - this requires an action. It doesn't say 'Do nothing and ye shall receive the gift' or 'Keep sinning as much as you want...' Here's another action requirement: repentance: Luke 5:32. Here's another confessing: 1 John 1:9.

Romans 10:9 - notice the "If..." People don't say "if" unless it's conditional. Salvation is conditional.

This says to believe: 1 John 5:13. It doesn't say 'not believing is totally fine.' Romans 12:2 - this says to be transformed and to not conform to the world. That's a big bummer for those hoping for a free get out of hell free card to enjoy a lifetime of sin and guilty pleasures. Look at this: John 8:11 and even this: James 2:26. Another: James 4:6. Reading the Bible for what it is paints a very different picture than the little summaries people like to spread around. People who ignore all the Bible's teachings and do whatever they want should be afraid for their soul: Luke 12:5. God bless.

Gigi Graciously if I may God is the giver who gave what he is spirit, it was given day of pentecost,when Jesus Christ

completed His mission and sat down at the right Hand throne of God. The Gift of Holy Spirit is in the Epistles known

as Christ in us the hope of Glory, it is a spiritual new man created in righteousness and Holiness, it is our God given

power to use the name of Jesus Christ to kick the enemies butt. We are to walk in the Faith of the new man which is

by making Gods word our Will in the renewed mind, of Course after Romans 10:9+10 from the mouth and in the heart.

My understanding God Bless

Another area in the word that most christians don't understand is renewed mind, because until a christian by

his will changes His mind to line up his thoughts on the word of God he will never walk by the spirit and manifest what

God has made available. As far as my understanding the renewed mind is the key to walking by the spirit because your

body is controlled by the mind and the mind has to be made captive.

2 Corinthians 10:4+5 this is Gods will and our job to do we bring every thought, that is why there are a lot of

scripture dealing with[ heart mind thought] we bring every thought captive to the obedience of the christ in us which is lifetime of work. Most christians do not believe this is required, there comfort zone is Romans 10:9+10 but again a lot have not been taught or don't believe it.

Good Morning Barbara Due to Adams disobedience to Gods only command in Genesis 3 Eden, he handed over all the

authority was given by God to serpent [it wasn't a literal snake figure of speech for his satans sly deception] that's why

in luke 4:6 the devil tells Jesus all the power and authority was handed to him that was done by Adam. In Romans

8:20-22 that was and is the effect all of creation suffers animals included satan put all of creation in a power struggle or

his confusion. The opposite side when we believe in Romans 10:9+10 all that authority that adam lost we are given back

to us in Ephesians 1:17-21 we again have that power and authority when we claim the name above all names

Jesus Christ. Thank God for what he did for us by Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Godf Bless.

Hi Victoria All or most of us on this site at one time did this to get started in out walk of faith and believing

Romans 10: 9+10 It says if thou shalt confess with thy mouth[your part] the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine

Heart [inner most part of your being] that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved[ sozo=to make or

keep sound or safe] Gods Job. Then change your life to what the word of God says to do, and trust me God will do the

rest His Job. Only a suggestion find a fellowship of believers or church and I like to start in the church Epistles

addressed to the body of Christ in our day and time then the Gospels then old testament. That being said its all Gods

promises to us who believe. God Bless

Hi Jean It is available for all believers to manifest or display power from on high Speaking in tongues, Jesus Christ spoke about this when addressing the samaritan woman when in John 4:23 +24 he said But the hour cometh and now is when the true worshipers shall worship the father in spirit and in truth for the father seeketh such to worship him. God is Spirit

and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth or truly by the spirit. That was the first display of

Gods spirit working on the day of pentecost birthday of the age of Grace. Some say special gift some say doesn't exist anymore some say not needed. 1 Corinthians 12 : Paul went from gift to in verse 7 to manifestation of the gift, it is a great benefit to the believer spiritually it is personal prayer between you and father not to be done out loud or out

of order because all things of God are done decent and in order This is not to say that believers who don't speak in tongues don't believe or love God, that is biblically not sound. My bible says confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe in your heart and act on Gods Word. My understanding

Bro Dan Something to think about when we get born again we repent is the word metanoia[which means to have a change of mind or different mind set then remission of sins is aphesis[ the sending away like its gone and forgotten].

In Acts 2:38 the word says repent get a different mind set then get born again and receive remission of sins

forgiven and forgotten by believing Romans 10:9+10. Now the work in this is to continue in the good works of walking in faith not that were saved by works two totally different things. Now when we sin not on purpose that is where we confess

the sin we currently have done 1 John 6-10 and were back in harmony the state of being in fellowship but at no time were we not his son. Notice where we can be tricked if we lie and say we don't sin dishonest in our walk.

This is where the enemy tricks many christians out of there spiritual walk and inheritance.

There is a major different biblically between repent remission and forgiveness first one our job second one Gods job third one out job and Gods already done Job in Christ jesus.

Now this is the age of Grace not saying a believer has a license to do whatever he wants that is a total abuse of our freedom in christ his desire should be to do what God wants, unfortunately like you shared there are people

that think it is ok to do whatever they want no its not, but that is the trick of the enemy the believer will loose His love joy peace of mind and go back to carnal ways but His spirit is perfect two totally different things. God Bless Just sharing Bro.

Abraham The revealed word and will of God concerning creation and mans and from Genesis 3:15 to revelation 22:21 the bringing to pass of his only begotten Son our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is the only book with all truth on mans redemption and what man needs to be complete body soul and spirit to Walk with God. Luke 4:4 man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

It is the only book that gives the truth about heaven, the world to come and the spiritual battle that is Going on between God and the devil or Satan. It is the only book that gives the truth on the supernatural the spiritual

operation of God and satan. It is the only book that when you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart Romans 10:9+10 that you receive the spirit of God and get Born again. It Is Perfect and no other book in the world can make that claim, it is written by men that were told what to write by the Spirit of God 2 peter 1:20+21. It is perfect scientifically

laws of physics mathematically all of creation is answered and penned by Gods Hand. If you choose to believe you can't really live without it!

Dean The real question here sir is do you believe what you believe, the adversaries game is to get us to doubt, if you

confessed Romans 10: 9+10 with your mouth and believed what you confessed with your heart which is the seat of your

personal life and committed to doing your best to walk on Gods word trust me you weren't missed by God. It's not a head

trip and don't be a sign seeker, unbelievers look for that,show me a sign and I'll believe in God wrong. You Will Know

because God doesn't miss.

There are times dean when I question what I'm being told and miss the blessing,example this morning went outside I live in florida in condo next to beach, I love taking pictures of wildlife. I was walking on the third floor and saw

8 herons standing side by side on the shore that's unique Father said take a picture now, instead I called my wife to come out and see this, she came out I went to first floor to get a closer shot they were gone. Between when I first saw them and second time was maybe 1.5 minutes. I missed it, I missed the blessing. Don't beat yourself pray for Fathers help in the name of Jesus Christ He Will. He's more willing to give then we are to receive.

Hi Victor I'm sharing not to persuade you just to show scripture, backsliding is a turning away from. Now God always

keeps His Promises and His word is true When we are[ born again spiritually] confess Romans 10:9+10 we are freely given holy spirit and all sin old

nature acts or actions are paid for in full. Committed renewed mind believers sin or break fellowship but not on purpose

we confess the broken fellowship and get back on track 1 John 1:8+9 The believers who for awhile stand then get caught up in the things of the world again and will eventually go back to their old man nature a dog wallowing in its own vomit

2 Peter 2:20-22 ways of the world. The guy who tricks people into that is satan by deception. We will all that are born again be rewarded for the time we stood on the word and all the other works will be burned up 1 Corinthians 3:12-15. That's what Jesus Christ paid for in this age of Grace of the Church, its like being given a full box of mechanics tools, some will put the gift to full use others will commit for a while others will commit a lifetime, God new that and still kept His promise. In the eyes of God we are saints his children period. P.S. I don't listen to her because there's a lot of stuff not kosher. God Bless

Hi James That is a loaded answer and I'm sure there will lots of feed back,this was prophecy of what was Going to be done to out Saviour before the crucifixion. His visage the way he appeared after they beat Jesus literally almost to death was so bad you did not want to look at Him!

That's why pilate after they beat him and before the crucifixion said behold your king, because he was pulverised. Can you imagine Pilate when Jesus said to Pilate John 19:11 you not have this power unless it was given thee from above, and he was standing next to a bloody mess! Everything he went through was done to deliver us from the power of the adversary, we are healed 1 Peter 2:23+24 after the fact by His stripes we have been healed.

By His shed blood all our sins broken fellowship is forgiven when we Repent and Confess Romans 10:9+10 and begin to walk by faith in him. Believe it or not He literally died not from the wounds but of a broken heart in John 19:34 when they pierced His side water and blood came out. The movie passion of the Christ is a good portrayal of what they did and what he looked like, I believe it was worse than even that and yet this man never sinned!

We will never fully comprehend or appreciate what he went through and I can't think about it too long without going to tears, a totally innocent man did this for us who do not deserve any of what we have been delivered from

for all eternity. AMEN!

Good Morning Laverne When we confess Romans 10:9+10 we are born again of Gods Spirit and at that time we become spiritually His child and we have the Peace of God John 14:27 which passes all understanding.

If we don't endeavor to build Gods Word and walk by the spirit the cares of this world will effect our peace, and let the peace of God rule this means[to be president or dominate all decisions] to which ye are called and be thankful[ in everything]. The more we renew our minds to scripture the more we let Gods Word dominate our thoughts we will develop the fruits of the spirit, love joy [peace] longsuffering meekness temperance against such is no law. This is not automatic its happens over time. Prayerfully this helps.

Hi Gigi Ephesians 4:4 There is one body one spirit, one hope one baptism one faith and one God this is in the Age of grace that we are living in. I myself am not against water baptism but in our Age Romans 10:9+10 is whats written to be

believed and get the job done internally. But if someone feels they gotta do both o.k.

Gigi I was water baptised at 13 years old, I was born again at 21 years old, my simple question is this why would I have to to something external when I'm already spiritual clean internally. I am not opposed to water baptism but spiritually the individual won't be changed until they confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe and walk. When the apostle Paul was born again and went to Jerusalem this is what they fought over old testament law whether circumcision or water baptism or what you ate or who you ate with all legalistic practices. If I go to a church and the place looks all nice with nice flowers but no rightly divided word of God, so what. If I go to a house fellowship and someones teaching Hot Bible and your spiritually energized I know where I'm going. Also Im a great believer in judge not for thou shalt be judged, I lived next door to a witch and a warlock supposedly only God knows there hearts, had the privilege of sharing some bible, when they moved they were blessed to have us as neighbors because we didn't judge them. We don't know if down the road they will remember and run into another believer walking in love and then they change.

Hi Hafford Please show me in the Book of Romans Chapter 10 where to be born again water is mentioned, now the reason why many are born again and not water baptised is because they read this first and got delivered. I also know people who were water baptised taught that this was all you need and didn't get delivered , and I know people who did both and got delivered. All I know is when I confessed Romans 10:9+19 and believed I was born again. I'm aware of alk other scripture references.

Rick, good post. I do not think that many people realize the important, powerful, effective work of the Word spoken for someone to hear it. In Romans 10:17 Paul says that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. This does not exclude "hearing" the Word of God by reading, but I think there is something spiritually effective about hearing the Scriptures spoken. I don't mean this in any superstitious way, but to encourage believers to practice reading the Word out loud to one another, one reads out loud, the other listens only, then they switch roles. This is easy to practice using Psalms where one person reads one line, pause, and the other person reads the next. They trade roles back and forth until the whole psalm is completed. Do this in a quiet, peaceful environment is helpful.

Hi Jennifer Gods knows your need better than anyone else, also he knows your heart, these are for the mind to heal, He sent His Word and healed them. Romans 5:1+2 Peace with God, greatest cargoes of life come in over quiet seas.

Romans 8:28-39 more than a conqueror and nothing [think about that] can separate us from the Love of God which was in Christ Jesus our lord. You and God are not at odds anymore he is your Father and fathers meet the need of all His Children.

1 John 3:1+2 Beloved now are we the Sons of God, also 3:20-22 he's there to answer prayer and needs during confusion quilt, condemnation, because he knows we will deal with this stuff.

2 Timothy 1:7 Anything opposite of these three is not of God.



Change your mind change your heart

Put on in the mind Colossians 3:15-17 also Colossians 1:11-14 and Ephesians 3:14-20 notice how many times Christ is mentioned. We were saved by confessing Romans 10:9+10 and at that time we received the spiritual power that raised Him from the dead that why Paul wrote Christ in us the hope of Glory

Ephesians 4:23-32 Putting on the new man in the mind that's why I said change your mind change your heart. Proverbs as a man thinketh in His heart so is he.

Philippians 4:6-9 Be careful for nothing means anxious in verse 6, now verse 13 notice through Christ again that's the power that works in us.

Colossians 1:11-13 we are strengthen with might and we have been made partakers of the saints in light its incredible.

We have been made more that conquerors through Him that loved and loves us and those scripture are part of that. There are over 400 promises in Gods word to us who believe we can only do whar we know and act on.

Prayerfully this helps.

Bro Dan Your second statement is absolutely non biblical and unscriptural, Gods Gift is given by confessing Romans 10:9+10 and grace free gift by believing its not let me give them something and see what they do. That is taking scripture and saying this is what I think God was thinking or doing. Gods motivation was pure love not a game to see what they would do, they being us were lost. Salvation is not based on works of the flesh, hence Gift. Believe what you please I'll stick with Ir Is Written! Let God be True In All His Works And Ways.

Hi Delores Keeping it simple if genuinely born again i.e. saved meaning confessed[ Romans 10:9+10 and believed i your heart] we will see you upstairs so to speak.

Hello Laura First you must be born again,[confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe it in your heart] also the information will never contradict Gods Word, it will always be a profit to you and Glorify Him. In James 3:17 The wisdom that is from above is first pure then peaceable gentle and easy to be intreated full of mercy and good fruits without partiality and without hypocrisy. God works with you individually, you can just know what to do a gut feeling, always a still small voice, and stay peaceful and focused.It will always be decent and in order no confusion, any confusion wrong source. Many times early in my walk I would ask myself where did that thought come from but then I carried it out and I was blessed. Also something to keep in mind theres a lot of horse sense to walking with God Think Phillipians 4:6-8 As much of Gods Word you know the better and remember Phillipians 2:13 For it is God who works in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure. He knows us better than we do our hard part is believing that. Last thing do whats written because if you don't do what you can see how can you believe what you can't see. Remember the bible is God Talking also only in print.

Prayerfully this helps God Bless

Hello and God Bless Nic God cannot protect people from sin, sin is the state we were born in Ephesians 2:1 or driven by the desires of flesh five senses. Now when you are born again confessing Romans 10:9+10 and believe and walk out on the faith given the faith of jesus Christ Gods viewpoint of you is sinless, all sin past present and future paid for and forgiven. The challenge for the Christian is now to learn to listen to the new man created in righteous by God which is the spirit inside and act or to do everything same as you did before you were born again i.e. old man nature which by nature was against God. Also a really big deal is not to beat yourself up when you sin, not saying don't tell yourself its ok, in contrast know or understand what was done wrong thank god for forgiveness and move on. Don't think that all believers aren't in the same boat so to speak that we don't all act in our old man nature unwillfully that's part of the renewed mind battle. Notice I said battle because the battlefield is the mind, Godly thoughts and actions or your going south. Prayerfully this helps.

Hi Nic Brother there is a major difference between what you think in your head and believe with your heart, example there's times when someone can make you angry and you want to kick there butt but you don't carry that out. It was just a thought with no action, but a thought of the heart innermost part of being which is the seat of your personnel life is a whole different issue, confessing Romans 10:9+10 and believing that in the heart innermost part of your being and taking action on those scripture. Action on scripture gets results, mental accent says ill do it someday or may way but never acts on Gods Word.

Do you believe you don't need to follow Jesus to be saved?

A Christian is literally a Christ follower, so if someone prays and accepts Jesus into 'his heart' as a teen then spends a lifetime of sin and blapheming God is he 'saved' to you?

What I meant previously by calling the name of the Lord is this verse: Matthew 7:21 - some will beg 'Lord Lord' and assume they were a Christ follower when in fact they weren't. Most people will go to hell. Jesus warns us of that repeatedly through parables and says to fear God. Paul says to run the race that he would 'win' the prize. Thse things they preached involve a life of action and effort- to transform into 'slaves of righteousnes', not someone kicking back smoking weed on the couch and enjoying being 'saved'. So, whenever I hear someone saying good works are bad, I know it doesn't come from God.

Romans 10:13 presumes you're choosing to follow Christ in calling on the name of the Lord. It doesn't mean Hitler can mass murder millions and curse God's name, but a take 5 second break and just say the name of the Lord and be saved. It presumes someone is genuinely pursuing Jesus Christ which is what the definition of a Christian is. God knows our hearts and whether we are genuine or not. Satan loves deceiving people into believing they can sin all they want with no consequence, but that's far from what Jesus says in the Bible. God bless.

I hope these are helpful Philippians 1:6, 2 Corinthians 5:17-18, Romans 10:17, 1 John 1:9,

Hi Jonas In Gods word there are a few translations of the word know or to know according to context, one is the word oida which would be i know mentally that there is this being called God I've been told about Him. The other is ginosko experienced by some one born again of Gods Spirit. Example of first I know Romans 10: 9+10 but haven't done it, the other Ephesians 1 :18 The eye of your understanding being being enlightened that ye may know [I.E. experienced understanding God works in your life and you manifest that] what is the hope of his calling and what the riches of his inheritance in the saints.

Also with The WORD of GOD ALMIGHTY, HIS promises, faith: Romans 10:17, Psalm 19:14, Matthew 18:20, James 5:14-16, Psalm 1:1-3,

Matthew 17:15-21

And Phillip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Mark 8:37

But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Matthew 13:16

Then Peter said into them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:38

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 6:38

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matthew 3:17

And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

Genesis 17:11

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing the word of God.

Romans 10:17

In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Colossians 2:11-12

Know ye not, that so many of us were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Romans 6:3

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in the likeness of his resurrection:

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Romans 6:4-8

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