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My wife and son has been under other people control. Over the 6 years; they have been mislead. Of various things.

Read to the end; there is forgiveness.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

Romans 12:1 Therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, I urge you to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God; this is your spiritual worship.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?

Leviticus 19:28You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord.

1 Kings 18:28 And they cried aloud and cut themselves after their custom with swords and lances, until the blood gushed out upon them.

1 Corinthians 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

Deuteronomy 12:4 "Do not worship the LORD your God in the way these pagan peoples worship their gods."

Leviticus 20:23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them.

Proverbs 16:2All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weigheth the spirits.

1 Corinthians 10:31 So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.

1 Timothy 2:9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with MODESTY and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array [minidresses, stretchy pants, thick makeup]

You don't have to get them laser'd off. Just pray and admit you just didn't know. Repent: turn around and walk in His forgiveness and be restored.

Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, Philippians 2, Romans 14:12, 2Peter 2, 2Timothy 2, whole chapters relevant

Also note 2Timothy 2:19, sealed, but commanded depart from iniquity

Hebrews 3:6-19,

John 13:34, Romans 12:10,

Hopefully these are helpful

* Proverbs 3:3-4: Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart. Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man.

* Romans 12:10: Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves.

* Genesis 2:18-25

* Isaiah 54:5: For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

* Proverbs 30:18-19: There are three things that amaze me-no, four things that I don't understand: how an eagle glides through the sky, how a snake slithers on a rock, how a ship navigates the ocean, how a man loves a woman.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go; And wherever you lodge, I will lodge; Your people shall be my people, And your God, my God. Where you die, I will die, And there will I be buried. The Lord do so to me, and more also, If anything but death parts you and me.

* 1 John 4:12: No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

* Hebrews 10:24-25: And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another-and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

* 1 Peter 4:8: Most important of all, continue to show deep love for each other, for love covers a multitude of sins.

* Ecclesiastes 4:12: Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

* Ephesians 5:33: However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

* Proverbs 10:12: Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go (read more)

Mishael

Dear Donya: The passage in Ephesians 4 is one passage; 1 Corinthians 12 and Romans 12:6 are others. Laying on of hands is indicated in 1 and 2 Timothy as well.

When we see the fruits of the Spirit in Galatians 5:22 we find something which should characterize believers in our new nature. To grow to maturity; we need to have this going on along with the supernatural manifestations with our character development as well. The fact that the greatest of all things is love sort of sums everything up. Also; the fact that edification of the Body is a primary purpose for gifts ( Eph 4:11-12); as well as putting the fear of God in people ( 2 Cor. 14:22) doesn't eliminate the fact that it is better to have a clear message; as well as the fact that all our works are meaningless; even martyrdom without love. Tongues are one of those tricky issues; I am not a cessationist myself; but also realize that almonst nowhere I've been has there been interpretations of tongues; and certainly not consistently. Such a gift I believe in prayer is for self-edification; and in corporate worship for the sake of others in the Body. Discernment is surely underrated and sorely needed today; but many who are immature or tares ignore the sober warnings of those who can perceive intrusions of the enemy in the midst of the assembly. Building up one another in our society of "rugged individualism" doesn't seem to have much importance; hence we have a prosperity gospel which is shallow in doctrine; and manifestations which often are clearly demonic with rolling on the floor; and other uncontrolled behaviours. Keeping in mind John 16:8 as to the affects of a TRUE influx of the Spirit of God is a sobering reminder we need to heed to. As to Prophetic words; a warning of a famine or death such as in Paul's case isn't exactly a "politically correct" utterance; nonetheless true Prophets aren't out to tickle men's ears. And the giver of the gifts must always take prescidence over the gifts.

Dear Mike, no, you can't change the world as Christ did, but you never know whose life your walk with Christ will change. The Bible teaches us to be Christlike. He suffered more than you will ever suffer. Matthew 16:24 "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

God is still on the throne, nothing gets by Him, He knows your situation. Psalm 46:1 Our Father may put on us more than we can bear, but not more than He can carry for us. God will never put more on you than you and Him can carry, together. "God is our refuge and strength; a very present help in trouble."

The Apostle Paul suffered from a condition the Bible doesn't reveal.

Romans 12:7-10

7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.

9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

God bless you, Mike!

Brother Daniel:

I praise God for your response. Grace and peace unto you from our God, the Father in Heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Time is short. We can see 2 Timothy 3 today.

As you know Timothy 4.

I think it is important to do the following:

1. Pray (for others, each other, lost people to be saved, Believers for their holiness until Jesus comes, and ALL Leaders in-charged to do the right thing)

2. Study the Bible ( 2 Timothy 2:15)

Finally sharing our experience helps everyone to see that Jesus Christ is alive and waiting for the fullness of the Gentiles for the glory of God.

Romans 11:25

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Ephesians 4:13

Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

I read most comments on this site and we need to be in one mind:

1 Corinthians 14:33

For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

doeth.

Romans 12:16

Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

1 Peter 3:8

Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

Philippians 2:2

Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

Romans 15:6

That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 13:11

Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

Thank you for the opportunity to read your comments. Rejoice evermore!

Teresa, I see value in both ways of dealing with the painful aspects of life; first (and most importantly) bringing them before the Lord in prayer & leaving it with Him to help you through them, and secondly, to seek a sympathetic ear & wise counsel from a trusted caring person. The New Testament Church was always encouraged to look out for each other & to attend to each one's needs ( Galatians 6:2; Hebrews 13:16; Romans 12:13; James 2:15,16; 1 John 3:16,17). God has given us a wonderful access, through His Spirit, right into His Throne room, but He has also provided 'family' used by Him to bring comfort & hope as well.

Sometimes, when we are over-burdened with problems, all that we have to share with another are only our problems & very little else. So your friend might be feeling that all she hears from you are your issues only & sees you in great anxiety or overly depressed because of them. And this might in turn depress her, hence her reaction. In many cases, the person with a huge problem isn't able to think clearly through it (its cause, ways to deal with it, support from others, etc.). That's where 'a friend' needs to be able to really listen & help you work through it & always be there for you. Often, your pastor or Christian counsellor can listen attentively & give good advice & also follow-up. The main thing, is for you to re-gain your peace in heart & mind from the Lord, hang onto Him in both your good & bad times, read His Word, & not give up. He has blessed each one of us with life, life to be lived for Him. So the Author of Life will certainly be with those whose trust rests only in Him. "Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning" ( Psalm 30:5). May the Lord guide you very specially in your concerns & help you live above them, looking for His Arm to work mightily on your behalf.

I believe so, Rodney. If you go to the tab, 'Christian Life' (under the main Tab, Discussion), you will find a recent post from the KJBO Admin of how to access the Strong's Numbers & Concordance search.

Comment:

Jesus is alive and soon to come again, yet, there is a slight delay: He longs to see more repentance in the lives of His people: II Chron 7:14

Question:

Does kingjamesbibleonline.org have a prompt that will display a word meaning from the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance?

Giving thanks always to God and the Father through his precious son Jesus Christ!

Thank you, R

Ministry of Reconciliation

part 3.

Ephesians 4:1-3 reminds us to walk in a worthy manner.

The missing element in so many of our human transactions is humility. God is always pleased by humility and always insulted by pride. Jesus, a humble servant, had every reason to be driven by pride, yet He laid His life down for us. Think of the way you forgive others and see if you would like God to forgive you in like fashion. Discard all cheap excuses and do not be shallow in the way you forgive others. Seek out others and ask for forgiveness. Romans 12:18 provides crucial insight into this topic as it tells us that as much as it depends upon us, we are to live peaceably with others. God doesn't judge us on how this ends up, but He is looking for our obedience in this area.

Steps needed for true forgiveness can be outlined in the following manner:

Glorify God. He is always glorified by sincere humility.

Get the log out of your own eye.

Gently restore, remembering your former state.

Go and be reconciled. Do not wait for others to come to you, but err always on the side of humility.

We are a people of fractured relationships. We have broken friendships and severed relationships with loved ones. We may have a long list of reasons for this, but the Bible has never accepted the concept of irreconcilable differences. God took the most irreconcilable problem of all time, our human sin, and fixed it. If He can solve this problem, He can solve any of your relationship problems.

see part 4.

Your answer is correct and true Chris but you may have missed my question how do you explain how to be Holy to a child knowing that you are Holy through Christ because of their Salvation when it says in 1 Peter 1: 16 and Romans 12:11 that we (are to be Holy)!

This is a very interesting point, DJ.

I think primary, our first concerns should be fore the household of faith, and of course, our own families. We are told if we do not provide for our own, we are worse than infidels!

There are some other times to give too, for Scripture tells us so. Romans 12:

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Having said that, what concerns me today is that many Christians go without, while 'the church' has become the 'welfare provider' for the world! I have done some studying and reading on the roots of the 'social gospel'; there are plenty of good articles about it, and I leave you to study all the good available articles and videos online. This is another gospel, and something that we should be aware of. We are not called to 'make this world a better place'; we are to honor and glorify Christ and preach His gospel.

Blessings!

Then why does the Bible saw?

1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, [which is] your reasonable service.

Prophets, Prophetic, gifts of Prophecy in New Testament

Romans 12:6,

2Peter 1:16-21,

1Timothy 4:14,

Revelation 1:3,

Gifting working within the Body: 1Corinthians 12, 1Corinthians 13, direction concerning in Church: 1Corinthians 14:29-40,

Prophets yet to come: Revelation 11:3-19, false prophet yet to come: Revelation 16:12-15, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:10,

Revelation 19:10,

Revelation 22,

John the Baptist referred to as Prophet: Luke 1:76, Luke 3:4, Matthew 13:57, Mark 6:4, Luke 4:24, Luke 7:26,28, Luke 20:3-20, John 1:19-37,

Acts 3:22-26, Acts 7:35-60, Titus 1:12,

Matthew 10:41,

Jesus talking about Prophets in HIS day, referred to himself also: Matthew 21:26, Matthew 11:9, Mark 11:32, John 4:4,

Luke 13:33, Luke 24,

Paul & others acknowledged prophecy, Prophets, even Women that did Prophecy: Acts 21:8-14,

Hope these are helpful

Dear Jimmy Wayne,

You are not alone. I have felt this way for some time. I think it may be that as we age in Christ we our life is more and more aligned with God's will and His will is contrary to the will of those who age in the world. As we age in Christ we more and more have the mind of Christ and so we hate what is wrong more and more and love what is right more and more. Also, we have more power to refuse to participate in sin, so we have better discernment of people and circumstances, perceiving the sinful and evil that I should avoid, therefore, avoiding even the appearance of evil. Jesus instructed us to let our light shine before men, that they may see the good that you do and give glory to God.

See

Romans 12:9; 16:19 1 Corinthians 13:6; 14:20 1 Thessalonians 5:22 2Timothy 2:22

Hebrews 5:14 1 Peter 1:14 3 John 1:11 Matthew 5:16

1Sa 31:12 All the valiant men arose, and went all night, and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Bethshan, and came to Jabesh, and burnt them there.

It is not sinful to cremate your body and is the cheapest way of burial. Once we are done with these body's we are done never to return to them; so whatever form you wish to discard your fleshy body has no bearing on your heavenly one. Our flesh ages and gets sick but our spiritual last forever and is perfect able to run and leap like a deer and last forever.

2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Amos 2:1

Does the Bible mention cremation?

Hello Okou, as you will likely get different answers on this subject, I will share my interpretation of the Bible.

Despite what others say, I don't believe anyone gets "saved" while on earth. I don't see that anywhere in the Bible and it seems to be a man-constructed belief. What I see in the Bible is that because of Jesus's sacrifice we have hope of salvation. What I see in the Bible is that our judgment is what will determine our salvation and not everyone will receive salvation. The Bible says we will all be judged on the same day. It says many will go to hell, and few to heaven. What I see in the Bible is that the outcome is contingent upon our choices and behavior. This reality should be absolutely terrifying to some people. Maybe that's what it will take for some people to start taking God seriously and start obeying and fearing Him. Matthew 10:28. Others who are being running the race and fighting the fight can take comfort and have assurance of future salvation. Currently, we have a lot of self-proclaimed Christians goofing off and enjoying having their cake and eating it too, by unconsciously following the world's values, not God, despite Romans 12:2. Matthew 7:21-23 already predicted how this will turn our for them.

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." Notice it doesn't say 'now' or while on 'earth'. It says salvation will be revealed in the last time. I interpret this as the end of time, at judgment day.

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

Lots of conditional statements throughout the Bible, depending on our behavior and choices. Notice the word "If" a lot...

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve". Notice this is a daily choice.

I am so sorry. I should have proofread my post more carefully before hitting the submit button. The next part of the verse says "Mind not high things," not "Do not mind not high things" which makes a big difference!

Minor correction:

Instead of "Your attitude and my identification is with those who are lowly, that have nothing," I meant to say our attitude and our identification is with those who are lowly, that have nothing."

Vincent,

Romans 12:16 says, "Be of the same mind." The word used in the Greek text tells us that it is talking about the frame of mind, as in be of the same frame of mind. It does not mean to think the same thoughts. It means to be like-minded, to have the same frame of mind and attitude about life and the scriptures. Paul said that Timothy was like-minded. His approach and attitude to life was the same as Paul.

We are to be of the same frame of mind towards one another. Then it says, "Do not mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate." It literally means join yourself with the humble and the poor, not with the rich and the influential, which is what we have a tendency to do, especially in the church.

So identify yourself with other believers, have the same frame of mind and attitude. Remember what James said in James Chapter 2, "realizing that God has chosen the poor in this world to be rich in faith."

So if you want to hang around a rich guy that's poor in faith just because he's rich, he says here that it shouldn't be your frame of mind. Your attitude and my identification is with those who are lowly, that have nothing. Then it says be not wise in your own conceits. And the word wise in the Greek text also has to do with the frame of mind.

I hope this helps you!

meaning of Romans 12;16

Romans 1:18-32, Jeremiah 19:5, Romans 11:33-34, Romans 8:7, please read all of Romans 8,

Ephesians 4:14-32, 1Corinthians 2, Psalms 139, Colossians 3:12-17, Isaiah 26:3, Philippians 2:3,

2Timothy 1:7,

* Romans 12:1-2, Romans 12, Psalms 1:1

Hopefully these are helpful

Psalm 34:5-8

They looked unto him, and were lightened: and their faces were not ashamed. This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles. The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them. O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

Psalm 23:5-6

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

Mark 10:18

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Nahum 1:17

The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.

James 1:17

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Jeremiah 29:11

For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 Timothy 4:4-5

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, IF it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Romans 12:2

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind (Bible), that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Note these verses on the back page of your Bible. For days that go wrong and make us doubt.

Mishael

Matthew 7:12 - Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Romans 12:10 - Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

Exodus 20:12 - Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Philippians 2:3 - Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

1 Peter 2:17 - Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king/president

Titus 2:7 - In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,

Romans 12:9-11 - Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Acts 10:34-35 - Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

1 Thessalonians 5:12-13 - And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;

Romans 2:7-16 - To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Romans 13:1-7 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be, are ordained of God.

Hebrews 13:7 - Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow,

Colossians 3:25 - But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

Romans 2:11

For there is no respect of persons with God.

2 Chronicles 6:19 (a prayer)

Have respect therefore to the prayer of thy servant, and to his supplication, O LORD my God, to hearken unto the cry and the prayer which thy servant prayeth before thee:

Use the Search Engine box on the entrance link page. You will be wise.

Mishael

Tribulation definition online: "a cause of great trouble or suffering"

Deuteronomy 4:29,30,31, 1Samuel 26:24, Matthew 13:20-21, John 16:33, Acts 14:22, Romans 5:3, Romans 8:35-39, Romans 12:12, 2Corinthians 1:3-5, 1Thessalonians 3:4, 2Thessalonians 1:6, Revelation 1:9, Revelation 2:9,10,22,

There seems to be a difference between tribulation & The great Tribulation,

Matthew 24:21, Romans 2, Revelation 7:14,

Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:4-37,

I wouldn't push the Trinity, because that word itself isn't in the Bible.

Scripture for Jesus being one with the Father, & sitting at the right hand of GOD.;

John 17, John 10, Hebrews 1, John 1, Hebrews 12, 1Peter 3:22, Acts 7:55,56, Romans 12:5, Romans 12, Ephesians 4:4,5,6, Ephesians 4, 1Corinthians 10:16,17, 1Corinthians 12:12,13, 1Corinthians 12, 1Timothy 2:5, 1Corinthians 11:3, John 3:15,16, John 16:23,

* John 14,

Hopefully these are helpful

I would prefer your prayers than your direction of my mind. That I try to leave to God. I had to read Romans 12:9-21 after your comments. Everyone knows you can pic a verse or a sentence out of the bible to "prove" your point. And just "mindful" questions for occupying time; I wouldn't expect an answer either. The bible does tell us that God told us everything we needed to know. And since you seem not to believe the bible, were God said he "Blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it"; Gen 2:3. Then I'm not sure what you do believe. and yes, those like myself who do believe God's word that it as the truth. Now, instead of question to direct my mind, it's very simple. Just tell me the book, chapter and verse where God changed his mind and took away the day he gave his children. I'm sure you must be right, when he said he NEVER changes, he really couldn't have meant that, as Christ couldn't have meant he wouldn't even change the punctuation in the commandments. God forgive both of us for our attitudes here. I've already ask him for forgiveness, as it's easy to trip over our long robes.