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Jesus, please give this person the wisdom, strength, and determination to stand in the battle raging inside and outside of her. Amen.

God will help you, dear, but your prayer for help is the kind you must put legs on. You, and only you, can stop drinking, smoking, and begin a new life for Christ.

I am praying for you. I have seen what alcohol can do to someone, my dad died from it. Seek Him first and He will save you. My heart goes out to you and if you would like to talk let me know. God bless.

Lord I know that I need to stop drinking alcohol and smoking...but god I need u to help me please god...and to stand firm against Pam and others who will try to deter me from doing the right thing.. god also help me to get back to where I was...lord I want to live holy before you and honor you....please help me, GOD.. why do I find myself unable to stand and keep falling again and again....

Greetings,

I'm not sure I really understand your opening statement...

"Jesus Christ is come in the flesh (Being witnessed by his own blood in the earth.) Therefore, IT IS SINFUL TO DIE A BODILY DEATH."

If "IT IS SINFUL TO DIE A BODILY DEATH," then according to that allegation, Jesus did something sinful, which contradicts, Hebrews 4:15, that Jesus never sinned even though He was tempted like we are.

"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." Heb 4:15.

Perhaps you could explain what you meant to clear things up. That would really help me.

Thank you.

Jesus Christ is come in the flesh (Being witnessed by his own blood in the earth.) Therefore, IT IS SINFUL TO DIE A BODILY DEATH. For this very thing, it is written in the Holy Scriptures, and taught, of God: I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, WHICH IS your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what IS that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. The last enemy THAT shall be destroyed IS death.

Romans 12:1+2 are good starts , also take a look at collosians 3:1-10 these verses pertain to believers in the church born again written to the church of God. Also look at 1John 1: 15-17 keep something in mind that word love is wanting something above God supplying your need, more in category of lust. The reason I mention this is our Father shall supply our need according to his Riches in Glory by CHrist Jesus, therefore genuine need is not sin as long as it does not go against His Word. Many men of God in the word had abundance given by God as long as they did HIs Word.

Chris: You are absolutely RIGHT! Romans 12:2 And be no conformed to this world. but be ye transformed by (through) the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. When reviewing the above scripture verse 22 of Luke 16 the angels carried him. I believe that GOD has angels to what he instructs. EZEKIEL 10:18-19. verse 23 of LUKE 16. " the rich man also died " I wonder if the the rich man blasphemed ( that is another scripture within the bible the WORD of GOD the GOD in the form of JESUS would send a person to hell for. Also within verse 24 we see , he cried and goes through family lineage he confesses and gives honor to GOD the Father and his torment continues. Also within that verse he reflect on the knowledge he learned and request for the person he disregard to give him water. The rich man recognizes where he will live for eternity. That provides the TRUTH of the LIVING WORD OF GOD that GOD ignited his cognitive remembrance so the rich man is tormented

You bring up a valid prespective. To the WORD of GOD. I believe that and after researching the WORD OF GOD. It provides specific instructions within the old testament of the proper way of disposing of dead people and their remains. I have to find it the scripture. Now it is 2021 the cremation would logically be safer. Because of the world and the nature of it. Also I think cremation also sends a bible prespective and sight to the Abraham and Lazarus. The cremation of 2021 is very different I believe from bible times. The TRUTH of current world.The cultivation of land is to be preserved. I think. Abraham stood his post within the scripture when speaking the word of GOD and the use of the word son and the reflection of his meanness and what he did to the Lazarus. Hell is real. Also Chris there is an art depiction of GOD and the TRUTH and HELL at 1stDIB it is from Italy,circa 1890 called Mannequin. We can see the scripture. 7:03 AM

Does it say what tribe of the bible pale people come from?

What happens in the story of God Calls Abraham in Genesis

"To think of oneself more highly" speaks of a person who believes he has the gifts & qualities that exceed those seen in others. Narcissism is an extreme form of self-aggrandizement or self-elevation & is diametrically opposed to what was in Jesus Christ & what the Holy Spirit produces in a child of God.

What does it mean to think high of oneself.?

Disappointment comes to all of us as we remain in hope that something we've planned for or what has been told us, fails to materialize. It is an unnerving experience that can render some people quite helpless, but God is there for times such as these.

Romans 12:2 says it this way: "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Even though we generally understand this verse warning the believer not to behave as the unsaved world does & adopt a new way of thinking, it also has implications to the believer not to conform to the world that sets its hope on the finite & material aspects of it, rather than putting faith in the God Who knows & does all things well.

The believer does at times suffer disappointments, but ought to immediately look heavenward & commit himself & those matters to the Lord Who will bring it to pass in His Time, & generally in a manner above what we could have expected or planned for.

Some other Scriptures to reflect upon: Philippians 4:6,7; Romans 8:28; Jeremiah 29:11; Psalm 73:23-26; Psalm 121:1-8; Psalm 42:11; Matthew 6:33; Proverbs 3:5,6; 1 Peter 5:6,7; John 14:27; Hebrews 13:5. And many more, to show us there is comfort & help as we wait upon the Lord with our concerns & disappointments in this life.

The matter of cremation or burial in the ground, remains the choice of the deceased (in His Will) or a loved one. I don't believe there is any particular instruction in what is the best or acceptable way of disposal of the deceased. In regard to Jewish practice, it has always been emtombment, as cremation (burning of the body) was done by the heathen. In 1 Samuel chapter 31, we read that at the death of Saul & his sons, the people of Jabeshgilead took their bodies & burned them. Or if punishment was given to those crimes that warranted it, then burning was required (e.g. Leviticus 20:14). Otherwise, the deceased always required their entombment.

For reasons of cost of burial or request or a person's preference, cremation may be undertaken. At the resurrection, the Lord is well able to re-constitute the remains, whether cremains, or from the sea, or scattered. But it's always my preference for a burial as an honourable & meaningful way of dealing with a loved one.

Tattoos: again we can appeal to the Old Testament. Leviticus 19:28 speaks of cutting of the flesh or printing marks on the body. Leviticus 21:5 gives a similar warning. These were given to Israel that they do not imitate the heathen in these practises, whether for the sake of idol worship or for the dead. As a holy people, Israel would do wickedly by this & punishment was certain. In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul reminds Christians, that our body is not ours to do what we like with, but belongs to God, being the Temple (the residence) of His Holy Spirit ( 1 Corinthians 6:19,20). So just as we need to take good care of both the outside & inside of our body, we must also take much care how we display ourselves before people. Does both our behaviour & appearance match that of godliness & in God's family? Romans 12:2 tells us not to conform ourselves to the world (i.e. if our minds are renewed so it will show in our outward display of Christ-likeness). Tattoos & fashion trends just don't cut it for me.

Matthew 6:9-13; Luke 11:1-4 (in part).

What chapter is the Lord's Prayer in

David, as a 14 year old, you're certainly dealing with a lot of internal strife & challenges, & this demonstrates quite an advanced mental & spiritual development in you.

Without knowing all your facts, what I do detect is that you have a strong Will & direction for your life, & when things are not going according to plan, you become troubled & amazed. Though you did state that you're finding out that God has been helping through your problems. However, I don't think you will ultimately be successful by doing things in your wisdom & strength.

For the Christian, it takes a lot of faith in God, to be able to step back & let God lead us, direct us & help us through our difficulties. The natural man says, "I can do it on my own", because that is something inbuilt in us to bring out the "self will & self confidence" we have to know everything & accomplish everything. But as you've found out, there's limitations to what you can do & that your efforts don't always turn out as you would like. It's true that God does expect us to use the wisdom & knowledge He gives us to deal with life's matters, but He also expects us that we know from where this knowledge comes from & to Whom we need to run to when our resources are exhausted. I sense, you are learning this important Truth.

Proverbs 14:12 says, "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." This tells us, at least in respect of the course & end of one's life, that man will always determine how his fate will end. But his 'wisdom' is actually folly because he simply cannot know from within himself something that only God knows & determines for man.

Rather, we must cast ourselves upon the Lord completely. Proverbs 3:5-7, "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil." As Christians, we must fully trust Him.

Honestly speaking, it doesn't matter how much evil is going on in this world, we just need to make sure we do not walk along with this evil and don't join in on it because it's easier to get judged by god if you're a Christian than if you're not. To all Christians, it is more dangerous to walk in evil than for non-Christians because they were taught so much about God and all the things he does to people who do evil. Christians get in more trouble cause they should know better cause they were taught about what to do and what not to do. A Christian doing evil is like lying to God with your actions.

I might be a 14 year old but that doesn't mean I don't know my information about the Bible. I admit that I have done a lot of wrong in my life but trust me, I am trying my hardest not to do wrong but I am struggling. The problem is that I believe to myself that my ways to accomplish things is easier cause I do not like working to accomplish something, but I learned that the hard way cause I have been dealing with challenges and none of my ways are working. I do not like dealing with these problems without my ways working but I don't know any other ways to fix them. All these problems are problems that I have been working hard on and I noticed that with all the problems I am working hard on, I am actually doing better with fixing these problems than when I used my ways, now that is just the power of God I know for a fact. He has been giving me ways to to fix problems and he has showed me that not all my problems can be fixed my way and he has showed me that in order to deal with these problems, I am going to have to work for my accomplishments.

If you read this, Thank You

Chanting is never heard of in the Bible. When the Jews sing, they usually use their song book, the Psalms, & also words from other Jewish sources. Christians sing from a hymn book, chorus book & such like, where hopefully, the words fully align with the Scriptures.

Being conversant with the chanting done by Hindus (similar to the Buddhists, I assume), it demonstrates generally a continual, monotonous set of words or rhythm for the primary purpose to elevate their mental (& spiritual) state to a 'higher level'. They can do it in Temple worship, worship at home, or in solitude (as the real version (not Western) that Yoga demands). It's this constant repetition & mental 'vibration' that incites a person to achieve a different state of mind & euphoria.

And for the Christian, this quest is totally against Scripture. We are never told to neutralize our minds & wills so as to attain a higher level of consciousness. However, we are told in 1 Peter 1:13, "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ". "Girding up" means that we have to maintain strict & constant control of our minds, what goes in & what comes out. We are never to disengage our minds & wills from our control - if we do, we might be subject to other spirits having access to us. But when we gird up our minds, we demonstrate our subjection to the Holy Spirit within us, declaring that we want to only hear His Voice, & only be led of Him.

Romans 12:2, "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Our minds have to constantly be guarded. In this verse, the example of the pull of the World to conform to their standards & their understanding of life's matters, remains ever before us. But we have to renew our minds (i.e. make an effort rather to conform to God's Standards for us).

We are in the world, but should not be of the world. Romans 12:2

Thank you for further information on your life & aspirations, Josef. A French University? I don't know the country you live in but French must be your mother tongue. Those are two great fields (Sound & Software Engineering), which would be useful in the Church or in Missions, especially in Bible Translation Work. But of course, you would still want to first be established in regular employment, developing that University knowledge into practical experience & a career. True, we can only please our God by all that we are, what we have & what we do. God requires of us no more than our full love & faithfulness to Him. He will do the rest.( Romans 12:1).

So you can still have a career & also give of your love & experience to the Lord's work that will build up His Church. Some of us here on this site, did just that: personally, I worked during the day (so I had money to live & give for the Lord's Work/Missions), & on some nights I dropped tracts (small Christian Gospel leaflets) walking around in my neighbourhood & on weekends, did street evangelism & sometimes shared in a Bible study. That way I kept myself busy doing what the Lord put onto my heart - and the wonderful thing was that while in prayer one morning (in 1987), the Lord specifically guided me to full time service (I mentioned to you about being in Pakistan). When we submit ourselves wholly to Him, He promises to be with us & lead us in HIS paths.

Doing a Bible course online or at a Bible College is very useful but care should be taken first. Ask yourself: is this something that the Lord would have me do at this time? What do I know about the College or course of studies: do research on their requirements & Statement of beliefs & practises (not all colleges hold to pure biblical teaching). Their costs? How long is the course? Is the certificate at the end of the course of any value? But never forget, personal Bible study is most useful. I hope some of this advice helps you further.

Kathy, the Proverbs are generally individual words of wisdom or proverbial truths, but sometimes we see some connections, as in Proverbs 16:2,3.

Verse 2: man's perception of himself & his actions will be deemed as correct & honourable but the Lord does not see as man does, for God weighs (or, takes into account, measures) the inner thoughts or motives of man.

In contrast we see in verse 3: when that man does not justify his actions by his own reckoning (v2) rather commits his works (his deeds, plans, designs) to the Lord, then even his thoughts (what man plans to do further as a result of first looking to the Lord) will be confirmed & established by the Lord.

The Truth here is that when the child of God first seeks the Lord, committing his actions to Him, then he can trust the Lord to bring it to pass even when he feels that he may be doing things from his own mind. The act of calling upon the Lord & trusting Him to work on one's behalf will mean that the Lord will also lead him throughout that endeavour.

Some associated Scriptures that give weight to this Truth are in: Psalm 37:4,5; Proverbs 3:5,6; Luke 12:30,31.

Scriptures regarding our thoughts: Romans 12:2; Philippians 4:8.

Scriptures for any who are tempted to get into the spirit of Halloween. Hint: it is not a Christian holiday.

From these scriptures it looks to me like it is an opening forspiritsto step into our world.

Romans 12:21

Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

1 John 4:4

Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Luke 11:22

But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

2 Peter 2:19

While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

I asked my kid what it was he liked most about Halloween: he said CANDY. We went to the store and he got 20.00 to get the good stuff. Nothing in a Halloween wrappers.

We had a pumpkin fight in the backyard. Slime seeds everywhere. Everyone liked that.

Then we watched Dennis the Menace and ate pizza till 8.

Don't confuse your kids that it's ok to have fun with the devil one day a year. People won't ring your doorbell if the light is off.

Sabina, the Spirit of truth be with you, Christ was betrayed and killed; yet none had apathy for him. Christ said, Father forgive them for they no what they do. The Spirit grace you with his love, forgive them and live under Christ authority; recompense is mine saith the Lord.

Hello, I believe the answer to your first question is 'yes.' Link - The answer to your second question is 'no' in my opinion. If you did nothing wrong and were betrayed, you don't need to apologize for your actions if you did nothing wrong. Forgiveness is different than apologizing for ones bad behavior. Forgiveness is mostly an action within your own heart- to release anger bitterness resentment vengeance and all the toxic feelings someone may carry when wronged. It does you no good and its against God's scripture. Forgiveness can be either in person or not. If the person may put you at physical risk of harm, then in person is not a healthy option. There are other ways to communicate if needed. You can also forgive without communicating. Many people find it helpful to write a letter expressing all your injustices toward the person then symbolically burning it and forgiving them and wiping it clean from your heart and thoughts. This process is in a way like Jesus dying for you and forgiving your sins. God bless!

Hi Chris,

Yes my comment was for you, specifically in the end of your comments where you say "And, we're not required to be 'sinless to enter Heaven': we are still saved & sanctified sinners who will be renewed in every way, outfitted for life in Eternity."

Repentance, salvation, and sanctification from sin through the blood of Jesus does not produce saved and sanctified sinners. Romans 12:1 refers to sanctification and says in part "ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God". Those guilty of committed sins are not the living sacrifice as sin makes one dead spiritually. A sinner is not holy nor acceptable.

Think all the way back to Genesis 2:17 where God warned Eve not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. In verse 4 of chapter 3 the serpent told Eve God was wrong and she'd not die. God was referring to the effects of son and that it does cause the soul to die. Satan as the serpent deceived Eve by turning God's words of warning to mean not dying physically.

Here is Titus 2:11, 12 "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;". The problem is you excuse sin, saying sin still is present in the saved, where God offers salvation from sin.

Matt. 1:21 Jesus was sent to save us from sin, not still in sin.

If you want true salvation, you will stop sinning after being saved. If you want a watered down false doctrine, feel free to think you are saved and sanctified yet still sin. But be warned, when you are at the Judgement before God, He will remind you a saint of God told you in this comment area that salvation requires you to stop the sin business. (See Matt. 25:31-46) If any stand before God with sin that is not repented of and are still committing sin, they cannot enter Heaven and will be separated from the sheep. And as a goat, be sent to Hell for eternal punishment.

There are four types of love (in Greek) given in the Bible which is more useful than the single word we have in English.

a. Agape: this is the highest form of love that one can give or receive; it implies an everlasting, sacrificial love. 1 John 3:16, 4:8, 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 are few examples.

b. Storge: the love that shows familial deep care & concern between members of a family. Obviously, agape can also be experienced in families, but storge is that general love that family care & devotion applies to. Storge is not a word seen in Scripture, though its opposite is seen, e.g. Romans 1:31 "astorgous" & 2 Timothy 3:3.

c. Phileo: the love, warmth & affinity shared by close friends. John 11:36, Romans 12:10.

d. Eros: a romantic, sexual love, made especially lovely within marriage. This word is not used in Scripture, though implied in the reading of Song of Solomon & warnings of unrestrained love (porneia) going beyond the bounds of morality.

Verse 11-We must have a constant flow of God's holy spirit in order to be aglow with the spirit and be enthusiastic.

FRIENDSHIP WITH THE WORLD AND EVANGELIZATION

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and not for any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). If it records in Rev. 12:9 that this whole world has been deceived, it did not speak of a particular country, group of people, person or religion, it meant the whole world.

Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God ( James 4:4).

The believers are not of this world. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith ( 1 John 5:4).

Additional readings as confirmation.

John 7:7; 8:23; 15:19; 17:9,14,16; 18:36.

Romans 12:2.

1 Cor. 2:12; 3:19. 2 Cor. 6:17.

Galatians 1:4.

Ephesians 2:2.

1 John 2:15; 4:5; 5:4.

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and the scriptural references we use serve as confirmation that it is not us that speak, but the Spirit of our Father that speaketh in us ( 2 Samuel 23:2; Matthew 10:20; Acts 4:8; 6:10).

The believers and followers of the true Christ do not involve themselves in the affairs of this world.

God cannot be received by this present world and so-called world evangelization (global unity) is a deception at the highest level and the workings of the spirit of this world ( John 1:5,10; 8:23; 14:17,22; 15:19,20; 17:9,14,16,25; 18:36; Rom. 8:7; 1Cor. 1:20; 2:4-8, 12-14; 1 Thess. 3:3; 2 Tim. 3:12; James 4:4; 1 John 2:15; 3:1; 5:4,19; 2 John 7).

It should be noted that in over 36 years of service we have never collected/received, solicited or requested donations. The gift of 'Life' was freely given and freely do we give to all those that believe ( 2 Kings 5:16; Matthew 6:26; 10:8).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

I ask for you to join with me in praying for my marriage. My wife has been in pursuit of another man for about a year and is going to pick up his daughter to get their nails done. She is trying to trick him into being with her claiming she is single. She has an online dating profile. I am praying for reconciliation, restoration, protection of our marriage, forgiveness and healing: Matthew 19:16, Hebrews 13:14, Colossians 3:13, Ephesians 4:31-32, Psalm 147:3, 1 Peter 3:8, Psalm 19:14, Psalm 18:30, Romans 12:10

The air in Nova Scotia must be thin enough to keep just enough oxygen flowing to ones brain ! Aye!. This web site moves quite well with the help of the holy spirit ! Thank you for your concern. Any direction the reader needs here can be explained through his own revelation and without those who wish only to babel! I have been on this site for some time and except that we may have differences in understanding, but there is a line one crosses when you proclaim we are all lost! If you have nothing more than this ,please take up your bed and leave.