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Jesse ,i think an Hart is a type of antelope .

Mishael ,my beloved grandad fought in ww2 ,he was a p.o.w. in a prisoner of war camp in burma for just over 3 years ,he was 6ft 2inches tall and weighed 120 pounds when he got back to england and he had been in india recovering and being looked after and fed up back to health by the extremely kind and generous people of india for 6 months ,when he was first liberated he weighed less than one hundred pounds at 6ft 2 inches ,he wouldnt talk about the prison camp but did talk about some of his exploits ,he killed many people ,using guns and in hand to hand combat with a knife ,many people belive ww2 was a just war and im not going to dispute that but wars are fought by people ,individuals who will suffer because of their actions ,my grandad was a lapsed catholic ,when his time came to die ,a natural death ,he was afraid ,afraid because he belived he was a murderer and would have to answer to God for his actions , he would not be convinced by any one that he was not responsible for his actions ,he belived killing any one under any circumstances was wrong and i agree with him ,he was sorry for what he had done ,wars are fought by people and people have to answer for their actions ,Micah ch4 v1-4. Isaiah ch65 v 17-25 .

Reading this is food to my mind

Verse 3 it says: Honour widows that are widows indeed.

Can you please explain "What is the meaning of Honour widows that are widows indeed?"

For those who think God is violent and mean, throughout the Old Testament: On 'Bible study tools dot com is an good read on this very subject.

Google this: Is God More Violent in the Old Testament Than the New?

Nope.

Malachi Chapter 3

4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.

5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

6 For I AM THE LORD, I CHANGE NOT; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

Comment: God corrects. He doesn't change His mind about purpose.

I worked in a Church too as a volunteer in Benevolence, Food Pantry, and Front Desk fill-in for others.

They bought a building that had been a gay spa. We worked hard to pray over it and turn it into a family church.

Yeah, I know how it goes...

I much prefer music ministry that's personal and of the Congregation. I can close my eyes and remember little Baptist country churches; everyone singing and sharing a hymnal. Fried chicken dinners out on the lawn afterwards. Nice memories indeed.

I always believed everything I did at Church was, "as unto the Lord". I've had a great, full life. It's sad to see how the government persecutes the American churches now. I pray it gets better.

I did not say what I did against neighborhood churches. Sometimes I wonder how Mega churches are able to manage one-on-one. I'm sure they do tho. We should rejoice even more, as we see the Day of the Lord approaching.

I kinda like getting up early so I can join the birds, praising God. I like to listen to them grumble because the Sun is too slow that day. :D

Then they break out in song as first light breaks out. I do my best praying then.

I meant no criticism. I just hope that when I get my transformed body in heaven; that I don't sound like a frog when I sing.

Love you, brother

I saved one of your posts on Salvation, for my very busy son. Thanks for your devotion.

I was a street minister many years. May the Lord bless you for loving an old man in need.

I used to take a backpack of homemade sandwiches, bags of chips. Or I bought coupon books from McDonalds or other restaurants near where the homeless gathered. Took many of them inside for a meal and some conversation.

I never hurt their feelings by scolding them for drinking. I just tried to get a meal in their stomach. Some Word in their mind before they sleep.

What you did was like-Christ. It was personal, one-to-one. No one ever hurt me, cussed me or walked away. I spent my own money for comic book tracts, because everyone likes those. (Chick Tracts).

You're very blessed my friend.

I've heard soldier testimonies in Church. No one had a dry eye through it. You do not know what you are saying.

I was very young when my parents bought our first tv (60's). We watched the evening news at the dinner table. The Viet Nam war was on it every evening. I saw the people protesting, throwing rocks, taking over college classrooms. I saw the wounded and the flag draped coffins of the dead soldiers. Men placed on litters, others in wheel chairs with no legs. Pain on their still young faces.

Their families were separated from the hate seething crowd of war protesters who screamed 'baby killers' at them' and threw flags at them. The children of the soldiers looked scared.

Seeing it every evening, marked me a Patriot, forever. I feel sorry for you. What you see on your tv is a LIE. National News is owned by antichrist people. Against Christ, against the Flag, against anyone who serves and protects this nation's freedoms.

Once in a while news people do a soldiers story when there aren't any riots, nothing is burning up and they need a soldier's story to pad the time slot.

Millions will be Left Behind after Jesus removes His Church from the Earth. TV will be managed totally by Antichrist. Everything is barcoded or marked now. People are next.

God knows what's in our hearts.

When you learn how to cry real tears for a soldier, or anyone who goes to work in a uniform; you'll understand...maybe? I'm of the last generation; the Terminal Generation.

When Israel reformed as a country in 1948, it activated a prophesy. This Generation will not pass away without witnessing the Return of Jesus Christ to Earth. His feet don't touch the soil, until the LAST battle. Try to find an Arthur E Bloomfield book on prophesy, if you can.

You have no comprehension how close Christians are; to being caught up in the clouds, to Jesus.

I'm not angry. Just sad about all the screaming people do. No happiness. Just a lot of hate.

Mishael

Good day my brothers and sisters in the Lord,

As I may have stated these things before I believe they are a way of pointing to the Divinity of Christ or His pre-existence. Being one with the Father.

Many places throughout the NT it is stated that when we are "born again" we receive the Holy Ghost from above. Which also in many places we have the Spirit of God in us and the Spirit of Christ in us. I hope no one would just want to pick one out of the three.

We are told the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth in several places. We know the Spirit of God is life. As in Genesis 2:7 God brought fourth life to the dust He formed us from by the breath of life. So there's two things that connect directly to John 14:6 Jesus Christ saying "I AM" these things.

We know Jesus Christ is the Mediator between God and man. I don't see any way of someone being this except He were both. God and man. We see even in the OT denoting our Creator having a Son. Before He was born of the flesh here. Proverbs 30:4.

We know about John 1 in that He is the Word of God who became flesh and dwelt among us. Also noted as the Lamb of God from John the baptist. Who also stated that one was coming after him who was before him. John was around six months older than Jesus Christ. This seems to point to pre-existence. Also as another stated to be a perfect sacrifice for the entire world I would think it would have to be more than just a "perfect human". Being the Lamb of God He is part of God.

Again I know some have a their own view of these things. Though to just use the Scripture and let the Holy Ghost be your teacher it is sure.

I want to end this with just saying how thankful I am that Lord has chosen me to have received His Holy Spirit. To live for Him. All the things He has allowed me to see, hear, feel. Priceless. There is nothing else that interests me anymore except to please our Father and thank Him continually for sending us His Son. To be reconciled with the Father through Him.

We shall see this God of creation for we humans comes forth; things in the beginning made; Jehovah, many knows/we will get to see him..read the KJV bible....except him/follow his words, were guilty get right, were not stay from found guilty/punished, fire, fire/brimstones awaits...Isa53:1kjv..

Hello, I'm not sure what your definition of wages is. My definition of wages is money. This money can be used to support someone, whether it being used for food, water, clothing, transportation, gift, or whatever.

Paul accepted money from churches as well as food, shelter, etc.

2 Corinthians 11:7-9

1 Corinthians 9:14 - it's ok to make a living preaching the gospel. It doesn't stay they must only get a stipend so they're below poverty, and doesn't say you might give millions and buy them jets and islands, either.

1 Timothy 5:17-18 - preaching and teaching is a job

Most churches have volunteers for part time commitments, but there are some key members that work full time and it's not right to demand full time labor from someone and not properly compensate them, unless they insist on working free. Basically you're taking their available time away which they would otherwise use to produce income and failing to give them any support in return. I believe that is wrong. No one has a right over someone else's labor- that is called slavery.

So, if a church has a full time worship director role then it's only fair that person is properly compensated above poverty level so that person can support themselves and a family. If the church can't afford it then they should consider reducing the responsibility greatly back down to what a volunteer could manage.

God bless...

Hi Amon.

What's the Question?

GB.

Ronnie.

Malachi 3:6 (KJV) For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Hi Bob.

I've heard good arguments for both,

Important thing is what his dying meant to us.

God bless

I'm talking about the physically manifested, end-time firsfruits of Jesus Christ. The Church. The Bride. The two witnesses are much more special than meets the eye. In fact you could devote a lifetime to Sunday school, and never uncover the clews of who they are. They are the elite set, one hundred forty four thousand gleaned from Israel, the remnant who after battling satan, are resurrected into Christ's army. Only these elect qualify ( Revelation 14:4) to be firstfruits for the thousand years.

However, due to above corresponding, and conflicting scriptures, any opinion falls inconclusive. The gut feeling says everyone else awaits second entry; all 108 billion souls that ever lived. What do we care, we'll be sleeping.

Did Jesus die on a stake or a cross

What does it mean to be the "only begotten Son "? If your reasoning is based on what he said, Can you define what does it mean to be the only begotten Son of God, And he's also considered the Son of David, and the Son of Man.

Being consistent in your reasoning and using the same logic give your take on these things.

As sons of our earthly father we know we were brought into this world by him and after him.

Jesus Christ is from everlasting to everlasting, Pre existence, The ending and the beginning, The Alpha and Omega, He was in the fathers bosom, He said ME and my Father are one, He said if you have seen the me, you have seen the father. He Said he's ""THE"" Almighty. Isaiah called him the Everlasting "FATHER".

Why don't you explain your case against the deity of Christ using the same Reasoning and logic.

OPEN UP AND TELL US WHAT ALL I MENTIONED WHICH IS IN SCRIPTURE MEANS TO YOU!!

WELCOMING A REPLY.

GOD BLESS.

My comment is that I am grateful for the Word which never changes, never sleeps, never fails to answer ...

Amen Brother Carlton.

Thanks and God bless.

If we spread the gospel, we should do it out of love! Not too prevail over others, if so be, we would not speak the truths of the Holy spirit.

Guided freely by the spirit of Christ, so no one would come behind or hindered. Leading as it were setting the pace for others!

Leaving all things, in order to gain that which comes from above! Not by our works, but by His grace! The grace found in the example of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

John 14:28

"Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."

Praise the Lord!

Hope that all my brothers and sisters are doing well on this Sabbath Day!

God Bless

Questions for quiz on 1st Timothy chapter 1and 2

Robert Lester Oberther ,there isnt any scripture to support wages ,in my Church a person might claim some expenses ,travel ,petrol etc and we would always offer free refreshment ,food and drink etc but no wages , if they needed equipment we might purchase it but not wages . The only time we might give wages is if the person was not a Christian member of our congregation and we were employing them ,if it was a Christian member of our congregation they would definately not ask for wages .

Carleton ,what a lovely post ,thankyou ,the way you express yourself ,in all your post ,should be an example to us all ,you always make your point perfectly clear without any note of aggresion at all , i can learn from you and so can all of us i think ,you never sound as if you are trying to belittle any one or provoke anger in any one ,its a gift and you have it ,please keep using it for all our sakes .

You dont need to say any more ,you said it perfectly ,there have always been people who think that the more words they use the more likely they are to be heard and believed ,Gods message is. simple ,it always has been ,humans like to complicate things for their own benefit ,either financialy or for their own egos ,stick with the Bible ,God meant His words to be understood by everone and the more you read them and pray to Him the stronger your faith in Him will be and you will be able to discern the Truth from the vain babblings of men . Your post was perfect ,mine is too long !

1st Peter ch5 v2 springs to mind immediately ,personally i dont belive any Christian should ever make money off their relationship with God ever . Not as a business ,there was a preacher in my town yesterday ,by himself in the rain ,we had a little chat and i discovered he goes around the area where i live preaching in the streets for free off his own bat , he was retired ,the rain started to get pretty heavy so i voluntarily gave him 20 bucks so he could go in a cafe and get something to eat and dry off ,he didnt ask me and was very reluctant ,im sure if it hadnt been raining hard he wouldnt have taken it , i belive that God sometimes works through us to help other people out but im not comfortable for His Praise and Preaching to be done for wages ,in my Church absolutely no one takes wages ever ,our collections go 1st for the upkeep of our building 2nd to registered charities and we as members can request a collection for some one or specific charity ,and 3rd into a welfare fund for our own members if they find themselves in dire straights ,every member is allowed to view our accounts any time they like . Money and Christianity ,again incongruous springs to mind .

I'm a Christian and I have been going through a lot of challenging situations, but last night in the dream I won first prize, a huge trophy....I know exactly what it means

#Thank you Jesus

I don't have an issue with Jesus being born as a Man & being called the Son of God. I think that Who He was prior to His birth is the issue. You say that Jesus' Spirit of God was with God/of God. So are you saying that God has two Holy Spirits? One from Jesus & one from God?

Whereas the Bible in John chapter 1 declares that it was His Word that He sent forth and this Word was clothed with flesh. God's Spirit was still in operation whilst Jesus walked on the Earth. One instance was when Jesus chastised the Pharisees who accused Him of using Beelzebub the prince of devils to cast out devils ( Matthew 12:24-32). Jesus told them this was blasphemy when one speaks against the Holy Ghost (i.e. the Spirit's working). So here we have the Son of God & the Spirit of God at work simultaneously.

And yes, Jesus never said that He was God, but said that He was the Son of God - for that was Who He was on the Earth. But before He was sent to the Earth by God, He was God's spoken Word. If you believe that sending out the Word to become a Man is unbelievable, then how about sending out His Spirit to indwell a man, indeed, innumerable men? Paul even said in 1 Corinthians 15:47, "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven." This second Man, the last Adam, is the Lord, the One sent by the Father from out of the Father.

And Mary was a holy person, but still a sinner. You can be holy too & still be a sinner, simply because you were born with Adam's sin nature. Jesus wasn't born in that manner - He didn't have a sin nature, though Satan greatly desired Him to have one. If Mary was a special creation, then maybe she may be in the same state as the Lord, but she was a fallen human as we are.

Corporate Praise and Worship. For some reason those words make me feel the same way that i feel when i see people in military uniforms full of medals sitting in a Church ,incongruous ! Thats the word i think im looking for .