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  • Lauren - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 5 years ago
    Mishael, can you recommend (of course apart from the Bible) any good scripturally based books on

    spiritual warfare? Or would you recommend getting well-versed in the Bible alone? Thank you . . .

    I was saved out of Buddhism, the occult and New Age practices. I need to be fully armored in the Word

    of God. God is preparing me to battle, I'm very aware.
  • Lauren - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 5 years ago
    Thank you Mishael

    II Cor:3-6 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Kings 10:10 - 5 years ago
    Jack, I see that the figures I posted didn't come through correctly. Please disregard those figures. The 120 talents of gold would have weighed in at 9000 pounds, which equates to 264 million dollars at today's value. Sorry about the mixed up figures in the previous comment.
  • Eric Lopez on Ezra 9 - 5 years ago
    Does Ezra say what exactly Jerusalem was sinning against? Per comments, there were inner marriage relationships among different nations? And per commentary something about them not making burnt offerings correctly?

    Is this correct?
  • Jesse - In Reply on Nehemiah 8 - 5 years ago
    Anthony,

    You are correct. 1 Timothy 2:11-15 gives us instruction concerning function in the church, how God has designed it to be. Verse 11 says "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection."



    That is the number one command. What is the woman's role in the church? Learn, in all submission, or subjection.

    In Verse 12 Paul says But I suffer not, that is I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man.

    We're talking about doctrinal issues in the church. A woman is not to teach, nor to take the authenticity of man, don't take over for him, but to be in silence. That's just what he said. They are to learn in silence. The reason is found in Verse 13.

    The church is to function in the order God has designed.

    Now to the church in Corinth, Paul wrote this: But I would have you to know that the head of every man is Christ. And the head of the woman is the man. And the head of Christ is God.



    There is a type of chain of command that God has established way back in Genesis Chapter 3. And that command is followed in the church.



    It's not talking about women not having the same ability, or being better than a man or a man being better than a woman. It has nothing to do with that.



    We're talking about responsibility of function. God has chosen the man to pray, and to teach. And He's chosen the woman to be the man's helpmate and to represent the church.

    This is God's proper order for the church. Putting the woman in a position of authority over the man in the church would be out of proper order, and would go against how God intended the church to function.

    We're talking about responsibility, not one person is better than the other. And God says that if the man functions this way, and the woman functions this way, the church will be fine, and the home will be fine!
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Kings 10:10 - 5 years ago
    Hi Jack. A talent of gold in the Old Testament days was approximately 75 pounds in weight. At today's gold price of USD 1830 per pound, a talent of gold today would cost USD 137,250. Multiplying this amount by 120 (talents) would be nearly 16.5 million dollars. At 9000 lbs of gold from the Queen of Sheba, plus the precious stones & spices which she gave, this was certainly a very large gift given to Solomon.
  • Anthony Park on Nehemiah 8 - 5 years ago
    05/07/2021

    According to 1Corinthians 14: 34 , 1 Timothy 2: 11-14 women are not to teach Bible to men. However, I see

    many churches women are teaching Bible today. Is this correct?
  • Rod - In Reply on Nehemiah 8 - 5 years ago
    Hi Cam, If I may add unto some of the scripture S Spencer has already provided. The key to our faith and understanding is to read the KJV bible on a daily basis and a lot of our questions will be answered.

    Mark Chapter 10:14-15, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

    Acts 1:7-11, And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Timothy 2 - 5 years ago
    Hi Tamara.

    Part 1.

    Lets look at some history of the Jews to get an understanding what was the purpose for the tongues where it's first mentioned in Act ch 2.

    The Lord says in the Gospels he come for the lost sheep of Israel.

    Israel was dispersed all over the then known world after the Babylonia captivity and until that day many remained away from Jerusalem and had NO KING TO SIT ON DAVID'S THRONE. "THEY WERE SCATTERED" NO SHEPPARD.

    AND PICKED UP OTHER LANGUAGES.

    So you see why the Lord said he come for the lost sheep of Israel.

    Around 600 years goes by.

    ""Plenty time to loose your way"" and some keys in the difficult Hebrew language.

    Now we come to the cross and the mission of the Holyspirit.

    The Lord sent his disciples to Jerusalem to do the work of the Father but wait to be empowered by the Holyspirit, and the spirit was poured out on everyone to RECEIVE/HEAR THE GOSPEL IN THERE OWN LANGUAGE.

    ( Acts 1:4. And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

    ( Luke 24:49. And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

    Acts 2:4-8. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with OTHER TONGUES, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN.

    Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that EVERY MAN HEARD THEM SPEAK IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE-

    ( You noticed they weren't unknown tongues? )

    -And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

    AND HOW HEAR WE EVERY MAN IN OUR OWN TONGUE, WHEREIN WE WERE BORN?

    It seems here they were given the power to to "hear and understand" other languages.

    The other gifts of the spirit was given as well.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Timothy 2 - 5 years ago
    Hi Tamara.

    Part 2.

    1 Corinthians 12:4-18. Now there are DIVERSITIES OF GIFTS, BUT THE SAME SPIRIT.

    And there are DIFFERENCES OF ADMINISTRATIONS, BUT THE SAME LORD.

    And there are DIVERSITIES OF OPERATIONS, BUT IT IS THE SAME GOD WHICH WORKETH ALL IN ALL.

    But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

    "FOR TO ONE" is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; TO ANOTHER the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

    TO ANOTHER faith by the same Spirit; TO ANOTHER the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

    TO ANOTHER the working of miracles; TO ANOTHER prophecy; TO ANOTHER discerning of spirits; TO ANOTHER divers kinds of tongues; TO ANOTHER the interpretation of tongues:

    But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, DIVIDING TO EVERY MAN SEVERALLY AS HE WILL-

    ( You noticed these gifts is given and divided as HE/GOD gives. "Not all have the same gifts"

    ( continuing)

    -For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

    For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    For the body is not one member, but many.

    If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

    ALL DIDN'T SPEAK IN TONGUES, AND ALL DIDN'T WORK MIRACLES.

    -And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

    If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?

    But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

    " I believe the gift of tongues used in that way has ceased "

    1 Corinthians 13:8. Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

    Read 1Cor. Ch12 and Ch 13.

    God bles
  • Mishael on 39Hell39 - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 5 years ago
    Considering how people speak to each other these days, I find this discussion on the word 'hello' a bit tedious.

    Give NO PLACE to the devil.

    In Texas we say Hi, Hey, Howdy, Hola, Nice to see you, Long time no see, Dude, Dudette, and numerous others.

    I was saved out of the Occult. Satan loves for people to give him any kind of credence or glory. Isaiah 14:11 says that Satan is wormy. I saw a vision of hell. You don't want to see that! It's the definition of Terror; it is eternity of Waiting for the final Judgment and being cast into HELL.

    Keep your eyes on Jesus and don't give "place" to Satan. If you think Halloween is a national holiday, you are deceived. If you have that stuff stored in your garage.. it's an open door for demons to make themselves at home.

    If you're a Christian and you don't read your Bible; don't have a working knowledge of scripture, or are unable to memorize any scripture: demons can just walk into your house and torment you at your weakest points of entry.

    Furnish YOU (your house) with deep layers of scripture. Ephesians 6. That's your SWORD!!

    It's 2 edged. It cuts up the devils going in and coming out. It dispatches them to outer darkness IF you speak it? Believe me, "go on and quit picking on me", isn't going to get the demons out of your life.

    Tearing apart a word like hello is not useful. Try ripping the head off a demon with a well placed "IT IS WRITTEN" (add a scripture).

    They should run for the hills every time the feet of a child of God hits the floor each morning.

    We have Jesus's AUTHORITY and Power to make them leave. Learn spiritual warfare. Parents Protect your kids.

    That dusty Bible is the Sword of the Spirit. It's more lethal than any weapon available. To you gamers...spiritual warfare is the Real game of Thrones. Don't be deceived.

    Has anyone ever done a Word study on the names of satan? Liar, Deceiver, Murderer, Adversary, Accuser, Serpent. Wicked One, Tempter, Afflictor
  • Jonathan McPherson on John 3:13 - 5 years ago
    Text: Matthew 24:1-14.

    Theme: Christ's prophecy what is to come in the future.

    Intro: Christ prophesied Matthew 24 when He was departing from the temple: the disciples

    followed Him and asked Him a question that triggered the disciples' hearts, Jesus tells them that

    Jerusalem including the temple shall be destroyed. False religion, false doctrine and false gospel

    shall abound. False Christ including false prophets shall appear and seduce many, Nations and

    kingdom shall rise up against each other, nation betray nation and kingdom betray kingdom.

    Pestilence, natural disasters shall occur, believers shall be myrted, mankind betray one another,

    and the hearts of many shall wax cold toward God, parents and friends. The good news is, Christ

    comforts His disciple Matt 24:6b.
  • Robert on Proverbs 7 - 5 years ago
    How can I pray in the Spirit when I've grieved and quenched the Holy Spirit ? A friend of mine gave me Godly advice to pray in the Spirit to get back in a right relationship with God. But I'm having a difficult time doing that because of sin in my life

    Which I have repented of.
  • Adam - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 5 years ago
    I agree that the words we choose have ramifications and have meaning.

    However, I disagree that hell has anything to do with someone greeting another. I think this only gives credit and a sense of power to satan. Just because a word in a language has a few shared characters of a word that is negative, that doesn't mean any of the negativity rubs off on the other word. Otherwise, if your mom's name was Hellen or Helena, for example, would you disown or say bad things about her? I don't think that's loving one bit. There's names in the Bible that have those characters, but it doesn't mean anything bad about the person, like Ezra 10:35 has one: Chelluh.

    A word being 'bad' also has much to do with the context and intent behind it. For example "Jesus" can be used as an uplifting name to be praised, or used as a curse word. Jesus said the word hell several times, are you suggesting that Jesus was wrong to say that word? He used it positively so that people can avoid hell. Matthew 10:28

    You used the word hell too in your comment, so do you feel remorse from this? I see zero spiritual connection and disagree. Satan should not be given any more latitude than he already has. He doesn't own my words and I won't allow evil to take over exclusive use of our positive words. God bless.
  • Jack H Coffey on 1 Kings 10:10 - 5 years ago
    How much is a hundred and twenty talents of gold in present day value
  • Merlinda Rose Jacobs on James 4:1 - 5 years ago
    Why did God harden Pharaoh's heart to not let the Israelites go?
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on John 3:13 - 5 years ago
    Hello brother Earl,

    Again I thank you for your replies. As it is our destiny to grow in the Spirit of Christ and see with His eyes.

    As the ways of God are beyond what I could fathom. Truly my faith in God and Jesus Christ being, that whatever the way of the Lord is, I know it is the right way and I am His forever. Even if I don't understand. Keeping root in the Word with a pure heart and staying close to the Lord. He shall direct us down the straight and narrow path. His Will shall be done.

    Weather we believe "hell" to be a place of eternal torment like stated in Matthew 25:46. Or as you explain. It is a place we do not want to go or have anything to do with. Christ stating in Matthew 10:28.

    As we who are in Christ here are Blessed to have been chosen by Him to be His.

    In 1 Corinthians 16:22 stating those who "love not the Lord"(not with the Lord) to basically let him be set aside for the coming Judgement of the Lord.

    A couple about saving a soul. As we can only plant or water, it is God who gives the growth. James 5:19-20, Jude 1:23.

    Again thank you for your time and posts brother. It means a lot.

    God Bless you Earl. Have a wonderful day!
  • Sam on Romans 13:4 - 5 years ago
    Owe only Love!

    The words we speak change our spiritual way of thinking.

    People all over the world greet each other, saying, Hello!

    Look at this word "Hello", again now from a spiritual perspective! "Hell-O", "Hell-Owe"!

    HELLO, sounds same as HELL-Owe. Spiritual there is a connection, and here is proof:

    Sometimes in thw world, carnal men and women tell each other, "They got hell to pay"! They are saying "owe"hell...Hello, Hell-Owe.

    We as God's children should not use the word "HellO" as a greeting anymore!

    The Lord, Jesus Christ tells us in Romans 13:8 that, "The only thing man should 'owe', is Love."

    "Owe no man any thing, except to love, for he who loves the other is satisfying theLaw." Romans 13:8

    We as God's spiritual children should use "Love-Owe" as our new greeting, because the only thing man should owe is Love!

    LoveOwe!
  • Farmer on John 3:13 - 5 years ago
    what dose lot mean in joshua 16
  • Ron - In Reply on Ezekiel 16 - 5 years ago
    Sherry Talley, short summation, Ezekiel 16 is a chapter that God was dealing with Israel and her abominations. It covers from their beginning, their ups and downs and God took pity on them. It covers how God picked them up and blessed and multiplied Israel making them rich and a nation. It covers how deep into pagan worship with idolatry, human sacrifice, and practicing ritual prostitution they had gone. Judgment was given against Jerusalem and ending with remembering the covenant.

    Your question about praying for drying blood. Many not from the southern states, mainly the hill country may not have heard of this. Some people are said to have the gift of healing, that is for each individual to believe or not. One prays for healing using different bible verses, a verse from Ezekiel 16 is used for healing humans or animals that has bleeding that can not be stopped, to stop the bleeding. This goes back to the early settling of the states and things brought over from the old country, and probably still being used. It is controversial and some say mystical so if you have a congregation you attend, ask your pastor.

    God bless, Ron
  • Jesse - In Reply on John 3:13 - 5 years ago
    Julie,

    It means that we enter into God's rest. It's speaking about salvation. In Chapter 4, the writer is going back to creation. He's saying if you surrender to Christ, you will be doing just what God did. You will cease from your own works, your own efforts, at your own salvation, you will cease from your own works, and you will enter into God's rest.

    When a person receives Jesus Christ and has been born of His Spirit, that person enters into His rest.
  • Dixie on John 3:13 - 5 years ago
    where in the new testament that it says close your mouth and listen to God
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on John 3:13 - 5 years ago
    Brother Richard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

    I believe if there is a second death; there has to also be a first death.

    Two resurrections; therefore, two deaths.

    God is no respector of person; therefore, if the ones in second resurrection die (are judged) in the lake of fire; the ones in the first resurrection also die (are judged) in the lake of fire.

    When Christ caused us to become one with him (CHRIST IN US) we we cast into (CHRIST) the lake of fire. To partake of the bread of life and the fountain of living water we also have to partake of the judgement of fire. As the bread and water gives us life, the fire cleanses and purifies us. We are being judged in the lake of fire (word of God) now; therefore, we want have our part in the lake of fire at the second resurrection.

    Hebrews 9:27 And as it is APPOINTED unto men once to die, but after this the judgement:

    We died with Christ on the Cross (first death). We are being judged IN CHRIST now, BY THE WORD, BY FIRE. Those appointed the second death will be judged IN CHRIST ( Hebrews 10:31), BY THE WORD, BY FIRE.

    Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was offered once for the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear a SECOND TIME (NOW, to those in the first resurrection the second coming is NOW; we don't have to wait for the literal appearance of Christ) WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION.

    For those in the second resurrection their judgement IN CHRIST is going to last awhile. Matthew says those that blaspheme the Holy Spirit want be saved in this age or the next age. This age so far has lasted 2000 years. We don't know how long the next age will last.

    I believe those in the second resurrection will be raised back in bodies of flesh. The first resurrection, glorified bodies.

    Revelation 20:7 ...Satan (flesh) will be loosed out of his prison (death and the grave),

    1 Corinthians 15:40 celestial (glorified); terrestrial (flesh and blood)
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on 2 Timothy 2 - 5 years ago
    Hello Tamara,

    As we have gone through this several times on this site. There are some who say that and usually use verses like Mark 16:17. Along with verses through Acts in where the first people receiving the Holy Spirit, after the resurrection of Christ, spake it tongues. Though this does not prove that "theory" of "you have to speak in tongues if you have the Holy Spirit". To speak in "tongues" is a gift from God. I do not condemn anyone who want's to do that. Though as my focus is on doing the Will of God more than anything. I myself really have no interest in that gift. If God wanted me to speak to someone in another language He would have me do it.

    I say to you in truth and certainty I have received the Holy Ghost from above. I do not speak in tongues. And I have been condemned by others here for that. Though it makes no difference to me in that they will have to give account for their words.

    Read 1 Corinthians 12. Which is about the diversities of gifts from the Holy Spirit. Unique to every person. 1 Corinthians 14 also. One verse is 1 Corinthians 14:5. "Greater is he that prophsieth than he that speaketh with tongues".

    Don't let people fool you with that false interpretation. That if you don't speak in tongues you're none of His. Look at Matthew 7:21-23. It is not even the works that we do that save us. The Lord searches our hearts and knows who are His. Good works are what we do to produce good fruit unto the Lord as we know that is what pleases Him. Though that is not what saves us in the end.

    Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life!

    God Bless.
  • Ron - In Reply on Romans 6:23 - 5 years ago
    Amen Jerry Smith, At the resurrection, our sleeping soul and body will awake and put on immortality and if we fear man instead of God and not be obedient to God, we will face the judgment and punishment of the second death the eternal death that was past to us from the first Adam, that will destroy the body and the soul.

    What is our spirit? Some use the Bible verse Ecclesiastes 12:7 to support the belief of going to heaven when we die. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. God gave us breath like in Genesis; God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.

    Without spirit, the body is dead. Psalm 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust. James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. Therefore, in the Bible, the word ruach is translated not only as "spirit" but also as "force," or life-force, breath is life.



    Think of when you go in or out of a room you flip the light switch and the light goes on or off, the electricity is the spirit of the light bulb and without it the bulb is dead. There is also the Spirit we worship God, is it also similar to the electricity that turns on the light bulb?

    Yes, it flows like electricity but it carries comfort, guidance, truth, love, it regenerates and renews and assists believers in prayer. Spirit, is the same word as breath, but what flows through this Holy Spirit is not air or electricity. It is an invisible channel and a door, we communicate to and from God in the name of Jesus, a dwelling place (mansion) in us, Jesus restored with his death on the cross.

    God bless, Ron
  • Chris - In Reply on John 3:13 - 5 years ago
    Sacha, it is possible that the OT folk knew something of a suffering beyond the grave, but I agree that there's not a lot mentioned in that respect. We could look at Daniel 12:2: "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Here the thought is that those who die will awake (resurrection?), some to everlasting life & some to everlasting contempt. So even if one doesn't believe in a never-ending suffering, this verse shows that the dead don't remain dead but arise to some sort of judgement & punishment that doesn't end.

    Isaiah 30:33: "For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it." In this verse, the word "Tophet" is used & in the Greek (NT) is translated as Gehenna. This was a place near Jerusalem, in which the idolatrous Israelites used to offer up their children to Moloch. It may be put, for any place of torment; and particularly it is put for hell. "For the king": For the king of Assyria. "Fire": He alludes to the ancient custom, of burning sacrifices, and particularly of burning children to Moloch. "The breath": The immediate Hand of God, or His Word of anger. "Brimstone": alludes to that shower of fire and brimstone seen in Gen 19:24. Though this verse doesn't speak of an after death judgement, it reveals its counterpart in the NT.

    You can also look at Isaiah 66:22-24. So I can't say why there was not more written about this subject in the OT & even among Jews there are different camps as to what to believe. For me, I think it sufficient that Jesus spoke very clearly about it & treated the everlasting suffering of the sinner as real & it was for this reason He came so that none should fall under the Hand of God ( Hebrews 10:31).
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Nehemiah 8 - 5 years ago
    Hi Cam

    Mathew 28:1

    Mark 16:1-8

    Luke 24:1-12

    John 20:1-18.

    Should answer your Question about whether Jesus is still in the grave.

    Infact there's no shortage of info on Jesus in the scripture, It's a matter of believing!!

    You would have to read all the scripture and believe in what's given.

    God bless.
  • Mountain Preacher - In Reply on Acts 28 - 5 years ago
    Brother Jones : Nero may have executed Paul but we name our sons Paul and our dogs Nero ! So who actually won that one ? Our beloved Paul went home to be with Jesus Christ ! Praise God for salvation !
  • Spiritual Man vs Carnal Man on Psalms 91 - 5 years ago
    1 Corinthians 5:3

    For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

    2 Corinthians 5:6

    Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

    2 Corinthians 5:8

    We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 15:44

    It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

    Philippians 3:21

    Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

    Romans 7:24

    O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

    Genesis 1

    26 And God said, Let us make man in OUR IMAGE, after OUR LIKENESS...

    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    Comment by Mishael:

    When Adam and Eve were created, they were comprised of spirit+soul+flesh. After they ate the fruit, their spirit connection was cut off from God. After the Cross: The reconnection was made available. "For God so loved the world..." John 3:16

    1 Corinthians 13:9-12

    9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

    10 But when that which is perfect (Jesus) is come, then that which is IN PART shall be done away.

    11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man (spiritual), I put away childish things.

    12 For NOW WE SEE through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know, even as also I am known.

    I'm all for doctrine, theology, original languages. Jesus told us to be as little children. Don't make it so hard. We don't have another 2000 years to help people believe on Jesus for salvation. Selah.
  • Jerry smith on Romans 6:23 - 5 years ago
    I think that too many try to define scripture by a word or passage that may or may not actually indecisively define the true context of what is written and or said,,, Jesus declared that He is the resurrection and the life,, that no man comes unto the Father Sept by Him,, AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN HIM ,,,THEN YOU WILL LIVE,,,. EVEN THO YOU DIE!!!!!

    What does He mean,""" if we believe in Him"" ,,,and what does He mean""even tho we die,,,?? Many try to seperate"the person from the body here and say that only the body dies and the person is immortal,,even tho Jesus just said that """ (you)will live,,,""" even tho ""( you)""( will die"), is that contradictive to what He says in John 8:51, if anyone keeps my word, He will not see death,He will live forever ,,or in the passage just prior to when He says"" I am the resurrection and the life, the one that believes in me will live,,EVEN THO YOU DIE"" and the one that lives believing in me will not see death,nor ever die,

    To twist a declaration of man being immortal in any sense by standing on these words is self serving to that person's doctrinal belief and not according to these passages,

    The revealing understanding that the person is spoken of in the same state as the very one that dies being the very one that never dies is a clear reference to what happens to us in death, and those believing in him are resurrected to eternal life and in that state never die or see death ,,So,,,,,even tho we die,,,,(the person) not just a person's body as some declare allowing for a immortal soul conceptual belief,,but the person of ,, and once resurrected back to life,, will live eternally

    This is proven by His resurrection to life being a bodily resurrection

    The same body he died in now glorified and renewed free from any disease etc The spear in the side was of great significance, it allowed them to see that He was mortal as His brothern bleeding blood as they will,for theyhad to witness this lest any man believe ,


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