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  • Chase McLaren - In Reply - 4 years ago
    OSEAS,

    Daniel 9:27 speaks to me differently. That verse is an esoteric overview, the abomination that makes desolate in the midst of the week, and where anti-christ is revealed (Babylon falling away). There is only a 42 month window for anti-christ, we only have the 2nd half of the week left.

    27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    Something tells me you won't let go of your doctrines, and you'd be remiss to not profess 2 beasts having 42 months consecutive power in antichrists 7 year kingdom.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 4 years ago
    Joanne David

    The lost sheep of Israel ( Jeremiah 50:6)

    Jesus came to fulfill the law, the first covenant, flesh had to live a sinless life under the law of Moses given by God before it was considered an executed contract (fulfilled). The prophets, all prophecy pointing to the coming of their Messiah had to be fulfilled. These two things had to be completed before God could make a new covenant. The first covenant was made with the house of Israel and the second was offered to the house of Israel first but they rejected Jesus as their Messiah.

    We see in ( Matthew 10:5-8) that Jesus told the twelve, to go only to the house of Israel and not to go by the way of Gentiles. God even told them when the Messiah would come, ( Daniel 9:25) and in ( Ezekiel 34:23-24) they were told a Shepard was coming. but they did not want to give up their authority and wealth they were enjoying, meaning the Sadducees and Pharisees.



    Even when Jesus was born, they heard that it was in Bethlehem they were troubled ( Matthew 2:3) they did not even want to go see if it was their King/Messiah. We see in Acts when they totally said they reject Jesus and the new covenant, when they killed Stephen.

    Acts 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,



    The Apostles continued to confirm the new covenant to the house of Israel until Peter had his dream and Paul was converted and what God told Abraham came to be, and the mystery was revealed and confirming to the house of Israel stopped. The branch was broken off so we may be grafted in.

    Genesis 18:18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

    Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Richard Estrada - In Reply - 4 years ago
    OSEAS,

    There are several ways to look at this scripture. It is wrapped in mystery that's not easily meant to see. Esoteric in nature. I can only take the essence of the story and see how fits & splits between Jesus' and satan's earthly ministries. You have to think your way through it, it could take years, some you'll never know. God is going to make you work for what he previously has spelled out in allegory.

    Daniel 9:27 allegory makes me envision the beast army forewarning its Babylon attack, thinking about placing the abomination that makes desolate (smart missiles) ( Joel 2:4-11) ( Isaiah 47) ( Revelation 18). This sixth trumpet, surprise event begins anti-christ's 3.5 year reign.

    ( Daniel 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Johnathan Taylor

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Sorry, your information is not accurate. The 3.5 years of the 7 last years have NOT been fulfilled as you claim.

    I agree "The prophesy is not in consecutive years", but not in the manner you are interpreting.

    Christ JESUS crucified (cut off) had/has nothing to do with the entire week of seven years as you believe.

    JOHNATHAN, what prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.

    Daniel 9:26-27-CJB-Complete Jewish Bible-

    v.26 Then, AFTER the sixty-two weeks, Mashiach will be cut off and have nothing. The people of a PRINCE YET TO COME will destroy the city and the sanctuary,...

    v.27 He (the EVIL PRINCE) will make A STRONG COVENANT WITH LEADERS FOR ONE WEEK [of years]. ...

    Comments:

    Do you see? Based in the Word of GOD,A SATANIC AND DESTRUCTIVE PRINCE rules the week 70th BY ENTIRE, i.e.7 YEARS, and makes A STRONG COVENANT WITH LEADERS FOR ONE WEEK [of years]. ...

    These terrible EVENTS revealed in the Word of GOD quoted above didn't happen in the time of JESUS, or rather, during His Ministry, He had already been cut off before the week 70th, there is a gap between the week 69 and 70, and JESUS never saw, neither heard to speak of that satanic PRINCE during His Ministry, no destruction occurred by any prince in the time of JESUS, until He be crucified.

    For better understanding, WE NEED TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, because in this POINT - Daniel 9:v.26-27-, that is, AFTER the END of the week 69,the prophecy reveals a PRINCE is working in his STRONG COVENANT with LEADERS during the week 70th;This satanic EVENT did not occur in the time of JESUS.

    Who is this EVIL prince?

    What kind of STRONG COVENANT the satanic PRINCE makes with leaders for one week [of years]?

    Who are these leaders?

    In this POINT - Daniel 9:v.26-27-,that is, AFTER the END of the week 69,a PRINCE is working in his strong COVENANT with leaders to be applied for ONE WEEK divided in two periods of 3,5 years or 42 months (first half and 2nd half)

    Its it
  • OSEAS - 4 years ago
    THE LAST WEEK OF DANIEL 9:v.27

    The main events before the beginning of the last week of Dan.9:27.

    See below what will happen from now on.The last week is not too far to start.Here goes the events that will preceed the last week as was prophesied by Dan.9:27:

    - Death of Pope Francis, the rule and guide of the powerfull religious MONSTER of 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his horns(10 kings) ten crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy.-Vicarius Filli Dei;

    - The Beast of the earth with two horns LIKE A LAMB rises up in Israel;(earth is Israel-the clay- Isaiah 64:v.8-the dry land- Genesis 1:v.9);

    - Election of the a new Pope-his pseudo-name or nickname may be Paulus VII(Rev.17:10);

    - Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB will manifest himself as God in Israel;in fact a false messiah,an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah;Then there will be two powerful and satanic Beasts in the Earth;

    - The esoteric and kabblistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth will make great signs and wonders of lie,even makes fire come down to the earth before men;Rev.13:13-15;

    - The Pope Paulus VII will meet the Beast like lamb;

    - Both will develop an union between the RCC and Judaism, iron with clay- Dan. 2:41-43-but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay;

    - A religious and universal satanic Empire will be build by both religious leaders-Rev.11:1-2;

    - The esoteric and kabbalistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth-the false messiah of the Jews- will make a deal with the Beast of sea-the Papacy-,and the Beast of earth,the false messaiah-AN IMPOSTOR-will give to the Beast of sea his Power,and his Throne, and great Authority.Then,the Antichrist's Empire is conceived by both satanic Beasts;

    All events listed above,some will will happen before starting the last week-Dan.9:27,for example,the death of Pope Francis,others during the week as soon it starts,and others in the middle of the week and until the consumation.

    Get ready
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 4 years ago
    B. WATTS

    There will be two Beasts as soon the last week of Daniel 9:v.27 starts. Both Beasts will work together: (1)The Beast of sea-a Gentile Beast; and (2)"ANOTHER Beast will come up out of the earth(Israel);and he has two horns like a lamb, and he speaks as Dragon

    (1)BEAST OF SEA

    Rev.13:v.1-And I stood upon the sand of the sea (sea means waters. Waters mean peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues-Gentile peoples), and saw a Beast rise up out of the sea,having seven heads (7 heads are 7 mountains, and 7 kings),and ten horns (10 horns are 10 kings), and upon his(10)horns ten crowns (because are 10 kings), and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. What's name of blaspheme? Well, this Man Beast, is a religious and satanic MONSTER who has 7 heads in this current time,the 10 kings are not linked to him yet, and this powerful religious and satanic MONSTER manifests himself as a Christian, even as Vicarius Filii Dei, actually a false Christian.

    The 7 heads of the Beast are 7 hills or 7 mountains that Christians imagine Scriptures refer to the 7 hills of Rome. In anyway, the woman which rides upon the Beast of sea-the RCC- is materially sat upon many peoples, and multitudes, and nations and tongues, and all them are spread by 7 regions of the Earth, i.e.in Europe,and Asia, Africa,Oceania(Australia),and North America,Central America, and South America, but spiritually they are guided and ruled by the Beast of sea, whose headquarter is Vatican City built on the 7 hills of Rome.

    About 10 kings they will be linked to that Beast of sea when the MAN Beast of earth(2) gives to him his Throne in Jerusalem, and Power, and great Authority to him.

    (2) The Beast of earth(Israel) like a lamb, a false lamb, an ESOTERIC and KABBALISTIC, and SPIRITIST Beast, the future guide and ruler of Judaism and the nation of ISRAEL,he will manifest himself as messiah,a man understood in Torah,a false prophet of the Jews-2Thes.2

    Each one will rule Antichrist's kingdom by 3 years a
  • Ronald L Whittemore - 4 years ago
    The 70 th Week

    Part 1

    There are many teachings on the end times and many include seven years which comes from the book of Daniel, taking the last week of the 70 weeks prophecy given to Daniel from God through the angel Gabriel.

    The 70-week prophecy given to Daniel has been used to create a doctrine of the rapture of the church, pre, mid, post, the last week, and much more. The reason for this post is I feel it is deceiving and causes people to be looking for something that will not happen, the days to come will be horrible, many of us if we are still living will face death.



    This prophecy was on Judah and the city of Jerusalem, and six things were determined upon them that would be fulfilled during this time. ( Daniel 9:25) From the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah (Jesus) will be 69 weeks, rebuilding the temple is not in this prophecy. The first captives released with Zerubbabel started work on the temple first before Ezra and Nehemiah ever went to Jerusalem, the temple was rebuilt before the 70-weeks prophecy started, it was dedicated in 515BC, finished in 516 BC.

    When did the clock start on the prophecy? ( Nehemiah 2:1-8), the twentieth year of Artaxerxes I, 445/444 BC. In this decree, Nehemiah tells the king he was sad because the city of his father's lieth in waste. So, Jerusalem has not been rebuilt at this time. The king gave him permission to go and rebuild the city, the walls, and the gates.

    69x7=483 years 365-day years, Daniel used prophetical years; 30-day months, 360-day years so, to convert 365-day years to 360-day years, 483x360=173880 days divided by 365=476 years. So, if the going forth was in 445 BC, minus 476 brings us to 31 AD. Because there is not a 0 year subtract 1, that puts it at 30 AD. With the different historical records, it could be 29/31 AD. This is when Jesus came to John B and was baptized 69 weeks from the going forth from 445/444BC.

    RLW
  • Ronald L Whittemore - 4 years ago
    The 70 th Week

    Part 2

    More scripture on Jesus first coming ( Luke 3:1-6) Tiberius Caesar was emperor from 14-37 A.D. Pontius Pilate ruled from 26-36 A.D. so the fifteenth year of Tiberius would have been 29-31 A.D. start of John the Baptist ministry. Jesus was baptized, then Jesus went into the wilderness for forty days, tempted by Satan. Then His ministry started. They put John B in jail and later beheaded him. Not long after, in John 2, Jesus was in Cana of Galilee at the wedding and after in John 2:13, the Passover was at hand. This would place it just before spring of 29-31 A.D. maybe a month before the Passover.

    ( Daniel 9:26), "after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off". The 7 weeks, 49/48.3 years that are not counted. This was when the restoration and repairing of the walls, streets, and gates of the city of Jerusalem by Ezra and Nehemiah ( Nehemiah 2:8-17; 4:17). Troublous times when their enemies tried to stop the building ( Nehemiah 4:7) the first 7 weeks, 49 years, or 48.3 prophetical years of the prophecy. So, the main word here is after. The Messiah (Jesus) is cut off 7+62=69+3.5 years= 479.5 prophetical years with 3.5 years to go to 490 years 365-day years or 483 prophetical years

    The other half of 9:26 tells us the people (Roman army) of the prince (Titus) "that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary" 70 AD. Titus did not want to destroy the temple, he wanted to make it a Roman temple but the army (people) set it on fire and destroyed it.

    ( Daniel 9:27). Jesus was here 3.5 years confirming the covenant to the lost sheep of Israel. When Jesus was cut off (crucified) in the middle of the week, He caused the Levitical law sacrifices and oblations to cease, no more animal sacrifices would be accepted by God, Jesus said the worship of God will no longer be accepted at the temple ( John 4:19-24), and the veil rent in half, ( Matthew 23:31-38) covers the second half of verse 9:27.

    RLW
  • Ronald L Whittemore - 4 years ago
    The 70 th Week

    Part 3

    Jesus confirmed the last 3.5 years through His apostles ending when Stephen was killed, Paul was converted, Peter had his dream the conformation to Judah ended and the gospel was sent to the Gentiles. This fulfills the 70=weeks 490/483 years

    We have been told to study, we are told to test the spirits, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray. These are the six things that were determined on Judah and the holy city Jerusalem, a few verses that may help see if this has been fulfilled by Jesus.

    1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

    2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

    ( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

    ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

    ( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

    6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

    The 70 th week has been used along with other Bible verses to paint a fantastic picture of end times. The pre, mid, or post rapture of the Church, an antichrist, 7-year tribulation, 3.5-year covenant with Israel, a third temple, abomination of desolation, 3.5 years great tribulation after breaking covenant, and more. Many of these teachings started in the late 1600s. I hope this helps, if this prophecy has been fulfilled, it will show the falsehoods of these teachings because without using part of the 70 weeks prophecy given to Daniel, these teachings will fall apart.

    Acts.3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

    RLW
  • OSEAS - 4 years ago
    Pope Francis may or even must die very soon (I wrote this 4 days ago to JUAN DIAZ here) and then will be elected a new Pope, and this will be the last Pope, most likely he will assume the nickname Paulus VII (Paulus Septimus). Revelation 17:v.10- And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

    Revelation was written around year 95AD, but the fulfilment of the apocaliptical prophecy would begin after the death of the fifth king (Paulus V) and the sixth king be elected- Paulus VI. Here goes:

    Paulus V-( Paulus Quintus) 16 May 1605-28 Jan 1621 (15 years, 257 days)

    Paulus VI-(Paulus Sextus) 21 June 1963-6 Aug 1978 (15 years, 46 days)

    NOTE:

    We are in the year 2.021 in accord Christian calendar. The fulfilment of prophecy of Revelation is very advanced in the time, today we can and MUST say that the above 6 of the 7 "kings" have fallen, it means, they already died.

    Paulus VII-(Paulus Septimus) This seventh"king"and LAST POPE is not yet come; and when he cometh, he MUST continue for a short space, i.e. 42 months or 1,260 days, no more, as it is determined by the Word of God, the Word is God. It is he who will rule the FIRST HALF of the last week of Daniel 9:v.27- Revelation 13:v.5.

    We are speaking of the book of Revelation, a former sealed book that was with God and He gave it to JESUS, for only He could break the seals. About the book of Revelation, the angel of the Lord said and John did write, as follow:

    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book the seven seals.

    In Christ JESUS, KING of kings and LORD of lords
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 4 years ago
    TO GARY and ALL

    ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION - DAN. 12:v.11- MATTHEW 24:v.15 AND EZEKIEL 21:v.25 - GET READY -

    587 B.C. - Judah is conquered by Babylon -Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews are exiled. Later, Babylon was conquered by Cyrus-550 -539 B.C., and Cambises 530-522 B.C. , and Darius-522-486 B.C.

    Captivity of Israel - 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C.

    The rebuild of the Temple started with Cyrus and ended with Darius.

    Scriptures reveal: Ezra 6:v.15-CJB-Complete Jewish Bible - 15 This house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, in the sixth year of the reign of Daryavesh(Darius) the king. (Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.) 522-6 = 516 B.C.

    First year of Darius 522 B.C.---> AFTER his sixth year of rule --> 516 B.C.

    522 - 6= 516 B.C. - the rebuilding of the Temple finished after 21 years IN THE YEAR 516 B.C, part was built in the time of Cyrus, and part in the time of Darius.

    Again: Captivity of Israel - 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C. - The END of the rebuilding of the Temple was in 516 B.C. according to Scripture quoted above.- Ezra 6:v.15

    7 weeks = 49 years ........... ---> 517 B.C. - 49 = 468 B.C.

    62 weeks = 434 years ....... ---> 468 B.C.- 434= 34 B.C.

    There is a gap of 30 years from year 34 B.C. to the birth of JESUS-->34 BC-30= -4 B.C. - recognized date for the birth of JESUS.

    Based in the description above, the Messiah was crucified (was cut off) around year 29 AD.

    We are in the year 2021 AD, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27 that will be RULED BY THE EVIL PRINCE- 2 Thessalonians 2- it does not fulfilled yet, i.e. until now, until the current time, but it will in NEAR FUTURE. Get ready.

    By the way, the theory that JESUS was cut off in the middle of week 70th is fake, its a lie. Also the satanic theory that the Abomination of Desolation fulfilled in the profane sacrificies of Antiochus 167 B.C is fake, it is doctrine of demons believed by many Christian people, unfortunately.

    Its it. Again: Get ready
  • OSEAS - 4 years ago
    The mysterious day 1,335- Daniel 12:v.12

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    The day 1.335 is not so far, i.e.75 days after the end of the second half of the last week, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27- yeah, this day is not so far. It will be the beginning of the millennial Kingdom of GOD, according His Word. Actually, we are living in the last decade of the Devil's world-2020-2030, and the last week 70th is within this last decade.

    THE LAST DECADE - COUNTDOWN

    07-04-2021 is the HUNDREDTH EIGHTIETH FOURTH DAY of the LAST DECADE of the Devil's world.The LAST WEEK, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27,and week of establishment of Abomination of Desolation, it is within of this LAST and current DECADE.

    Be careful and get ready

    Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and shut to the door... Luke 13:v.24-25

    This event is invisible and happens automatically over the years of this last decade of the current world.

    See, this current decade is the last decade of the current Devil's world with all its structures, be political, be religious, social, economic, military, technologic, and so on.

    And the earth and also THE WORKS that are therein shall be DISSOLVED and burned up, in fulfillment the prophetic message of Peter, the Apostle, in his 2nd epistle 3:v.7-13, saying:

    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the Day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be DISSOLVED, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat.

    The door of salvation is already starting to close.

    The current plague poured upon the planet as it is expressed in the Word of GOD-the Word is GOD-it is already being executed according the wrath of GOD. GOD will destroy those which destroy the earth-Rev.11:v.18-Check it out.

    The Word is GOD
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 4 years ago
    JUAN DIAZ

    D continuation of previous post

    Satan CORRUPTED the CHURCH OF ROME completely-the Antichrist developed itself-John Apostle denounced Satan's strategy- 1John 2:18-21.Paul Apostle,among others, was murdered.Around year 95 AD, after 65 years of JESUS's ascention,John Apostle had been exiled to the isle of Patmos.JESUS was worried with the 7 Churches of Asia that Satan tried to corrupt, for the Church of Rome was corrupted and fell in the hands of Satan.The Church of the LORD in Rome would be the eighth Church if it had not in the hands of Satan completely.Definitely or permanently, the Church of the Lord in Rome after being corrupted by the Devil became the cradle of Antichrist spiritually speaking- 1John 2:v.18-21.Two thousand years has passed, Satan perpetuated its religious power creating an universal and powerful religious and satanic system, a religious MONSTER with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a name of blasphemy, the nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER.To perpetuate this satanic dominion Satan created the Papacy in the year 67 AD-Pope Linus- after had corrupted the former Church of the Lord in Rome, and the Church was named Catholic Church, later Roman Catholic Church.Since the beginning of this corrupted "Christian" church were elected 266 Popes and upon them the RCC rides until this current time-and this satanic religious system is called as The Beast of sea-which rules and guides the nations spiritually.Sea is waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues,dominated by the Beast of sea.The Papacy and the Great Whore-the Roman Catholic Church-will be wounded to death from now on, day after day. Pope Francis must died soon and will be elected the last Pope, this elected last Pope will ruled the 1st half of the week 70th- Daniel 9:v.27. Rev.13:5-To happen this, must manifest first the Beast of earth,then there will be two Beast in the Earth.
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 4 years ago
    continuation of previous post



    Satan CORRUPTED the CHURCH OF ROME completely-the Antichrist developed itself-John Apostle denounced Satan's strategy- 1John 2:18-21.Paul Apostle, among others, was murdered.Around year 95 AD, after 65 years of JESUS's ascention,John Apostle had been exiled to the isle of Patmos.JESUS was worried with the 7 Churches of Asia that Satan tried to corrupt, for the Church of Rome was corrupted and fell in the hands of Satan.The Church of the LORD in Rome would be the eighth Church if it had not in the hands of Satan completely.Definitely or permanently, the Church of the Lord in Rome after being corrupted by the Devil became the cradle of Antichrist spiritually speaking- 1John 2:v.18-21.Two thousand years has passed, Satan perpetuated its religious power creating an universal and powerful religious and satanic system, a religious MONSTER with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a name of blasphemy, the nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER.To perpetuate this satanic dominion Satan created the Papacy in the year 67 AD-Pope Linus- after had corrupted the former Church of the Lord in Rome, and the Church was named Catholic Church, later Roman Catholic Church.Since the beginning of this corrupted "Christian" church were elected 266 Popes and upon them the RCC rides until this current time-and this satanic religious system is called as The Beast of sea-which rules and guides the nations spiritually.Sea is waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, dominated by the Beast of sea.The Papacy and the Great Whore-the Roman Catholic Church-will be wounded to death from now on, day after day. Pope Francis must died soon and will be elected the last Pope, this elected last Pope will ruled the 1st half of the week 70th- Daniel 9:v.27. Rev.13:5-To happen this, must manifest first the Beast of earth,then there will be two Beast in the Earth.
  • OSEAS - 4 years ago
    JUAN DIAZ

    Yes. There will be two Beasts as soon the last week of Daniel 9:v.27 starts. Both Beasts will work together-(1)The Beast of sea-a Gentile Beast;and (2)"ANOTHER Beast will come up out of the earth(Israel);and he has two horns like a lamb, and he speaks as a Dragon

    (1)BEAST OF SEA

    Rev.13:v.1-And I stood upon the sand of the sea (sea means waters. Waters mean peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues-Gentile peoples), and saw a Beast rise up out of the sea,having seven heads (7 heads are 7 mountains, and 7 kings),and ten horns (10 horns are 10 kings), and upon his (10) horns ten crowns (because are 10 kings) , and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. What's name of blaspheme? Well, this Man Beast, is a religious and satanic MONSTER who has 7 heads in this current time,the 10 kings are not linked to him yet, and this powerful religious and satanic MONSTER manifests himself as a Christian, even as Vicarius Filii Dei, actually a false Christian.

    The 7 heads of the Beast are 7 hills or 7 mountains that Christians imagine Scriptures refer to the 7 hills of Rome. In anyway, the woman which rides upon the Beast of sea-the RCC- is materially sat upon many peoples, and multitudes, and nations and tongues, and all them are spread by 7 regions of the Earth, i.e.in Europe,and Asia, Africa,Oceania(Australia), and North America,Central America, and South America, but spiritually they are guided and ruled by the Beast of sea, whose headquarter is Vatican City built on the 7 hills of Rome.

    About 10 kings they will be linked to that Beast of sea when the MAN Beast of earth(2) gives to him his Throne in Jerusalem, and Power, and great Authority to him.

    (2)The Beast of earth(Israel) like a lamb,a false lamb,an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast,future guide and ruler of Judaism,he will manifest himself as messiah,a man understood in Torah,a false prophet of the Jews-2 Th.2

    Each one will rule Antichrist's kingdom by 3,5 years for each one
  • OSEAS - 4 years ago
    Daniel 9:.26-27-CJB-Jewish Bible-WHAT PREVAILS IS THE WORD OF GOD. The Word is GOD.

    26 Then, AFTER(yeah AFTER)after the sixty-two weeks, MASHIACH will be cut off and have nothing.The people of A PRINCE (YEAH A PRINCE) yet to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary, but his end will come with a flood, and desolations are decreed until the war is over.(This has nothing to do with the destruction of Israel in the year 70AD, as follows:

    27 He (he WHOM? the PRINCE; who is he?) he will make a strong COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week [of years].

    (Do you see? This SATANIC PRINCE will rule the last week, the week 70th, by entire. And he will make a strong COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week[of years].

    What kind of strong COVENANT the satanic PRINCE will make with leaders?Who are these leaders?

    In this POINT, that is, AFTER the END of the week 62, the prophecy is still in the beginning of the week 70th, and A PRINCE is working in his strong COVENANT with leaders;

    Therefore, in this point the FIRST half of the week 70th is in the beginning, and it is already running, and the STRONG COVENANT of the satanic PRINCE and the LEADERS takes place or is applied for ONE WEEK,but there is a period of time AND EVENTS called or known as FIRST half of the last week that is ruled by the EVIL PRINCE.

    ... he-the EVIL PRINCE-shall confirm the COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK:and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK he-THE EVIL PRINCE-shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    Scripture does not say JESUS was crucified IN 29 AD,many people are saying that, not Scripture. What Scripture says is that AFTER,yeah, AFTER the week 62 plus 7 the Messiah is"cut off".

    JESUS was not crucified neither in the week 69, but AFTER, neither in the midst of the week 70th, what is a devilish lie, this week 70th is/will be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE by entire
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    OSEAS,

    Please, I do not want to cause or start a debate because similar has been taught for many years, this is just to point out a few things you may look at in your study.

    The seven years come from Daniel 9:27, if that prophecy has been fulfilled what does that change?

    In Revelation 12:17 the original text, the dragon (Satan) is standing on the sands of the sea after he is cast down permanently to earth with no more access to heaven. Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Does that change the scene? Peaceful it will not be.

    In Revelation mainly there are Satan, the beast, and a false prophet. From long ago there were angels that left their estate and were locked in chains of darkness in the bottomless pit. We are told in ( Revelation 9:11) the king of the bottomless pit is in Hebrew Abaddon, in Greek Apollyon both meaning destruction the same meaning as perdition like son of.

    In Revelation the beast comes from the bottomless pit, ( Revelation 11:7) ( Revelation 17:8) With this in mind, do these verses imply this beast being a man?

    The word sea can symbolize peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues, it can also refer to the Mediterranean Sea, also the abyss, and the bottomless pit.

    I hope you take this well, it is just something you may look at in your studies. If you still feel confident in your interpretation that's ok. There are things we will not know until they happen and as long as we are watching, we are ready, our faith is strong, we walk in the Spirit of truth, we stand for Jesus, and we are prepared for what we may have to face, even if it is death.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Scotty - In Reply - 4 years ago
    OSEAS,

    You said "the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27 (7 years) is within of this current decade"

    Listen to this:

    -Jesus had the first 1/2 of the week, 42 months, and was cut off.

    -antichrist gets the second half of the week, 42 months, and is cut off by Jesus Messiah.

    It is a multi-thousand year old prophesy. There is no 7 year end-time run when he is revealed, only 42 months.
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Greetings in Christ JESUS, Robert

    Thank you for your reply. Reading the content of your post, honestly I'm not convinced of your theory because in

    Revelation 11, the two candlesticks (for me two Churches) standing before the God of the earth, as being two

    witnesses, they both will receive Power or be enpowered to shut heaven (to close the Dispensation of Grace or to finish

    it), that it rain not in the days (1.260 days) of their prophecy. And both have Power over waters (over peoples, and

    nations, and multitudes of all tongues - Gentile peoples) to turn them to blood; And to smite the earth (earth here can

    only be the place or nation of the birth of the Beast of earth who has two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a Dragon-

    Revelation 13:v.11-18- a false lamb of course, with two horns) , yeah, to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as

    they will.

    I see in advance that there will be two Beasts on the Earth in near future, they are:

    1 - the Man Beast of sea, with his headquarter in Europe-Rome;

    2 - the Man Beast of the earth, an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast, who will oppose and exalt himself above

    all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is

    God.

    That said I would ask: Would not be this ruthless Man Beast of the earth the same Character that is mentioned in

    Rev.11:v.4 that says "the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth" whose Country must be smite with all

    plagues in the last week, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27?
  • OSEAS - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Greetings in Christ, Wesley Masterson

    From everything you wrote in the first paragraph of your post, the most important is linked with the millennium itself, the other things although they are important too, however they are secondary.

    One of the most important event to happen in the beginning of the millennium is to cast down Satan from this heavenly environment in Christ (where we still are in in the present time) to the earth. Immediately thereafter, cast him into the bottomless pit that he should deceive the nations no more - Revelation 20:v.1-3.

    I think that you and all here know that the Word of GOD reveals that on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years ( Psalm 90:4; II Pet.3:8) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

    You and all here know that GOD sent JESUS in the TURN of the fourth Day to the fifth Day, or around 4,000 years after Adam. GOD was still working, as JESUS said: John 5:v.17 - My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. And from JESUS until the current time passad more two days or two thousand years, if we call the Christian calendar we would say that have passad 2,021 years. Therefore, from Adam until today already passad around 6,000 years.

    That said, we must discern and understand that we are already living in the beginning of the seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ, or seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day. In other words, we are living in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium. Honestly, in my vision, we are in the last decade of the Devil's world -2020 to 2030-, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27 (7 years) is within of this current decade, the times of the END arrived.

    What I tell you I tell to all: Get ready
  • Ptjones on Daniel 9 - 4 years ago
    Daniel 9:26-27. After 69 weeks the Messiah will cut off. He will be rejected.After that the people of the Prince (Jesus)to come will destroy the city and the Holy Sanctuary.The Prince used in two the two passages are one and the same.The people of Prince referred here was the Roman army.Because the Jews rejected their Messiah and killed Him. So that they are also rejected by God and they are no longer God's own people.After stoning of Stephen in AD 34 Jews sealed their fate and 70 weeks prophecy completed for the Jews and the gospel went to gentiles through Apostle Paul.So whoever believe in Jesus Christ are become His own people.Thus Romans are also His people.The abomination that desolated the Israel nation was rejecting their Messiah and killing Him.Through Jesus Christ by His sacrifice on the cross all sacrifices ended and the new covenant come in to force and it was sealed by His own blood.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Richard Estrada

    It seems we are not on the same page. I'm sorry my reply was not clear. I will try again but let's not be disrespectful. The thread you first replied to about the abomination of desolation was discussing teaching I do not agree with. It is called the seven years of tribulation using the last week in ( Daniel 9:27). It developed in the 17th Century, and it quickly led to an understanding that the Rapture of the Church would be an event separate from and before the second coming of Christ.



    The beast does only have 42 months. It starts in Revelation 12 when Michael stands up and Satan is cast down to earth, the third woe. ( Revelation 12:7-9) Satan then gives his power, seat, and great authority to the beast. ( Revelation 13:2-8)

    There is another beast with two horns, the false prophet, ( Revelation 13:11-18) he is the one that does miracles, fires from heaven, creates the image of the beast, and causes who will not worship this image to be killed, this beast causes people to take the mark of the beast all in 42 months.

    This is just a small bit of information but I hope it makes sense and clears up misunderstanding. If I may and not offend, may I suggest studying the day of the Lord?

    RLW
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Richard Estrada

    The interpretation of the 7 years, last week placed at the end times was what I was discussing. Where after the first 3.5 years of peace the antichrist does the abomination of desolation and causes sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and the great tribulation starts, taken from ( Daniel 9:27). Also used is, ( Matthew 24:15) and ( Mark 13:14) which combines (2 Thessalonian 2:4) as being in the middle of this 7-year interpretation using these Bible verses, which I feel is deceptive. That is what I meant, the abomination of desolation in this theory does not have anything to do with Revelation.

    Babylon/Babel will be destroyed by the ten kingdoms/countries that hate the whore, who have never had power until the beast from the bottomless pit, gives them power as kings one hour with this beast. We do see in Rev. 11 the beast kills the two witnesses and that city is where our Lord was crucified and we know where that was. ( Revelation 11:8)

    The destruction of this whore Babylon/Babel where ever it will be, will be destroyed close to the second coming of Jesus Christ. After it is destroyed it becomes the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird (fallen angels, and demon haven) "What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?" at this time their time is up and into the lake they go. ( Revelation 19:11-21) "the supper of the great God"

    If you believe in the rapture of the Church and this seven-year interpretation and all that is taught in it we may not agree. We need just to encourage each other in our faith in Jesus and our walk in the Spirit of truth.

    RLW
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Daniel 9:25-27, is used to create seven years of tribulation, and an antichrist at the end of days by taking the last week of the 70-week prophecy given to Daniel with the combination of verses in Matthew 24-25, Revelation, and parts of Paul's letters that create a most believable picture. If the 70th week has been fulfilled and not in the future, how does that change the picture that has been painted in our minds?

    The pre, mid, or post rapture of the Church, an antichrist, 7-year tribulation, covenant with Israel, a third temple, abomination of desolation, 3 years after covenant, then 3 years great tribulation. The 70th week is the glue that holds this interpretation together and without it what do we have? If the last week being in the future is wrong, what other parts of this interpretation are wrong?

    As Gabriel relayed from God to Daniel, the 70 weeks were determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city. House of Israel/ Jerusalem. This prophecy was for the first coming of Jesus, not the second coming. It tells the exact time He would first come, and the exact time He would be killed, the leaders of Jerusalem rejected it.

    Prophecy, 490 years, 483 years until Jesus the Messiah first coming, + Jesus' ministry 3 years, His crucifixion in the middle of the last week + 3 years until the gospel was given to the Gentiles= 490 years 70 weeks.

    Jesus is the he in 9:27 He confirmed the covenant with the house of Israel for 3 years, when Jesus was crucified, He cause the Levitical animal sacrifice and the oblation law to cease. The old covenant fulfilled.

    You can find for the overspreading of abominations, He (Jesus) shall make it desolate, in ( Matthew 23:35-38). The other 3 years were confirmed by Jesus through the Apostles until Peter had his dream completing the confirming to the house of Israel ending the 70th week.

    I hope this inspires to study, and not taken offensively because it is out of love.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Understand the last chapters of the Book of DANIEL - 4 years ago
    The 7 years of Tribulation

    The seven year tribulation starts when the anti-Christ is able to work out a peace treaty between Israel and her Arab enemies that will permit Israel to rebuild their Temple ( Daniel 9:27).

    The first half of the seven years is milder in comparison to the second half when the anti-Christ takes over world power. After 3.5 years, the anti-Christ breaks his agreement with Israel, takes over the newly rebuilt temple, ends the sacrifice and offerings, and appoints himself as god ( 2 Thessalonians 2:4). For more detail, click.

    Then everyone on earth will experience worldwide hardships, disasters, famine, hail, fire, water turning to blood, a third of the sun, moon, and stars being struck down, smoke that darkens the sun and the sky, attacks of locusts on those who do not have God's mark, war, pain, and suffering. At this time, over 66% of all human life on the earth will be eliminated before the Second Coming of Christ takes place. For a better description of the horrors, fears, terror, and deaths of the tribulation, read Revelation, chapters 6 through 11.

    God's furious anger against mankind

    Starting in Revelation 6, we see the first time since the great flood that God releases His anger against all of mankind. Starting with the seven seals of destruction and death, the seven trumpets of terror, seven angels with seven plagues, and the seven bowls of God's wrath. The timing of these retributions against evil appears to occur during the end of the tribulation.

    What is happening in Israel now?
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 4 years ago
    Rawlie,

    I hope this does not offend anyone. This prophecy that was given to Daniel, 70 weeks which is 70 7s = 490 years. This prophecy tells the exact year the Messiah (Jesus) arrives. ( Daniel 9:25) The 7 weeks + 3 score + 2 weeks = 69 weeks = 483 years leaving 1 week or 7 years that has been used with other verses in the Bible to create a theory about the end time.



    In ( Luke 3:1-6) scripture tells us the year. Tiberius Caesar was emperor from 14-37 A.D. Pontius Pilate ruled from 26-36 A.D. so the fifteenth year of Tiberius would have been 29-31 A.D. start of John the Baptist ministry. This and the other Gospels are pretty clear with baptizing by John most likely in the fall, 40 days in the wilderness, choosing his disciples, the wedding with the wine and the first of three Passovers and his crucifixion at the third, placing it in the middle, 3 years into the 70th week.

    Plain and simple math shows us if Jesus appeared in 69 weeks from the going forth of the commandment and He was cut off, crucified 3 years later that is in the middle of the 70th week. So, can you use this week at the end time? I will not post on Daniel 9:27, that will be too long, but hopefully what I have written will help your study. I made a post about what was determined in this prophecy yesterday. It has scripture you can read and decide for your own conscience the truth.

    May the Holy Spirit guide your study.

    RLW
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 4 years ago
    Rawlie,

    Matthew Chapter 24 gives a pretty detailed explanation of Daniel's 70th week.

    Seven Points about Prophecy:



    1) All prophecies concerning the last days are based upon Daniel 9:24-27, which presents the 70th week of Daniel.



    2) The 70th Week of Daniel is divided into four sections:



    1) Pains of birth: first 3 years of the Tribulation.



    2) Pivotal point: the mid-point of the Tribulation.



    3) Perils of tribulation: the last 3 years of the Great Tribulation.



    4) Promise of his coming: the Second Coming of Christ.





    3) Matthew



    Pains of birth: Matthew:24:4-14



    Pivotal point: Verse 15



    Perils of tribulation: Verses 16-28



    Promise of his coming: Verses 29-31



    4) End time prophecies are centered on the Jewish People.



    5) Matthew took his outline of the 70th week of Daniel from Mark Chapter 13, and they both recorded the Olivet discourse.



    6) The misunderstanding of the prophecies of the last days is based upon combining Luke's account with Matthew's and Mark's account as if they are the same message.



    7) Luke's version includes some of the same information only given at a different time, and covers different stages of the 70th week of Daniel.



    1. In Luke 21:5-6, Jesus was still in the Temple area



    2. Luke 21:7 records different questions. When will these things be? What sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?



    3. Luke covers the first part of the pains of birth in Luke 21:8-11

    Luke 21:12 "before all of these things"



    Luke 21:25-28 the promise of his coming

    I have an awesome chart but this website will not allow me to share it. If there is a way, I don't know how.
  • Ronald L Whittemore on Exodus 20 - 4 years ago
    For any who are looking at theories on how it ends. There is a fantastic picture that has been painted and taught since the early 1800s and is taken from Daniel 9:27 to create the last week (7 years). The entire theory and all that is taught that will happen hinges on taking the last week/7 years from this 70-week prophecy.

    This prophecy was determined on Daniel's people (house of Israel) and the holy city (Jerusalem).

    Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    If Jesus fulfilled what was determined in this prophecy, does that make this entire theory and all that is taught in this theory untrue?

    How will it change the picture if the 70th week in the book of Daniel has been fulfilled?

    What is our blessed hope?

    We have been told to study, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray.

    These are the six things that were determined, and a few verses that may help your study.

    1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

    2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

    ( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

    ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

    ( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

    6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

    RLW
  • Virginia ulrich on Romans 12 - 4 years ago
    Yes, since John 8:33 Esau now resides at the holy city, and acknowledges that they are Esau, and, are responsible for the wars, plagues, sacrifice and torture of many millions of children, we have a problem, as also explained at Malachi 1:3-4.

    Esau, and Canaanites of pollution with fallen angel mating, plus those Masons and others who take imprecatory secret oaths to Satan, are spreading great hated and lies against The Creator, King of Heaven and earth, and, His Savior Son, who by His Blood Redeems us from eternal death if we truly love Him to live according to His Spirit and His Word. Now as Obadiah, Isaiah 63, tells us, as well as John 8:33-44, Matthew 23, Rev. 2 and 3 of the Synagogue of Satan. They have even polluted all institutions on the earth. They are also now destroying all creation, and have brought on the Mark of the Beast of Rev. 13:16, that tracks people by a matrix of computers over all the earth, and changes the DNA of our bodies that house the temple of our Savior and His Holy Spirit IF we choose the jab to be owned by Satan, instead. People are taking that Beast ownership Mark, which can not be undone.

    We have not called on The Holy Names that Never changes since the beginning. See Palms 91, daniel 9:19, Exodus 9:16, Matthew 23:39 in the institutions of the earth! Like the 10 virgins, we need to call on Our Father in Heaven, and Hallow His Name, and forgive our debtors as we want to be forgiven, and, pray for enough Holy Spirit in our lamps.

    At Declaration of Independence, last paragraph, we find THE CREATOR is our Judge! At Deuteronomy 17:8, hard matters are brought to Him for Judgement. Vengeance belongs to Him. He owns everything. Psalms 24. At Zephaniah 3, He Judges between His people and Satan. Isaiah 66, Hosiah 5:15 we find examples of The Creator's judgment. At Joel 3, we find The Creator gathering the people's of the earth of war, together for a feast of the condemned flesh for the predator animals of the earth.
  • WE ARE AMBASSADORS FOR CHRIST on Romans 14 - 5 years ago
    A Ministry of PRAYER

    2 Corinthians 5:18-21

    And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the MINISTRY OF RECONCILIATION: to wit, that God was in Christ, RECONCILING the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us THE WORD of reconciliation. Now then WE ARE AMBASSADORS FOR CHRIST, as though God did beseech you by us: WE PRAY YOU in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

    For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

    Hebrews 2:17

    Wherefore in all things it behoved him (Jesus) to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make RECONCILIATION for the sins of the people.

    Ezekiel 45:15

    And one lamb out of the flock, out of two hundred, out of the fat pastures of Israel; for a meat offering, and for a burnt offering, and for peace offerings, to make RECONCILIATION for them, saith the Lord GOD.

    Daniel 9:24

    .....to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make RECONCILIATION for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    Leviticus 8:15

    And he slew it; and Moses took the blood, and put it upon the horns of the altar round about with his finger, and purified the altar, and poured the blood at the bottom of the altar, and sanctified it, to make RECONCILIATION upon it.

    2 Chronicles 29:24

    And the priests killed them (animals), and they made RECONCILIATION with their blood upon the altar, to make an atonement for all Israel: for the king commanded that the burnt offering and the sin offering should be made for ALL Israel.

    Comment: We are priests through Jesus. Our prayer life is important. We are bold through His righteousness. Be strong and faithful to pray.

    Mishael


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