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Most everyone looks at the words in the scriptures as words that have a natural meaning, and they do; but, the WORDS were to be absolute truth in the SPIRITUAL MEANING. John 6:63
For women to be silent in the church and be taught by their husband has a far greater SPIRITUAL meaning than taught by the wisdom of men.
God is no respector of persons, the scriptures have gender in them to be used as instruction. God IS SPIRIT, spirit has no gender; but, God is always referred to in the male gender. The woman is referred to in the female gender. SPIRITUALLY the woman is the wife of Christ; whether you are a male or female you are the woman, Christ wife. The church is YOU; Christ is your husband (whether you be male of female); therefore we ALL (THE WOMAN) are to be silent in the church (ourselves) and let our husband (CHRIST) teach US.
You will be persecuted in brick and mortar churches that only have worldly wisdom.
"And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God" Luke 1:35
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" John 1:14
"I am the bread of life.. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.."
I am the bread which came down from Heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world" John 6:48-51
"He can not deny himself" 2 Timothy 2:13
Carleton
Would the Love of God for sinners be seen in creating another human or animal (though perfect) to represent Him in sacrifice & prove His Love? It would be like saying, 'I don't want to risk my life to go out to save the drowning man; I would rather find another to do it for me'. Where is the true Love here?
Rather, for John 15:13 to reveal Jesus' Mind, we can only understand that Jesus was the One Who delighted to accomplish His Father's Will as a Man: John 6:38; Philippians 2:6-8.
So to the question: who is this Jesus & was He linked to Mary by blood thereby inheriting her sin nature? From the Scriptures just given, we see that Jesus is inextricably connected to God & came down from Heaven as God sent out His Word to be made human ( John 1:1,14). Can God (His Word made flesh) be found with a sin nature? To answer that, I referred you to 1 Corinthians 15:45-47. Here we saw that God's first creation (Adam) is of the Earth, earthy; the second Man is the Lord from Heaven" & He is referred to as the last Adam.
So God had determined two separate creations. The first one was created perfect but was deceived & sinned. The second One was created perfect, not from dust, but by the Spirit who took the Word & placed it in Mary to be brought into the World not as a man formed from & lying on the ground but as a Babe formed by the Spirit & issued through a woman.
"My Lord and my God" John 20:2
"He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest" Luke 1:32
"that Holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God" Luke 1:35
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16
"And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God" John 1:34
"This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" Matthew 3:17
"God sent his only begotten Son into the world" 1 John 4:9
"Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God" Matthew 16:16
"The Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world" 1 John 4:14
"And thou shall call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins" Matthew 1:21
"Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world" 1 Peter 1:20
"But when the fulness of the time was to come, God sent his Son" Galatians 4:4
"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" Isaiah 7:14
"Behold, thou shall conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shall call his name JESUS" Luke 1:31
"Then said Mary to the Angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?" Luke 1:34
"And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God" Luke 1:35
" Thou son of David, fear not to take Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost" Matthew 1:20
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" John 1:14
"I am the bread of life....This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from Heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world" John 6:48-51
But Jesus showed us to stay on the word.
John 6:33
Tells us God's word is spirit and life.
It's not soul and death.
So we don't have to understand it just believe it
The 70 weeks of 7= 490 years. 483 years when Jesus was baptized. History places this around 29AD. Jesus' ministry was 3 years by the number of Passovers Jesus went to according to scriptures. We are at 486 years. Stephen's death is recorded around 36AD. This is around the same time Jesus stopped confirming the New Covenant through is Apostils and Peter had his dream and went to Cornelius and the gospel went to the Gentiles.
This prophecy was determined upon Israel and Jerusalem not the world, and these six things were to be fulfilled. See for yourself if these were fulfilled by Jesus. 1 To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Hebrews 9:15-18) 2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( 1 John 3:5) ( Romans 8:3) 3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19) 4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) 5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) 6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 9:6-14).
The 3 years in Revelation starts when Satan is cast down and gives his power to the beast, not connected with the 70 weeks. If not clear its ok.
God bless Andrew, Ron
Are Jesus and God the same, or is Jesus God's Son?
How can I explain this to someone?
Tom
Revealed To From Our ABBA; J.E.S.U.S.= Jehovah s.e.n.t. Emmanuel 2 Save Us Sinners;
"J.E.H.O.V.A.H.= Jehovah, Emmanuel & Holy-Ghost, Verdict Against Humanity"
"Jehovah s.e.n.t. Emmanuel by Holy Ghost, Overshowed A Virgin named Mary 2 Atone Humanity" "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. "
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. "s,e,n,t,= Son / Saviour & Spirit 4 Emancipation 4 Eternal-Life N New Testament"
These scriptures show that believers cannot be taken away from Christ by the flesh, because the Spirit of God is dwelling within to prevent that from happening.
Jesus Himself said, as recorded in John 6:37, "All that the Father gives to me will come to me; and the one coming to me I will never cast out." He goes on to say, in John 6:39, "And this is the will of the Father who has sent me, in order that of all which he has given to me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up in the last day."
Also, in His prayer to the Father, as recorded in John 17:11-12, Jesus said, "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom you have given to me, in order that they may be one, as we are. When I was with them in the world, I was keeping them in your name; the ones who you have given to me I kept, and none of them perished, except the son of perdition; in order that the Scripture might be fulfilled."
I emphasize the permanency of salvation because the bible teaches that God is the one who saves and He does so from out of His mercy. According to Paul, in Ephesians 2:8, grace, faith, and salvation are gifted from God.
John says, in John 1:13, believers "were born, not from blood, nor from the will of the flesh, nor from the will of man, but from God." Therefore, according to Scripture, a human being cannot save him/herself.
We also know from Scripture that no one can keep himself saved. John teaches, in 1 John 5:18 (as recorded in the oldest Greek manuscripts), "We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin; but the one who has been born from God, God is keeping him and the evil one does not touch him."
I will have to break this up into more than one post. I will list each post as Part 1, Part 2, etc. I hope that you will read through this. Salvation is a very important issue, and we need to have assurance one way or another.
(Part 1)
You have touched upon a very important issue. Over the last 30 years or so, emphasis on the ability to save has been shifted from God to man. As a result, the permanency of salvation has been called into question, because this approach to salvation emphasizes that believing certain truths can save a person, and then that same person can subsequently lose his/her salvation by disbelieving those same truths.
However, the Bible clearly teaches that salvation is based solely on God's Spirit coming into the spirit of a human being; and in so doing, causing that person to become a new creation, a new person. A person's experience of regeneration by the Holy Spirit is an act of God, not of man.
Biblically, the salvation process begins with God the Father. Jesus said, in John 6:44, "No one is able to come to me unless the Father who has sent me should draw him; and I will raise him up in the last day." In John 3:3, Jesus says, "Unless anyone should be born from above, he is not able to see the kingdom of God."
Consequently, if the Father does not draw a person to Christ, that person cannot be saved. It is only after the Father has drawn someone to Christ, that the Spirit of Christ enters into the spirit of that person and spiritual birth takes place.
These same truths are taught by the Apostles. Paul, in Titus 3:5 wrote, "Not out of works in righteousness which we did, but according to His mercy He saved us, through washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Spirit."
Peter said, in 1 Peter 1:3, "Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the One who according to His great mercy has regenerated us again into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead."
30. We are sanctified or set apart as belonging to God. Heb. 10:10
31. We have peace with God. Rom. 5:1
32. We are made a part of the household of God. Eph 2:19
33. As living stones we are built into the spiritual house of God. I
Pet. 2:5; Eph. 2:20-22
34. We are given heavenly citizenship. Phil 3:20; Eph. 2:19
35. We are accepted in the Beloved. Eph 1:6
36. We are seated in the heavenlies in Christ. Eph. 2:6
37. Our life is hid with Christ in God. Col 3:3
38. We become new creatures in Christ. II Cor. 5:17;
Gal. 6:15; Eph. 2:10
39. We are exalted and glorified in Christ. Rom 8:30
40. We are redeemed and delivered from the law. Gal 3:13: Rom.
10:4
41. We become spiritual children of Abraham. Gal. 3:7
42. We become partakers of the blessings promised to Abraham. Gal 3:9, 29
43. All condemnation and judgment is lifted. Rom 8:1; John 3:18
44. We are delivered from the wrath to come. Rom 5:9;
I Thess. 5:
45. We enter in to spiritual rest of God. Heb 4:3, 9-10
46. We become brethren to Christ, our elder brother. Rom 3:29; Heb.2:11-12
47. We become partakers of the new covenant in Christ. Heb. 10:15-17
48. We become joint heirs with Christ. Rom 8:17; I Pet. 1:3-4; Tit
3:7; Col 1:12
49. Our names are recorded in the Lambs book of life. Luke 10:20;
Rev. 21:27
50. We are given by the Father to the Son as His eternal possession!
John 6:27-40
51. Our faith is counted as righteousness. Romans 4 verse 5.
In my experiences and perception, along with Scripture, you are correct. As of coarse He is our Lord and Eternal King. What started from a very personal experience with the Lord I was led to this answer in the Bible about Jesus being our brother. As when we are born again of the Spirit we are also children of God and joint-heirs with Christ. Romans 8:15-17. Some Scriptures about Jesus being our brother. These are for you:
Matthew 12:50
Romans 8:29
John 6:38
John 20:17
( 1 Corinthians 9:5
Hebrews 2:11
Hebrews 2:17
I hope that helps. God Bless.
So no answer to my one question? Thank you.
I never said I "reject" speaking in tongues of the Holy Ghost. I said I have no interest in this gift. Because I have relationship with the Father and speak/pray to Him in Spirit. I said God Bless them that have the gift of speaking in tongues of the Holy Ghost. You are twisting my words.
As it shows again in your previous post. Your zeal seems to be for a tongue. My zeal is for the love of God and to love one another as Jesus Christ taught us. To produce good fruit of the Spirit and do the will of our Father in Heaven.
So you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:2. So do I. What about 1 Corinthians 12:3-11. That states there are diversities in gifts of the Spirit. Read 1 Corinthians 12 again.
Are you saying that I, and others here, are "denying the power of Gods existence"? You know nothing about me and my relationship with the Father. What you are doing is damaging peoples faith and belief in God. Because not everyone who receives the Holy Ghost, and is born again in the Spirit, speaks in unknown tongues.
You can keep condemning us all you want but it shall not change the truth. You shall be held accountable for your words. Just as we all shall.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jesus Christ professing that the words He spake were spirit. Yet not of an unknown tongue.
Peace be with you.
The Bible IS meant to be read, studied, meditated on, discussed, acted on and obeyed. And probably many other action verbs.
It is The Word of God. Jesus said, "If ye love me, keep my commandments."Joh 14:15. How can you know what His commandments are unless you read the whole thing?
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul:
the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart:
the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever:
the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold:
sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Moreover by them is thy servant warned:
and in keeping of them there is great reward.
Who can understand his errors?
cleanse thou me from secret faults.
Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins;
let them not have dominion over me:
then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
Psalm 19:7-14
If you got a love letter from your fianc, would you just open it up and randomly read a sentence and then put it away until you wanted another shot of love? No! I can tell that you're excited about becoming Mrs. Basile Johns III, and have devoured every bit of knowledge about what he likes and doesn't like and dozens, neigh scores if not hundreds of things about him that enchant you.
What of The Love Letter, so to speak, from God, that tells of His love for us and the extent to which He has and is going and what He is preparing for us and how He wants you and me to be ambassadors for Him. Can you imagine that?!
Read it every day not just going to where you are lead, using it like a ouija board.
are lead .. a scripture came to me when i was a new christian... in church.. then it just spoke to me as if it was in charge not necessarily the one at the pulpit.
Remember, it's not just going through some formula to be saved from sin - salvation comes from a deep sorrow for your sin & your desire to turn away from such a life & finding forgiveness & a new life only through Jesus, God's Son. Read those verses given there & if you don't understand anything, please write again so that we can explain it to you. It is your full belief in what God has done for you that gives you salvation & NOT by what you can do for God. We can never do anything that could cause God to forgive us - He could only forgive us on His Terms & that is, His Son gave His Life in your place so you could be forgiven. Think deeply on these things & follow through with a true repentant heart before God. He will hear your cry to Him & He will forgive you.
John 6:37: "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." You can rest on that Promise directly from Jesus to you.
When they consider John 6:48-58, they believe that Jesus spoke to the people of having to actually partake of His Body & Blood so that their sins may be forgiven & His Life & Blessing may be transmitted through them. That these elements mystically change during the Mass & re-convert afterwards, continue to give their adherents this belief that they are truly partaking of Christ Himself. Apart from being a false understanding of what the Lord was saying (e.g. when He spoke of the Living Water), this belief, along with many others, holds RCs solidly to the Church, lest by leaving her, they should fall from the Grace of God. And that is why for any leaving that Church, would be an extremely difficult decision to make, both in their mental & spiritual areas. But once free, they are free indeed.
And RCs will readily admit to Christ's physical presence in Heaven, yet for the purpose of the Mass, the elements can be changed & received as such. Even while sitting with His disciples at the Last Supper, Jesus spoke about this matter with them ( Matthew 26:26-28): He was physically present, when they partook of the bread & wine, none of Jesus' Body & Blood were missing, but yet the RC remains convinced that even at the Table, those elements changed mystically.
So, I wonder whether we can make an accusation against them of sacrificing Christ at every occasion of the Mass. It really is their misunderstanding of what Jesus spoke & intended for His disciples to comprehend & practise & their compelling others to be deceived by such a belief.
John 10:27-30; John 3:3,16,36; John 5:24; John 6:37,39; 1 John 5:13; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Ephesians 1:13,14; Philippians 1:6; Romans 8:29,30,38,39.
But the long answer is found in the reading of the whole Epistle of John. I can't share it in depth, but if you read it carefully with some things in mind, you'll receive much confirmation & blessing to your heart. There are four main reasons the Apostle John gives for writing this letter: 1 John 1:4, "These things write we unto you, that your joy may be full"; 1 John 2:1: "These things write I unto you, that ye sin not"; 1 John 2:26: "These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you"; and 1 John 5:13: "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."
As you read this epistle, keeping in mind those four reasons for writing given by John (i.e. for the fullness of your joy, to abstain from sin, be aware of & reject false teaching, and to know for sure that eternal life is your possession both now & into eternity), the Spirit Who inspired these Truths, will confirm to your heart that what has taken place in your life, is not false or wasted, but done in God's Power & Plan for you. Heaven is your present possession - walk on joyfully. The Lord bless you.
If you sense that your faith is lukewarm, your life's path has gone off course or the ministry of God's Spirit is all but absent leaving you destitute of joy, assurance & hope, then you need to come back to the Lord. He ever calls - He ever waits for His children to realize how far they have strayed & how close He is to receive them back. Remember the prodigal son story? How the son's father longed for & waited for his son's return ( Luke 15:11-24). What joy the father had to receive his son back as one from the dead. Likewise, God (& all of Heaven) awaits & rejoices when a sinner or one who has strayed away comes back into the fold of Christ.
Talk freely, openly from your heart to God about where you have failed him. Confess to Him (through the Sacrifice of His Son Jesus) that you have come to a point of total hopelessness & grief for leaving God & you're so sorry to have done this & failed Him. He does hear & understands all you've been through & His Spirit has brought you to this point of realization & confession. "Him (or, her) that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out" is Jesus' Promise for you ( John 6:37). And also "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." ( 1 John 1:9). These are the sure promises from God's Word that He will receive all who come in humility & sincerity before Him.
After you confess all before God, His Spirit will minister to you, maybe at that instance or in the moments ahead. You will have the joy of sins forgiven & being accepted. You will want to spend more time talking with your Heavenly Father & reading from His Word to learn more of Him & of what He wants from your life. Feed on that "Living Bread" Jesus Christ - give Him first place in everything you do.
"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life
As well, we see in Scripture that people prayed to Jesus. You can look at these verses: 1 Corinthians 1:1,2 (calling upon the Lord Jesus' Name); 2 Corinthians 12:8,9 (Paul's thorn in the flesh); John 9:38 (Jesus was worshipped); Revelation 5:8-13 (Jesus worshipped in Heaven as God is); Acts 7:59; Acts 9:6 & many more.
And No, you don't need to speak in other tongues to experience re-birth. Re-birth is effected by God's Spirit as soon as you realize that you're a sinner & that the only hope of your forgiveness & salvation is by coming to the Cross of Christ where He gave His Life in your place. Once you repent of your sins, calling upon the Name of the Lord ( Romans 10:13), God hears your prayer (because it was He by His Spirit that drew you to this point of anguish & need to be saved). And 'all who come to Him He will in no wise cast away, or reject' ( John 6:37). God then indwells you by His Spirit making you a new woman with a clean heart with new & holy desires to please Him with your life. His Spirit also gives us gifts, some to speak with new tongues, & other gifts ( 1 Corinthians 12:7-11. Also see verses 28-31), but to speak in other languages is not a requirement or proof of your rebirth experience & of the Holy Spirit in you. A changed life, heart, will & true love for all, characterize a Christian.
John 6:63 ....... the words that I ( 1 Peter 1:11,the Spirit of Christ or 1 Peter 1:21,the Holy Ghost or 2 Samuel 23:1-2, the Spirit of the Lord or Revelation 19:10,the words of Jesus) speak unto you, they (words) are spirit, and they (words) are life.
The day of the Lord is prophecy about a spiritual day; but, a day in spiritual time is not necessarily a day in natural time ( 2 Peter 3:8).
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterwards (after the day of the Lord), that I (Spirit) will will pour my spirit upon all flesh......
Since the Spirit (Holy Ghost) was poured out on all mankind at pentecost; therefore, the day of the Lord begin at pentecost and is continuing to this day 2000 years later in natural time; but, only one day in spiritual time.
Second witness:
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon (symbolic of Christ)..... Psalm 89:35-36 And it (the throne of Christ, from the proceeding verse) shall be established forever as the moon, and as a FAITHFUL WITNESS in heaven...... Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the FAITHFUL WITNESS.......into blood before the terrible (wonderful) day of the Lord (pentecost) come.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he (the Lamb) had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth hair, and the moon (symbolic of Christ) became as blood.....
Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:51 ........and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent.
John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there blood and water.
Revelation 8:1 And when he (the Lamb) had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half hour (spiritual time not natural time)
This time was the time between Christ resurrection and the day of the Lord (pentecost)
Daniel 12:11-12 45 days between vs 11 and 12
Those were lovely pertinent Scriptures you quoted from John 6:32 onwards & Luke 12:31. As we feast on Him our Living Bread, He will feed us with what we need & will satisfy us completely. Jeremiah 33:3: "Call unto me (says the Almighty), and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not." Many have not even begun to taste the extent of the Lord's Goodness, simply because they have not, in faith, called out to Him. He delights to hear his children call on Him & He delights to answer them & reveal His Mighty Arm of Power & Love. May the Lord be very close to you in your journey with Him & supply you with what you need to be His overcomer.