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  • William M Patterson on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    hello, so in verse 17 where it reads "and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written"

    does that mean we are given a new name?

    or what is the new name he's referring too?
  • Mishael - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    Welcome Elijah. I like your name.
  • Elijah Wiaka on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    God bless you all.
  • Andy G van den Berg - In Reply on Psalms 34 - 5 years ago
    The soul and body will not reach their destination in peace, because the carnal mind is enmity with God ( Romans 8:6).

    For that reason every believer is chastened of the Lord ( Hebrews 12:5-12, Revelation 3:17-19), in order to overcome the flesh and our sinful nature ( Revelation 2:7,11,17,26; 3:5,12,21; 21:7).
  • WHO WERE THE NICOLAITANS on Matthew 18:20 - 5 years ago
    Who Were the Nicolaitans, And What Was Their Doctrine and Deeds?

    But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Revelation 2:6

    Have you ever wondered who the "Nicolaitans" were, mentioned in the book of Revelation? Whoever they were, Jesus loathed their doctrine and hated their deeds. Let's delve into this subject today to see if we can ascertain the identity of this group. What was their damnable doctrine? What deeds were they committing that elicited such a strong reaction from Jesus?

    Let's begin in Revelation 2:6, where Jesus told the church of Ephesus, "But this thou hast [in your favor], that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

    Jesus was proud of the church of Ephesus for their "hatred" of the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which He also "hated."

    The word "hate" is a strong word, so let's see exactly what it means. It comes from the Greek word miseo, which means to hate, to abhor, or to find utterly repulsive. It describes a person who has a deep-seated animosity, who is antagonistic to something he finds to be completely objectionable. He not only loathes that object, but rejects it entirely. This is not just a case of dislike; it is a case of actual hatred.

    The thing Jesus hated about them was their "deeds." The word "deeds" is the Greek word erga, which means works. However, this word is so all-encompassing that it pictures all the deeds and behavior of the Nicolaitans; including their actions, beliefs, conduct, and everything else connected to them.

    Search the TITLE of this article on Renner dot org to read the whole thing. Mishael
  • Adriann - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15 - 5 years ago
    1 cor. 15:18....... Romans 6:23 the wages of sin is death. We muat come to repentance. We must keep the laws statutes and Commandments in ordinances of the most high. John 14:15 if you love me you will keep my Commandments. Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law. The word end in the the Strong's Concordance means purpose or aim. He is coming back for his ELECT, ROMANS 11:7.. come to repentance in accordance with the word John 14:6 and you will not die the second death , you will be changed to Spirit and put on immortality.All praises to the Yahawah bahasham Yahawahshi. . See 2 Esdras 6:54-56. The children of Israel are Hebrews the abrahamic Covenant of Genesis 17 and 7 says if you will keep my law statutes Commandments in ordinances I will be your God and you will be my people. The 12 tribes of Israel all people of color only. According to Revelation 21 + 12 the Kingdom of Heaven is only Built For The 12 Tribes of Israel only. The letter J does not exist in the Hebrew language I'll father's name yahawah means he is he exists in Hebrew. Yahawahshi in hebrew means he is our salvation and deliver.er. Deuteronomy 28 48 + 49 the children of Israel was sent into slavery was a yoke of iron upon their neck. Only slaves ever had a yoke of iron around their neck that's a people of color. Revelation 1:15 Daniel 10:6 the son of man has skin that is liking until bronze burned in a furnace which is a dark brown skin man. This is the truth John 14:6 of these scriptures. Revelation 5:5 the son of man is no doubt the root of David tribe of Judah. Revelation 2:9 I know thy works thy tribulation and thy poverty but Thou Art rich and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not for they are synagogue of Satan see also Revelation 3:9.
  • Yahudah1959 on Isaiah 53 - 5 years ago
    I have yet to see anyone admitting whom the true Israelites of Scripture are, and where they are located. Why is that ? Revelation 2:9, clearly states whom they are not. So, who are these people ?
  • Andy G van den Berg on Revelation 25 on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

    The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translateed from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

    It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

    You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

    It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

    LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH
  • Hazel Carty on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    rescue the perishing care for the ding he snatch us with in pity from sin unto grace

    by faith we have made hole put your trust in God,
  • Greg - In Reply on Hebrews 2 - 5 years ago
    Bendito Palavra

    Concerning the Law;

    The everlasting Law God established with those that desire to be called His children still stands.

    The 10 Commandments still stand.

    Any time we sin we are under the Law.

    Everyone sins: Everyday!

    Blood ordinances were fulfilled by the death of Christ ( Matthew 26:28, Romans 2:29, Colossians 1:14)

    Priestly duties connected to the sons of Aaron were fulfilled in Christ. ( Hebrews 8:1)

    The Temple was destroyed; as promised: ( Matthew 24:2)

    Deuteronomy 29:29

    "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children FOR EVER, that we may do all the words of this law."

    1 Chronicles 16:17

    "And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an EVERLASTING covenant,"

    Ephesians 2:15

    "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ORDINANCES; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

    Hebrews 7:12

    "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."

    Matthew 27:51

    "And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;"

    All has not been fulfilled.

    All will not be fulfilled until the return of Christ.

    Believe the words of Jesus.

    Mathew 5:18

    "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

    Concerning works;

    Why would Jesus care to evaluate the WORKS of the churches that are on earth at the end times when He comes back if they don't matter? ( Revelation 2:2, 9, 13, 19. 3:1, 3:8, 3:15)

    Also look at:

    James 2:14-26 - "Faith without works is dead"

    Revelation 14:13

    Revelation 20:12
  • Greg - In Reply on Revelation 20 - 5 years ago
    Eva Rabon,

    The good people and the bad people go through the great tribulation.

    Matthew 10:22

    1 Corinthians 15:52

    Revelation 2:26
  • Bendito Palavra - In Reply on Acts 17 - 5 years ago
    Some of my favorites:

    John chapter 16 is Jesus preparing his disciples for difficulty, ending with "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." (verse 33).

    Acts 14:22 is an exhortation to continue in the faith through tribulation.

    Romans chapter 8 is Paul's testimony on hardship and the believer's victory in Christ Jesus.

    Revelation 2:8-11 is Jesus encouraging the suffering Church.

    Revelation 7:9-17 shows us a great multitude come out of tribulation, redeemed by the blood of the lamb.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

    Pray this prayer with sincerity of heart

    "Dear God, I believe in you and that your Son, Jesus Christ, is Lord. I believe in His sacrifice for my sins and His resurrection from the dead. I repent and ask forgiveness for my sins and I'm deciding now to follow you. Please, come into my life through the gift of your Holy Spirit. It is in the Lord Jesus' name that I ask and receive, Amen."

    The Bible says doing these things with sincerity means you are a Christian (Christ follower) and will have eternal life in heaven.

    "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13

    (Use caution in trusting your feelings, as feelings change. Stand on God's promises- they never change.)
  • Mishael - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    John 3
  • Greg - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    Olivia,

    I hear you.

    I am as worried as you are.

    That stuff is real and coming soon.

    Keep the Faith.

    Pray a lot.

    Vote.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    The other thief on the cross wanted Jesus to save them both by the means of this world.

    He was rejected.

    Remember Lot's Wife.

    By love.
  • Olivia - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    I don't want to go back and forth Chris. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to understand and make it make sense. If they break down your door and say they are taking you and family because you guys refused to take the "vaccine" chip and then they take you to a fema camp then kill you and your family then what? When you possibly could've avoided it by fighting back?..... its crazy I know but I need most is God and to protect my babies.!
  • Olivia - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    Hey Chris. Yes that helped to a point but if you wanted to protect yourself and they bust in in the middle of the night, you can't use a gun or something to protect yourself and your children? no matter if your going to win or not? That makes no sense.
  • Olivia - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    No i haven't. But what does that have to do with the question I asked?
  • Mishael - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    Chito or Cheeto?

    I like chili cheese fritoes
  • Jacolby Bonez - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    Did you hear the reviews from that chito Mexican gang about the word of God SPOKEN with Authority and a spice of grace over at 12 stones CHURCH a while back? Classic.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 5 years ago
    Adam where does the Bible say that those in the modern day claiming to be Jews are indeed who they say they are?

    Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    2nd witness of Jesus in Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Jews are going to worship at the feet of Christians.

    Did you know the Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL?

    Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."

    John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    How can anyone tell me that those who have the wrath of God against them for rejecting the Son is the "chosen people"

    King James Bible Jesus speaks to some of the Jews in John 10:23 - 29:And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the JEWS (THE JEWS) round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.

    Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

    "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you."

    But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    Looks to me that those who hear the voice of Jesus are true sheep or the chosen people.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 5 years ago
    Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    Just cause someone claims to be a jew does not make it so and the middle east is full of them.

    1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
  • Greg - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 5 years ago
    Bob Hilt,

    Our job is to love and teach, not judge.

    The disdain you have for our brothers (the Jews) is palpable.

    If the Jews are cursed, what do we do with Acts 28:26-28?

    Do we believe what Luke says?

    Last I checked, those that killed the prophets "SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN" ( Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9).

    "SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT"

    "SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT"

    Do we believe the words of John?

    People can say they believe in anything they want. Show me your works and I will see your faith!

    The JEWISH high priest appointed by the Roman Governor that condemned Jesus was "of the synagogue of Satan," not a Jew.

    You say "ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist;" again, I would refer you to ( Acts 28:26-28).

    What about Muslims, Hindus, etc.? They deny God AND Jesus.

    Jews follow God. Last I checked, that was Jesus' Father also.

    As far as most of the Jews being from Eastern Europe and Russia, I am not sure the point you are trying to make.

    Most of us don't know our ancestry more than a few generations.

    How do you really know your ancestors aren't from Europe or Russia; and could have even been Jewish!
  • Re-Commitment Prayer by Mishael - In Reply - 5 years ago
    It means return to your first love when you First met Jesus. The scripture is in Revelation 2:4

    Just compare your life today to those first days when you first asked Jesus to come in your heart. You read your Bible. You asked the Holy Spirit to help you understand what you have read. He's your Teacher, and the Spirit of Jesus; your Comforter; your Convictor when you make mistakes, your Helper. He's here for you.

    Just pray this prayer to return to your first Love:

    Lord, after what I've read today, I don't want to allow any spirit of compromise in my life! I now understand that the doctrine of the Nicolaitans is compromise with the world. Lord, I don't want to live with one foot in the church and another foot in the world. I want to break free completely from the world and its influence so I can give myself completely to Your cause! I want to be holy, to live in a way that pleases You, and to experience Your power in my life.

    Today I am renewing my commitment to You all over again! I turn from the world, and I am running to You! I will follow you.

    I pray this in Jesus' name!
  • Re-Commitment Prayer by Mishael - In Reply - 5 years ago
    It means return to your first love when you First met Jesus. The scripture is in Revelation 2:4

    Just compare your life today to those first days when you first asked Jesus to come in your heart. You read your Bible. You asked the Holy Spirit to help you understand what you have read. He's your Teacher, and the Spirit of Jesus; your Comforter; your Convictor when you make mistakes, your Helper. He's here for you.

    Just pray this prayer to return to your first Love:

    Lord, after what I've read today, I don't want to allow any spirit of compromise in my life! I now understand that the doctrine of the Nicolaitans is compromise with the world. Lord, I don't want to live with one foot in the church and another foot in the world. I want to break free completely from the world and its influence so I can give myself completely to Your cause! I want to be holy, to live in a way that pleases You, and to experience Your power in my life.

    Today I am renewing my commitment to You all over again! I turn from the world, and I am running to You! I will follow you.

    I pray this in Jesus' name!
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    Olivia, I believe you're referring to a comment initiated by Maryann a couple of months ago. If that is the case, I was addressing the matter of non-violence & non-retaliation, as prescribed in God's Word. Take time to read the following Scriptures: Matthew 5:38-44; Luke 6:27-38; and Romans 12:14-21.

    So, these portions of Scripture tell us how Christians are to behave or respond when trouble comes our way. However, we should do all in our power to protect ourselves, our children & our property from wicked perpetrators. But what the Bible teaches is that we must not go on the attack, or repay evil with evil, or in any way do what Christ would not do. The only ones empowered by God to pronounce judgement & give out a penalty is the government. Often even they don't administer it correctly, but that is another matter.

    Maybe your question is: "then how can we protect ourselves?" Are we talking about the authorities under instruction from an anti-Christian govt. coming to take you & your children because of your faith? Then I doubt neither you nor I could do much at all given their position & strength. We need to submit & trust God for the outcome. Or else, what would be your plans to oppose them? Using a gun? How far would that get you against the police or army?

    But if you're thinking of a criminal breaking into your house or accosting you on the street, then you are authorized by law to protect yourself, but restricted by the amount of force used. Then again, how does one know what crime is intended to be committed? Does any of this help you, or have I missed your point?
  • Olivia on Revelation 2:10 - 5 years ago
    Chris, so your saying to not retaliate when they take us and our children out of our homes? Just let them take us?
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 5 years ago
    If Jews considered Jesus to be a great prophet they would have to believe his claim to being God.

    then they would cease to be a Jew and be a Christian.

    But the Noahide laws only exists in the minds of Rabbis.

    The Noahide laws are not in the Bible and yes I agree with you that I do not like the Kabbalah "Jews" who

    interpret these so called non biblical laws.

    Look into Kabbalah, the soul of Judaism and see what most believe who claim to be "Jews"

    it matches the synagogue of satan description of Jesus in Revelation 2:9 exactly.
  • John L - In Reply on Mark 16:15 - 5 years ago
    Bob Hilt,

    Again, it seems that you may be confusing "Jews" with children of the Devil.

    As YOU state.... These people CLAIM CLAIM CLAIM to be Jews. They are LYING LYING LYING.

    The words you quote concerning Jews are those CLAIMING, CLAIMING, CLAIMING, to be Jews.

    What does Jesus say concerning those CLAIMING CLAIMING CLAIMING to be Jews? THEY ARE LYING. They are of the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN ( Revelation 2:9, 3:9). No longer Jews; and may never had been.

    What is their fruit? People are judged by words and actions.

    A Christian that stops believing in Jesus is no longer a Christian.

    People of any descent or country origin can live in the land of Judea and be called an inhabitant of the land of Judea; a Jew.

    Just as a person of any descent or country origin living in the land of New York can be called a New Yorker.

    Most God fearing Jews consider Jesus to at the very least be a great prophet. They do not dismiss the writings of the NT as "the most evil and antisemitic book ever written, and Jesus the most evil of them all." Those are words that sound like they would come from the mouth of a child of Satan.

    I find no issue with the 7 Noahide general laws.

    The seven Noahide laws as traditionally enumerated are the following:

    Not to worship idols.

    Not to curse God.

    To establish courts of justice.

    Not to commit murder.

    Not to commit adultery, bestiality, or sexual immorality.

    Not to steal.

    Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.

    Do you have a problem with abiding by any of these laws?

    I have issue with the interpretation of them by children of the synagogue of Satan that skews them.

    Man screws everything up.

    We DISCERN, we do not JUDGE.


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