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Amen Michael,

God bless,

RLW.

Thank you very much, now I understand.

2 Tess 1 God Bless u and yours in Jesus name.

Gen.9.5-6"Sacrifice"

"At the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man./Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man."

Here the Spirit is setting the kern or heart of the everlasting Covenant: it is Person specific. Noah as the heir of the new world is set in the image of his Son, and his burnt sacrifice, was a prelude to this injunction on man's blood. "And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake."(8.21); The Spirit expresses 'for man's sake meaning his Son,-so He says in his heart, that the cusrse shall be lifted because of his perfect sacrifice. Additional clue we have in v.6 referring to the covenant. 'In the image of God made he man.' As an husbandman it is what Noah sets out to do. The earth was without form and void and we have in the true Vine motif, the Spirit sets Noah as the word become flesh. He did not bring seed to grow a vineyard but in faith he was working with the seed of the incorruptible word already sown by the word of God.

"These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread."

Now I understand what you mean. I referred in my comment in a different context than you assume. The heresy of Israel being special that in their falling back the church was grafted in but Israel being natural olive tree shall continue as special, as though nothing occurred. Dispensationalists uphold it and I as referring it to S Spencer indirectly. it quite went past his head. Leave that aside.

The analogy of the olive tree in Rom.11 does not make the kingdom of his dear Son to a tree. Those who have been planted by God shall produce fruits for the glory of God. Jesus referring to Israel says, what God has not planted shall be rooted up. (Mt.15.13). Heresy is in making a not so good analogy in order to sidestep the more serious condemnation of rejecting Jesus and claim, we have no king but Caesar.'

What thoughts is your organization about the claim of the original 88 Books of the Ethiopian completed unedited Bible.

It's said this is the Original Bible that King James Version was edited from this Bible around the 6th Century .

John 11:25

"Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:"

Blessings

Hallo again, peace u wrote this. I want u to find this word in the Bible to me. :

allow Israel, despite his Son casting them into outer darkness, be brought back. That is something for you to think about.

GBU

Gen.8.20 "Burnt offering"

"And Noah builded an altar unto theLord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar."

The Spirit sets series of images shuttling from the old world to the new world in the symbolism of the ark to a new world where mount Ararat is the cue telling us as in the dramaturgy where the actors shall make their entry. Time elapsed is indicated by the motives of the raven and the dove whichwe have discussed earlier so we shall move the new world fully stocked with the goodness of the Lord .Where did all the wood come for making a fire or implements to lit are not for us to presume. While Prophet slept undera juniper tree, an angel wakes him up, "Behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Ariseandeat./And he looked, and, behold,there wasa cake baken on the coals, and a cruse of water at his head.,"( 1 Kgs 19.5-6). There are quite a few instances to instruct us our world is shot through the consequence of the word sent by God before the worlds began.

Be that as it may God has the context ready for man to walk before God as perfect as his Son did. It is thus Noah settles down to be a husbandman. Adam was a tiller of the ground from which he was taken. In the new world Noah serves as the Father as he is rightfully designated as pre-eminent of his generation. "These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations."(6.9) The HolySpirit refers to him as perfect. So he serves as the Father and he is also double for his Son who is 'the heir of all things'. Noah anticipates the parable of 'I am the true Vine.' When King Melchizadek brought bread and wine to Abraham it was the validation of blessing under the everlasting Covenant. The same blessing of God we find going from generations of Noah to Abraham. Notice the blessing in 9.1 is repeated in v.7.

The sign of the rainbw in the clouds affirms the heavenly blessings on man. (Eph.1.3)

Gen.9.15 "Remember"

"And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh." God is referring to the same covenant where God uses the expression, 'after our image' and Noah as the double for his Son also shall serve as 'after our likeness'. In the beginning the Word was God, 'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God.' The elohim aspect of God declares and it is sound as wel as a sign. Thus the will of God, the unseen world frames the world made to appear. The heavens declare the glory of God and when God introduced the firmament he called it heaven. He sanctified his Son. Soul of man is a confirmation that Jesus Christ is indeed the Word and shall be sent to the world, as his only begotten Son. When Jesus in human likeness cursed the fig tree it presently withered away. (Mt.21.19). The tree did not acknowledge the deity of Christ.

On another occasion, "And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened./And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain." ( Mk 7.34-35)

He sighed and we have emotions associated with invisible God; and it is is associated with the word of God. God sent his word, and delivered them from their destructions' (Ps.107.20). The eternal word is inerrant. Fall of man has created this deaf mute to which Jesus addresses as the word become flesh. The sign works equally as the sound that went forth from God. In the light of this we have this verse,"And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."(Gen.6.6).This proves his claim, "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work."( Jn 5.17) How God the Son fulfils the will of the Father is in terms of the Word that was with God. "And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature... upon the earth.". Thus a rainbow serves as a sign.

Gen.9.9-12 'The Covenant'

And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;"

The covenant is the same but God specifies 'your seed' which sets his generation in direct frame of reference to that of Jesus Christ. Here Noah is after our likeness so the word shall produce a holy family born of the incorruptible seed. This covenant does not change so his blessing on his creation extends by association to his sons 'after our image" In short through the genealogy of generations his creations shall be tied to man as was stipulated in the case of Adam."And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

Everlasting Covenant established by the blood of Jesus is perpetual. Fall of man did not leave his association with His creation out of it. They are as affected as man. "For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God./ For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,/ Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God./For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now." (Rom.8.19-22)

Gen.6.18-22 "Establish the covenant"

"But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee."

God found Noah righteous so he walked with God, so to speak. His upper limit in the world of the Spirit was God.He in his earthly tabernacle had 'heavenly places as well. " But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord./These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God."(vv.8-9).

'And thou shall come into the ark" and Noah obeyed. Here the Spirit is referring to the day Seven in the everlasting Covenant. Gen.2.3 "And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." While the great flood purged the earth by water here we have Noah continuing with the rest God had instituted. In this who was Noah but the forerunner of his Son? The same rest we are called to enjoy by abiding in Christ. While the circus of ungodly men without hawking their wares, selling dubious merchandise they are unknown to them sliding into their destruction we are safe. This is what 'establishing my covenant would mean. Without works what is faith? Either you are within the ark or you perish.

Dear Free,

You write,'and give me the Word where it says it. I have never heard this before,' Can you tell me what you are referring to?

Oh S Spencer,

I have no dialogue with man other than with my God and with my dear ones near at home and abroad. Rest assured, I leave you at that,

Jesus says in this chptr. 'The Father is Greater than I'

Truth,Justice,Life n Light are Greater, than lies corruption death and darkness

in similar way,when a light is turned On in a room

darkness is expelled

its evryones personal choice to turn the Jesus light On

or be left in the dark

(2 John Part 7b):

2 John 1:13 Continued

Even in 1 Corinthians Chapter 5, where there was one man in the church in Corinth that was committing sexual immorality, and Paul says you're not doing anything about it. Don't you know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? One person living in un-repented sin in a church affects the whole church. Just think of how much effect it has on a church if you have 1,000 people show up.

When our main goal is "numbers," there will always be problems. In the early church, they wouldn't let any single church get larger than 10 to 15 people, because then people would notice you, and they were trying to hide from all the persecution and meet privately. But also, because 10 to 15 people were about all a person could really pastor and keep track of all week long, so that people could help each other that are within the fellowship.

We push in the opposite direction, and we bring the leaven into the church. We bring in the false teaching into the church because we want to get as many people in there as possible, when in reality, from day one, the church was for Christians to get fed and to grow. That doesn't mean the church can't evangelize and preach the gospel message. But the church was specifically for God's people, to feed them. And we've lost our way!

In 3 John, he's going to minister to another fellow by the name of Gaius who has a church in his home. But there's somebody in that fellowship that basically has taken this commandment too far: don't let anybody stay in your home that's come from John.

And so, when John sent out people to these various churches to minister to them, this one guy says don't house John's helpers.

So, John's going to have some things to say to him. And then after we get finished with that, we'll take the one chapter of Jude. Some believe Jude is the most powerful book in the bible. It is very powerful, and we'll study about false teaching in the last days.

Blessings to you all in Christ!

(2 John Part 7a):

2 John 1:13 - The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.

Then he says, the children of your elect sister greet you. Amen. Nothing about the sister, but the children of the elect sister. The ones who were with John greet her. And it is believed that whoever the elect sister is, she's either not there, or she has deceased.

One of the reasons that causes us to interpret this as a real person is because it is written to someone who houses people in their home, not to the whole church type of a thing, even though it would apply to everyone.

But children are children of God, not children of the church. So, if the sister is the church, and her children are the members of the church, that wouldn't fit with correct doctrine. People are not children of the church. They're children of God. There are many different approaches that people take, but the teaching section remains the same, and it remains for us.

For many years now, the "public" church opens up the body of Christ to the non-believers, and the heretics, and everybody else to come in. And there's nothing you can do about it, not unless they cause a disturbance. You can ask them to leave, but they don't have to leave because it's a public church. It's illegal to kick them out!

I know of a pastor who was approached and told that there was some immoral activity going on in his congregation, right there in the church service. And he said he knew about it but he couldn't do anything because they would sue him! So, we have this problem today. And I look at the early church, and how the scripture says don't let them in your house if they don't have the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ.

But yet, there's a philosophy and a mentality today that that's what church is for. Bring in all the non-believers, and all the quacks, and all the false whatever's, and we'll preach the gospel to them. Well, what do you do when they stay around, and they propagate their own false teachings?

(2 John Part 6):

2 John 1:12 - Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.

So, he says I'm writing this because this is urgent. Don't let anybody in your house that does not carry the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ. But it's interesting that he says I write with paper and ink. Actually, the leaves of the papyrus plants in Egypt were used like paper, what we know as paper.

And they used to make ink out of soot and water, mixed with resin gum to make it hard, sort of like a chalk stick. And they would write on this papyrus paper leaf. He says I'm writing to you on the papyrus with ink, but I trust to come to you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.

(2 John Part 5):

2 John 1:10 - If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

That last phrase, neither bid him God speed, means do not speak greetings. Receive him not into your house, neither speak greetings to him. Now that's pretty harsh! But if you remember, the church met in the homes. But especially this elect lady, she was hospitable towards traveling teachers and preachers.

She had to find out what their doctrine was and if they did not hold to the doctrine of Jesus Christ, as taught by Christ and the apostles, she was not to let them into her home. In our day and time, people might say that this is not showing love. But that is John's whole point here. We as believers, we compromise with the truth for the sake of love. But that's not divine love.

2 John 1:11 - For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

The word partaker is the word KOINONIA which means fellowship, fellowship with their evil works. Now that's pretty heavy! What he's saying is that truth and love go hand in hand. You cannot compromise with the truth and say "Well, we don't agree on the truth, but we'll just love one another!"

Remember what John said at the beginning, I love my children who walk in truth. They are inseparable. God's divine love only loves in the truth, period! And we're doing others and ourselves a grave disservice by compromising with the truth for the sake of what we call love, so that we don't offend anyone.

What kind of love is that anyways if I have to compromise with the truth and you die in your sins? We have to ask ourselves, is it really love if we compromise with the truth so that that person doesn't get offended in the truth of Christ? We're supposed to represent the truth of Christ, and His love.

(2 John Part 4):

2 John 1:9 - Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Whosoever transgresses, and abides (MENO) not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. Does not have God!

A person is called a transgressor that's going beyond. The Gnostics went beyond the teachings of Jesus Christ, or the doctrine of Christ. And they went beyond the teachings of the apostles. They didn't remain in the doctrine of Christ but went in another direction. John says they do not have God.

He that abides, (Present Participle), the one who is abiding continuously in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son. Uh oh! The Gnostics don't believe the Father and the Son go together, or as one. Here we go again!

Jesus said, the Father judges no man, but has given all judgement to the Son, that as all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. If you do not honor the Son, you honor not the Father who has sent Him. They go together. You cannot separate them. You cannot give the Father honor and not the Son. And you can't give the Son honor and not the Father.

John 5:18 says therefore the Jews sought to kill Him because He not only had broken the Sabbath day, but said also that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. They knew! Some might say, "Well, I wouldn't have gotten that out of that." That's because ours is in an English translation.

The way it is understood in the Middle East, when Jesus said my Father works today, and I work, He's saying the Father and I are one. So, they sought to kill Him because it says He made Himself equal to God. Jesus could have told them "No, no, you guys misunderstood me," because that's blasphemy to call Him God.

But He didn't do that, because He is God! And they sought to kill Him. So, the person who is abiding in the correct doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.

Bennymkje.

I didn't understand anything you said in either of your messages to me nor do I see what Israel has to do with anything we talked about.

If you are trying to start a dialog on a separate subject with all due respect I am not interested at this time.

Thanks.

Dear "Hemon" Thank you for your question. Once when God created the world He wanted us to be many on earth. (Exodus).

When we were created, we were also created in His image. He knows every bird that falls to the ground, and He knows every hair on your head! :) So God knows about all living things. Also what is meant to become life.

Jeremiah 1:5

It is serious, so the love that is formed in a womb should not be shaken or destroyed.

It is the evil one who wants to take our lives. Also the lives that are not born. The devil stands against all of God's work, he will never stop doing it. We as Christians must stand against all his attempts. Therefore we must seek God, cry out Jesus save me!

So yes it is a sin and have an abortion.

Example: You know if a young girl were to get pregnant at 14 or thereabouts. In love, parents and family, state and municipality should help this young girl in every way. Instead of suggesting abortion. Because in love, which can withstand anything. Cor 13 Should it be possible after a while to continue school etc. And children who enrich life so much. And children who enrich life so much. But it is clear as day that it can be challenging for everyone involved. But shouldn't an abortion also be challenging?

Hope this helps. May the Lord bless you and yours in the holy name of Jesus Christ. Col3:1-17

Thank you Mother Mac,

I am feeling improved today. I am thankful for that. I can function much better without too much pain. I am grateful that you pray for me. We can lean into Christ and find rest.

Hello again Bennymkje,

What I am experiencing is not a migraine although occipital neuralgia and migraines often present in similar symptoms. Both ca be due to stress. But with what I have, it is more often related to osteoarthritis in the C vertebrae, which I have and it is quite progressed. And it is related to inflamed muscles, ligaments due to the arthritis. I thank you for your concern. I have learned these past 10 years how to read my body pretty well and know when I need to make adjustments in my activities to reduce my activity level. The arthritis I have is both inflammatory and inherited.

Thank you for your thoughts and concerns and prayers. We are getting on in years and inevitably, our bodies accumulate problems that stem from the Fall in Eden. So, I am reminded that this life is not all there is. We have a resurrection and glorification in our future and we will be even better than we could ever be. Looking forward to this, especially at times like this.

Dear, "Bennymkje" when you say this again, my curiosity is piqued. Please be patient and give me the Word where it says it. I have never heard this before. And may the Lord continue His good work in all of us. God bless you and yours, in Jesus name. Amen What I can share today is: Kol 3:1-17

"God has made an everlasting Covenant he does not have to make allowances by 'dispensations' or

allow Israel, despite his Son casting them into outer darkness, be brought back".

Gen.14.18-19 "God blessed Abraham"

" And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God./And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth."

God blesses Abraham as the priest of the most High God.

" For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one./And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood." And these three agree in one. "( 1 Jn 5.7-8)These three agree in one, requires the holy spirit who sets the symbols of bread and wine accordingly.He is validating the everlasting Covenant.

Prior to this encounter God had blessed, acknowledging him as the Father of many nations. God commanded,'Get thee out of 'thy father's house' and he did. As his own Son Abram obeyed God. Jesus Christ is the king of kings, Lord of lords. "Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:/And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:/And I will bless them that bless thee."

16Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.

17Yea, and if I be offered upon the sacrifice and service of your faith, I joy, and rejoice with you all.

18For the same cause also do ye joy, and rejoice with me.

This shows that Paul as an elder would receive a specific crown as a reward for service and that their success ensured that his suffering and work wouldn't be in vain. Sacrifice in verse 17 no doubt could refer to martyrdom. In some sense it seems to indicate even his death would be a cause for victory to be celebrated. To rejoice with those who suffer was something Paul would mention elsewhere; but practically speaking it is hard to do with those close to Paul as the Book of Acts suggested when it was prophesied what would happen to him in Jerusalem. ( Acts 21:13).

Verse 19-25

But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timotheus shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state.

20For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.

21For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's.

22But ye know the proof of him, that, as a son with the father, he hath served with me in the gospel.

23Him therefore I hope to send presently, so soon as I shall see how it will go with me.

24But I trust in the Lord that I also myself shall come shortly.

25Yet I supposed it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother, and companion in labour, and fellowsoldier, but your messenger, and he that ministered to my wants.

This passage shows how those besides Timothy had all abandoned the ministry. Paul himself indicates elsewhere those who abandoned him for the world. After he seems to say TImothy is the only one supporting him he also mentions Epaphroditus.

This reminds us of what he said in 1 Corinthians 1:14-16 as an afterthought. Nonetheless the rest of this chapter shows the unique effort almost to death of a man.

We see several themes in the next verses. First of all Jesus was our example to follow in submitting to the Father's will.

Secondly we see that Christ through this was lifted up and highly exalted. This shows that in the earthly realm; God had this plan for Christ to rule as King in His stead essentially; and through His sacrifice be able to justly rule over man as the Perfect Man.

The world is judged; therefore to vindicate Christ's rightful rule over the powers of the air (Satan) in the world system; as well as to have the final judgment of all wicked unrepentant. A third point that is not emphasized here is how His saints in glorified bodies will also rule and reign with Him in an exalted state in the age to come.

Colossians 2: 12-15

12Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

13For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

14Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

15That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

We realize in verse 12 that we are spared from the judgment of the sheep and goats; and the Great White Throne Judgment. This; along with the fact that we have the Bema Seat Judgment for our actions as stated in Corinthians ( 2 Cor. 5:10) we also are fearing God as to the authority He wields and that all of our actions will be out in the open with our motives judged. We must be distinct from the world as verse 14 and 15 suggests or the "salt and light" as mentioned in the Gospels.

Verses 16-18

Phillipians 2:1-2 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,

2Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

Paul in this chapter sums up what it is to serve and not be served using Christ as an example. He found comfort in the Body of Christ edifying themselves through Godly relationships or Agape type of love. The being of one accord takes some explaining.

In this case we had an Apostle whose example was exemplary (an understatement) who the churches only needed to emulate in selfless care for one another and true unity of the faith. This by no means implies that falsehood can bring true fellowship or be tolerated as a "majority consensus". These churches that Paul fonded were by no means perfect; especially the Corinthians; but they started out with the true Doctrines of Christ. Simply put; a church with leadership that believes and promotes the truth brings together those in one accord in the true faith; whereas those that have corrupt leadership (well you can guess the rest).

Verses 5-11 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

A Correction:

'Can anyone seen a nation prospering on the violence and wanton cruelty" should be read as

"Has anyone seen a nation prospering on the violence and wanton cruelty"

As long as you know an error, that is the blessed way. "there is nothing that God doesn't know" But holiness of God shall not be affected by it. That is his power that is His wisdom. By the same token when God has made an everlasting Covenant he does not have to make allowances by 'dispensations' or allow Israel, despite his Son casting them into outer darkness, be brought back. That is something for you to think about.

GBU