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The whole of chapter 9 in Proverbs is to show a comparison between Wisdom & Folly (= foolishness). As you must have read the earlier verses (1 - 12), you saw the traits of one who uses wisdom. Now both Wisdom & Folly are used here in the feminine gender but not to denigrate the female in any way, but in Hebrew, as in many other languages, those words are in the feminine gender. So, Foolishness is seen as Wisdom's opposite & verses 13 -18 demonstrate that.

The imagery of Foolishness is shown as 'a foolish woman'. Clearly, this woman is personified as a harlot as you can see from the following verses in this chapter. Foolishness is the display of simpleness & ignorance (v13); she sits in a prominent position to call out to the simple men to come into her chambers (v14); both the wise & simple men walk by her, but the simple ones turn in because they are attracted by her alluring calls (v15,16); she convinces them that there can be more pleasure from doing wrong or doing things in secret when no one is looking (v17). But Wisdom's final word (v18) is: "But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell": i.e. the simple can't see 'past their noses' (or, see past their heightened sinful desires) to take into account that that "the wages of sin is death" ( Rom 6:23) & all those who give in to her (foolishness), will join the throng of sinners who succumbed to the wiles of the devil.

In this chapter, we see David's beloved friend, Jonathan, & himself communing after David's encounter with Goliath. You remember that David could not use Saul's armour against Goliath, preferring rather his sling shot with which he was very skilled. So when he & Jonathan met up later, Jonathan offered his royal clothing & armoury to David as he was accepted by King Saul to head up the armies of Israel & needed something more warlike looking when appearing before the King.

So, at this time these pieces of armoury were worn by David for decoration & dignity of his position rather than for use in war. So Jonathan gave him his bow (longbow rather than a crossbow, also 2 Sam 1:22) & his girdle. This was a heavy metal plated belt that served two purposes: to hold the scabbard for his sword & sometimes extended lower to cover & protect the pelvic area. Soldiers also wore a breastplate, which was like the material of the belt but used to protect the abdomen.

"Thank you, Jesus!!!"

Someone sent this to me. I have loosely titled: Tolerance of evil.

"Our great and mighty God, who created all things; even evil

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. ( Isaiah 45:7)

Has pulled the plug on this evil world. He ALLOWED all this to happen....ok if you don't want Me in your nation and you allow your enemies to invade your land with their idols and their sorceries and witchcraft and gods of wood and gods of stone who neither see nor hear....you want to pass your children through the fire of abortion and have your men marry men and your women marry women....

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. ( Revelation 18:2)

....and I will send a famine, not just of food but also of the Word.....no more will the voice of the Bride be heard or the voice of the Bridegroom......you want to kick me out of your nation.....welcome to your New Boss

Judgment begins at the house of the Lord then the cup of His indignation is poured out on everyone else, who have taken the mark and who blaspheme the Most High. Woe unto them"

There is much wisdom in this chapter concerning the character of the believer. It expresses the role the believer plays in the model of society and explains the reason to continue in the purpose discovered in each man. It is important to read the word of God to understand what is expected of us. Represent Jesus as best as we can. Include the Lord in all we do.

Thank you for that.

It's like I always say" Life is too short to waste time, energy or thought" on things that don't please God. The only way we can know Him is through His word. I love the King James version of the Holy bible and it is what I use. This chapter expresses our need to be true to the calling on our lives. I found out what God called me to do. Each day I grow stronger so when the time comes I will be ready, willing, and able to accomplish what thus saith the Lord. I hope everyone will seek and find their gift and talent from Almighty God: in Jesus' name, Amen.

I gathered great wisdom from this chapter. It explains the responsibility of our leaders. It is clearly establishing that the Lord finds their role in our lives important. This is why, I pray, for my leaders Mayor Perkins, Governor Edwards, Senator Kennedy, President Trump and all those in between. Be blessed in Jesus' name, Amen.

I love my enemies and will pray for them.

Without Jesus we're nothing.

How great and merciful is our God . His grace we do not deserve ,but how thankful we should be that He offers it ! Our country is in dire need .( 2Chron.7:14 )

Thank you Robert, that was very helpful also. Re: the coming Anti-Christ. One could argue to the actual commencement of the Great Tribulation that is to come upon the whole world ( Mt 24). One thought is that it commences at the revelation of Anti-Christ (2 Thes 2:3 ff); another, that it's only after he begins his onslaught of terror upon those who refuse him & his Mark; and yet another, at the pouring out of God's Wrath upon the Earth ( Rev 6 ff). So, I suppose the inclination to one of these positions primarily determines where one stands in his belief to the timing of the Rapture of the Church. And then of course, the much debated matter whether the Church experiences any or all of the above, with all the Scriptures given to support those views, comes into play. Whichever understanding, the importance of our readiness & longing for His Return is paramount.

It was the Pharisees trying to catch Jesus in some kind of sin. Jesus used the situation to show the Pharisees (people who hit others on the head with rules), that they were unmerciful.

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And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.

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And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day, that which is not lawful?

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And Jesus said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?

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How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?

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And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

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Therefore the Son of man IS LORD also of the sabbath.

God promises great blessings in this psalm.But for whom are these blessings?

They are only for those who live in the secret place of the most High and sadly for no other.The Spirit explains who shall live in the heavenly abode.Please read Psalm 15.

After re-reading Psalms 78 I get the message that: God can supply all my needs. I also find value in serving the Lord God Almighty because he loves me. I don't feel sorry for those who refuse to obey or deny God and Psalms 78 identifies why Christians should desire for people to be saved but release them when they chose to say "no".

My comment is there a book with all these question and answer in I can buy one and how much does it cost thank you

What a beautiful prayer...

Divers should read 'diverse'...

Amen... to be carnal minded is death but to be spiritual minded is life and peace...thos who are free are free indeed... blessed is the man whose sins re not inputed after him!! praise yah

Can you please tell me. Where are all the passages at that talks about how you are saved I know Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 I have forgot the other ones so if you can please tell me where they are at would be awesome. Thank you much Tim I am a member of the Church of Christ in Glasgow Ky.

meaning of bow and girdle in v4 of 18 chapter

I am reading Proverbs 9; however, I am having a problem understanding Proverbs9:13-15.

I would appreciate any help in understanding these versus.

Thanks

Donna

I'm doing further study on the word divers; which means, diversities. In the Bible as divers diseases or divers places.

Further explanation defines that God hates mixtures; several examples of that.

We all need to hear this; especially now.

I have watched a worldwide earthquake map for years. Today, Mexico south of Acapulco had over 7 on the scale. We can google the news later

God bless your sweet soul. I cannot express enough my gratitude for your prayer and wisdom. I did as you suggested and will keep on.

I'm was so depressed this morning until I saw your sincere words of loving care. God bless you Marie.

Barnes is one of the really good commentaries too. I do believe there is one final antichrist. Full preterism rejects this idea but I see a double-fulfillment.

Some of the early church fathers did believe in some of the things we would call "the futurist view" today. For example, many believed in a literal 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth. They didn't teach a pre-trib rapture though. And they definitely did not divide the church with unsaved Jews as most modern day pre-trib teachers do. In doing so, political zionism has flourished and many Christians in Palestine have been killed and maimed for life. According to Paul, once the New Covenant was confirmed ( Daniel 9:27) there is NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK FOR WE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST. To teach that some Jews would be saved by faith and WORKS during a period of time nullifies the finished work fo Christ on the cross and therefore is heresy. John Hagee is a big teacher on that and teaches DUAL Covenant Theology that teaches that. He threatened to sue Hank Hannegraff about 30 years ago for exposing his false teaching. A brother is not supposed to sue another brother so that didn't speak well of Hagee at all. He went way off the deep end and started to Judaize America after that.

Some pre-trib teachers try to site TWO of the many early church fathers saying they taught a pre-trib rapture in desperation to find someone pre-1830 but they horribly misquote what they really said and left out a portion of what they said; hopefully, not on purpose as that is very deceptive. Two guys that tried that over the last 5 years were Dr. Gene Kim and Dr. Ken Johnson. I fact-checked them to find out those two early church fathers were at best Mid-trib believers if you read the whole passage of their writings. Gene Kim tends to just parrot what he heard someone else teach without doing his homework. Ken Johnson I was concerned that he got it off. Maybe he never really looked it up either and was parroting one of his college teachers.

Man is spirit, soul, and body. Earth is land and sea and everything else that makes up the earth.

Trinity is not a Bible word, but Godhead is

Are the body, soul and spirit are the same thing

questions for a oneness or watchtower (Jehovah's witless) devotee



1 Thess 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)

Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)

Matthew 10:28 - Jesus said: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ..........destroy both soul and body in hell.

Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)

Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

.... dividing asunder of soul and spirit, (the word of God divides the soul and spirit)

so the Bible ALONE teaches man has a body and a soul and a spirit = 3 parts = 1 man

Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness

Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE

How many parts is God? 3? a Godhead? or trinity?

OK I give up you know God & Jesus only by scripture I know God who Dwells in me and in Jesus teaching us hands on personally Indwelling me after my Pentecost experience speaking in tongues the next thing I did was to see IF God could take out of me oppressive sexual acts and desires most would not even call sin. Bam God took them away with powerful completeness. I heard God shows himself to Peter. Show us the Father WHAT HAPPENED NEXT. GOD spoke right through Jesus to Peter and the Apostles. Here I am inside my Son but you say you don't understand our intimacy. I know you do not have that intimacy with God dwelling in you because you have only doctrines to go by. Jesus never explained to the Apostles for 3 years His actions relationship with God. Because Jesus knew until He died and rose and Only then at their Pentacost would they or could they understand. The TRUTH in the Bible is line by line to give understanding AS God reveals Himself to you. Do you Speak in Prophecy THUS SAYETH THE LORD in heavenly tongues? Which is God giving you direct communication and the interpretation for you from inside of you You Speak but it is God talking to You

Please if you haven't had YOUR PENTECOST MOMENT then your a slacker and do not understand whatcloseness to God has been brought to the world exactly as Jesus and God are so alike because God goes everywhere Jesus is and Jesus manifests God from within His soul. I leave it there. I am not a preacher. The deal is we only NOW have the restored access to God as Jesus has and mankind had before the fall and then death and seperstion from God

Make it MORE A BIG DEAL. SELL ALLL AND ONLY THEN WILL JESUS AND GOD CALL YOU A DISCIPLE SON a Nd brother to God and Jesus. Call God dwelling in us, Jesus the Holy Spirit but if you don't actually know it is God then you can never know or be like aJesus or know God and have his Divine nature flowing from your soul.

Warren my guess is:

2 Peter Chapter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 [Seeing] then [that] all these things shall be dissolved, what manner [of persons] ought ye to be in [all] holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

2 Thessalonians Chapter 1:6 Seeing [it is] a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Comments about Jer. 1 the Manchild that is gonna rule all nations. Which is the H.G. The prophet Jer. neva did destroy nations and kingdoms etc. It was just propetic language that a child was gonna rule all nations which ANSWERS to Rev 12 and that child is the H.G. And that child is Spirit AS GOD IS SPIRIT THE OFFSPRING OF Jesus the Grandson the begining AN ISRAEL OF GOD, MUCH GREATER THEN NATURAL ISRAEL. Jesus said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit, The reason he is Spirit is simply b/c he is the Living WORD, that good SEED that comes out of Jesus mouth and his Heart a heavenly nation ( Gods ) To whom the WORD came it made them Gods. Thats what the H.G. is the offspring of Christ, Jesus has a seed to sow in humanity, its the seed of God. Scripture says the H.G fell on them that heard his WORDS i.e. hearing and understanding his words results in conception. and gestation. Being born again of an incorruptible seed even by the Words of God. B/C I have spoken these WORDS sorrows have filled your hearts, then he tells them that these sorrows will only be till the Child comes which is the H.G. tHAT CAME AT PENTECOST SOME 50 DAYS LATER. He tells them that these will sorrows will pass after the Child comes, Then i will see you AGAIN simply B/C/ he is the Child, tHE H.G. Whosoever receives one such Child in my NAME receives ME , Unless ya receive the Kingdom as a lil child ( The heavenly birth ) you will in no WISE enter there in.There cannot be an Israel of GOD WITHOUT A GRANSON, there cd NOT be a Natural Israel without granson Jacob. It was granson JACOB whos name was changed to Israel, we know that the H.G is the Granson simply b/c he comes out of Christ loins, his seed, his Breath was HIS WORD, HIS SEED Thus the H.G is truly the GRANSON FOLLOWED by an Israel of God, Remember Jesus said that the good seed are the Children of the Kingdom( Gods ) that are gonna be born in US VIA HIS SEED the word. When Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he said unto US A CHILD IS BORN.