It is late but out of a sense of duty let me briefly sum up some other concepts here from scripture. I did earlier posts which probably are gone on this subject; not sure if a name search can look things up although things ARE archived permanently it seems under certain scripture references of the day.
As stated in the last post there are what I would call "hidden" nuggets referring to the Rapture. Psalm 40 in the beginning is one I have mentioned; another is Zephaniah 2:3. Then there are the precedents of Enoch being translated because He had a close walk with God and Elijah. Jesus of course was the "first of the firstfruits" and the many who came out of their graves after His resurrection was an early gleaning type firstfruits as well ( Matt. 27:52-53).
We are; symbolically the "kings and priests" shown in Revelation 5 and other scriptures. Again it seems at times confusing but verses there discuss being redeemed to allow us to differentiate between angelic beings and people.
One strong point which we probably all agree upon is to focus on the Word; especially in light of heaven. This is how we gain spiritual insight; and it keeps us from myths such as the 3 days of darkness which come from some sort of pagan mysticism that is supposed to occur before the Rapture. Indeed there IS darkness coming during various judgments.
The other point is that the time of Jacob's trouble ( Jeremiah 30:7) needs to help provoke God's people ( Zech 13:8) who endure until the end through saving faith of that time of trial which the whole WORLD goes through which Revelation 3:10 promises we can as the overcomers in the Godly remnant type church can experience.
Again I have cited verses in Daniel which discuss saints being overcome ( Daniel 7:25 also seen in Revelation 13:7); yet now in the "church age" or dispensation the gates of hell will not prevail against the church ( Matt. 16:18). This means absolute apostasy in Mystery Babylon can't come until we are gone.
Jesus said "knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
And then we come to verse 20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
He's standing outside knocking, not to come in!
He's calling out individuals! " if any man hear my voice,"
You also quoted, "Mathew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
The gates of hell shall not prevail against it!
What a saying that is!
Gates are put up for defense!
He's saying these defensive gates will not prevail against the Church!
This is one of many reason why I believe the Antichrist can't come until the Church is removed.
It puts 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 in perspective and also the saints mentioned in Daniel 7:25 couldn't be talking about the Church.
How much time does Scripture give the beast? In Revelation 13, the beast, whom people call the antichrist, from the time he rises, he is only given 3.5 years, not 7 years, Revelation 13:5. This is after the war in heaven where Michael and his angels overcome and cast Satan and his angels down to earth, this is when the restraints are lifted, not the removal of the Church.
The beast is only given 42 months, which is 3.5 years, to make war against the saints and to overcome them, Revelation 13:7. If the church is removed, whom will he make war against? The resurrection of the dead is divided into two:
The resurrection of the righteous, which is the first resurrection and will happen at Christ's return, Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 20:4-6.
Resurrection for the rest of the dead, which is the second resurrection, and will happen after the 1000 years of Christ's reign, Revelation 20:7-15.
The ones in the first resurrection will reign with Christ, where, Daniel 7:27, 2 Timothy 2:12Revelation 20:6, Revelation 5:9-10. When Jesus returns, He does not go back to heaven.
We see in Revelation 20:4 thrones, and judgment was given to those in the first resurrection. This is on earth, and we see those who were beheaded and did not take the mark or worship the beast, and these lived and reigned with Christ on earth for the 1000 years.
last trumpet is the seventh trumpet, the same trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Jesus is coming to establish His kingdom on this earth.
It should be understood that the Bible clearly states that there are two comings of Jesus.
He came to die for the sins of mankind: this has been fulfilled.
Second Coming: coming to establish the kingdom of God/heaven. This is yet to happen. The resurrection of the righteous dead only happens at the second coming of Christ.
Revelation 1:7 says, "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."
Behold, he comes with the clouds. I personally don't believe this is making reference to the rapture. I believe Revelation 1:7 is speaking of the Second Coming of Christ, separate from the rapture which would have previously taken place.
Please allow me to share my reasoning. This is how I understand this. It says, "He (Jesus) comes with the clouds. The reference is found in Daniel 7:13.
In Acts Chapter 1, after Jesus ascended up after His resurrection, the disciples were looking up into heaven watching Him disappear in the clouds, and Acts 1:10-11 says, "and while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel. Which also said ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as you have seen Him go into heaven.
So, Jesus is going to come back the same way. He's going to come back in the clouds. We know that Jesus physically walked this earth some 2,000 plus years ago. We also know that when He ascended, He ascended up on a cloud. When He comes at His Second Coming, He will again come in the clouds and physically step down onto the earth. This will be seen, the same as His ascension was seen. At the rapture, we meet Him in the air. The rapture will happen so fast that it will be impossible for the eye to see.
The dead in Christ will rise from the grave, and we (believers) who are alive will also be caught up together to meet the Lord in the air. There is no mention of anyone meeting the Lord in the air at His Second Coming.
n the Old Testament, the earthly kingdom promised to Israel is a central theme of prophecy-rooted in God's covenants with Abraham, David, and reiterated by the prophets. These passages consistently describe a literal kingdom on earth, centered in Jerusalem, where Messiah reigns over Israel and the nations.
Here are some key OT scriptures:
1. Promise to Abraham - A literal land & nation
Genesis 13:14-15 - God promises Abraham and his seed the land forever.
Genesis 17:8 - "I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land for an everlasting possession."
2. Davidic Covenant - Messiah ruling from Jerusalem
2 Samuel 7:12-16 - God promises David a seed (Messiah) whose throne and kingdom will be established forever.
Psalm 89:3-4, 34-37 - David's throne and kingdom will endure like the sun and moon.
3. Prophecies of the earthly kingdom
Isaiah 2:2-4 - In the last days, the mountain of the LORD's house will be established in Jerusalem; nations will come to learn God's ways; peace will cover the earth.
Isaiah 9:6-7 - Messiah will sit upon the throne of David and rule with justice forever.
Isaiah 11:1-10 - Messiah reigns in righteousness; the wolf dwells with the lamb; the earth is full of the knowledge of the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:5-6 - The "Branch" of David will reign as King, executing justice in the land.
Ezekiel 37:21-28 - Israel regathered in their land; David (Messiah) will be king over them; God's sanctuary in their midst forever.
Daniel 2:44 - In the days of earthly kings, God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
Daniel 7:13-14, 27 - The Son of Man receives an everlasting dominion, and the kingdom is given to the saints.
Zechariah 14:9, 16-17 - The LORD will be King over all the earth; nations will come to Jerusalem to worship.
I pray that I do not offend you, brother. Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God, and God placed Him above all, not just humans, until the last enemy is destroyed. Jesus is worthy of these titles. We do not see the apostles teaching that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, in Acts 3:13, where Peter says, "the God of our fathers hath glorified His Son."
In Revelation 1:17-18 says "he that liveth and was dead and behold I am alive for evermore". God is Spirit and eternal, and can not change, nor even any part of Him die. God sent His Son into this world to be the propitiation for our sins, 1 John 4:10. The law was for man, who could be tempted, Hebrews 4:14, God cannot be tempted James 1:13. Man had to live a perfect life, obedient to the Father, and die that through Jesus's blood, we have redemption, Ephesians 1:7, God is a Spirit.
The phrase "son of man" in the Old Testament is a metaphor or idiom referring to a human being or a mere mortal. God addressed Ezekiel as "Son of Man"; Jesus referred to Himself 80 times as the "Son of Man." In Daniel 7:13-14, Daniel was shown a vision of Jesus after His resurrection ascending to heaven, to His Father, Ephesians 1:17-23, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory. God does not have a God, 2 Cor. 11:31, Eph. 1:3, Eph. 4:6, 1 Pet. 1:3.
Daniel 10, this is not a vision of Christ; it is an angel, Gabriel. This chapter shows us that battles in the spiritual realm are going on that we do not see or hear. Daniel had prayed and was mourning about what he had been shown would happen to his people and Jerusalem in Daniel 9. In Daniel 10:12-14, Gabriel tells Daniel why he was late coming; this is not a vision of Christ.
I will leave it there; I hope you understand my reply is in love.
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow. That's in Daniel 7:9. It denotes purity.
And His eyes were as a flame of fire. That's found in Daniel 10:6. In fact, in Daniel 10:6, he has pretty much the same vision. He saw the same Christ, but his is scarier than John's. Daniel doesn't say flames of fire; he says His eyes were burning like torches.
Revelation 1:15 - And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And His feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace. Brass was used in the Old Testament for the altars. And where all the sacrifices, and where God's judgment was to be poured out, it was to be made of brass. That's found in Exodus 38:1-7. His feet for judgment!
And His voice as the sound of many waters, taken from Ezekiel 43:2. He sounded like a trumpet when He started. Now He sounds like many waters, that deep sound like the waves coming up and crashing onto the rocks, and here is this deep voice now speaking like the sound of many waters.
Revelation 1:12 - And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
He says and I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And being turned, here's what I saw, he saw two things: I saw seven golden candlesticks; Now everywhere where you see the word candlesticks in the book of Revelation, it's literally the word LUCHNIA, which means lampstand. It's not a candlestick. It is a lampstand.
Revelation 1:13 - And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
And in the midst of the seven lampstands one like unto the Son of man. That's the phrase taken from Daniel 7:13. He's called the Son of Man. Again, that's a title. The Son of Man is someone who is over the human race. He's in charge of the human race.
Son of God, who we think is the second person of the trinity, but that's why the Jewish people got upset with Jesus, for saying He was the Son of God, because they know the Son of God is God. Whoever the Son of God is, He's in charge of God. Whoever the Son of Man is, He's in charge of the humans.
Check out this description:
He was clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps, or chest, with a golden sash. That's taken from Daniel Chapter 10 Verse 5. That's the priestly garment of the Old Testament. He's dressed like a priest.
I have read all the scriptures as best as possible. All these scriptures are for Israel. I love Israel and respect Israel, but God is dealing with the world again through Apostle Paul's epistle, Romans through Philemon.
Exodus 32:13
Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.
Numbers 14:21
But as truly as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of theLord.
Numbers 35:31-34
31Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death.
Daniel chapter 3
Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon
Daniel 7:13, 14, 18
Thank you for those wonderful verses, I love the Old Testament and the New Testament, they all fit like a puzzle perfectly, but we must know what's for us today and what's not for us today.
Fuji we must know who's writing, to whom there writing to, what date was it written and is it us today . The Bible is Holy Words of the Spirit and I respect it all. Everytime we read the Bible, we need to ask ourselves questions and you are doing that . Please have patience and God we reveal it to you.
God bless and keep up the good work in studying and praying.
Hello Fuji. That's a good question, because if we try to find reference to what the people said in John 12:34 in the Mosaic Law, even in the Pentateuch, then we will be disappointed. Sometimes, reference to the Law doesn't imply the Mosaic Law, but the Laws & all of the Word of God that is the body of the Old Testament. An example of this would be when Jesus answered the Jews in John 10:34, "Is it not written in your LAW, I said, Ye are gods?" It was never written in the Mosaic Law, but in Psalm 82:6, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." And "gods" here is the other meaning of Elohim, and that is 'judges or rulers'. Another example is in John 15:25 (cf Psalm 35:19 & Psalm 69:4) or 1 Corinthians 14:21 (cf Isaiah 28:11,12).
So, the reference you gave won't be found in the Mosaic Law, but derived from the references elsewhere to Christ's eternal existence. And my Bible cross references the following to John 12:34: Psalm 110:4, Isaiah 9:7, and Daniel 7:13,14. Hope this helps a little.
Acts 1:11 - Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Notice that they called them Galileans. I don't know if you are aware of it or not, but all of the disciples were Galileans except for Judas. He's the only one that was not a Galilean. He was from the city of Iscariot outside of Galilee.
He says you men of Galilee. Why do you stand here gazing up into heaven? That's a good one! We just saw the Lord go up through the clouds and you're asking us why?
Well, there's actually a doctrinal statement. The Jews, from Daniel 7:13, which tells us that Messiah, when He comes, He's going to come in the clouds.
They didn't know if He was going to go up, or come back down. They didn't know what the timetable was. Plus, they were probably in shock. Here we go again. After our hopes are sky high, now He's gone again!
So, they are looking up in the clouds because their hope is that Messiah would come in the clouds. So, he's telling them that this same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as you have seen Him go into heaven. One day He's coming again and He will receive us into the clouds.
Acts 1:14 - These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
So, these all continued with one accord. I'm sure you already know this, but that's not a Honda! These all continued, and it literally means with one passion or one purpose. They were all there for one thing. It's kind of nice that when you are with other believers and you are all there for the same reason.
It says in prayer and supplication. In the Greek text, supplication means petitions, specific prayers, where prayer in general is just for general prayer.
John 12:3 - Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.
Then Mary took a pound of ointment. It is actually not a pound as we know it. The Greek word means three quarters of a pound of ointment, and of spikenard, very costly. And spikenard is an oil extract from a plant in India. It is very costly, about 300 day's wages, almost a year for us. So, she took this ointment and poured it on the feet of Jesus. This was while they were at the table to eat supper.
John 12:5 - Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
A DENARIUS is one day's wage, so 300 DENARII would be 300 days wages. So, Judas is calculating and saying, "What a waste!" It could have been sold and we could have given the money to the poor.
John 12:6 - This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.
Judas was stealing out of the treasury of the disciples. He was stealing out of the money bag. All he could see is 300 days wages that could be in his bag, but instead she wasted it on Jesus.
John 12:34 - The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?
There are two terms for Jesus; Son of God, and Son of man. Son of God means spiritually He is all God. Son of Man means that He's the head of the human race.
This is taken from Daniel 7:13-14, where it is first used that the Son of man will come. He inherits everything from the human race, and He is God. He is the Son of God and the Son of man. He is 100% God and 100% man.
22 Confirming the souls of the disciples,and exhorting them to continue in the faith,and that WE MUST through much TRIBULATION enter into the kingdom of GOD.
Re.11:15:The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD(DEVIL's WORLD)are become the kingdoms of our Lord,and of his Christ;and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Re.11:18-And the NATIONS were(will be)angry(why?),and GOD's WRATH is come...-->WHAT WILL BE THE CONSEQUENCES IN ALL THE NATIONS?All will see from now on.The message for ALL the believers is:GET READY,and do what the Lord GOD commands:--> Isaiah 26:20-21,and trust in the Word of GOD--> Psalm 91 among many other biblical references.
NOW,even now,the current time-->it is the time of the dead that they should be Judged--> Isaiah 26:19 combined with Daniel 12:1-4,and 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16;
NOW, even now-->the Lord GOD should give REWARD unto His servants the prophets,and to the saints( 1Corinthians 6:2 combined with Daniel 7:22 andd 26-27),and them that fear HIS NAME,small and great;
NOW,even NOW,from NOW on -->our Lord GOD should DESTROY them which destroy the earth.-> 2Peter 3:11->Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED(AS AN IMPLOSION),what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of GOD, wherein the heavens being on fire(THE HEAVENLY ENVIRONMENT ESTABLISHED BY GOD OF THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS-BOTH COVENANTS)shall be DISSOLVED,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13Nevertheless we,according to his promise,look for new heavens and a NEW earth( Acts 3:19-21),wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 16:15-->15Behold,I come as a thief.Blessed is he that watcheth,and keepeth his garments,lest he walk naked,and they see his shame.
Mat.24:22-23
22And except these days should be shortened,there should no flesh be saved:but for the elect's sake these days shall be shortened.
23Then if any man shall say unto you,Lo,here is Christ,or there;believe it not.->be careful
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Here's the message for today, and for days ahead, day by day, and henceforward, until the END of all things, and END this world as a whole.
Genesis 19:13 reveals the voice sounded in Sodom: We will destroy this place,... but now, even now, from now on, the same voice will destroy the current world of Devil as a whole, as was prophesied, since ancient time. The same Word, the Word of GOD, GOD Himself, must sound, self-executing it. Heavens and earth shall PASS AWAY, but my Words shall not pass away, says my Lord, so
Get ready
There shall be wrath against the wicked- Romans 2:8-9 combined with Revelation 11:18, among many biblical references- see, only Judgment and Justice will support you. Righteousness and Judgment are the foundation of GOD's Throne.
Scripture tells us Jesus returns only one time, Zachariah 14:4 Matthew 24:30Acts 1:111 Thessalonians 4:16-17Hebrews 9:28Rev. 1:7Rev. 6:15-16. When Jesus returns those who are chosen and faithful are resurrected to reign on earth with Jesus, Rev. 17:14Daniel 2:44Daniel 7:26-27 2 Timothy 2:12Rev. 5:10Rev. 11:15.
This reign on earth begins after the tribulation and the armies of Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the ten kings/countries of the beast who destroy mystery Babylon come to battle Jesus in the battle of Armageddon, Zachariah 14:1-3 Ezekiel 39:17-22Rev. 19:17-19Rev. 16:13-16. In Rev. 20 we see Satan bound and sealed in the bottomless pit for 1000 years. Jesus then sets up the Kingdom on earth and we see the judgment of those in the first resurrection who will be reigning with Jesus on earth for 1000 years Rev. 20:4-6.
The 1000-year Kingdom will be on the earth, but it will be very different from the world today without the temptation of Satan, Isaiah 65:25Zechariah 14:16 It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod so that all the promises of God be fulfilled, all the boundaries of land God promised Abraham have never been, Genesis 15:18-20Numbers 34:1-12 but they will in the future.
We know from Rev. 20:7-10, that there will be nations after the 1000 years that Satan will go out to deceive and bring them together to battle. After this battle, a fire burns up the earth and Satan is cast into the lake of fire, "the earth and the heaven fled away" The final Judgment of the white throne is not just for the lost, and all in this judgment who is not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire, Rev. 20:11-15, Daniel 12:2Matthew 25:32-46John 5:28-29.
As you and ALL know, the prophecy - Daniel 7:7-8- is revealing about the fourth Empire- the dreadful and terrible, and strong Roman Empire- diverse from the Greek, Persian and Babylonian kingdoms that were before it. As you and all know, the Roman Empire was specifically and genuinely a GENTILIC Empire, but there was also a completely alien being, or nation, in the Gentile Roman Empire: It was ISRAEL, descendants of Abraham. For this reason the prophecy reveals Israel as an APPENDIX linked to the Roman Empire as 10 other independent powers, DESCENDANTES OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC and JACOB, prophetically represented by 10 horns, which in turn represents the 10 toes of the statue, part of iron, and part of clay- Daniel 2:42. In Daniel 2 , Israel, the clay- Isaiah 64:8-, is represented by 10 toes of the feet of the Nebuchadnezzar's estatue.
The roots of the Gentile Beast of sea, the Papacy, a religious MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy, the main partner of the red Dragon- Revelation 12:3-4 & 9, yeah, the roots of the Gentile Beast of sea-the Papacy, are described in Revelation 13:2. In this current decade must be elected the last Pope, the next, and to this last Pope the dragon- Revelation 13:11-, will give him his Power, and his Throne(in JERUSALEM), and great Authority. Both as a RELIGIOUS AND SATANIC MONSTER-Catholicism and Judaism-iron and clay-, both will establish an Universal and religious kingdom- Daniel 2:41-44 combined with Luke 21:24 and Revelation 11:2. Take a look.
There will be a terrible spiritual War in the Earth from now on- Revelation 16:13-15.
GET READY
Revelation 21:8 - The fearful(COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
The sacrifice of JESUS until the current time lasted around 727000 days-THE DAILY SACRIFICE WILL BE TAKE AWAY WHEN THE JEWISH FALSE MESSIAH-THE BEAST LIKE A LAMB( Revelation 13:11-18 and John 5:43-47SIT IN HIS THRONE IN JERUSALEM- THEN THE PLACE OF THE SANCTUARY WILL BE CAST DOWN, as was prophesied by Daniel. Daniel 7:7-8 & 11.
Dan.7:7-and behold a fourth Beast,dreadful and terrible,and strong exceedingly;and it had great iron teeth:it devoured and brake in pieces,and stamped the residue with the feet of it:and it was diverse from all the Beasts that were before it;and it had ten horns.
8-I considered the(10)horns,and,behold,there came up among them another little horn,...and,behold,in this(little)horn were eyes like the eyes of MAN,and a mouth speaking great things. Yea,he(the little horn,by his mouth)shall magnify himself(magnified as God)even to the prince of the host(it is Michael- Revelation 12:7),and by him (by the Jewish false messiah-the little horn)the daily sacrifice will be taken away,and the place of the sanctuary will be cast down.
The false lamb/messiah( John 5:43),he is also a Jew,and he is from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, maybe from the tribe of Dan as Jacob prophesied- Genesis 49:16-17. He shall rise up from the earth-from Israel-from one of the ten tribes of Israel-HE IS THE LITTLE HORN.
The false lamb- John 5:43-has two horns like a lamb.Two horns represent the two kingdoms of Israel,but he will rise up from one of the 10 tribes,as prophesied Jacob. Genesis 49:16-17.
8And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father and you will no longer see Me; 11and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world has been condemned.
"And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." ( Revelation 5:13)
"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." ( John 20:29).
Starting with the middle verse; I thought it interesting to consider that IF this is to be taken chronologically; IMMEDIATELY after the Rapture and before the onset of the first seal being opened; everyone will praise God and Christ. I had originally noted that this occurs at the sixth seal; when mankind runs away from God and realizes His judgments have begun. This brings to mind what was said in the passage from John; we don't want to wake up in the Tribulation and have to face the horrors of that time and martyrdom to boot which will be the basic change once everything is revealed; the church age is over and the saints are to be overcome ( Daniel 7:25).
The Spirit reflects Christ in its operation. When Jesus spoke it was often in regard to bringing out the full meaning of the law (lust and anger) as general teaching to the crowd; or specific allegations to a group of Pharisees in particular as well as lawyers.
The Spirit causes individuals to have a general conviction of sin because we have a sense of God's holiness against our own condition. The end result of sin is death ( Romans 6:23) and hell. Godly sorrow brings repentance (and life) worldly sorrow death.
Daniel 8:23-25 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
To understand the first seal of Revelation which is parallel to the " Daniel 9:27" covenant; we have to gain wisdom and understanding on what exactly the white horse of Revelation 6:1-2 represents. We can see a similar concept here to the Mahdi of Islam; who is said to come this exact way on a white horse and makes a seven year pact (from what I can tell is in a Hadith rather than specifically mentioned in the Koran but I don't want to focus on that here). My point is the idea of peace through force or SUBMISSION. The point in verse 24 of Daniel 8 is also translated as causing "astonishing devestation". This would likely be the scenario where he takes over the 3 nations of the 10 mentioned in Daniel 7:8. That would possibly be related to a limited nuclear conflict but could of course be a type of "blitzkrieg" that is a sudden assault rendering enemies helpless. SInce this is a power struggle that could be the emphasis here.
These passages also show judgment by God; even in false peace. Jeremiah 6:14 and 8:11 bolster what is seen in Thessalonians about false peace ( 1 Thess. 5:3). The world shall believe in "THE LIE" in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 and the Jews will believe in another who comes in his own name as John 5:43 shows with Jesus warning His own people with what they indeed WILL do in the future. God will use men and Satan to do His will.
Anyone with access to a concordance; even a basic list in small print of corresponding verses shows the integrity and cohesiveness of all of the Bible; both Old and New Testaments. This dwarfs the historical references in the Apocrypha; in which many of the details that are verifiable are in Maccabees; 1 and 2. The feast of Dedication is found in the N.T. but not mentioned specifically in the Old; hence Maccabees is helpful describing this as well. These facts are important for archaeological and historical accuracy as well as the veracity of the teachings in the Bible; whether in the old covenant of the law or the New Covenant. When we compare information in scripture to other secular teachings and those of other faiths; we see elemental truths as well as the same events clearly indicated in many cases; or closely paralleled.
In the case of the law; for example there are repetitive passages in the Pentateuch in regard; for instance to the 10 commandments found in Exodus and Deuteronomy; then Jesus quotes many of the same passages when contenting with the Pharisees to expound the deeper meanings of intentions of the heart when it comes to marriage and divorce; hatred for someone; and lustful thoughts. Love your neighbor as yourself comes from Leviticus 19:18 which I wasn't even aware of until recently.
The empires of history are in Daniel as well as the final world government summarized in Daniel 7:4-6 and Revelation 13:2.
We see the same cross references relating to most of the major events of the Tribulation especially found in the endo of chapter 11 and all of 12 in Daniel. Jesus Himself in Matthew 24:15 stated the importance of Daniel's visions from Daniel 12:11. This also was foreshadowed in the story in Maccabees about Antiochus Epiphanes which time frame is alluded to in parts of Daniel 11 that seem to shift into the time of the end in verse 40.
We do well to study the Word as the Bereans did ( 2 Tim. 2:15).
Necessary doctrines: God's covenants with Israel and the church.
The question that arises is this; since we are "grafted in" hence Jews and Gentiles are part of God's elect in this age as we see illlustrated in Romans 11. If we continue to verse 23; however we see that even Jews are grafted in once they believe in the truth about Jesus. ( Romans 11:25). We also see this principle in Luke 21:24 as well as various Old Testament scriptures about the Resurrection of all saints ( Daniel 12:13) and King David himself ruling with Christ ( Daniel 7:27 and other passages). There are those who stubbornly only consider these promises to be fulfilled in the church and say God is done with Israel. This helps to discount a millennium as something which is symbolic of the church (even though that has lasted almost 2000 years now since Pentecost). I would say that we need to draw the line if there is a display of antisemitism; for instance with a superiority complex developing because of these theories. Admittedly there is much evil among all; including those Jews who are living in unbelief when we see; for instance Tel Aviv and the abominations of those living out a lifestyle like Sodom ( Revelation 13:16-17). We also need to seek out individuals whether Jew or Gentile to preach the Good News; without partiality to anyone. Finally; there is difficulty with some in regard to sacrifices actually occurring in the Millennium; deeming them an abomination as Christ has already fulfilled all things necessary. That would depend on the purpose of these; as to commemorating God and having a ceremonial purification; for instance. Such activity would help to bring all to worship in Israel; fulfilling prophecies such as Isaiah 56:7 and Zechariah 14:17. Despite all this; I wouldn't consider this essential doctrine to break fellowship but important nonetheless to get a correct grip on the rest of scriptures to avoid what could be bigger error of essential truths.
Thank you for continuing the discussion, I also tremble at His word we are just a spec compared to our God. Deuteronomy 18:15-19 This to me is fulfilled in John 1:1 the word of God in Jesus the Messiah. When Jesus was anointed the Messiah every word that Jesus said was the word of God the word of God in the flesh of His Son. Everything that was created was created by the word of God, not His Son. God said let there be, and it was.
If we read Isaiah 66:1 we cannot imagine how large God can be. He can overwhelm all of what we can imagine. In my human mind, I see His Spirit cover the earth like a dome, omnipresent, it is like an electrical grid that believers plug into, I know that may sound weird.
John 17 I will do my best to show my understanding, this is just before Jesus was going to be nailed to the cross. Verses 1-5 Jesus is praying to the Father about Himself, the Father is God, when we pray, we pray to our Father, and we relate to God as Father, through the Bible Father means God and Jesus said to His Father He is the only true God. In and through Jesus Christ we become sons and daughters of God, so we cry out Abba, Father, Galatians 4:6.
Jesus said He had finished the work the Father had given to Him and Jesus glorified His Father on earth. Jesus is now ready to face death on the cross and fulfilling the law and the prophet's, all of what Scripture had said what He would become, and Jesus was ready to take His place on the right hand of His Father, Isaiah 53:12Jeremiah 23:5-62 Samuel 7:12-13Psalm 110:4Psalm 16:10, these are just a few verses that Jesus would have known about Himself.
In Daniel 7:13-14 Daniel had a prophetic vision of Jesus's ascension and God the Father giving His Son Jesus dominion and glory overall and giving Him the kingdom. God showed Daniel this was with God in the beginning, in God's plan but did not come to fruition until Jesus ascended in Acts 1:9.
Good evening, Chris. I find it fascinating that people have such a difficult time with thinking their salvation may not be secure. Answer me this, does God change? Does Jesus change? Does the Holy Spirit change? The answer to all those is no, of course not. Then why would God 'change' His requirements for a relationship with Him? He wouldn't. What is the main difference between the Old and New Testaments? The advent of Christ and His sacrifice on the cross for all mankind, including those who lived prior to His earthly life starting in Bethlehem. While believers in the OT went to Paradise, as opposed to Heaven, they were still God's children and were in Paradise until Christ's crucifixion and resurrection set them free (so to speak) to go to Heaven. All that to say this, do you recall anyone speaking of eternal security for the likes of Abraham, Noah, Moses, Rahab, Seth or David? No, you haven't because it didn't exist even though when they died and went to Paradise, they could never lose their relationship with God and be booted over the chasm to Hades.
So, why all of a sudden with Christ's birth, death, and resurrection, do we suddenly decide that God has provided eternal security for us? If according to Psalms 55:19, 102:27, Daniel 7:14, Malachi 3:6 and Hebrews 1:12, 13:8, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit do not change, then let's quit convincing ourselves they do. Have a good Thanksgiving and thanks for your time...
PS OT saints got in the book of Life the 'old-fashioned' way, trust and obedience. It works every time. Amen.
The anti christ IS here and HAS BEEN here for hundreds of years. The antichrist was identified by many Protestant church fathers as the office of the Pope. The Catholic/Vatican/ Jesuit system. I am NOT calling Catholic people antichrist! I was born and raised Catholic.
Changes made by the pope:
1. The 10 commandments. Compare the Catholic 10 commandments to any Bible translation which is based upon the Textus Receptus. In English, that is the KJV.
2. The day of worship. God rested on the SEVENTH day and blessed it. NOT SUNDAY! The sabbath is Saturday.
3. The Gregorian calendar changed God's calendar. God's calendar is based on the moon, and the new year in the spring.
4. The daily clock. God said a new day begins at sunset. The pope said the new day begins at midnight.
"And he shall speak words against the most high and shall wear out the saints of the most high AND HE SHALL THINK TO CHANGE THE TIMES AND THE LAW:" emphasis mine. KJV Daniel 7:25.
The Papacy and the RCC-which rides upon the MAN Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-,the Pope,a Gentile Beast,actually a religious and satanic MONSTER having 7 heads and 10 horns,and upon his horns 10 crowns,and upon his heads a NAME of blasphemy,this religious MONSTER will do a partnership with the MAN Beast of the earth- Revelation 13:11-,who has two horns like a lamb(a false lamb,a false messiah- John 5:43-47-AN IMPOSTOR),who will manifest in days to come,probably in this year or in the next,and shall speak as a dragon- Revelation 13:11
How will be this partnership between the MAN Beast of the sea(sea are peoples,and nations,and multitudes of all tongues- Revelation 17:15),and the MAN Beast of the earth that is like a lamb,a false lamb,a false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR- John 5:43-,yeah, how will be this partnership?
Revelation 13:2 gives us the answer for this question, that is:
To the MAN Beast of sea which is like unto a leopard,and his feet as the feet of a bear,and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(actually it refers the roots of this satanic Gentile Beast- Daniel 7:4-6, yeah, to him the false messiah-the dragon-Rev.13:11-,will give his Power, and his Seat(in Jerusalem, where is the Throne of Satan),and great Authority-Rev.13:2,and Power will be given unto the MAN Beast of sea-to the last of the Popes or Papacy,for forty and two months- Revelation 13:5.By the way,this period of 42 months ruled by the last Pope sat in the Throne of the false messiah in Jerusalem is the FIRST HALF of the last week-week 70th, Daniel 9:27,so Catholicism(iron)and the esoteric and kabbalistic Judaism(the clay)both will be together to establish an Universal and satanic religious kingdom,and then will LITERALLY be fulfilled what my Lord JESUS prophesied: "...and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles(with the Pope enthroned in Jerusalem by the false messiah),until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled-that is the fullness of the Gentiles"- Luke 21:24 combined with Revelation 11:2
In yesterday's posts; I listed categories of "left vs right" and a lawless mindset as characterizing two things which we now face as we race toward the Lord's return and the Tribulation. Since the "lawless" one is setting the stage for arrival; we can see how either political side has similar agendas leading to an endgame. ( 2 Thess. 2:8-12).
Throughout history; we see two approaches toward the church by either the left leaning leadership (such as under Communist China today) or the right leaning totalitarian dictatorship (Hitler). We see infiltration of the church by the state to constrain and monitor what is taught; or we see the leader himself taken up with a Messianic type adoration who is to be worshipped more or less as a savior. The other option is widespread persecution; looting and burning of houses of worship and executions of believers. Either extreme politically brings about lawlessness eventually; from the revolutions and overthrow of the establishment that is encouraged from the outset; to mock trials which never adhere to even the written codes for justice; to vast excesses with leadership who live in luxury while the rest of society struggles to survive. When Antichrist arrives he will claim to be God to some extent; but be "self made" and deny the father and the son ( 1 John 2:22-23).
When the Daniel 9:27 covenant is made; clearly we see other related verses describing a "man of intrigue" ( Dan. 11:21) who divides the land for gain ( Daniel 11:39) understanding "dark sentences" ( Dan. 8:23); i.e. occult mindset. Money and power broker status has always been the driving force for those in the elite to control the world and enrich themselves. It is clear that we are near an agreement or confirming that covenant with many which will allow the Temple to function and give Israel what seems like a peace arrangement with surrounding nations. At the appointed time it will happen; but also end seven years later
Beast rules for 1260 days ( Rev. 12:14; Daniel 12:7; Daniel 7:25). We are not in the Tribulation yet; for it will be held back (man of sin) until Restrainer is removed ( 2 Thess. 2:6) then the wicked one is revealed ( 2 Thess. 2:8).
One world government needs to be discussed at present. There are alliances as I said before that could be considered part of the divided Roman empire of the last days such as expressed in Daniel 2:40-41. This kingdom will have the strength of iron but be divided and not cling as clay and historically; of course we see Rome as being the western capital; and Constantinople being the eastern capital. Part of this involves the Papal authority and Eastern; Greek and or Russian Orthodox church in charge of the other "leg" so to speak if that is interpreted correctly. This final beast is going to take over the whole world; that is pretty clear from verses in Daniel and Revelation 13. It would seem pitting nations against one another would allow the final 10 nations to rule one hour with Antichrist (see the 3 subdued in Daniel 7:24). This is the final religious; and economic world government under the "Mystery Babylon" rule when the woman rides the Beast ( Rev. 17:13); then later in the second half of the Tribulation ANtichrist destroys the system and its ruling city with fire ( Rev. 17:16). The religious center starting this year in Abu Dhabi and other such concepts has allowed all monotheistic faiths to be at one facility. It seems clear through cooperative efforts today with the Saudi's and even some effort by Turkey in the background that the Temple will be rebuilt with some international agreement on control of the Temple Mount.
For now; we must be aware what is going on but continue to be the salt and light of the world; warning about the conflagration to come. The net that all nations will be led into the seive of destruction is coming. ( Isaiah 30:28). It is a trap coming for the whole world ( Luke 21:24) and we need to remain focused and not be taken aback at His sudden return to take His church home; praying always to be worthy to escape all the things to come and stand before the Son of Man ( Luke 21:36).
As stated in the last post there are what I would call "hidden" nuggets referring to the Rapture. Psalm 40 in the beginning is one I have mentioned; another is Zephaniah 2:3. Then there are the precedents of Enoch being translated because He had a close walk with God and Elijah. Jesus of course was the "first of the firstfruits" and the many who came out of their graves after His resurrection was an early gleaning type firstfruits as well ( Matt. 27:52-53).
We are; symbolically the "kings and priests" shown in Revelation 5 and other scriptures. Again it seems at times confusing but verses there discuss being redeemed to allow us to differentiate between angelic beings and people.
One strong point which we probably all agree upon is to focus on the Word; especially in light of heaven. This is how we gain spiritual insight; and it keeps us from myths such as the 3 days of darkness which come from some sort of pagan mysticism that is supposed to occur before the Rapture. Indeed there IS darkness coming during various judgments.
The other point is that the time of Jacob's trouble ( Jeremiah 30:7) needs to help provoke God's people ( Zech 13:8) who endure until the end through saving faith of that time of trial which the whole WORLD goes through which Revelation 3:10 promises we can as the overcomers in the Godly remnant type church can experience.
Again I have cited verses in Daniel which discuss saints being overcome ( Daniel 7:25 also seen in Revelation 13:7); yet now in the "church age" or dispensation the gates of hell will not prevail against the church ( Matt. 16:18). This means absolute apostasy in Mystery Babylon can't come until we are gone.
Thanks for responding!
Revelation 3:20 is something to think about!
The church of the Laodiceans!
This is a proud group and lukewarm!
In their mind they were in need of nothing!
Jesus said "knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
And then we come to verse 20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
He's standing outside knocking, not to come in!
He's calling out individuals! " if any man hear my voice,"
You also quoted, "Mathew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
The gates of hell shall not prevail against it!
What a saying that is!
Gates are put up for defense!
He's saying these defensive gates will not prevail against the Church!
This is one of many reason why I believe the Antichrist can't come until the Church is removed.
It puts 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 in perspective and also the saints mentioned in Daniel 7:25 couldn't be talking about the Church.
Blessings.
Part 2
How much time does Scripture give the beast? In Revelation 13, the beast, whom people call the antichrist, from the time he rises, he is only given 3.5 years, not 7 years, Revelation 13:5. This is after the war in heaven where Michael and his angels overcome and cast Satan and his angels down to earth, this is when the restraints are lifted, not the removal of the Church.
The beast is only given 42 months, which is 3.5 years, to make war against the saints and to overcome them, Revelation 13:7. If the church is removed, whom will he make war against? The resurrection of the dead is divided into two:
The resurrection of the righteous, which is the first resurrection and will happen at Christ's return, Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 20:4-6.
Resurrection for the rest of the dead, which is the second resurrection, and will happen after the 1000 years of Christ's reign, Revelation 20:7-15.
The ones in the first resurrection will reign with Christ, where, Daniel 7:27, 2 Timothy 2:12 Revelation 20:6, Revelation 5:9-10. When Jesus returns, He does not go back to heaven.
We see in Revelation 20:4 thrones, and judgment was given to those in the first resurrection. This is on earth, and we see those who were beheaded and did not take the mark or worship the beast, and these lived and reigned with Christ on earth for the 1000 years.
last trumpet is the seventh trumpet, the same trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Jesus is coming to establish His kingdom on this earth.
It should be understood that the Bible clearly states that there are two comings of Jesus.
He came to die for the sins of mankind: this has been fulfilled.
Second Coming: coming to establish the kingdom of God/heaven. This is yet to happen. The resurrection of the righteous dead only happens at the second coming of Christ.
See part 3.
Daniel 7:7-8, 23-24
The Fourth Beast (Rome) has 10 horns = 10 kings.
Then a Little Horn (Antichrist) arises, uprooting 3 of the 10.
That leaves 7 remaining horns, now under the Little Horn's dominance.
So:
Start with 10.
3 fall.
7 remain, all ruled by the Antichrist.
2. Revelation's Horns
Revelation 17:12
The 10 horns are 10 kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will receive power for "one hour" with the Beast.
They hand over authority to the Beast.
So again, 10 leaders/nations fully aligned under the Beast.
3. Merging the Two (10 + 7 + 3 = 20)
If we treat Daniel's 10 horns (with 3 uprooted + 7 left) and Revelation's 10 horns as complementary visions of the final configuration, then:
10 (Dan) + 10 (Rev) = 20 rulers/kingdoms.
But Daniel shows 3 fall, and the rest (7 + 10) become subject to the Beast.
That makes 20 powers reduced to full submission under 1 ruler (the Beast).
4. G20 as a Modern Echo
The G20 = the 20 leading economies of the world.
Includes: USA, UK, EU (Germany, France, Italy), Russia, China, Japan, plus emerging powers (India, Brazil, South Africa, etc.).
Collectively, they control 80-85% of global GDP.
They already act as a supra-national council of rulers.
So prophetically:
G20 looks like a modern prefiguration of the horns.
A coalition of 20 powers, out of which:
Some will be subdued (3 uprooted).
Others (7 + remaining) align with the Beast.
Fits perfectly with Daniel + Revelation pattern.
5. Timeline with the Harlot + Beast
Great Harlot dominates global finance, but is destroyed ( Rev 17:16).
Seventh Head (G7/USA-led system) holds sway, but weakens.
Ten Horns (plus total 20 powers = G20) rise in final alignment.
Beast emerges as supreme, absorbing them all the Eighth Kingdom.
Resolution is G20 could be the prophetic prototype of the 20 horns/powers John and Daniel saw.
It's not just random: the number and the role fit strikingly.
(Part 3):
Revelation 1:7 says, "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."
Behold, he comes with the clouds. I personally don't believe this is making reference to the rapture. I believe Revelation 1:7 is speaking of the Second Coming of Christ, separate from the rapture which would have previously taken place.
Please allow me to share my reasoning. This is how I understand this. It says, "He (Jesus) comes with the clouds. The reference is found in Daniel 7:13.
In Acts Chapter 1, after Jesus ascended up after His resurrection, the disciples were looking up into heaven watching Him disappear in the clouds, and Acts 1:10-11 says, "and while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel. Which also said ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as you have seen Him go into heaven.
So, Jesus is going to come back the same way. He's going to come back in the clouds. We know that Jesus physically walked this earth some 2,000 plus years ago. We also know that when He ascended, He ascended up on a cloud. When He comes at His Second Coming, He will again come in the clouds and physically step down onto the earth. This will be seen, the same as His ascension was seen. At the rapture, we meet Him in the air. The rapture will happen so fast that it will be impossible for the eye to see.
The dead in Christ will rise from the grave, and we (believers) who are alive will also be caught up together to meet the Lord in the air. There is no mention of anyone meeting the Lord in the air at His Second Coming.
n the Old Testament, the earthly kingdom promised to Israel is a central theme of prophecy-rooted in God's covenants with Abraham, David, and reiterated by the prophets. These passages consistently describe a literal kingdom on earth, centered in Jerusalem, where Messiah reigns over Israel and the nations.
Here are some key OT scriptures:
1. Promise to Abraham - A literal land & nation
Genesis 13:14-15 - God promises Abraham and his seed the land forever.
Genesis 17:8 - "I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land for an everlasting possession."
2. Davidic Covenant - Messiah ruling from Jerusalem
2 Samuel 7:12-16 - God promises David a seed (Messiah) whose throne and kingdom will be established forever.
Psalm 89:3-4, 34-37 - David's throne and kingdom will endure like the sun and moon.
3. Prophecies of the earthly kingdom
Isaiah 2:2-4 - In the last days, the mountain of the LORD's house will be established in Jerusalem; nations will come to learn God's ways; peace will cover the earth.
Isaiah 9:6-7 - Messiah will sit upon the throne of David and rule with justice forever.
Isaiah 11:1-10 - Messiah reigns in righteousness; the wolf dwells with the lamb; the earth is full of the knowledge of the LORD.
Jeremiah 23:5-6 - The "Branch" of David will reign as King, executing justice in the land.
Ezekiel 37:21-28 - Israel regathered in their land; David (Messiah) will be king over them; God's sanctuary in their midst forever.
Daniel 2:44 - In the days of earthly kings, God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
Daniel 7:13-14, 27 - The Son of Man receives an everlasting dominion, and the kingdom is given to the saints.
Zechariah 14:9, 16-17 - The LORD will be King over all the earth; nations will come to Jerusalem to worship.
I pray that I do not offend you, brother. Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God, and God placed Him above all, not just humans, until the last enemy is destroyed. Jesus is worthy of these titles. We do not see the apostles teaching that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, in Acts 3:13, where Peter says, "the God of our fathers hath glorified His Son."
In Revelation 1:17-18 says "he that liveth and was dead and behold I am alive for evermore". God is Spirit and eternal, and can not change, nor even any part of Him die. God sent His Son into this world to be the propitiation for our sins, 1 John 4:10. The law was for man, who could be tempted, Hebrews 4:14, God cannot be tempted James 1:13. Man had to live a perfect life, obedient to the Father, and die that through Jesus's blood, we have redemption, Ephesians 1:7, God is a Spirit.
The phrase "son of man" in the Old Testament is a metaphor or idiom referring to a human being or a mere mortal. God addressed Ezekiel as "Son of Man"; Jesus referred to Himself 80 times as the "Son of Man." In Daniel 7:13-14, Daniel was shown a vision of Jesus after His resurrection ascending to heaven, to His Father, Ephesians 1:17-23, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory. God does not have a God, 2 Cor. 11:31, Eph. 1:3, Eph. 4:6, 1 Pet. 1:3.
Daniel 10, this is not a vision of Christ; it is an angel, Gabriel. This chapter shows us that battles in the spiritual realm are going on that we do not see or hear. Daniel had prayed and was mourning about what he had been shown would happen to his people and Jerusalem in Daniel 9. In Daniel 10:12-14, Gabriel tells Daniel why he was late coming; this is not a vision of Christ.
I will leave it there; I hope you understand my reply is in love.
bless,
RLW
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow. That's in Daniel 7:9. It denotes purity.
And His eyes were as a flame of fire. That's found in Daniel 10:6. In fact, in Daniel 10:6, he has pretty much the same vision. He saw the same Christ, but his is scarier than John's. Daniel doesn't say flames of fire; he says His eyes were burning like torches.
Revelation 1:15 - And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And His feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace. Brass was used in the Old Testament for the altars. And where all the sacrifices, and where God's judgment was to be poured out, it was to be made of brass. That's found in Exodus 38:1-7. His feet for judgment!
And His voice as the sound of many waters, taken from Ezekiel 43:2. He sounded like a trumpet when He started. Now He sounds like many waters, that deep sound like the waves coming up and crashing onto the rocks, and here is this deep voice now speaking like the sound of many waters.
Revelation 1:12 - And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
He says and I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And being turned, here's what I saw, he saw two things: I saw seven golden candlesticks; Now everywhere where you see the word candlesticks in the book of Revelation, it's literally the word LUCHNIA, which means lampstand. It's not a candlestick. It is a lampstand.
Revelation 1:13 - And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
And in the midst of the seven lampstands one like unto the Son of man. That's the phrase taken from Daniel 7:13. He's called the Son of Man. Again, that's a title. The Son of Man is someone who is over the human race. He's in charge of the human race.
Son of God, who we think is the second person of the trinity, but that's why the Jewish people got upset with Jesus, for saying He was the Son of God, because they know the Son of God is God. Whoever the Son of God is, He's in charge of God. Whoever the Son of Man is, He's in charge of the humans.
Check out this description:
He was clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps, or chest, with a golden sash. That's taken from Daniel Chapter 10 Verse 5. That's the priestly garment of the Old Testament. He's dressed like a priest.
I have read all the scriptures as best as possible. All these scriptures are for Israel. I love Israel and respect Israel, but God is dealing with the world again through Apostle Paul's epistle, Romans through Philemon.
Exodus 32:13
Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.
Numbers 14:21
But as truly as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of theLord.
Numbers 35:31-34
31Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death.
Daniel chapter 3
Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon
Daniel 7:13, 14, 18
Thank you for those wonderful verses, I love the Old Testament and the New Testament, they all fit like a puzzle perfectly, but we must know what's for us today and what's not for us today.
Fuji we must know who's writing, to whom there writing to, what date was it written and is it us today . The Bible is Holy Words of the Spirit and I respect it all. Everytime we read the Bible, we need to ask ourselves questions and you are doing that . Please have patience and God we reveal it to you.
God bless and keep up the good work in studying and praying.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
May you see the Gospel of Grace
He went to the synagogue and healed people on the Sabbath.
That is not "servile" work.
He did not "triumph over the Sabbath."
He guarded it as the only day of the week His Father set aside.
He did nothing except what His Father told him.
Changing times and laws is one of the identifying characteristics of YHVH's chief enemy. Daniel 7:25
So, the reference you gave won't be found in the Mosaic Law, but derived from the references elsewhere to Christ's eternal existence. And my Bible cross references the following to John 12:34: Psalm 110:4, Isaiah 9:7, and Daniel 7:13,14. Hope this helps a little.
Acts 1:11 - Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Notice that they called them Galileans. I don't know if you are aware of it or not, but all of the disciples were Galileans except for Judas. He's the only one that was not a Galilean. He was from the city of Iscariot outside of Galilee.
He says you men of Galilee. Why do you stand here gazing up into heaven? That's a good one! We just saw the Lord go up through the clouds and you're asking us why?
Well, there's actually a doctrinal statement. The Jews, from Daniel 7:13, which tells us that Messiah, when He comes, He's going to come in the clouds.
They didn't know if He was going to go up, or come back down. They didn't know what the timetable was. Plus, they were probably in shock. Here we go again. After our hopes are sky high, now He's gone again!
So, they are looking up in the clouds because their hope is that Messiah would come in the clouds. So, he's telling them that this same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as you have seen Him go into heaven. One day He's coming again and He will receive us into the clouds.
Acts 1:14 - These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
So, these all continued with one accord. I'm sure you already know this, but that's not a Honda! These all continued, and it literally means with one passion or one purpose. They were all there for one thing. It's kind of nice that when you are with other believers and you are all there for the same reason.
It says in prayer and supplication. In the Greek text, supplication means petitions, specific prayers, where prayer in general is just for general prayer.
John 12:3 - Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.
Then Mary took a pound of ointment. It is actually not a pound as we know it. The Greek word means three quarters of a pound of ointment, and of spikenard, very costly. And spikenard is an oil extract from a plant in India. It is very costly, about 300 day's wages, almost a year for us. So, she took this ointment and poured it on the feet of Jesus. This was while they were at the table to eat supper.
John 12:5 - Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
A DENARIUS is one day's wage, so 300 DENARII would be 300 days wages. So, Judas is calculating and saying, "What a waste!" It could have been sold and we could have given the money to the poor.
John 12:6 - This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.
Judas was stealing out of the treasury of the disciples. He was stealing out of the money bag. All he could see is 300 days wages that could be in his bag, but instead she wasted it on Jesus.
John 12:34 - The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?
There are two terms for Jesus; Son of God, and Son of man. Son of God means spiritually He is all God. Son of Man means that He's the head of the human race.
This is taken from Daniel 7:13-14, where it is first used that the Son of man will come. He inherits everything from the human race, and He is God. He is the Son of God and the Son of man. He is 100% God and 100% man.
22 Confirming the souls of the disciples,and exhorting them to continue in the faith,and that WE MUST through much TRIBULATION enter into the kingdom of GOD.
Re.11:15:The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD(DEVIL's WORLD)are become the kingdoms of our Lord,and of his Christ;and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Re.11:18-And the NATIONS were(will be)angry(why?),and GOD's WRATH is come...-->WHAT WILL BE THE CONSEQUENCES IN ALL THE NATIONS?All will see from now on.The message for ALL the believers is:GET READY,and do what the Lord GOD commands:--> Isaiah 26:20-21,and trust in the Word of GOD--> Psalm 91 among many other biblical references.
NOW,even now,the current time-->it is the time of the dead that they should be Judged--> Isaiah 26:19 combined with Daniel 12:1-4,and 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16;
NOW, even now-->the Lord GOD should give REWARD unto His servants the prophets,and to the saints( 1Corinthians 6:2 combined with Daniel 7:22 andd 26-27),and them that fear HIS NAME,small and great;
NOW,even NOW,from NOW on -->our Lord GOD should DESTROY them which destroy the earth.-> 2Peter 3:11->Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED(AS AN IMPLOSION),what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of GOD, wherein the heavens being on fire(THE HEAVENLY ENVIRONMENT ESTABLISHED BY GOD OF THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS-BOTH COVENANTS)shall be DISSOLVED,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13Nevertheless we,according to his promise,look for new heavens and a NEW earth( Acts 3:19-21),wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 16:15-->15Behold,I come as a thief.Blessed is he that watcheth,and keepeth his garments,lest he walk naked,and they see his shame.
Mat.24:22-23
22And except these days should be shortened,there should no flesh be saved:but for the elect's sake these days shall be shortened.
23Then if any man shall say unto you,Lo,here is Christ,or there;believe it not.->be careful
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Here's the message for today, and for days ahead, day by day, and henceforward, until the END of all things, and END this world as a whole.
Genesis 19:13 reveals the voice sounded in Sodom: We will destroy this place,... but now, even now, from now on, the same voice will destroy the current world of Devil as a whole, as was prophesied, since ancient time. The same Word, the Word of GOD, GOD Himself, must sound, self-executing it. Heavens and earth shall PASS AWAY, but my Words shall not pass away, says my Lord, so
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There shall be wrath against the wicked- Romans 2:8-9 combined with Revelation 11:18, among many biblical references- see, only Judgment and Justice will support you. Righteousness and Judgment are the foundation of GOD's Throne.
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Scripture tells us Jesus returns only one time, Zachariah 14:4 Matthew 24:30 Acts 1:11 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Hebrews 9:28 Rev. 1:7 Rev. 6:15-16. When Jesus returns those who are chosen and faithful are resurrected to reign on earth with Jesus, Rev. 17:14 Daniel 2:44 Daniel 7:26-27 2 Timothy 2:12 Rev. 5:10 Rev. 11:15.
This reign on earth begins after the tribulation and the armies of Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the ten kings/countries of the beast who destroy mystery Babylon come to battle Jesus in the battle of Armageddon, Zachariah 14:1-3 Ezekiel 39:17-22 Rev. 19:17-19 Rev. 16:13-16. In Rev. 20 we see Satan bound and sealed in the bottomless pit for 1000 years. Jesus then sets up the Kingdom on earth and we see the judgment of those in the first resurrection who will be reigning with Jesus on earth for 1000 years Rev. 20:4-6.
The 1000-year Kingdom will be on the earth, but it will be very different from the world today without the temptation of Satan, Isaiah 65:25 Zechariah 14:16 It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod so that all the promises of God be fulfilled, all the boundaries of land God promised Abraham have never been, Genesis 15:18-20 Numbers 34:1-12 but they will in the future.
We know from Rev. 20:7-10, that there will be nations after the 1000 years that Satan will go out to deceive and bring them together to battle. After this battle, a fire burns up the earth and Satan is cast into the lake of fire, "the earth and the heaven fled away" The final Judgment of the white throne is not just for the lost, and all in this judgment who is not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire, Rev. 20:11-15, Daniel 12:2 Matthew 25:32-46 John 5:28-29.
God bless,
RLW
As you and ALL know, the prophecy - Daniel 7:7-8- is revealing about the fourth Empire- the dreadful and terrible, and strong Roman Empire- diverse from the Greek, Persian and Babylonian kingdoms that were before it. As you and all know, the Roman Empire was specifically and genuinely a GENTILIC Empire, but there was also a completely alien being, or nation, in the Gentile Roman Empire: It was ISRAEL, descendants of Abraham. For this reason the prophecy reveals Israel as an APPENDIX linked to the Roman Empire as 10 other independent powers, DESCENDANTES OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC and JACOB, prophetically represented by 10 horns, which in turn represents the 10 toes of the statue, part of iron, and part of clay- Daniel 2:42. In Daniel 2 , Israel, the clay- Isaiah 64:8-, is represented by 10 toes of the feet of the Nebuchadnezzar's estatue.
The roots of the Gentile Beast of sea, the Papacy, a religious MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy, the main partner of the red Dragon- Revelation 12:3-4 & 9, yeah, the roots of the Gentile Beast of sea-the Papacy, are described in Revelation 13:2. In this current decade must be elected the last Pope, the next, and to this last Pope the dragon- Revelation 13:11-, will give him his Power, and his Throne(in JERUSALEM), and great Authority. Both as a RELIGIOUS AND SATANIC MONSTER-Catholicism and Judaism-iron and clay-, both will establish an Universal and religious kingdom- Daniel 2:41-44 combined with Luke 21:24 and Revelation 11:2. Take a look.
There will be a terrible spiritual War in the Earth from now on- Revelation 16:13-15.
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Revelation 21:8 - The fearful(COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
The sacrifice of JESUS until the current time lasted around 727000 days-THE DAILY SACRIFICE WILL BE TAKE AWAY WHEN THE JEWISH FALSE MESSIAH-THE BEAST LIKE A LAMB( Revelation 13:11-18 and John 5:43-47SIT IN HIS THRONE IN JERUSALEM- THEN THE PLACE OF THE SANCTUARY WILL BE CAST DOWN, as was prophesied by Daniel. Daniel 7:7-8 & 11.
Dan.7:7-and behold a fourth Beast,dreadful and terrible,and strong exceedingly;and it had great iron teeth:it devoured and brake in pieces,and stamped the residue with the feet of it:and it was diverse from all the Beasts that were before it;and it had ten horns.
8-I considered the(10)horns,and,behold,there came up among them another little horn,...and,behold,in this(little)horn were eyes like the eyes of MAN,and a mouth speaking great things. Yea,he(the little horn,by his mouth)shall magnify himself(magnified as God)even to the prince of the host(it is Michael- Revelation 12:7),and by him (by the Jewish false messiah-the little horn)the daily sacrifice will be taken away,and the place of the sanctuary will be cast down.
The false lamb/messiah( John 5:43),he is also a Jew,and he is from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, maybe from the tribe of Dan as Jacob prophesied- Genesis 49:16-17. He shall rise up from the earth-from Israel-from one of the ten tribes of Israel-HE IS THE LITTLE HORN.
The false lamb- John 5:43-has two horns like a lamb.Two horns represent the two kingdoms of Israel,but he will rise up from one of the 10 tribes,as prophesied Jacob. Genesis 49:16-17.
8And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father and you will no longer see Me; 11and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world has been condemned.
"And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." ( Revelation 5:13)
"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." ( John 20:29).
Starting with the middle verse; I thought it interesting to consider that IF this is to be taken chronologically; IMMEDIATELY after the Rapture and before the onset of the first seal being opened; everyone will praise God and Christ. I had originally noted that this occurs at the sixth seal; when mankind runs away from God and realizes His judgments have begun. This brings to mind what was said in the passage from John; we don't want to wake up in the Tribulation and have to face the horrors of that time and martyrdom to boot which will be the basic change once everything is revealed; the church age is over and the saints are to be overcome ( Daniel 7:25).
The Spirit reflects Christ in its operation. When Jesus spoke it was often in regard to bringing out the full meaning of the law (lust and anger) as general teaching to the crowd; or specific allegations to a group of Pharisees in particular as well as lawyers.
The Spirit causes individuals to have a general conviction of sin because we have a sense of God's holiness against our own condition. The end result of sin is death ( Romans 6:23) and hell. Godly sorrow brings repentance (and life) worldly sorrow death.
Daniel 8:23-25 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
To understand the first seal of Revelation which is parallel to the " Daniel 9:27" covenant; we have to gain wisdom and understanding on what exactly the white horse of Revelation 6:1-2 represents. We can see a similar concept here to the Mahdi of Islam; who is said to come this exact way on a white horse and makes a seven year pact (from what I can tell is in a Hadith rather than specifically mentioned in the Koran but I don't want to focus on that here). My point is the idea of peace through force or SUBMISSION. The point in verse 24 of Daniel 8 is also translated as causing "astonishing devestation". This would likely be the scenario where he takes over the 3 nations of the 10 mentioned in Daniel 7:8. That would possibly be related to a limited nuclear conflict but could of course be a type of "blitzkrieg" that is a sudden assault rendering enemies helpless. SInce this is a power struggle that could be the emphasis here.
These passages also show judgment by God; even in false peace. Jeremiah 6:14 and 8:11 bolster what is seen in Thessalonians about false peace ( 1 Thess. 5:3). The world shall believe in "THE LIE" in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 and the Jews will believe in another who comes in his own name as John 5:43 shows with Jesus warning His own people with what they indeed WILL do in the future. God will use men and Satan to do His will.
Anyone with access to a concordance; even a basic list in small print of corresponding verses shows the integrity and cohesiveness of all of the Bible; both Old and New Testaments. This dwarfs the historical references in the Apocrypha; in which many of the details that are verifiable are in Maccabees; 1 and 2. The feast of Dedication is found in the N.T. but not mentioned specifically in the Old; hence Maccabees is helpful describing this as well. These facts are important for archaeological and historical accuracy as well as the veracity of the teachings in the Bible; whether in the old covenant of the law or the New Covenant. When we compare information in scripture to other secular teachings and those of other faiths; we see elemental truths as well as the same events clearly indicated in many cases; or closely paralleled.
In the case of the law; for example there are repetitive passages in the Pentateuch in regard; for instance to the 10 commandments found in Exodus and Deuteronomy; then Jesus quotes many of the same passages when contenting with the Pharisees to expound the deeper meanings of intentions of the heart when it comes to marriage and divorce; hatred for someone; and lustful thoughts. Love your neighbor as yourself comes from Leviticus 19:18 which I wasn't even aware of until recently.
The empires of history are in Daniel as well as the final world government summarized in Daniel 7:4-6 and Revelation 13:2.
We see the same cross references relating to most of the major events of the Tribulation especially found in the endo of chapter 11 and all of 12 in Daniel. Jesus Himself in Matthew 24:15 stated the importance of Daniel's visions from Daniel 12:11. This also was foreshadowed in the story in Maccabees about Antiochus Epiphanes which time frame is alluded to in parts of Daniel 11 that seem to shift into the time of the end in verse 40.
We do well to study the Word as the Bereans did ( 2 Tim. 2:15).
The question that arises is this; since we are "grafted in" hence Jews and Gentiles are part of God's elect in this age as we see illlustrated in Romans 11. If we continue to verse 23; however we see that even Jews are grafted in once they believe in the truth about Jesus. ( Romans 11:25). We also see this principle in Luke 21:24 as well as various Old Testament scriptures about the Resurrection of all saints ( Daniel 12:13) and King David himself ruling with Christ ( Daniel 7:27 and other passages). There are those who stubbornly only consider these promises to be fulfilled in the church and say God is done with Israel. This helps to discount a millennium as something which is symbolic of the church (even though that has lasted almost 2000 years now since Pentecost). I would say that we need to draw the line if there is a display of antisemitism; for instance with a superiority complex developing because of these theories. Admittedly there is much evil among all; including those Jews who are living in unbelief when we see; for instance Tel Aviv and the abominations of those living out a lifestyle like Sodom ( Revelation 13:16-17). We also need to seek out individuals whether Jew or Gentile to preach the Good News; without partiality to anyone. Finally; there is difficulty with some in regard to sacrifices actually occurring in the Millennium; deeming them an abomination as Christ has already fulfilled all things necessary. That would depend on the purpose of these; as to commemorating God and having a ceremonial purification; for instance. Such activity would help to bring all to worship in Israel; fulfilling prophecies such as Isaiah 56:7 and Zechariah 14:17. Despite all this; I wouldn't consider this essential doctrine to break fellowship but important nonetheless to get a correct grip on the rest of scriptures to avoid what could be bigger error of essential truths.
Part one.
Thank you for continuing the discussion, I also tremble at His word we are just a spec compared to our God. Deuteronomy 18:15-19 This to me is fulfilled in John 1:1 the word of God in Jesus the Messiah. When Jesus was anointed the Messiah every word that Jesus said was the word of God the word of God in the flesh of His Son. Everything that was created was created by the word of God, not His Son. God said let there be, and it was.
If we read Isaiah 66:1 we cannot imagine how large God can be. He can overwhelm all of what we can imagine. In my human mind, I see His Spirit cover the earth like a dome, omnipresent, it is like an electrical grid that believers plug into, I know that may sound weird.
John 17 I will do my best to show my understanding, this is just before Jesus was going to be nailed to the cross. Verses 1-5 Jesus is praying to the Father about Himself, the Father is God, when we pray, we pray to our Father, and we relate to God as Father, through the Bible Father means God and Jesus said to His Father He is the only true God. In and through Jesus Christ we become sons and daughters of God, so we cry out Abba, Father, Galatians 4:6.
Jesus said He had finished the work the Father had given to Him and Jesus glorified His Father on earth. Jesus is now ready to face death on the cross and fulfilling the law and the prophet's, all of what Scripture had said what He would become, and Jesus was ready to take His place on the right hand of His Father, Isaiah 53:12 Jeremiah 23:5-6 2 Samuel 7:12-13 Psalm 110:4 Psalm 16:10, these are just a few verses that Jesus would have known about Himself.
In Daniel 7:13-14 Daniel had a prophetic vision of Jesus's ascension and God the Father giving His Son Jesus dominion and glory overall and giving Him the kingdom. God showed Daniel this was with God in the beginning, in God's plan but did not come to fruition until Jesus ascended in Acts 1:9.
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So, why all of a sudden with Christ's birth, death, and resurrection, do we suddenly decide that God has provided eternal security for us? If according to Psalms 55:19, 102:27, Daniel 7:14, Malachi 3:6 and Hebrews 1:12, 13:8, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit do not change, then let's quit convincing ourselves they do. Have a good Thanksgiving and thanks for your time...
PS OT saints got in the book of Life the 'old-fashioned' way, trust and obedience. It works every time. Amen.
Changes made by the pope:
1. The 10 commandments. Compare the Catholic 10 commandments to any Bible translation which is based upon the Textus Receptus. In English, that is the KJV.
2. The day of worship. God rested on the SEVENTH day and blessed it. NOT SUNDAY! The sabbath is Saturday.
3. The Gregorian calendar changed God's calendar. God's calendar is based on the moon, and the new year in the spring.
4. The daily clock. God said a new day begins at sunset. The pope said the new day begins at midnight.
"And he shall speak words against the most high and shall wear out the saints of the most high AND HE SHALL THINK TO CHANGE THE TIMES AND THE LAW:" emphasis mine. KJV Daniel 7:25.
How will be this partnership between the MAN Beast of the sea(sea are peoples,and nations,and multitudes of all tongues- Revelation 17:15),and the MAN Beast of the earth that is like a lamb,a false lamb,a false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR- John 5:43-,yeah, how will be this partnership?
Revelation 13:2 gives us the answer for this question, that is:
To the MAN Beast of sea which is like unto a leopard,and his feet as the feet of a bear,and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(actually it refers the roots of this satanic Gentile Beast- Daniel 7:4-6, yeah, to him the false messiah-the dragon-Rev.13:11-,will give his Power, and his Seat(in Jerusalem, where is the Throne of Satan),and great Authority-Rev.13:2,and Power will be given unto the MAN Beast of sea-to the last of the Popes or Papacy,for forty and two months- Revelation 13:5.By the way,this period of 42 months ruled by the last Pope sat in the Throne of the false messiah in Jerusalem is the FIRST HALF of the last week-week 70th, Daniel 9:27,so Catholicism(iron)and the esoteric and kabbalistic Judaism(the clay)both will be together to establish an Universal and satanic religious kingdom,and then will LITERALLY be fulfilled what my Lord JESUS prophesied: "...and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles(with the Pope enthroned in Jerusalem by the false messiah),until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled-that is the fullness of the Gentiles"- Luke 21:24 combined with Revelation 11:2
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Throughout history; we see two approaches toward the church by either the left leaning leadership (such as under Communist China today) or the right leaning totalitarian dictatorship (Hitler). We see infiltration of the church by the state to constrain and monitor what is taught; or we see the leader himself taken up with a Messianic type adoration who is to be worshipped more or less as a savior. The other option is widespread persecution; looting and burning of houses of worship and executions of believers. Either extreme politically brings about lawlessness eventually; from the revolutions and overthrow of the establishment that is encouraged from the outset; to mock trials which never adhere to even the written codes for justice; to vast excesses with leadership who live in luxury while the rest of society struggles to survive. When Antichrist arrives he will claim to be God to some extent; but be "self made" and deny the father and the son ( 1 John 2:22-23).
When the Daniel 9:27 covenant is made; clearly we see other related verses describing a "man of intrigue" ( Dan. 11:21) who divides the land for gain ( Daniel 11:39) understanding "dark sentences" ( Dan. 8:23); i.e. occult mindset. Money and power broker status has always been the driving force for those in the elite to control the world and enrich themselves. It is clear that we are near an agreement or confirming that covenant with many which will allow the Temple to function and give Israel what seems like a peace arrangement with surrounding nations. At the appointed time it will happen; but also end seven years later
( Daniel 7:26).
Agape. RIch P
One world government needs to be discussed at present. There are alliances as I said before that could be considered part of the divided Roman empire of the last days such as expressed in Daniel 2:40-41. This kingdom will have the strength of iron but be divided and not cling as clay and historically; of course we see Rome as being the western capital; and Constantinople being the eastern capital. Part of this involves the Papal authority and Eastern; Greek and or Russian Orthodox church in charge of the other "leg" so to speak if that is interpreted correctly. This final beast is going to take over the whole world; that is pretty clear from verses in Daniel and Revelation 13. It would seem pitting nations against one another would allow the final 10 nations to rule one hour with Antichrist (see the 3 subdued in Daniel 7:24). This is the final religious; and economic world government under the "Mystery Babylon" rule when the woman rides the Beast ( Rev. 17:13); then later in the second half of the Tribulation ANtichrist destroys the system and its ruling city with fire ( Rev. 17:16). The religious center starting this year in Abu Dhabi and other such concepts has allowed all monotheistic faiths to be at one facility. It seems clear through cooperative efforts today with the Saudi's and even some effort by Turkey in the background that the Temple will be rebuilt with some international agreement on control of the Temple Mount.
For now; we must be aware what is going on but continue to be the salt and light of the world; warning about the conflagration to come. The net that all nations will be led into the seive of destruction is coming. ( Isaiah 30:28). It is a trap coming for the whole world ( Luke 21:24) and we need to remain focused and not be taken aback at His sudden return to take His church home; praying always to be worthy to escape all the things to come and stand before the Son of Man ( Luke 21:36).