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Wally,

I agree that the bible uses the word sleep or sleepeth as a term for death. It is the physical body that is put in the grave and the physical body lying there gives the appearance of a person sleeping. We know that Lazarus was dead for a few days and Jesus said he was sleeping. So yes, sleep does refer to death, physical death.

However, there is a living spirit/soul in everyone that departs the physical body upon death. The physical body goes into the grave but the soul departs immediately.

You mention that "The Bible clearly states that there will be those who are thrown into the Lake of Fire which is symbolic of total, complete, elimination, never to be seen again."

I say those who are cast into the Lake of Fire are those who were not part of the first resurrection. When you say elimination, do you mean the same as annihilation? My understanding is that those who are cast into the lake of fire will neither be eliminated nor annihilated, but will suffer for eternity.

I do believe that when a believer dies (Physical death) their soul immediately is in the presence of the Lord. You say that a person "does not go directly to Heaven or Hell, nor anywhere for that matter, but the grave? But then add that the grave is Hell." That sounds contradicting. If they don't go to Heaven or Hell, but you say the grave is Hell, where do they go?

Paul said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Where's the Lord? Jesus dying on the cross told the man on the cross next to Him that today you will be with me in paradise. That man died. Where did he go? Paradise doesn't sound much like Hell to me.

Your advice on reading the Holy Bible is great advice. It's how we grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. As far as a 501C3 preacher goes, I do not know what that is? I do know that there are some great pastors/bible teachers out there. But, as the Bereans did, we are to search the scriptures to see if those things line up!

What is the book of Enoch always a part of the Bible then it was taken out like the apocrypha ?

Should a person take the covid19 vaccine or just trust in God to protect you from the virus

Hello Christina,

Here are a couple verses for you: Matthew 8:16, Matthew 8:28-32, Matthew 9:32-33, Mark 1:23-26, Mark 1:34,

Mark 1:39, Mark 5:2-13, Mark 7:25-30, Luke 4:33-36, Luke 4:41, Luke 11:14.

Some may be of the same account just a different book.

God Bless.

There is a place called Hades that Jesus went to for three days and three nights. And in Hades, there were compartments, as we know from Luke Chapter 16. The Old Testament saints were there on one side, and those who rejected were on the other side and were in torment.

So Jesus, when He dismissed His Spirit on the cross, He went down and proclaimed the victory. And when He rose from the dead, many of the Old Testament saints appeared, and they revealed themselves to many in Jerusalem.

According to 1 Corinthians Chapter 15, we know that Jesus revealed Himself to people for 40 days. At one time, 500 people, as witnesses to the resurrection of Christ.

Who did people believe Jesus Was

Not sure about Lazarus being dead nor the rich man nor Father Abraham in the story told by the Son of God. There was complete separation between Lazarus in the comfort of the bosom of Abraham and the rich man. We also know the rich man was of thirst and willing for any possible chance of recovery. If no recovery was possible at least a warning to his brethren who thought they understood their place in Abraham like he did when he was alive in the flesh. The gulf between the eternal blessing upon Lazarus and the eternal separation thereof of the rich man is the difference between heaven and hell. The body (flesh) of Jesus was crucified unto death for us if we can be that one whom the dogs licked the sores of by the gate.

Hello Peter,

You have come to the right place. There are many people very learned in the Scriptures here on this site that very much enjoy answering question and helping others in need. If you have any questions please post and we will try to help you along in your journey reading the Holy Bible.

God Bless.

Hi Wally58,

So it's seeming that you know everything about after this life in your post? What would you say to all the people who have had NDE experiences and have been dead. Experiencing things like Jesus Christ, a Heavenly place, others who were deceased, a Hell like place of darkness, out of body experiences, etc? Miracles coming back to life. Some of these people being atheist and this is what converted them to the Lord. I have met one personally myself. Would you just call them all liars?

What would you say to me about all my experiences that most in this world, probably you as well, probably would not believe? After giving my life to Jesus Christ.

So you do not believe in the resurrection of Christ?

God makes the rules not men and no preacher taught me anything. The Holy Ghost is my teacher.

God Bless.

HI, Did the Pharaoh also go into the Red Sea with his army and also die with them when God parted the Red Sea?

What happened to the dead, while the graves were opened before his resurrection?

Were they a)I've but could not move?

What was their state of mind if they had any?

My comment is that, I am in dial need to be guided through as I make effort to be able to have proper grasp of the content of the bible as I go along with maximum support from people who know better.

Hi Wally58 ,thankyou soo much for that ,simple truth !

the book of jeremiah i love

Hello Janoyce,

Just to expand a little more to the truth S Spencer shared with you. As recently someone had a question similar to yours. The Love of God, Jesus Christ, is beyond what we can imagine. What I perceive as more important to ask is "do I love Jesus Christ"?

God is Holy and hates sin. To repent from the sins of this world, giving your life to Him, and live to do His Will is very important. I will just leave a couple Scriptures for you showing how important it is for us to love Him with all our heart, soul, and mind. Our love for Him shall not be forgotten.

Deuteronomy 7:9, Deuteronomy 10:12-13, Psalms 31:23, Psalms 97:10, Psalms 145:20, Proverbs 8:17, John 14:21,

James 1:12, James 2:5,

God Bless.

Where in the Bible does Jesus perform an exorcism

Maria,

My understanding is that the woman represents Israel, and the child is Christ. My reason for believing that the woman is Israel and the child is Christ comes from Genesis Chapter 37, the story of Joseph and his brothers, where we get the sun and the moon, and the twelve stars.

The sun and moon represented his parents, and the 12 stars represented the twelve tribes of Israel. This is referring to the nation Israel. And the Messiah was prophesied to come through Israel.

Revelation 12:5 gives us the description of the male child: It says "And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron:" That's the Messiah in Psalm Chapter 2 Verses 8 and 9. And then it goes on to say that her child was caught up unto God. That's the ascension. And to His throne!

And then Revelation 12:6 tells us that the woman (Israel/Jews) fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days, or 3-1/2 years.

Many believe that this is the rock city of Petra that is already supplied with food out in the wilderness, so that when those who are sealed by God, the 144,000 especially, they will have a place to go.

Dahg,

Thank you so much for pointing that out. I know very little Hebrew so I did learn some as I did a little research on the Hebrew meaning of Har. As you mentioned, it does refer to either a mountain or a hill, not a valley. I also understand that the battle of Armageddon will take place in the valley of Meggido. Surrounding this valley is a group of small hills. Many OT battles took place in this same valley.

I would be interested in you sharing more on this if you wish to. Mainly, is there an actual mountain called Mt. Megiddo?

Thanks again for the clarification!

Hello Rick, thank you for your question. If a comment receives enough 'reports' it will be removed from a discussion thread like that. God bless...

What is so sad the world has such a grip; people do not even take the time to read, much less study the Bible. They put their souls in the hands of man and walk blind and deaf. Many live in a routine, listen to feel good sermons taking the word of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

They called it the resurrection day which now is called Easter. It was on the Feast of First Fruits one of the three Feasts they were required to have in Jerusalem. It was the first day after the Sabbath following Passover, it was in the middle of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Now it has no relation to that day.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

May the scriptures with the guidance of the Holy Spirit lead our way. Ron

In the preexistence Lucifer did not become jelaous at once.

Jealousy is a progress and initially not necessary evil.

When jealousy increases and pride increases evilness may become the fruits thereof

The Bible says there was a War In Heaven and that the Dragon and one third of the Stars

were cast out.

Therefore we can assume in the great heaven that evilness started to grow due to Lucifers

first non good intentions.

Hi Janoyce.

God IS Love, He's also Holy, He's also Just, He's also Truth.

None of these attributes fails him.

and they all play an equal role in our salvation.

God Loves us so he provided us a sacrificial Lamb. "Jesus"

And He's Just!!!

Tho he Loves us, that doesn't void hi justice, A Christian WONT continue in sinful "practices"

John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

He's Holy and Truth, so he sent us his Spirit to create in us a NEW Heart. "The Holyspirit"

1 Corinthians 13:4-8 (KJV) Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

God is Love but He's also Holy, ang Judge righteously.

Hope that helps.

read this Isaiah 14:9-15 (KJV)

[9] Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. [10] All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? [11] Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. [12] How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! [13] For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: [14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. [15] Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Proverbs 1:19 reminded me of a parables that JESUS spoke in ST Matthew a Owner had some property went away

and rent them to some farmer the day of harvest is now come he send is servants to ask of them

to send some of the harvest and they beat and kill all who the owner had sent to them so the owner decide to sent is only son, hoping they would show him some respect, but they did not they

kill the owner son. because they wanted to take over the property knowing they're not the owner it's no different from GOD send is prophets to warn is people and they were killed

by the wicked. so now GOD sent is only loving son JESUS to accomplished what was not

and he die but will return as KING and punished all who did not fellow is command

so will the owner of the VINYARD did just that punish and take back what did not belonging to them. These men did not use WISDOM on any level. They allowed the an evil spirit to take them over and will end up losing everything in the natural and spiritual.

wow, that is a tough question? there is Jealousy in God therefore I would say that there is Jealously in heaven. King James Bible Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; New King James Version you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.

Who are the Woman and Child in Revelation 12? I think the Child could represent Israel, but not sure who the Woman represents.

When you are dead, you are, for lack of better words, ASLEEP! You do not go directly to Heaven or Hell, nor anywhere for that matter, but the grave - which is Hell. Per the Strong's Concordance, Hell = Sheol, covered pit or hole in the ground - grave. So, in effect, we ALL go to HELL in death. When dead, you see nothing, know nothing, hear nothing, think nothing, period. You are just waiting for Christ to return and resurrect you from the dead state. If you are not raised, then perhaps that is eternal separation from YAHWEH GOD, which might be called Hell or damnation in a general sense. The Bible clearly states that there will be those who are thrown into the "Lake of Fire" which is symbolic of total, complete, elimination, never to be seen again. Going to heaven after death was not mentioned in the Old Testament, but "Sleeping with My Fathers" was several times, such as old Jacob Israel said to Joseph. Heaven as a place of after-death-living was a fairly recent skewing of Biblical text. Christ Yahshua told us Himself that "No man but the one standing before you has been to Heaven" or words to that effect. Heaven is another dimension that we are not privy to. And remember, Christ is COMING TO EARTH, not us going to Him in Heaven. Remember, several of the myths of going to Heaven are taken from Christ's Parables such as the Rich Man and Lazarus. Christ spoke of the Rich man being across a gulf which was purely symbolic. Parables were ONLY for illustrating a point and were NOT to be taken literally. There is no gulf where you go to rest and where you can see folks in Heaven and they can see you as well. Christ Himself did not simply "morph" from one state to another after dying on the cross. He was DEAD AS A DOORNAIL and in Sheol for 3 days and nights. He did not go visiting folks in a mythical Hell nor go anywhere for that matter. Otherwise, he did not actually die and therefore, did not cleanse you of your sins. Stop listening to your 501C3 preacher and read the HB

Since God's eyes are in every place; it's a blessing to understand that God is still a mystery, therefore He can do what his Holy Word is! Remember God created all things, therefore He can utilize anyone or any thing, to get His Will done! Be blessed!

Is God still,in charge Or Jesus?

Epic chapter! How selfish are we these days to say I must take care of myself first so I can be of help to you later. This widow woman did as Elijah the stranger ask and gave him the first slice of bread and God rewarded her by reviving her child thru Elijah.