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Carleton
God bless, Ron
May the Spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS knowledge.
Revelation is about the kingdom of heaven, CHRIST IN YOU AND YOU IN CHRIST.
Ephesians 2:15
Luke 17:21
Colossians 1:27
This chapter is a vision of the finished work of the cross.
Revelation 15:1 ....having the seven last plagues, in them (plagues) is filled up the wrath of God.
These plagues had to be fulfilled before the kingdom of heaven is possible.
(vs 2) The sea is symbolic of people ( Revelation 17:15) the fire is symbolic of Christ ( Hebrews 12:29) these have become one with Christ ( John 17:21)( Ephesians 2:15).
(vs 3-4) The praises to God for their salvation.
(vs 5) Access to the temple is near. The temple is symbolic of Christ. Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up ( John 2:19)
(vs 6-7) The wrath of God is now ready to be poured out.
(vs 8) .....no man is able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels be fulfilled.
Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him...
THE WRATH OF GOD WAS POURED OUT ON CHRIST, the last plague being death; now we can enter the temple (CHRIST IN YOU AND YOU IN CHRIST) Christ has become our PASSOVER LAMB, death has passed over us.
Hebrews 11:5 By FAITH Enoch was TRANSLATED that he should not see death .....
Colossians 1:13 .... and hath TRANSLATED us into the kingdom of his dear Son
Pardon my redundancy but since this is a dalvation issue allow me to confirm; you have been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (and not the titles Father Son and Holy Ghost) for the remission of sins?
Verily what you said that The Father (God), The Word (God) and the Holy Ghost (God) are one. However, if you happen to believe that the word; Word actually means Christ, or Son of God, then unfortunately you have been deceived by rome's sorcerers/ theologians. JOHN 1:1 KJV 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Amen.
The word, Word means written or spoken unit of communication. Just like these words I am writing to you here. They are my word (aside from my Father's word -1 Perer 4:11 :) and they are with me.
In summary, getting back to the original question at hand: yes, the Holy Scriptures clearly show that every time someone received the Gift of the Holy Ghost in the book of Acts, the initial manifestation and evidence of it is that they would speak in an unknown tongue (be it of men or angels) and prophesy and magnify God, Hallelujah! This is not to misconstrue the initial evidence of having received the Gift with the individual 'gift of diverse tongues' or being able to speak in known languages of men without ever having learned them (Paul speaks of this in 1 Corinthians 12).
So yes, in summary, all who receive the gift of the Holy Ghost will speak in an unknown tongue as the Spirit gives them utterance. However not all have the gift of diverse tongues. Covet the best gifts.
I hope this helps you so that you can press in in prayer and praise and receive the Gift, as Jesus said in Luke 11:13 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
Amen.
We don't want to boast of a false gift as that would make us like what is spoken of in Proverbs 25:14, & Jude 1:12 if we continue.
Be well
Amen! Lord says he is God alone! There is no one with him in the Godhead! He says he knows not any:
Isaiah
40: 25
41: 4
42: 8
43: 10, 11,
44: 6, 8, 24
45: 5, 6, 14, 18, 21, 22
46: 5, 9
48: 12
Study this.
Be blessed in Jesus name.
Got me thinking again!
Carleton
I will just leave the verse from Jesus Christ instead of saying it myself. Matthew 12:36-37.
God Bless you.
Although is this not what this discussion was about? Needing to speak in "tongues" to know you have the Holy Ghost? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
God Bless.
As I agree with you there are many false teachers/doctrines out in the world today. The only one I feel is not false, although can be taken out of context like anything, is the trinity. Only meaning the Father, the Word, and Holy Ghost are one. Tri(three) +unity(joined/one)= the word trinity. Which I believe.
Let's stay on track with what we began to discuss though. Being "tongues" is needed to prove, or show, you have the Holy Ghost? If this is off please correct me.
Your question of "have I been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" is yes.
Thank you. God Bless.
I am in no way frustrated. Your question of "in" or "on" has nothing to do with what started our conversation. Please don't think I called you a fool sir. The question was foolish to me. When Jesus spake(or Isaiah himself) Luke 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me" does that mean He was not filled with the Spirit of God? Or was it just "upon" Him? Not seeing any reason to give thought to that detail. Just to show "on" or "in" is in Scripture and doesn't seem to make much of a difference. And that being about the Spirit of the Lord being "in" or "on".
So back to thinking "spirit" and "ghost" are different for some reason. Even stating in the original Greek texts there is no "spirit" or "ghost". It is the same word. What do you reply to that? Also no reply about Luke 11:13 etc?
Maybe another thing. You state there is no unforgivable sin. Which Jesus spake in Matthew 31-32 that there is. Are you against the teachings of Jesus Christ?
You also state there will be no more Jesus Christ one day? Is not God all in all now? Is he not the source of all life and the Creator of everything? His knowledge, wisdom, is surpassing anything anyone can even comprehend. He knows everything because He is in everything.
Then you stated "God the Father would be judged as mistaken" for whatever reason. God cannot be judged by anyone or anything. He is the Almighty and He does whatever He pleases. As you wrote "God makes no mistakes" which is correct. Then why would have Jesus spake of an unforgivable sin. But you say there isn't? It seems you have come to your own conclusion on this and surpassed the Word of God?
Jesus Christ is our Savior and Salvation sent by our Father. He is the only way to the Father and I don't think He's ever going anywhere.
Seeing as you are and elder saying "you have studied the Bible for 60 years" I shall patiently wait for your reply to the couple questions I stated. If you would like. With respect.
God Bless.
According to Jewish law, Herod was committing adultery. That is why John said it is unlawful for you to have your brother's wife.
Leviticus 18:16 says "Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness."
Again in Leviticus 20:21, it says "And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless.
You nailed it! People need to hear the message. There are two words side by side you wrote that really stood out; "God leads!" He leads. If we are doing it out of ambition or a sense of obligation, the Lord's not going to bless that. If He's not in it, then our labor is done in vain, even if we're "doing it for the Lord."
I agree that much Bible prophecy has already been fulfilled. 69 weeks have passed. We have not come to the 70th week yet. I believe the next event to happen is the rapture of the church. And from the rapture of the church until the second coming of Christ, it is called the 70th week of Daniel. We have had 69 weeks, 483 years. And those 483 years ended at the crucifixion of Christ.
But now, there is this time period which is called the time of the Gentiles, between the death of Christ, and His coming for His church. We don't know the time frame, but as soon as the church is removed, there will be seven years, one week in Jewish literature. There will be seven years of tribulation.
We're running this race together. Never be discouraged. We'll all reach the finish line because Christ sees to it. We just have to be careful how we run it because we will not all be rewarded the same.
Just as in Luke 9:51 where Jesus had His eyes fixed on Jerusalem. When it was time for Him to go and die, He was fixed to go to Jerusalem. You couldn't get Him off track. That's how we are to run our race, having our eyes fixed on Christ.
Hebrews 12:2, "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
He's the author and finisher. He saves us, sets the race before us, and sees it through to its completion. Sometimes the race is hard to run. We get sidetracked with everyday life and lose our focus. But we will finish the race no doubt. Christ in us will bring us to the finish line.
Have a blessed day in Christ!
The singular word "Scripture" occurs approximately thirty-one times in the New Testament. The singular usage usually speaks of a particular passage and a specific context within the whole.
The plural usage refers to all of the whole Body of GOD's Inspired Word. When Paul wrote this verse, he most assuredly referred to the Body of Scriptures now referred to as the Old Testament, and of which includes the Body of GOD's Promises "by HIS prophets" (cp. Lu. 1:70; Ac. 3:18 & 21; Rom. 1:2; Eph. 3:5).
This plurality includes
+ "all the Scriptures" (Lu. 24:27);
+ the combined "Scriptures of the [individual]
prophets" ( Rom. 16:26); and
+ "other Scriptures" ( 2Pet. 3:16).
When GOD's people read, believe, accept, and obey the Scriptures, they can't help but receive a keen sense of Christian confidence and spiritual hope. This hope comes directly from GOD as proclaimed in the following verse (v.5) through HIS DIVINELY Inspired Scriptures.
The Scriptures are in truth, in fact, and in reality, GOD's literal verbal communication to HIS people. They provide hope, for they contain GOD's guaranteed DIVINE Prophecies and Promises to ultimately save and deliver all HIS people from this cursed world, and from their present body prone to sin and death.
Moreover, through the Scriptures, GOD communicates HIS guaranteed Assurances to Glorify HIS people to enjoy the Heavenly Splendors of Eternal Life in the very Presence of their SAVIOR and REDEEMER, LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. ( Matthew 23:15)
And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness. ( Luke 11:39)
Jesus was perceived as a threat to the religious leaders so they conspired to kill him:
Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. ( John 11:47-48)
Even Pilate saw through their facade:
But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews? For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy. ( Mark 15:9-10)
The great wonder of this is that God knew all this and worked it all together to provide the needed sacrifice for our sins through his Son Jesus Christ:
Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. ( Acts 2:23-24)
Revelation 13
v. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
v. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
v. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
v. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six
1. He causeth all to receive the mark in their right hand or forehead
2. No one can buy or sell without the name of the beast or the number of his name.
3. His number is 666
4. People will be killed who will not take it
God Bless your writing.
Carleton
If so how does that translate to marriage? Like Adam makes sure Eve keeps the sanctity of marriage and doesn't fall prey to dodgy things of this world?
How does one interpret this?
Tom
So no answer to my question of "where have you heard this"? Again, the Spirit of Truth, the Comforter, and the Holy Ghost are all spoken of as one in John 14. Also as I have stated that the word "ghost" and "spirit" are the same Greek word in the Greek texts. Just translated to two English words that mean the same thing. Is not the word Holy more important than "ghost" or "spirit"? If it is Holy it is from God.
So in places like Luke 11:13 is Jesus speaking of another "spirit or ghost" than in John or anywhere else? How's John 7:39? There are many other verses also that speak of "the Spirit of God" and the "Spirit of Christ" being in you after you are saved. Romans 8:9, ( 1 Corinthians 3:16, Ephesians 4:30.
Do you know of ( 1 John 5:7? Where it states the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost are one?
Seeing as you have not given an answer to my one question I shall not entertain your foolish question. Which has nothing to do with our discussion.
Thank you for your time. I hope what I have posted shall open your eyes.
God Bless.