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Yes l do.. And my question is why did God use the word good /evil when he spoke to our first parents.. Do remember this is before they sinned.. Please elaborate..

Thankyou..

If one mistakes the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost as one and the same, confusion will occur. Blaspheme of the Holy Ghost Is an impossibility. So there are no unforgivable sins. The Holy Ghost is an anointing given by God through His Son, Jesus Christ to those worthy. If defilement could occur then God the Father would be judged as mistaken, heaven forbid. God makes no mistakes.

Thank you for correcting me Adam. God Bless you.

I'm learning the bible so I would like to refer to commentary

2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Just letting you know it does. (This is for the comment that the Bible don't say Christians have to be judged). (KJV)

Yes the bible help inspired my life in christ

There are 3 judgments to include Babylon.

I agree with everything in your post Carleton.

You decide to live free again. The person who made you bitter doesn't even think about it. You're eaten up with bitterness and only you are hurting.

There will be no feelings of relief or joy for some time. Every thought that strays to the bitterness: just say I forgive you (or even I forgive me)

It may take a 1000 times... just be obedient.

One day you'll realize it's gone. The bitterness is gone. You're free. Forever.

There's a movie I love about this very thing. Most super spiritual people hate it. It helped me.

It's called The Shack.

The guy who played in Avatar acts in it.

Selective focus and cherrypicking seems to be the common root of the argument for once saved always saved. Otherwise, scripture clearly refutes that through so many scriptures, like Hebrews 10:26, Hebrews 6:4, etc. And the next layer of selective focus is ignoring obedience to Jesus, but putting more focus on it being bad to do good 'works' and be 'legalistic' as if that's sin to be obey God. That twisted idea sounds awfully familiar as if it doesn't come from God, but the opposite of God. The father of lies absolutely loves twisting things- that it's 'bad' to do good. Does Jesus say it's 'bad' to obey Him? John 14:15.

So, who will I listen to? Man, satan, or Jesus? Easy decision for me. It's good to do good, despite what 'progressive' Christian culture may claim. Doing good doesn't mean you're trying to 'earn' your way into heaven, as some claim. And some falsely assume you don't believe in grace either if you believe doing good is good. I hope people don't try to slander Christians who try to obey Jesus. If Jesus was alive today, some would probably accuse Him of being legalistic and works based too. The works vs grace is already explained in the Bible, James 2, Romans 11, etc. People end up being disproportionate emphasis on one or the other, but the Bible already predicted this difficulty which is why they wrote so much about it in the Bible to explain. Pray for God for wisdom and understanding and read the Bible not to confirm what you want to believe, or what you were already taught by men, but to understand what God's Word actually says. God bless.

Yes, it does. Read 2 Corinthians 5:10.

This is a cat and mouse game. I'm waiting to find out if David loyalty to King Saul goes away to finally do what is right and take over as King. Saul loses sight of what is important and leaves his land defenseless.

Amen, Jesse,

When asked the greatest commandment, Jesus replied, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Mat 22:37-40.

Maybe it's just me, but I have failed this many times each day of my life!

Jesus ended part of his Sermon on the Mount with these words, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Mat 5:48.

Me, not even close!

But don't loose heart. Jesus also said, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand."Joh 10:27-29.

Jesus call these sheep, and me, MY sheep.

"ALL that the Father giveth me SHALL COME TO ME; and him that cometh to me I WILL IN NO WISE CAST OUT. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of ALL which he hath given me I SHOULD LOSE NOTHING, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."Joh 6:37-40.

"And this is the record, that God HATH given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that HATH the Son HATH life; and he that HATH NOT the Son of God HATH NOT life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1Jn 5:11-13.

Philippians 1:6 HE WILL PERFORM IT.

I think there are many quotes that Christians use that are not found in the Bible, Jesus dying for sin, past, present, and future being one of them.

Even though that quote is not found in scripture, I believe the concept is there. I believe Jesus died for all my sin.

Peter said in 1 Peter 2:24 that Jesus bore our sins (plural) in His body on the cross.

The way I see it is that I wasn't even born yet when Jesus died on the cross and bore my sins (all my sins).

Jesus knew me before I was even born. He knew the day I would be born, He knows the day I will die.

He knew I would be born into this world a sinner. He knew that one day I would receive Him. He knew every sin I committed prior to surrendering my life to Him. And He knows every sin I will commit from this day forward.

I believe The blood He shed on the cross covered all my sin. Whether a believer says "past, present, and future sin," or Jesus died for my sins like Peter said, I think the concept is the same.

If I commit a sin in the future, which I know I will, I believe Jesus died for that also. There is so much power in the blood He shed, and I believe that blood covers all my sins.

I know it is not a license to go out and sin, and God forbid if anyone thinks that way. If a believer thinks they can go out and sin because they are covered, God is going to deal with that believer, and sometimes His discipline can be very harsh.

Please know that like you, I don't wish to argue here. I just wanted to share my thoughts on sin. We often sin without even realizing we are sinning. Thankfully for all of us, God's grace is greater than our sin!

This week's Bible study is Genesis 37 & 38.

Genesis 37 is Joseph's dreams and Joseph sold into slavery.

Genesis 38 is Judah and Tamar.

It's strange that the Joseph story gets interrupted by this sordid incident in Judah's family.

It's significant that Tamar is one of the few women referenced in genealogies and these are the in the lineages of David, King of Israel and Jesus, The Messiah. Other women in these genealogies are Rahab, the Canaanite harlot, Ruth the Moabite and Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah, the Hittite.

It's amazing that Moses recorded this about 400 years before David and 1400 years before Jesus. Chuck Missler of Koinonia House points out that the names of Boaz, Ruth, Obed, Jesse and David appear in order in the characters of the Hebrew text at 49 (7*7) letter intervals in chapter 38.

The specific incident was that Judah fathered twin boys by his daughter-in-law. So Pharez would be considered to be illegitimate.

"A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:"Deu 23:2-3

Turns out, according to Ruth 4:18-22, that David was the tenth generation from Pharez. Yet "I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will," ( Act 13:22) despite the edicts of The Law.

"He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end." Ecc 3:11

"I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him." Ecc 3:14

I welcome your insights and comments.

Has anyone experienced bitterness in their life and how did you overcome it?

Hello Richard, There are many sins that there is power for a born again believer to live above. For example using replacement words for curse words especially ones that sound similar to God or Jesus. Is it not a sin to offend a little one? What about offending one's wife or a brother in a Church or the neighbor next door? How many Christians with power cannot find the grace to say they are sorry and reconcile to the best of their might to make things right again. What about divorce as a Christian? What about smoking or drinking, even once to excess? What about anger? What about paying Cesar what is due? What about turning the eye from even the possibility of lust? What about modesty? What about simplicity? What about economy? What do we as Christians allow ourselves that may be sinful and weaken our Christian witness? What about favoritism, racism, entitlements and pride? One thing common to man is to blame others and hold others for something they have no power themselves to avoid. But God knows! Legalism is one ditch while liberalism is another. Whose ditch is it? The light Skip mentioned is the true light that came down from heaven and it shines it's beam in darkness to give hope to those who will perish if they do not repent and believe in Jesus.

Perhaps we agree in this matter, it is hard to tell.

Carleton

Thank you Jesse, I just wanted to know if it appeared somewhere before but you have revealed very important tip to me.

The answer to when a Christian is judged and whether he will continue in sin is in Romans Ch.6,7and 8.

Here's fragments pulled out of those scriptures.

Romans 6:3-4. Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 7:25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Romans 8:10. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Romans 8:11-14. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

"Positionally the old man have been already charged!

Christ paid the redemptive price on the cross. IT IS FINISHED!!

Romans 8:1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

It's not a question of judgment It's a question of deception. "are you baptized in his death Positionally? do you have a 2nd nature that you see Paul is mentioning in Romans 7 that fights back against the old Man/old nature?

Christ the first fruit and if the first fruit is Holy the lump is also Holy. Wasn't the resurrection justification? " God's approval,

We have a earnest of the inheritance in the Holyspirit.

To be looking for further judgment suggests we have a works based relationship for salvation and Christ died in vain.

I have seen people state Jesus Christ died for past, present, and future sins. I have never seen this quote in Scripture. I have two verses, two different books and writers, that state quite clear that Christ died for our past sins. Perceive as in Romans Paul talks about our old person is crucified with Christ. So we can walk in newness of life and not serve sin,let not sin reign in your mortal bodies and obey the lusts of the flesh, to not yield our members as instruments unto unrighteousness unto sin!!

Also stating that "God forbid" you sin because of being under the grace of God. This is the same Paul who wrote the verses some people perceive as "believe & have faith in Jesus Christ and your sealed". Basically people stating it doesn't matter if you sin or not.

Like I stated to another person: I hope you're right. In no way, shape, or form do I see this teaching in the Holy Bible. The earliest teachings of Christ were "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand".

It seems some perceive us who have a zeal to follow Christ, and actually try to separate from the sins of this world, that we are trying to earn our salvation. This is incorrect. For me and other true children of God anyway. The reason I actually try to keep myself away from sin, thanks to the Holy Ghost, is because it is the Will of our Father in Heaven. God never condones sin. He loves the sinner(people/His creation) but hates sin.

We are not taking anything away from our Lord and none of us will ever be "perfect". Jesus Christ was our perfect example and we should try to follow Him. Do you love the Lord or the sins of this world??

I am not posting this to get into an argument. Would you put your soul on the line that it's ok to sin or doesn't matter? Even if I was wrong and I didn't have to repent and strive to separate myself from the sins of this world for the Lord. For me it doesn't matter. I'm not doing it for myself. I do it to honor and glorify our Father. Let your light shine!

Brother Richard in Christ,

Thank you so much for your reply and your opinion that I asked for.

I do suffer greatly for I blame myself for my wife's illness...tempting God and Satan to do their worst to me.

however, I always think that there is always someone else in this world that is worse off than I.

And Jesus suffer the greatest...I still find it difficult to read the wicked things that were done to Jesus.

You are right...I have been blessed and I feel that I have been saved and it is my time to suffer ...I am trying to love God with all my body, mind and soul; and love thy neighbor.

My prayers for my wife may never come to fruition...I know...only God knows what the plan is.

God bless you.

I agree that there are two judgements. Everyone will be judged but there will be two separate judgments.

The first judgement will be for believers. It is called the judgement seat of Christ (Bema Seat). Believers will not be judged for salvation because our sins have been forgiven by Christ's sacrifice on the cross.

Believers will stand before Christ at the Bema Seat and give an account of their lives. What is not of Christ will burn but we ourselves will pass through the fire ( 1 Corinthians 3:15).

This particular judgement is to determine our reward.

The second judgement will happen at a later time and this judgement will be for non-believers. This is called the Great White Throne judgement. The non-believers will be judged and cast into the lake of fire.

So we will all be judged. We just want to make sure we are part of the first judgement, the Bema Seat of Christ.

Colossians 2:7...We are to abound in the love and the understanding of the truth that is in Christ, with thanksgiving. It is not saying to abound in thanksgiving. Thanksgiving abounds in itself from abounding in the things that draw us closer and closer to Christ.

why is there a different name used in various translations, in regard to Manasseh and Moses. the priests referenced here, who ministered to the tribe of Dan, are these priests from the tribe of Manasseh, thus not making them Levites, or are they the grandsons of Moses?

My brother Steve,

After reading your post I am moved to send you a reply. To me it shows your true love to your wife. That you could not bear to leave her & also not wanting her to feel the rejection of you leaving her. As you thought maybe the best thing would be for you to die and give her peace. Jesus Christ states that there is no greater love than to give your life for your friend. John 15:13.

Now after your own sickness or "infection" it has moved over to your wife and now she is in "assisted living". The most important thing is the Lord came and spake to you in your dream stating "This is your cross to bear". This is a blessing and not everyone receives these things. In the most simple sens from what I feel is that this is your time to suffer. Jesus Christ suffered for us, gave His life for us, and now as "this is your cross" this is your time to suffer. Please my brother, stay strong in your faith to the Lord and do not even let death separate you from Jesus Christ. Trust in Him. The devil is not in control and even if this is the evil one's doing.. God knows everything and there is a reason for it. It may be to bring you closer to Him.

Read the book of (1 Peter as it goes over suffering well. 2 Thessalonians 1:5 is a good verse. As a teaching of Jesus Christ in the book of John is that no servant is greater than his Master. If the world hates you or persecutes you remember it did it to me first(paraphrasing) John 15:18-20. In faith I also believe the Lord would mean this to be for suffering. In that if we suffer remember He suffered for us first.

I hope my reply helps you and renews your hope in the Lord. Focus on Him. Keep praying from the heart in humbleness. Do not fear the devil.

God Bless you.

Dear Adam, Yes it is true! You are welcome to visit here any time and even stay with our family if it becomes possible to figure out the details. Of course the best time of the year is spring. Fall is nice too and visiting the ocean in the fall and spring usually means less fog. Earlier I think you addressed a post to me when you meant someone else (I think).

Carleton

In my own experience the Holy Spirit helps us not to sin. I may have a sinful thought at times but I have rebuked myself and that thought goes no further. Thus stopping me from putting my thought into action. This is the Holy Spirit guiding me away from sin.

The Bible does not say that we will all be Judged. Jesus has saved us from the wrath of God. Now there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ.

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