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We had each other in mind at the same time brother Jesse!

This one? :)

But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. First Timothy 3:15

Well Carleton, thank you. You are much too kind and humble. I think we can all learn from you. We are all an encouragement to each other in one way or another. You have a blessed day in Christ my brother

S Spencer,

Yes, I do see how Matthew 21:43 ties into this. We have to remember that the Jews were cut off from the tree, and we (Gentiles) were grafted in. Could the nation Jesus is referring to be the church? I think the church is part of it. However, the word used in the Greek text for nation is the word ETHNEI which would be translated "to a people."

Some English translations including the King James say to a nation, while others say to a people. I might be a little bit off on this, but I think the bible only talks about two types of people, Jews, and Gentiles.

Anyway, those were very strong words Jesus used in Matthew 21:43. Can you imagine what the Jews must have been thinking? He says it is going to be taken away from you, and the vineyard is going to be given to the Gentiles. The Jews considered the Gentiles unclean. Gentiles were even called dogs. And now here's Jesus telling them that it will be taken from them and given to the Gentiles. I'm sure that didn't sit too well with them!

Paul says in Romans Chapter 11 that we are grafted into the vineyard. But that's so the Jews would be jealous because we have their Messiah.

Paul also says in Romans Chapter 11 that when Christ comes at His second coming, those Jews who are alive on the earth, he says all of Israel will be saved.

They will then own Him as their Messiah. But until then, it's been taken away.

Thank you Sacha! Love to hear the details of a believer's life and setting. Love to see the area too somehow, someday. One year is a very long time to not get to see the mothers and to stay indoors. At our home we are five. My daughter 20, son 19, son 15 and wife younger than I. Our home is happy and peaceful thanks to the grace of God. Have a nice after noon over there. Not quite 8:30am here.

This prayer should be on every Christians heart and we must be willing to obey what God has given to us in His Word. Praise God

where are we in ref.to 2 thes.2, the man of perdition?

What about Mathew, Mark, Luke, John plus others as writers of New Testament books?

Amen thank you father God,

They say do not sin and brake the commandments but also say that god forgives I believe in Allah and I do believe we are all born into death thru the sin of Adam and Eve its not until we are reborn into the light of a new life some can not be blamed for the previous light life that was inside them for we can only guide the light life in our shell body's for so long before they pop or be taking to a higher place some good some bad but the soul that is within if does wrong then how can the next light life that is carried in the same body be blamed for what the last light did until they are cleaned and know the truth how can a human truly be judged on earth this means that only when we live are these soles judged and that the body will be at the end of life an empty vessel and the sole of who you really are is already passes and then replaced with another until the body is worn out old or diseased to be able to carry theses lights so if that is the case we are born to be vessels to carry what's within that some will make it and others will not some of us are born to guide and others to destroy what do you think?

Thank you for your time in providing an answer that seems honest in your heart. Obviously by what you wrote, God has allowed you to continue to live, likely for His purpose.

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Revelation 3:2-6 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white: for they are worthy.

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Thanks Jessie for your response.Was also thinking in that direction.

Henry,

I'm not sure there is an answer on why angels are included in that list. I can give you my unbiblical guess.

I do know that Paul is declaring that nothing can separate us from God, including angels.

Angels are very powerful. When Paul lists all these things saying that he is persuaded that none of them can separate us from the love of God, he includes angels.

My guess is that when he says angels, that includes Satan who is also an angel. And not even Satan can separate us from God's love.

Again, this is just a guess!

Jim,

In Mark 12:17, Jesus said render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.

They were trying to trap Jesus about paying taxes. Jesus asked who's image was on the coin. They said Caesar's.

So what was Jesus saying?

In Genesis 1:26, it says that God made man in His image. Do you see where this is going? Jesus is telling them if that is Caesar's money and he wants it, give it to him. It is worldly. It is part of his system, so give it to him.

But you are made in the image of God. Give Caesar his money, and give God what is due to Him.

I hope this helps!

Amen Jesse,

I recently expounded on those verses in that fashion!!

I think we see it also played out in Mathew 21 parable especially in verse 43.

Matthew 21:43 (KJV) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. I take That nation to be the church.

John 15 is centered in so many verses in the Bible. Thank you.

Carleton,

Thank you for sharing that. That's a great example of one unable to be shaken of the faith God gave them!

This is a repeat of the previous chapter. Didn't Saul see his wrong at the cave where David hid? David said the same things in that chapter as to this one. How did Saul go back to wanting to kill him? I got a headache from this confusion.

S Spencer,

I am not sure if I can share additional insight with you on the vine and branches. The things you said were pretty much spot on. Your knowledge is pretty solid. All glory to God for that.

There are a few more things in Chapter 15 that I find interesting, things you may already know but I can still share.

Jesus said I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. It's literally I am the genuine vine, and my Father is the earth worker.

That is fascinating to me because having some (very little) knowledge about horticulture, I know that a tree or vine can have many branches attached to it, some living, and some dead.

All these branches are attached to the same vine, and yet some never produce fruit. They are dead branches.

In the O.T., the vine was always used as an example of Israel, especially Isaiah 5:1-7, also known as the song of the vineyard, how that God planted a vineyard and it was the nation Israel.

But they grew wild grapes, and thorns grew and God allowed the vineyard to be overrun by wild animals, which symbolized His judgement against Israel.

So now Jesus is telling His disciples that I am the genuine vine, not the symbolic one of the O.T. He says I am the genuine vine and my Father is the farmer, the earth worker.

There are two phrases Jesus uses that sometimes cause confusion. First of all there's the phrase "in me." He says every branch "in me" that does not bear fruit. That's not a saved person. That's the nation Israel being in God.

The other phrase Jesus uses is "Abide in me." The ones abiding in the vine produce fruit. Then there are the branches that Jesus says are in me. But they don't produce fruit, neither can they.

The branches that are in Christ but are not bearing fruit, they are only physically connected. Internally they are cut off from the life source. The branches that are abiding in Him are the ones that are connected to the internal life source of the vine who is Jesus Christ!

Saint, had I taken your blanketed advise I'd be dead several times over. Turning a cheek isn't a one size fits all.

Thank you for that very kind statement my brother Earl.

You have posted truth. All glory to our Father in Heaven and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Peace and Blessings be with you brother.

( 1 John 2:5-6 But whoso keepeth his Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in Him.

He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked.

Hello Cindy,

Here is a couple more verses to go along with the verse from Romans Jesse posted:

Leviticus 18:22 Thou(man) shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 18:24-25 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

( 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves(homosexual) with mankind,

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Verse eleven showing there is forgiveness if there is repentance.

God Bless.

....The chief reason why we were were tortured , was , that we should tell how many teachers there were, what their names were, where they lived, where in the city I had taught, how many I had baptized, where the ministry was imposed upon me, and what teachers were present upon that occasion; and I should acknowledge the magistrates as Christians, and infant baptism as right. Then I pressed my lips together, committed it to God, and suffered patiently, remembering the words of the Lord, where He says: "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." John 15:13-14....

Martyrs Mirror

Thieleman J. van Braght

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Isaiah chapters 53 , 54 , 55

What's better than reading and believing these verses ?

When you hear God speaking through them to you personally , it's more than a doctrine . The living word of God . Amen .

Thanks Earl,

God bless you

Thanks Jesse,

That is also my favorite scripture to take out to the ministry, Send me more insight on that scripture if you will. Thanks,

God bless you.

A touching story. Reminder for us to lead by example and do righteousness and not do what our will seeks to do. Listen to the father for guidance. It's better to swallow thy pride than to do wickedness.

Hi Mishael,

Thank you so much for responding to me. I will definitely take heed to what you wrote. I heard about the movie, "The Shack" and I heard it was good. I will take a look at it. One thing that I didn't think to do was to forgive myself. I will definitely put this into practice. Again, thank you.

Hi Cindy,

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Romans 1:18-28 (KJV) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Wherefore God also gave them up to UNCLEANNESS through the lusts of their own hearts, to DISHONOUR THEIR OWN BODIES between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST NATURE:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Cindy,

Romans chapter 1 covers that. Take a look at Romans 1:27.