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I don't know about y'all, but if you add a glass of wine to a full day of hard physical work; I pass out on my bed frequently drinking iced tea. Discuss that.

Ham saw his father, laughed, and told his other brothers. The two took a blanket and covered their fathers modesty without seeing anything.

God chose to punish the son who looked, laughed and gossiped. He hates gossip and Backbiting.

Why are you taking issue with God in the first place? Who made you judge?

It is with righteous judgment we are allowed. But Gods judgments are final, He cannot even look on sin. That's why we all need a Savior.

Be careful when you begin criticizing God the same way people on Twitter discuss, trash others characters and publish it to the world. Doesn't that sorta sound like what Ham did to his Dad?

The end of the Book of Revelation....backbiters will not go to heaven.

Criticism and ridicule are not fruits of The Holy Spirit.

I don't understand while God had respect to Abels offering and not Cains. I was raised on the farm and we would not offer our cow or our pigs for a offering. But we had vegetables. Unless Cain offered rotten vegs. Why kill innocent animals? We got milk from our cow also.

One could also ask, "what has kisses to do with love?" This is Solomon's love story with his Shulamite woman.

If we look at this account with our 'present-day eyes', then yes, Noah sinned by getting drunk & should have been punished for being so, along with son Ham.

But was it a punishable 'sin' in those days & in that situation Noah was in? Today, we say that drunkenness is sin because of alcohol's effect on the mind likely resulting in sinful action. So we are warned to stay away from alcohol, or else maybe to take some for "our stomach's sake" ( 1 Timothy 5:3), and that too, just a little wine.

Enter Noah: he was a farmer growing a fruitful vineyard & after juicing his grapes, fermenting them for an extra kick, he wanted to sample some of his hard work. He drank a little more than he should have, started to feel a tad warm, shed off some clothing to cool off in his tent & son Ham happens to walk by & lingers at his door. We're not told whether Noah's inebriation led him to do anything wrong or even have sinful thoughts - just that he drank his wine to the point of being drunk & was uncovered. Without trying to make excuses for Noah, I don't see anything amiss from what we are given to read - he drank too much & fell asleep. But you might be seeing something more in this account.

This is too large a subject to properly deal with here, but basically, when God rested on the seventh day from His Work of Creation ( Genesis 2:2,3), it was done from counting off six days: in other words, since no days of the week are seen here, therefore no one can determine which days was the day of rest. Then when He commanded this Day of Rest (Sabbath) in Exodus 20:10 for his people Israel to observe, again, there wasn't a stipulation of it being a particular day. The institution of the Sabbath was a sign of sanctification (or, separation) of Israel to God, elected by God out of a world all around them that was given to idolatry & wickedness. ( Exodus 31:13,14).

In Exodus chapter 16, we read of God's provision of food to Israel after they left Egypt, by supplying them with quails & manna each day. They had to collect their food every day for six days but on the sixth day, they had to collect the manna for an extra day, as it was their day of rest (Sabbath). If they forgot to do this, they would have to fast.

From then on, Israel had maintained this day count: working (or, collecting food) for six days & resting on the seventh. The Jewish Sabbaths, Festivals, etc. are now calculated on a Lunar Calendar (based on the Moon cycles/phases) as opposed to our Solar Calendar (based on the Sun). As both Calendars are not strictly accurate (if reckoning the exact days), they have to include extra days or in the case of Judaism, adjust their festival dates to suit. But the Sabbath has to be strictly maintained as the seventh day of rest from their labours.

The father drank the wine to and was intoxicated and was lying naked before the younger son went into the tent and saw him. If the son was at fault for him to be cursed, what should have been done to Noah?

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Re: Hell. In the Bible the words used for Hell can be applied to both grave & a place of torment. In Genesis 37:35 we see the word 'Sheol' used. In Luke 16:23, Hades is used. Both words can be depicted as Hell, but its application calls for one being a grave & the other, a place of torment. As also with 'Gehenna': it may have had its roots in the Valley of Hinnom where the atrocities of human burning took place, but in Scripture ( Matthew 5:22, Luke 12:5) & references in Revelation 19,20 clearly speaks of a place other than that near Jerusalem where eternal torment of those judged unworthy to partake of God's Kingdom. I've only given a few Scriptures on this for want of space.

And yes, Jesus was in the grave (sepulchre, 'mnemeion') for three days before appearing to Mary. Blessings.

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Thank you Al for your comments. I do understand what you're saying here & there are subjects in the Bible that are not given full treatment as we would like - maybe for a reason. In 1 Thessalonians 5:23, Paul prayed for the believers, "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ". For some reason, Paul thought to include their complete being in his prayer ("spirit, soul & body") & clearly of the three, the body is what is apparent to us & others, & Jesus also expressed in Matthew 10:28, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell". Now these Scriptures don't show the passage of the spirit after death, but to show that man does have a soul & spirit & the body is the visible vessel in which these abide.

1 Cor 15:50 speaks of the impossibility of man in his mortal body to enter Heaven. But when that body is changed from being in a corrupt state to an incorrupt state, then it will be outfitted for Heaven. Verses 52, 53 show that that which is corruptible will be raised incorruptible, for corruption must put on incorruption & mortal put on immortality. If the word "sleep", a euphemism for 'death', is applied to a body devoid of soul & spirit (i.e. the soul disappears altogether & the spirit (breath) returns to God) then what is the purpose for the resurrection of a body from the grave that is devoid of further life? But if God gives it life, where does it come from? Is this life from the grave of a different personality to the former?

what have love to do with mouth ?

I wrote on that last night. Check the room history pages near the bottom.

I would keep to the New Testament for Jesus's teachings about the Jews. Read Paul's books.

Jesus ratified the NEW Covenant with his own sinless Blood for all people.

New Covenant, improved benefits. Some prophesies concerning the Jews are still being worked out: not yet fulfilled. By reading Jewish news, you can get a sense of how the prophesies are advancing to completion.

Since the entire Bible is a story about Jesus: we ought to study the 2 Covenants (Testaments) in order and separately; as they are recorded.

On November 13, 700 Club aired what Joe Biden intends to do concerning Israel and the Palestinian states/countries. You and everybody should go on YouTube and watch that show.

He plans to utterly reverse or destroy everything President Trump accomplished in establishing peace.

We are awaiting the announcement of a 7 year Peace Treaty.

The Catching Away of the Church is timed around then. Only Father God knows the exact moment.

When the Peace Treaty is in force the Antichrist will soon be revealed.

So today I was thinking about politics and prophesy.

If Biden is made President; Kamala is 2nd in Command. Nancy Pelosi is 3rd in Command. If 1 and 2 were killed, Nancy would be President. I'm thinking that a former president would become her vice-President. Who said on network news camera: he was only sorry he couldn't have a 3rd shot at President. Wild thought, huh?

Our future is sitting on quick sand right now. We never think about prophesy (the Bible), and politics

Advancing side by side.

My advice is get you and your loved ones born again. Because when that Peace Treaty turns up in the news... it's wrapping up time. I just want everyone to be ready to go with Jesus.

When you consider these matters and add to it: that Biden intends to throw our doors open to China (who sells us swine flu infected meat) AND other countries, it's looking g

How do you discern truth from a lie? Have you prayed to God and asked if what you said about Eve and satan is true? Because it's not in the Bible and if it's not there, where else would it come from? Definitely doesn't come from God, but since satan is the father of lies and spreads falsehoods regularly, how can you be 100% sure you haven't been deceived yourself?

I've not seen any scripture that bears that out. Maybe you can find one?

He did have wives and concubines (way too many) that may have been black.

Try Google too.

its good to learn

In heaven we will see our loved ones, who died in the Lord before us. Even children lost before and after birth.

The Lord will wipe away our tears.

Memories of those we loved, but died outside of Christ (unsaved), will not be remembered because of the pain of loss.

Book of Revelation

Pray for everyone you love, now. In your prayer; spiritually tear down the walls that separate your loved ones from Jesus.

Let there be Light; let them see Jesus: in the Name of Jesus.

Stoke the fires of your FAITH, to follow those prayers. Stay on it till it is done.

No matter what you see, don't give up.

Use the Lords Prayer as a model:

Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done: in "Marks" life. Fit the names in each verse.

That's one powerful prayer to pray! Jesus taught us that.

The Sabbath is a bone of contention in here. Sorry to say so. I have not found a scripture that says Thou Shat Go to Church on Saturday; Friday, Sunday or any other day.

It DOES say to not forsake assembling together.

Church is whatever day your Church chooses to come together corporately.

Purpose: praise and worship, tithes or offerings to the Lord. Prayer for the sick to be healed. Hearing the message. Invitation to be born again.

Personally for me, I think children 6 and up should sit with parents. Children see, they do. Jesus said: suffer the children to come to ME. Show what you believe. Give them a dollar to put in the offering basket.

There should be announcements In the bulletin so church members can see who needs home visits. Matthew 26. Preach that.

I realize that some churches operate on rituals, traditions, "that's how it's always been done", etc.

It's JESUS'S CHURCH. I do not perceive from Him: stern, inflexible or too modern. I think coffee, donuts and chat, belongs after church is dismissed. Let all things be in an orderly fashion.

We should be learning WHO the Holy Spirit is; What is the 5 Fold Ministry Gifts to the Church; the Gifts of the Holy Spirit & how they are received and how they operate.

Lastly. Teach WHO the Body of Christ is.

People need to hear this taught often. See: most people do not even know what it is.

Wednesday Intercessory Prayer meetings are for learning the real Meat: how to pray for souls to be saved and set free from the devil. Teach Spiritual Warfare.

Ignorance is not blissful. Ignorance allows demons to do their dirty work and kidnap your kids, your finances, your sense of peace and joy. Teach people how to live in the Power and Freedom that is in Christ.

If your church does NONE of those things, find one who does. Listen to church on FM Radio when you wash dishes.

Stuff Bible in=and when you get squished, it just flows out like a stream of life.

Mishael

Sir, there are over 4,000 promises in the Bible yet nobody has yet found the one that says your soul will go to Heaven upon death of the body....or the other way around, to hell at death.....actually sir, the Bible says you are a soul, combination of body and spirit or "breath of life"....it has been twisted to try and prove we go somewhere after death.....however the Bible says over and over we shall sleep until the second coming....check it in 1 Cor. 15;50....when you die, the soul is no longer in existence and the spirit, or breath returns to God, "who gave it".....every spirit returns....

Also, we must search deep to get to the truths revealed therein ......when was this burning hell created?.....which of the six days?......and God saw that they were good.....answer, it was not created yet.....the words used for hell refer to the grave, Gehenna a literal place on earth and one work tartaroo that refers to angels only....it's all there if you want to really learn what is being taught....

Many have the wrong idea about where Jesus went after he was crucified....he went to the grave for three days....take time to look up John 20 verse 17....."Touch me not for I am not yet ascended to my Father"....this was 3 days after he died....OK, enough for now....stay safe Sir

Interesting but strange comment on the snake...never heard that one before.....not Biblically accurate though....good luck

Please do not take this question to serious it is just one I have wondered about for a while. Is the very day that God rested all that important? I mean does it really matter if it was Sat or Sun or Mon or whatever day? My email does not work so please answer me on here. I love this site and so glad when I found it!

King Solomon was black. Ancient Covenant people pass that down .

This crowded world is not what it seems. In these days the world is spending so fast l lose track what day it has become.

People around with sickness and problems surround me. I help all l can. Overwhelmed l go alone and ask God for help. I walk with Him to keep me going. Mankind no. Too much Me. Myself. I.

Where is God's Love toward others. It comes from the heart. Where is the Light of the Heavens. It Shines with compassion, not self. I block the evilness out. So alone l stand walking in the Strength of my Heavenly God.

Was it so long ago l had a after death. I know the Love of Jesus and His Father. Praise God Always!!!

A few things to realize about being saved. First you must have repented as Luke 13:3 says "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." Luke 13:5 says the same thing. Christ told man to repent. So what is repentance? It is a request made to God, you are confessing sins, you are saying you are sorry for doing the sin, you are asking for forgiveness, AND you are stating that your opinion and mindset towards sin has changed. Repent is to change decision or your mind. So repentance includes your future actions are not to commit sin again. It's not on us alone to shun sin. You have a need to be honest with God and you must do your part to distance yourself from sin. That part is described in 2 Corinthians 7:1 "Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God." Cleansing ourselves from filthiness is not forgiving our own sins, it is removing sinful things from our lives. Former smokers throw the cigarettes out. Don't keep beer in the fridge. Don't buy the adult magazines. YOU actively do not bring the sinful thing into your life, distancing from the sins is your job.

Secondly there's a 2nd work on your spiritual man that's needed. Sanctification. This is only for those free from sin via repentance, those that do not sin still. Prayer to God again, that admits you are carnal, that you ask God to remove the carnality, and to fill your heart with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit which is the same part of God. Paul asked this question in Acts 19:2 "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost." Vs 6 same chap. "And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." Speaking in tongues were needful then but not today & it's not a sign of holiness, but a life free from sin is.

God set apart the seventh day at creation for worship and rest. God's word never changed His day for worship and rest to Sunday man did. God's word never changes. I challenge you to do a word search on seventh day and Sabath day in the King James and be amazed what God's word has to say about it. I was blown away when I did.

Due to religions of different individuals. How is the Sabbath truly determined? Where is it in the Bible?

Hello, what verse do you believe says that? Is there a personal reason that this topic is important to you?

that was gotquestions about fear and faith

God is kind and understanding toward our weaknesses, but He requires us to go forward in faith, and the Bible is clear that faith does not mature and strengthen without trials. Adversity is God's most effective tool to develop a strong faith. That pattern is evident in Scripture. God takes each one of us through fearful situations, and, as we learn to obey God's Word and allow it to saturate our thoughts, we find each trial becomes a stepping stone to a stronger and deeper faith. It gives us that ability to say, "He sustained me in the past, he'll carry me through today and he'll uphold me in the future!" God worked this way in David's life. When David volunteered to fight against Goliath, he said, "The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and the paw of the bear will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine" ( 1 Samuel 17:37). David knew the God who had sustained him through dangerous situations in the past. He had seen and experienced God's power and protection in his life, and this developed within him a fearless faith. Romans 8:31 Romans 5:3-5

Deuteronomy 28 proves who the descendants of The Ancient Israelites are today. There is only one group of people that fit the curses of Deuteronomy. The people who call themselves "Jewish" are not The Real Jews. They do not fit any of the curses Deuteronomy. The Real Jews are scattered abroad and They lost their heritage and culture.

It only takes one to commit adultery. You'll have to reframe the question to get a correct answer.

I need verses that testify to Sunday worship.

Thank you.