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There is but one GOD,there is No God before him ,there is No God with him &there will be No God After Him..Praise his Holy Name.

Hello David,

Seeing your post just made me wonder. You know satan was not ever in Heaven? So what do you take of say 2 Peter 2:4 or Jude 1:6? Which are pretty straight forward. About angels sinning. I'll just state this. God our Eternal Father is so much higher than us. As His ways, and thoughts, also are so high above us.

So as I believe things between angels and "us" are two different categories. One thing I believe our Father gives all is "free will". I myself would never condemn anyone(person) who was say "touched" by the Lord. Say they repented well and dropped many sinful things of this world. Then say they made a mistake and did something "sinful". Would you say that person is no longer saved? Even if they knew they made a mistake, confessed to the Lord, and tried to learn from it and keep on repenting and living for the Lord?

We are still here in earth. I know there are some people who say they are "perfect" and "sin free" after being saved by the Lord. I myself could never say that. Keeping a humble state of mind. I only see my Lord Jesus Christ, and my Holy Father, as perfect. I try my best to follow in the footsteps of the Lord and live for the Will of our Father. As I don't condemn people this does not mean I say it's ok, or right, to "sin". I guess I just have more "mercy" and "forgiveness" in me than "judgement" or "condemnation".

I know we're all different and have our own views. This is not to start an argument. I just felt to post from the heart.

God Bless you.

Where does the bible promise you that your soul will go to Heaven when you die? or conversely that a soul will go to hell when the wicked die? How were people saved before there was a savior?....how did Eve know what part(s) or her body to cover with fig leaves?...thank you

Alex comments on water baptism but John Who gave us water baptism, Preached behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world i have need to be baptised of him ( Jesus ) Its not water baptism that made us Clean, its only by the blood of the lamb that we are made Clean not h20 . After that Christ had shed his blood on the Cross were we made Clean which was the ULTTMATE BAPTISM AND NOTHIN CAN BE ADDED TO IT ABSOLUTLY NOTHIN . But Peter a Godly man was commanding water baptism after that God Almighty had baptised them with the H.G. That resulted from the blood of the lamb ( WHO CAN FORBID WATER ETC) Thats when God gave Peter that vision in a trance of a GREAT SHEET knit at the 4 corners with all the unclean animals which was the Church ( Humanity ) That God made Clean by the blood of the LAMB not water baptism that Peter was commanding, Thats y the lord was so upset with Peter as Peter was inessence saying the blood was insufficient they needed water baptism Then after that Peter had understood the vision he says then remembered I the WORDS OF OUR LORD, JOHN BAPTISED YOU WITH WATER BUT I WILL BAPTISE YOU WITH THE H.G. N FIRE NO WATER MENTIONED . Nothin can be compared to his blood or added to his sacrifice on th Cross Thats y Paul said i thank God that i baptised none of you, Paul knew that water baptism wd make the CROSS th BLOOD OF NO EFFECT thats y the lord was so upset with Peter he was making the blood of no effect by commanding water baptism in essence saying the Blood was insufficient . It was a slap in the face of God and the lamb of God to command water baptism after the CROSS. Peter should have been preaching behold the lamb of God that taketh away the SINS of the world not water baptism after that God had washed them with the ULTIMATE baptism of his blood the greatest event to ever grace planet earth. Unto him that has loved us and has washed us from OUR SINS IN HIS OWN BLOOD . Even in th O.T. WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD NO REMISISON OF SINS.

Jonah 4:2 reveals the prophet's knowledge of God and His character of mercy and compassion. He knew God so well, but refused to be like Him. God's desire for Israel was to use them to display the glory of God and draw the world to God. Instead, Jonah exemplifies Israel's arrogance in claiming "those people" are undeserving of the grace extended to themselves from a loving God.

This attitude resulted in the religious leaders of Christ's day putting Him on a cross, rejecting His message of salvation. Their sinful response provided for our salvation and the creation of the church, Christ's bride. Now we are to be "one" with Christ and display His compassion and mercy while speaking to all people's of His love and forgiveness available to them through Calvary. His church - meaning each Christian - is commissioned to make disciples, and commanded to deny ourselves and take up our cross daily.

Do I really believe God is full of mercy and compassion? What I do with God's message of forgiveness and mercy through offering Jesus Christ's salvation and calling for sinners to repent = the answer to that question.

In chapter 1 Jonah never prays to God, but tries to run away. As we understand God's call for us to give the gospel to the world, prayer for wisdom, power, and love for sinners should be our "first priority". Jonah also teaches me to understand anytime I think of some one or people group as "those people", I need to humble myself and realize we are all "one people" in God's eyes. No one is more undeserving of God's love than I am. The fact that He brought the knowledge of the gospel to me is proof He can save anyone who repents of sin and takes Christ as Lord and Saviour. Amen!

"Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." Like the seed of faith planted, it starts slow, but will surely grow well, when planted in good ground! negligible at first, but soon a tree that all the fowls of the air may hide and rest in!

Yes thank you what chapter in the Bible were saying about one of the men's that was crucified on the cross with JESUS say they hung him up side down

Sometimes you wake up to see you need god closer then ever before. the ones around you are hurting in the days we are in. the evilness of this world is running faster than ever before. i am crying out to you lord for help in helping each one to my fullest of the wisdom you have given me in trials l was in most of my life. you tend to stand alone in this world. but let god shine through you in his world. even when sometimes it gets so hard, you have to pray more then ever for his strength of helping those suffering around you. day to day l wonder when one will lose his battle. when god will say you are to come home to me....i am your beginning and now l am your end. i am your true father in heaven. my son jesus l let suffer on the cross with his blood to make a way to see me again-- after living in this sinful world. now come!!! and to those that help you in this wicked world ..i give you the brightest of my light for your strength to keep going until i take you home!!! now fight in my strength and love, and bring it to

the others l lead you to. pray always in my word...... stay strong in the blood of jesus always with your faith, and i will move the mountains that stand in your way!!!!

What is the definition of fornication

Deborah was the only female judge in the Bible. She served as judge (a military or civil leader) over Israel as a prophet, judge, military leader, songwriter & minstrel ( Judges 4,5).

She showed exemplary moral character & the people gave her love & respect. She was the wife of Lapidoth & presumed to have lived in Ephraim. She judged & led Israel for about 40 plus years from 1195 BC.

Israel was given over to idolatry & subsequently were bondage to Jabin, King of Canaan. It was at the time of Israel's suffering, that God sent Deborah to secure Israel's freedom. This she did with Barak who was urged to raise up a great army to fight against the Canaanites. She was urged to attend the battle with Barak & his army, though she warned him that after his victory, the glory would not come to him, but to another (to a woman who killed Sisera, the leader of the Canaanite army while he slept exhausted after the battle, at her home). And we know that the Canaanites were defeated by the Hand of the Lord.

After this, Deborah wrote a song about these events & Israel enjoyed 40 years of peace under her & Barak's leadership.

The verse: 12. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. What does this verse of scripture mean?

All of the Book of the Revelation is the account that the Apostle John received in a vision (in the spirit, Rev 1:10) & to "write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter" (v19). So in Revelation 13:1, it was John who saw himself standing on the sea shore when he was also given the vision of the "beast rise up out of the sea" at that time.

I would like to read this prayer every day

People forget 2 Churches (1 of GOD & Christ) (1 of Satan Church Of Mahon) Remember: Read Line Upon Line, Precept upon Precept, a Little Here, a Little There:

Here's the Problem

1.) John 5:23

That all men should honour the Son, euen as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not e Sonne, honoreth not e Father which hath sent him.

2.) John 10:38

But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

3.) John 14:13

And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son

Here's The True Word:

1.) 1 Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for euer: & this is the word which by the Gospel is preached vnto you.

2.) Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not;

3.) Matthew 4:10 for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

4.) Luke 4:8 Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Yes I do. I also believe in Matthew 26.

My belief in relieving the suffering of others comes from what Jesus taught, and showed us about humility. (Beatitudes)

It's only a loss of rewards at the Bema Seat judgment of Christ.

I pray with people in the Prayer Request Room because people need to hear God loves them and is ready to meet their Needs.

I begin my prayer with the Prayer of Agreement:

"19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

Faith is Action. It does something. It changes us. It changes people we pray for.

Sometimes I hear back from people who were healed. It boosts my desire to bring Jesus to his lambs and hurting sheep.

Adam and Eve were spiritually connected to God. They knew the rules. Yet they ate the fruit (disobeyed), and lost that spiritual connection. They sinned.

If the Holy Spirit taps my shoulder, I listen up real quick.

Chris , your words are full of wisdom and i admire that in you man .

thank you for being there and i thank jesus christ too for bringing you up in here , a conversation with is smart and amazing to hear from you .as you even encountered muslims in Pakistan , that makes my heart beats , you met one of the most extremists over there .

as Charlie Hebdo events happened in Nice and Paris , i posted on my Facebook "Rest in Peace for the Christians who passed away and i wish your families to recover from their losses " , a Pakistani guy(he doesn't know that i left islam long time ago) told me that the muslim shall consider the prophet more than his parents so he shall kill , and he told me also that i'm a blasphemous for wishing the westerns and the priests to rest in peace , the guy is an ex military in the pakistani army , Yes Chris i got sick and blocked that guy and lighted a cigarette .

i'm not about spreading hate , but let's be more clear , westerns are lucky they got the Church and the freedom.

and i come from NORTH Africa that's why we got french and italian universities.

i know some woman too , her Brother works with islamist salafists in the country and those are the worst extremists, she told me that she attended the Church and she is secretly baptised and she loves jesus christ , she told me that she felt like a NEWBORN and she told me that it makes her terrified from her extremist brother .

for my personal experience when i just tried to get into the Church , there was extremists standing on the roofs of the neighberhoods watching "who is popular and new and from same race ? " , police been there but they will leak informations bcz police does not like to clash with them .

made me needing to buy a camera to be the church film maker just to get in to pray .

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In my understanding of this subject & considering all relevant Scriptures, I don't detect that the Gift of speaking in other tongues has ever been done away with. There will be some who say that it has been, along with healing, miracles, etc. & they would cite some Scriptures in support, chiefly, 1 Corinthians 13:10 referring to the complete Word of God (that which is Perfect) now with us. And at the other end of the spectrum, there are those who maintain that unless one speaks in tongues, then one has not been baptized by the Spirit, hence not saved (using Acts chapter 2 as one of the Scriptures). And there are various opinions in-between.

I follow the understanding that if one has that gift, then one has to use it for God's Glory & as prescribed in the Word. 1 Corinthians chapters 12-14 are relevant for us to know how the gift is to be used in corporate ministry & private worship. The matter arises when a tongue is given that appears to not be a language unlearned, but as some describe it as 'babble'. Again, if this matter is unknown to the user of tongues, then Paul has prescribed the proper use of it. But often in some Churches, a corporate use of tongues in worship is given a special place which presents itself as a meaningless din to the non-participant, & this is not in accord with Scripture.

In any case, the Scripture is clear that though this was a sign of the reception of this Gift, it's certainly not mandatory to have it to prove the indwelling of the Spirit ( 1 Corinthians 12:30).

The word "rapture" is in the latin vulcate. Translated as 'caught up'.

God's word is spirit and life. And faith comes from God's word. Adam and Eve disobeyed God's word and they died for that. So the devil is a perverter. He just wants us to disobey the spirit and life word, the faith word so we destroy ourselves and others. Jesus Christ said man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. We are a spirit, we have a soul, and we live in a body.

So you don't believe Jesus took away your sin?

Thank you for sharing God's Word

who was the apostl

standing on the sand at the shore?

As you may have read other portions of this Book, Solomon speaks largely of the seemingly aimless cycles of life & its paradoxes. And one of those issues that might cause us to despair is the similar condition we have to those of animals.

As far as the flesh is concerned, man is no better than they. With all our intelligence, abilities to calculate & forecast, as well as our moral & spiritual dimensions, we still are no better than animals when we die: our bodies return to the dust - we are equal in that sense.

But 'the spirit of man goes upwards & the spirit of the beast goes downward to the Earth' (v21). Our spirits are accountable to our Creator for what we have done in this life (& specifically to God's call upon us), whereas the animal's spirit (that gave it life) perishes with it into the Earth. There is no indication here or anywhere else, that the end of man's life is simply a disappearance or annihilation from an earthly existence. Our spirits are indestructible & accountable, unlike the animal's. That's how I understand this portion.

Revelation 21:8 gives a list of those that not only not enter Heaven, but are ultimately cast into the Lake of Fire where Satan, the Beast & False Prophet are also cast into, in that final day of dealing with the sin problem.

I see that list as revealing the whole spectrum of sins: those without faith in God through His Son, those that partook of abominable things or did abominable things in God's Sight, idol worshippers, those practising in witchcraft & clairvoyants, & those given to lies & deception. So even if we don't see things like drunkenness, drug use, rape, child molestation, etc. in that list, I see that these are also covered under what God sees as abominable behaviour.

And all these will be judged for their sinful lives & the saddest thing is that they will suffer the same fate as those who never did any good, but only evil, as Satan & his cohorts did. Which speaks to me that in spite of all the good that man can do for others, still if there is unconfessed & unforgiven sin in his life, his pitiful end is certain.

Thank you for further information on your life & aspirations, Josef. A French University? I don't know the country you live in but French must be your mother tongue. Those are two great fields (Sound & Software Engineering), which would be useful in the Church or in Missions, especially in Bible Translation Work. But of course, you would still want to first be established in regular employment, developing that University knowledge into practical experience & a career. True, we can only please our God by all that we are, what we have & what we do. God requires of us no more than our full love & faithfulness to Him. He will do the rest.( Romans 12:1).

So you can still have a career & also give of your love & experience to the Lord's work that will build up His Church. Some of us here on this site, did just that: personally, I worked during the day (so I had money to live & give for the Lord's Work/Missions), & on some nights I dropped tracts (small Christian Gospel leaflets) walking around in my neighbourhood & on weekends, did street evangelism & sometimes shared in a Bible study. That way I kept myself busy doing what the Lord put onto my heart - and the wonderful thing was that while in prayer one morning (in 1987), the Lord specifically guided me to full time service (I mentioned to you about being in Pakistan). When we submit ourselves wholly to Him, He promises to be with us & lead us in HIS paths.

Doing a Bible course online or at a Bible College is very useful but care should be taken first. Ask yourself: is this something that the Lord would have me do at this time? What do I know about the College or course of studies: do research on their requirements & Statement of beliefs & practises (not all colleges hold to pure biblical teaching). Their costs? How long is the course? Is the certificate at the end of the course of any value? But never forget, personal Bible study is most useful. I hope some of this advice helps you further.

Does the Old or New Testament predict the end of days ??

CH 21 v8. Don't understand the types of people to not enter Heaven.

so this means , i need a strong faith okey it's a deal that i love for only our lord Jesus Christ .

and also the pope is a sinner like any other man ,understood.

"Jesus Christ through His death & resurrection gives us certainty that those who come by faith will be saved from Hell & it won't be dependent on what we try to do to clean ourselves up."

i believe in that too no doubt in it .. the strong faith , to the strong faith , through the strong faith , until the strongest of the strongest from all who has faith .

in the name of that holy vision that i had , if any of you experienced that he will know exactly what i'm talking about .

Didn't you take on the name of Christ when you were saved? If the answer is yes, then why would you not also take on the attribute to be sinless, to sin no more? In John 5:14 and John 8:11 Jesus tells man and woman to go and sin no more. Also note that Jesus taught that we will be known by our fruit, which is either good or evil. Matthew 7:16-20 here Jesus tells us that the tree will either be good or evil not both. Which are you, good or evil? If you still sin, you are evil.

Satan was not in Heaven. He was not cast out of Heaven anywhere in the Bible. He was not an angel of God ever. This presents us with a God that cannot control His angels, nor can He actually save us from sin if you still commit sin after being saved. Let's consider something here. A person knows he's sinned, he feels convicted of it. He then repents and asks God to forgive his sins. By faith it is done. The sins he used to do is forgiven and forgotten. Now since God is more than fair to us all, let's reverse things. The man that was saved commits sin. He is no longer saved because he repented, changed his mind is part of repentance. His life of salvation is now forgotten. That is how this works. You are not saved and sin too. Yes I know there is the 2nd work to be done called sanctification that a person that is currently saved from sin can ask God to remove his carnal nature and clean his spiritual heart and to fill it with the Holy Ghost. Now that person is truly free from all committed and inherited sins. But he does not go about still committing sin or he is lost still.

Question: if you are saved and yet commit sin, when do you stop sinning? When you enter the Kingdom of God? If yes, then the Kingdom of God is here now for you to enter. Come to the Church Of God, a church building where the saved do not say they're saved and yet sin.

So again the question, do you claim salvation and still sin? You as the tree are either good or evil not both. Saved or sinner. Only two choices.