Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 219

  • Woe - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I always start with what Jesus says;

    Matthew 12:39 Context

    36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. 38Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. 42The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

    So now, do you think that Jesus said what he did in idle fashion?

    Jonah 1:17

    "Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."

    As for what you posted, it is a misnomer. A day starts at evening and ends at evening. There is a mistranslation in scripture. It's not as the sun began to rise ....it's as the new day began to dawn or spring forth, or up. Mary came to the tomb as Saturday ended and Sunday began, which was SUNSET. When a new day begins!

    The following verse is a more accurate description and translation.

    John 20:1

    "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre."
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 2. Woe.

    Without debating the actually day of Christ's crucifixion (whether Wednesday, Thursday or Friday), the point here is if Jesus was resurrected on the Sabbath (the 7th day) then Sabbath-keepers might be emboldened to honor that day (i.e. in rest & worship). But if Jesus was resurrected on the Sunday (as the Scriptures tell us), then it shows that the Church was not bound to the Old Law but to the New Covenant, and was free to worship on any day. And Sunday, the Lord's Day, was set aside for these followers of Christ to gather together aligning with their Savior's resurrection & victory over sin & death.

    The fact that the Church, in its infancy, still attended the synagogue ( Acts 2:46) is important, until the formation of 'house-type Churches' meeting on a Sunday, the first day of the week, of which we read in Acts 20:7,8 and 1 Corinthians 16:2.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 1.

    Well Woe, we were still dealing with the Decalogue & its applicability to the Church (are we done with that?), so that is why I didn't want to side track towards the dates of the burial & resurrection of Jesus. But since you have brought it up, let's proceed.

    I always begin with what we already know (from Scripture), and that is the Day of Christ's Resurrection. Mark 16:1,2,9: "And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils".

    In these verses, we read that Jesus was resurrected early on the first day of the week (v9), that the two Marys would have rested on the Sabbath Day & prepared their spices (as you mentioned), and as soon as it was morning (actually, still dark - John 20:1) after the Sabbath, these women came to the sepulchre. Some have swapped the commas here, to read: "Now when Jesus was risen, early the first day of the week he appeared". Even if one does that, with the Jewish day reckoned from sundown to sundown, the Sabbath would have ended about eleven hours before, thus confirming that Jesus didn't arise from the dead on Sabbath Day, but on the first day of the week, Sunday. Onto Page 2.
  • Woe - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes, well I do want to shed light on the false Crucifixion timeline most people buy into.

    We have clear evidence in scripture that the women who wanted to attend to Christ's body with spices couldn't, because the Sabbath drew on and Christ was placed in the tomb. Then after the sabbath they went and bought spices, took them and prepared them, which would have taken a great deal of time and then again rested on the Sabbath, Saturday, which began at Sunset on Friday. Why? Because there were two Sabbath in the week Jesus was crucified. Furthermore a biblical day begins at sunset and ends at sunset. You might not want to get into it, but it is an imperative that the crucifixion week is evaluated properly as it dispels the false teaching that Jesus was crucified on a Friday. Not only that, but in Christ's own words, He would be in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights as Jonah was in the belly of the whale. This is a full 72 hours. So Christ was placed in the tomb at sunset on Wednesday, Thursday was the High annual Sabbath of Passover. Friday was preparation for the weekly Sabbath and the weekly Sabbath began at sunset in accordance with scripture that a day begins and ends at sunset. Christ was then Resurrected at sunset on Saturday, just as Sunday began to dawn and the sun began to set. As the sun went down, Mary came to the tomb and found Christ had already risen. It was the earliest she could go after the Sabbath had ended. Christ rose on Saturday as the day came to an end. Christ did NOT rise on Sunday. He was already risen prior to the time Sunday began, which was at sunset of Saturday. Scripture tells us that the disciples were gathered in the room on Sunday for fear of the Jews. They were not meeting or holding a worship service. They were hiding.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 2. Woe

    Concerning a Friday crucifixion or Sunday resurrection, I won't get into that here, except to quote Luke 24:1, "Now upon the first day of the week.." And that is a Sunday, which follows the seventh day of the week, a Saturday/Sabbath.

    You did well to quote Galatians 5:18-25: showing that we are not under the Law, which means that we are free from its ultimate purpose: that of revealing human spiritual & mental frailty & resulting condemnation. If we break even one Law, we have broken all & remain condemned ( James 2:10). There was nothing wrong at all with the Law ( Romans 7:12), but its purpose was to lead men to Christ, not to be resurrected again by those now in Christ as some sort of rule book to follow & please God by. The only way to please the LORD is to do His Will, following the dictates of His Holy Spirit He has given us. If we use the Decalogue as some sort of yardstick to measure our spiritual standard & acceptance to God, then we have failed & missed the whole point of Christ's Sacrifice & the great matchless worth of the New Covenant in His Blood. Thank you for your time.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Barbra,

    Amen! The creators of this website have been so gracious in giving us a platform to come and fellowship together in God's word.

    Blessings to you in Christ Jesus!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Chris,

    Thanks for the humor my brother. I love it! I was reading through your post and as soon as I got to the question mark, I stopped right there and looked to the ceiling, started chuckling, and was wondering if you were serious. Then I continued reading on. That was good. I'm glad that you and others are being blessed by the things I am sharing.

    The Lord is good!
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 1.

    Thanks for your further comments Woe. It is correct that "Abraham obeyed my (God's) voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws" ( Genesis 26:5). But when did all these commandments, statutes & laws given to Abraham? If God covenanted with Abraham concerning blessing, inheritance, & multiplication of his seed (as per the Genesis references I gave previously), where in Scripture do we find that these Laws (particularly the Decalogue) was ever given to Abraham? Could these laws, commandments & statutes be different to what was given at Mt. Sinai, regulations that pertained specifically to Abraham's life & direction he was to take? Not to say that something of the Mosaic Law would not be included in that giving to Abraham, but we are not told specifically what was given, therefore we are not at liberty to assume or presume (which is a fundamental biblical rule).

    No, Jesus doesn't "tell all men to keep God's 10 commandments". He was speaking to the Jews who were under the Law - Gentiles & the Church never received the Law & were never brought under it. Where we find in the NT about believers needing to obey God's Commandments (as in 1 John 2:3, 1 John 5:3), it is spoken as to those not under the Law but under the Law of the Spirit. And the Holy Spirit will certainly bring before us God's Commandments, and many, many more than the few in the Decalogue that pertained only to Israel who had long forgotten the God of Israel when in Egypt ( Exodus 3:13,14). The Ten Commandments were given to a discouraged enslaved people who had lost all knowledge of God & His requirements - given to them to show God's Standard of worship & godly living, but ultimately to reveal to them their sin, their need to trust & hope in the Living God & their need of a Savior.
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - 1 year ago
    Day 20 January 20,2025 John 8:36 KJV

    West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar

    Me a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles California

    John 8:36 KJV

    My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:

    " Jesus Christ is Father and the Son same language you can understand is God for us to be heirs to all the world. To believe you can do and follow Jesus and become what your expected to be the truth of God Romans 8:2 KJV, 1 Corinthians 7:22 KJV. This is the life to live also exhibited. It is used in

    discipleship- to show the Holy bible is life

    saints/ citizens- free from sin Galatians 5:1 KJV, liability, set free from thraldom, ransom Mark 10:45 KJV, evil ,captivity of Satan.

    Freedom from the laws, rules, thraldom that are not of God moral and obedience to it. You are titled to freedom to the house of God and his supper. A example of analogy used family of God Himself.

    Ways you can be free from sin are to listen to God's voice and word to obey and follow " do it" (speaking, actions, attention of communications)

    Examples of people in the holy bible that made themselves free in God you can read and follow are Romans 1:1, 2 Peter 1:1, Revelation 1:1 .

    Word Spoken and Written by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
  • Woe - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Also, you are incorrect about when God instituted the Sabbath rest or any of the other in the Ten. They were given at Creation. Abraham was selected by God, because he already was abiding by them.

    We are told in Genesis 26:5 below that Abraham did in fact keep the Commandments of God. The laws for sin were not part of that Covenant and were added later after Israel came out of Egypt. It is those laws that Jesus came to do away with, not God's laws Abraham already was keeping, established by God at Creation.

    Genesis 26

    5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. 6 And Isaac dwelt in Gerar:

    God confirmed a Covenant with Abraham, but the same Covenant made with Abraham was then made with all men, because God found all men to be in unbelief. The Jews thought they were heirs to the promise, but scripture says it was to the One Seed, Jesus. that the promise was made in Galatians 3.

    You can't claim to have the faith of Jesus if you also do not walk as He walks. Jesus tells us to take up our own cross and follow after Him. He was our example. Jesus spoke about our fruit and told us a good tree bears good fruit. Hence the fruit of the Spirit is to keep God's eternal law which brings no condemnation, but avoid works of the flesh which do.

    Galatians 5

    18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

    25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
  • Woe - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thanks for you input. I disagree with your assessment because scripture reveals time and time again that God's Saints keep the Commandments of God and the Faith of Jesus. I gave scripture that specifically tells us the 10 Commandments Moses put on the tablets are in fact the Covenant words God gave to Abraham. Reject it if you will, however the words as proof within scripture remain and will not be moved or changed by the will of others wanting to hold views contrary to this truth.

    The following also adequately supports my position. However there are numerous other examples I could share, notwithstanding, Jesus Himself tells all men to keep God's 10 Commandments.

    Many, many preachers teach falsity and lies. Some out of ignorance and others out of greed. Just as many listen to them and don't do their own due diligence to verify what they are told is truth.

    James 2:18 Context

    15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

    Furthermore, I can show definitive proof using scripture that Jesus was not Crucified or buried on a Friday, nor did Jesus rise on Sunday. A Friday Crucifixion and Sunday Resurrection is given as the basis for most Sunday observing denominations in holding Sunday in regard rather than God's Commanded Sabbath. However they err in doing so and as I said, I can demonstrate using scripture why they err in this.
  • Bronco wildtrak - 1 year ago
    Famous saying " we are not sinners because we sin, we are sinners because we are born sinners ".

    Now we all know why we are sinners, it's one man's disobedience. " Adam "

    Romans 5:19

    For as by one man's disobedience many were madesinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    Blame it on Adam disobedience to God for our death, but God gives life .

    1 Corinthians 15:22

    For as inAdamall die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    We may all die in the flesh some day, but God give life through Jesus Christ .

    Romans 6:23

    For thewagesofsinis death; but the giftofGod is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 2. Woe.

    Matthew 5:18,19. Jesus was speaking about obedience to the whole Law, not to what the Pharisees taught that some Laws were less important to others. And as those under the Law, Jesus taught that the whole Law was current until "all be fulfilled" (i.e. only Jesus could keep the Law perfectly & through His death & resurrection, fulfilled the Law, removed the curse, by being made a curse on our behalf). Once that curse that the Law brought was removed by His death, we are no longer under the Law which only brought death, but now receive the blessing of Abraham, receiving God's Promises to us, not by the keeping the Law, but by obedience to the Spirit by the exercise of faith ( Galatians 3:10-14, also Romans 8:2-4).

    Yes, Jesus' death fulfilled all the sacrifices that Israel had to do year-by-year, and these sacrifices looked forward to God's Perfect once-for-all Sacrifice. But only by Jesus' death could the New Covenant be ushered in, the Old had to be abolished, or else the New could not take effect (you can't have two Covenants operating simultaneously). And the Old Covenant most certainly included the Ten Commandments & every Law that was given to Israel. Those who are in Christ no longer abide by a Law that only had condemnation & death as its end, but now we can live according to the ministry of the Holy Spirit Who gives Life & Power to know & abide by all of God's Commandments.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Page 1.

    Thank you Woe for your detailed response. If I might begin at the start of your comment. You referred to Galatians chapter 3 & Exodus 34:28. The Covenant that God made with Abraham (otherwise called the Abrahamic Covenant) had nothing to do with the Ten Commandments ( Ex 34:28 doesn't indicate that at all). The Abrahamic Covenant is found in various portions in Genesis 12:1-3; Genesis 15:18-21; Genesis 17:1-22; Genesis 22:16-18. The Ten Commandments were never given to Abraham; Abraham was commended for his faith & obedience, outside of any Law. He only received the Promise.

    Galatians 3:17-19 which you quoted. Verse 17 particularly: "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect". The comparison here is made to the promise of God to Abraham (the Covenant), that the Ten Commandments were given 430 years after God's Promises to Abraham. So, there aren't two Laws, just one given at Mt. Sinai - what was given to Abraham wasn't the Law but the inheritance by Promise. (cont'd on Page 2)
  • Fuji - In Reply - 1 year ago
    You make a very good arguement for your point thank you . Also , if we see that Christ is represented in the Old Testament by the Ark of the Covenant , then we must remember that the Ark contained the tablets of stone with the ten commandments on and also , that all of the ten commandments are based on love , love God and love our neighbour . This is the whole law , Jesus says that somewhere I'm sure .

    All those other laws are about punishments for breaking the ten commandments , punishments for sin . Humans created sin , God created love , indeed God is love .
  • Fuji - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you and yes ! The Bible is life , I feel alive when I read it and I feel alive when I am going about my daily life whilst thinking about the things that I have read ! I am so grateful to God that He has given us this amazing way to feel connected to Him , we are alive in Christ and because of Christ ! He is the life in us ! He is the Way ! The Way to God , all we need do is keep his Words ( which God gave him to give to us ) in our hearts and minds as much as possible . Those Words are the water of life springing up in us . The Word is life !
  • Michael homan on John 2 - 1 year ago
    Thus saith Mary, mother of Jesus

    Whatsoever he saith unto you

    Do it
  • Woe - In Reply - 1 year ago
    So lets break this down for you to see; God's Ten Commandments are not the laws that Jesus did away with.

    When we read below, we are shown that the Covenant law is distinct and separate from the sin laws which came 430 years later as clearly shown in verse 17. Those later additions were sacrificial laws and days set up to be observed for sin offering and the days created pertaining to them, due to sin. They were not given by God, but added because of men's transgression. They were added by men, not God.

    Galatians 3

    17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

    18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

    19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

    The law questioned in the incipient part of verse 19, specifically applies to this part of verse 17; "the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after".

    The law questioned in verse 19 above, doesn't apply to the Ten Commandments, which is discussed in the first part of verse 17.

    With some reading comprehension; There are in fact two distinct laws being discussed in verse 17. The first is The Covenant Law of God The Ten Commandments. The second discussed is; what was added 430 years later due to sin of men, and added by men.

    Galatians tells us it is those later additions that were to be removed by Jesus, but they would remain until Jesus did away with them, however, Jesus, Himself, tells us that God's Covenant law will remain in effect until the heaven and earth are removed.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thanks brother Jesse for the time you've taken to help increase our knowledge & understanding of God's Word. Many things have been quite new to me & doubtless, for both knowledge & edification. Speaking of "edifying, a construction term": could the one who has been edified now be called an edifice? Just kidding of course. Then of course, we also have certain in the Church considered as 'pillars of the faith'; so there seems to be good use of terms describing the building up of the Body of Christ on Earth. Thanks again brother - looking forward to Galatians.
  • Woe - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Sorry. Scripture clearly disagrees with your statement the the 10 Commandments only apply to the Jews. This is discussed in Galatians 3. There was confusion as to what law Jesus did away with. The law of the Covenant that was given to Abraham was The Ten Commandments. Just as is also recorded when Moses re-wrote them on the tablets. The laws for sin were added later and it is these that Jesus came to do away with. We see The Ten Commandments were the words of the Covenant.

    See here;

    Exodus 34:28

    "And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."

    Exodus 34 specifically says the words of the Covenant that was made with Abraham are God's Ten Commandments.

    Then in Galatians we are show the difference between God's Law and those added due to sin, by men, the laws for sin were added 430 year later and were not part of the Covenant Law which is The Ten Commandments.

    It's why Jesus says;

    Matthew 5:18

    "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

    See also;

    Galatians Chapter 3

    17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

    18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

    19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

    God's Ten Commandments remain in effect for all men.

    Jesus tells all men to keep the Commandments of God. There is no Conversion if men reject them.

    Revelation 14:12

    Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (2 Corinthians Part 30):

    2 Corinthians 13:9 - For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.

    For we are glad, when we are weak, and you are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.

    The word "perfection" is KATARTIDZO, which means to mend. It's a medical term for the mending of broken bones. It's very important why Paul would not say the word for maturity, but the word for mending. We see the same word in Matthew 4:21.



    In Ephesians 4:12, Paul used KATARTIDZO, and we have translated it "equipping of the saints." It has nothing to do with equipping the saints. It's the mending of the saints. He says in Ephesians Chapter 4 that God has given those in ministry for the mending of the saints for the work of ministry.

    In other words, the first priority in a believer's life is to get their life mended, healed, so that they can get on their feet and have a good healthy relationship with the Lord. Then they enter into ministry or service as God calls!

    2 Corinthians 13:11 - Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

    First of all, farewell literally means to rejoice. CHAIRETE is the Modern Greek term for greetings, either hello or goodbye. So, when he says farewell, he says be rejoicing. But you should also know that in Greek, the word rejoicing has nothing to do with a happy feeling. It's the Greek word for satisfaction or contentment.

    Second command, be perfect. Again, KATARTIDZO. Be of good comfort, or encouragement. And again, this is the Passive Voice. It means receive encouragement from God. Be of one mind, frame of mind. It means to have the same approach to life and the things of Christ.

    That's all I have for 2 Corinthians. On to Galatians next. We're getting into shorter books so this should go a little quicker. Some of you are probably saying "thank God!"

    Blessings to you all in Christ Jesus!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (2 Corinthians Part 29):

    2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

    Here, Paul quotes Deuteronomy19:15. And what is interesting is that the word for "word" is the word RHEMA, which is not only the word for a word or speech, but it is also used for a thing, like an issue. What it's really saying is everything is to be established by the mouth of two or three witnesses.

    That principle is not only found in the Old Testament, but it was taught by Jesus in Matthew 18:15-21. Jesus said if somebody has offended you, sinned against you, you go to them privately and settle the matter. If he will not hear you, he doesn't want anything to do with what you are saying, the second phase is to take two witnesses to establish what's going on. A lot of people don't understand this phase.

    2 Corinthians 13:5 - Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

    Examine yourselves, whether you be in the faith; That's not a religious term about the faith. The word faith in the New Testament is a word speaks of literally being under the persuasion of God's Spirit. That's what the word faith means. It means persuasion. So, are you under the influence of God's Spirit? Are you in the faith?

    2 Corinthians 13:7 - Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.

    Now I pray to God that you do no evil; The word evil is KAKOS, which means to do harm or wrong.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (2 Corinthians Part 28):

    2 Corinthians 12:20 - For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:

    For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as you would not: That is, you expect me to show up, and we have friendly fellowship. But if I show up and find you in a certain condition, then you're going to find me in a different condition than you would have expected.

    Lest there be debates, and that's the word for quarreling. Envyings is literally jealousies. Wraths is literally bouts of anger, outbursts of rage. The next one is strifes, and it's related to the word for debates, except this is a political word that means self-ambition.

    Backbitings is public slander and defamation. Whisperings is the word for whisper, but it means private slander against others. Swellings, which literally is the word inflation. It has to do with pride. And tumults is disorderliness. It's even used for causing riots, people who cause war and battle in churches.

    Quarrels, jealousies, bouts of rage, self-ambition, public slander, private slander, pride, and disorderliness, he says you guys' better shape up, because if I come and I find these things, then I'm going to have to deal with it!
  • Bronco wildtrak - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Fuji thank you for sharing John chapter 4. I can read this chapter and find so much wisdom.

    I find this very interesting because Apostle Paul didn't baptize many people. " 1 Corinthians 1:17

    For Christ sent me not tobaptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. "

    John 4:2

    (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

    It amaze me that she claim Jacob as of her father and was not even a Jew herself. " Romans 2:29

    But he is aJew, which is oneinwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. "

    John 4:12

    Art thou greater than our fatherJacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?

    Because Jesus told her, she had five husbands, she believed the more. " Proverbs 15:3

    The eyes of theLordare in every place, beholding theevilandthegood. "

    John 4:18

    For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly

    When God made Adam and Eve, they were both soul and spirit first. God made them at the same time. " Genesis 1:27

    So God createdmanin his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. "

    John 4:24

    God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    Jesus had a command to the twelve: " Matthew 10:5

    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commandedthem, saying,GonotintothewayoftheGentiles, and into any cityoftheSamaritans enter yenot: "

    John 4:27

    And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?

    John 4:42

    And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

    The Bible is a great book and is alive ...
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (2 Corinthians Part 27):

    2 Corinthians 12:18 - I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make a gain of you? walked we not in the same spirit? walked we not in the same steps?

    I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make a gain of you? Again, expecting the answer no. Walked we not in the same spirit? Here there is a different Greek word that means yes. Walked we not in the same steps? And again, it's expecting the response of yes. It is important not just for one person to have the proper motive, but make sure that he doesn't send other people with the wrong motive.

    2 Corinthians 12:19 - Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying.

    The word think is the word presume. And the word excuse is the word for apologetics, a defense. So again, do you presume that we are making a defense of ourselves to you? We speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying. The word edifying is a construction term that means to be developed, to build a house. He says our whole purpose and motivation is your growth in the Lord. Again, very rare to have a pure motive like that!
  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    (2 Corinthians Part 26):

    2 Corinthians 12:9 - And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

    And he said unto me, and the term "he said" is called the Perfect Tense in Greek which means this is going to be a standard condition for Paul. This is a standard principle and concept that is true from God.

    2 Corinthians 12:12 - Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

    This word patience is the word HUPOMENO which means endurance.

    2 Corinthians 12:14 - Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

    For I seek not yours, but you: Wow! The word "you" is literally (your soul). He's saying I don't seek what you have, your possessions, your money, whatever. I seek you, your soul. Talk about conviction! The only motivation for service to others is the condition of their soul. Paul says I'm not after your things. The Lord wants me to be concerned about people's souls, not about their possessions. It doesn't matter if they have money or not. It depends upon their soul.

    2 Corinthians 12:17 - Did I make a gain of you by any of them whom I sent unto you?

    In the Greek text, this expects the negative answer. Paul did not make gain of them, nor did he send anyone to them to make gain of them.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Spencer,

    It's possible that if they had the Holy Spirit, they may have been able to discern, but no guarantee. As for Matthew 28:17, those who were following along but still had doubt seem to fit the description given to us in James 1:8 of a "double-minded man." In Matthew Chapter 28, they see Jesus, they are worshipping Him, but there's another side of them that says this is too good to be true. They still had their doubts.

    We know that Peter trusted Jesus, but when he was placed in an extremely difficult circumstance, he began to doubt as we see in Matthew 14:31. Peter was trying to look at Jesus and trust Him, and yet looking at the circumstances at the same time. We know Peter was saved. What become of those doubters in Matthew 28:17, we don't know but we can only hope that the Lord removed their doubt just as He did for Peter.

    Blessings again my brother!
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    Great reminder Brother Jesse.

    Judas Iscariot would be a good example of that.

    No one suspected him. He fit right in with them from the outside looking in.

    I've wondered if the Desciples would have been given the Spirit at that time would they have been able to disern that something wasn't quite right with him.

    In Matthew 28:17 It amazes me how they saw the Lord, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

    Again, Thanks for all that you do.

    Blessings
  • Fuji - 1 year ago
    John chapter 4 is a long chapter and lots of different things happen in it . The things that stand out to me are :

    Verse 10+11 is this the water previously mentioned in chapter 3 verse 5 ?

    Jesus reveals himself as the Messiah to a Samaritan woman ! How many times does Jesus not tell people that he is the Messiah or if they do recognise him he tells them to tell no one ? Dozens I think and yet here he is telling a woman who is a Samaritan that she's talking to the promised Messiah ! Amazing and very significant I think . Then , later on , it's obvious that some of these Samaritans didn't believe her account of Jesus because they say in verse 42 : Now we believe , not because of thy saying : for we have heard him ourselves and know that this is indeed the Christ , the Saviour of the world . This reminds me of when Mary ran to tell the disciples that she had seen Jesus ressurected and they didn't believe her ! This also teaches me that I need to read the Bible , read God's Words for myself and not rely on someone else account of these things , search the scriptures Jesus says , this I will do . I also noticed that it doesn't say that the Samaritans were convinced that Jesus is the Messiah because of a miracle but because of what Jesus said to them but in verse 48 , when Jesus was in Galilee , he says : Except ye see signs and wonders , ye will not believe . The Samaritans didn't need to see signs and wonders .

    Verse 24 : God is a Spirit reminds me of Luke chapter 24 verse 39 : Behold my hands and my feet that it is I myself : handle me , and see ; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones as ye see me have . A very exciting chapter , full of information and I'm certain I haven't noticed everything of significance !
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Spencer,

    Those are great verses you gave from Matthew Chapter 7. This tells us that there are people who are going to be amongst the Christians, amongst the fellowship of the church, and they are going to look like sheep, and they are going to act like sheep. But they are not saved believers.

    I'm also reminded of Judas Iscariot. He was in the fellowship with the other disciples and yet he was evil the entire time. When Jesus said one of you will betray me, the other disciples had no idea it was Judas. None of them even suspected Judas. He probably played the part well, looking and acting like the others, but he was evil from the beginning to the end.

    I am finishing up with 2 Corinthians. Hopefully I can post later this evening.

    Blessings to you also!


Viewing page: 219 of 5497

< Previous Discussion Page    Next Discussion Page >

209   210   211   212   213   214   215   216   217   218   219   220   221   222   223   224   225   226   227   228  

 

Do you have a Bible comment or question?


Posting comments is currently unavailable due to high demand on the server.
Please check back in an hour or more. Thank you for your patience!