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Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

The Godhead speaking to each other, in Scripture:

Genesis 1:26, Genesis 3:22, Genesis 11:7

1 John 5:7, Book of John 10:30

Acts 17:27-30

The Godhead represents The Father, The Son of God, the Holy Spirit.

Comment: many people argue on this and this is a case of: Let God be true and every man a liar. Don't twist scriptures to validate your theories.

Jesus left heaven to come to earth and His name was the Son of man: fully God and fully human. He set aside his power to begin life as a baby, child and at age 30 he began his mission: to teach, make disciples, heal the sick, cleanse the leper's, cast out demons, doing good.

He was put on trial for blasphemy: saying he and His Father are ONE. He was judged and ordered to be crucified. He even saved one of the thieves he was crucified next to. Buried 3 days and then He walked out of the tomb! Many people went on record having seen him walking around after resurrection. It's recorded in the Bible and human history books. His ascension back into heaven was eye witnessed. Later, Jesus knocked Paul off his horse, blinded him but other people there HEARD an audible voice speak to Paul. It was Jesus!

Flash back to Pentecost: the Holy Spirit of God appears in the Upper Room as a roaring Wind and everyone receives His Baptism! It spills out into the street and everyone is hearing their own languages spoken! Many people were saved that day. He is spirit, so he is invisible; but unmistakably present in our world. He reveals Jesus to common people every day.

Life is EXCITING! Why would anyone turn down so great a salvation? Copy this down & preach it to family and friends.

Stop procrastinating!

M.

Being Alone and Isolated

Satans best tool against anybody, saved or unsaved, is ISOLATION. You are vulnerable because of it.

The Humility of Jesus is shown in how he cared for people who came to Him for help. It was spiritual and practical.

There are many, many ministries who could use an extra pair of hands, and a friendly smile.

You aren't going to have a husband ring the doorbell. You need to make some calls; call your church for advise. Be VISABLE. Try to break out of solitude, doing one of these following ministries:

Feeding ministries (packing or distributing

Benevolence (Clothing,toys,shoes)

Collecting coats for Kids

Helping with blue or brown Santa

Writing out Holiday greeting cards for shut-in's or elderly

Your local civic organizations (paint scenery for Christmas plays, find costumes, etc

Help Habitat for Humanity

A Christian man may be out in the midst of all that: being his kind and caring self. As long as you're isolated you will not be in range of meeting. (Mission accomplished by Satans crummy helpers.) Conversation in public only.

If your church doesn't do these kind of things; find a church with a big singles ministry. No rule says you can't visit other singles ministries and attend your regular church.

John 10:10

"The thief (satan) cometh not, but for to steal (your joy and peace), and to kill (your faith that God loves you), and to destroy (you! Piece by piece). I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly (Jesus)."

You have to fight back like a warrior, Ephesians 6.

Amos 3:3

Can two walk together, except they be agreed? {Pray to receive a life partner, or spouse.}. This doesn't work unless you feed your faith. Have an inner attitude of praise and worship towards God. Participate in life outside of your house.

Refuse violently when demons of doubt come to shred your faith. Eph.6

You need to print this out or copy. Tape it to the back of your closet door.

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Re: Adam's first sinless state. Again, allowing your comment: "Yes, excepting Adam and Eve were created sinless and I had to gain sinless life via repentance to be saved and then later to be sanctified to be rid of the inherited sin passed on from Adam's fallen state." I agree, the corruption that came to you (& me) because of sin has remained with us, but your claim to now be sinless (= no inherited sin) through sanctification, tells me that all corruption has now been removed from you, or else you can't be sinless. However, once corrupt, the flesh remains in that condition (death being its final proof) in spite of a miraculous spiritual renewal by God. If God through His Son's Sacrifice would also remove that corruption, then you would be like Adam pre-fall & never fall ill, be diseased or die - it's impossible, as it would destroy the whole meaning of being incorruptible. Both Adam & Jesus could not die naturally, whether by disease or old age. Adam eventually did die because he was a sinner with a corrupt nature - Jesus did die because He was sinless but chose to surrender His Life: John 10:18, "No man taketh it (My Life) from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."

The one who is sinless, has no corrupt nature & therefore can never die, as death is the final product of sin, which sin you aren't in possession of, as you believe.

Acts 17

29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

THE GODHEAD SCRIPTURES

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

1 John 5:7.

John 10:30, I and My Father are one.

My favorite is Malachi 3:16-17. God listens when we talk together about Him.

Also, in these following scriptures , we clearly see the Godhead ( Acts 17:27-30) speaking to each other.

NOTE: In the King James Bible, the words , TRINITY and TRIUNE, ARE NOT used. Someone who was unable to teach LET US as a lesson, used these other words to describe, 'Three.'

If we used the Search Box provided on this website you would have seen it come up with No scriptures for Triune and Trinity. In the King James Bible the scriptures are what your search will fetch.

Mishael

Acts 17

29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

THE GODHEAD SCRIPTURES

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

1 John 5:7.

John 10:30, I and My Father are one.

Also, in these following scriptures , we clearly see the Godhead ( Acts 17:27-30) speaking to each other.

NOTE: In the King James Bible, the words , TRINITY and TRIUNE,

ARE NOT used. Someone who was unable to teach LET US as a lesson, used these other words to describe, 'Three.'

If we used the Search Box provided on this website you would have seen it came up with NOTHING for triune and Trinity.

Father God is spirit

The Holy Spirit is spirit

Jesus is called, Son of Man. He is all God and all man. God in the flesh: so He could be the Lamb of God and save us from our sins.

Note these in your Bible. It comes up quite a lot.

Mishael

4. INTIMIDATION and MANIPULATION between you and your seat in (person's name)

I now take the Sword of the Spirit and I sever this cord of domination, intimidation and manipulation, in the Almighty name of Jesus! It is written in:

John 10:2-5: "But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. The watchman opens the door for this man, and the sheep listen to his voice and heed it; and he calls his own sheep by name and brings them out. When he has brought his own sheep outside, he walks on before them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice. They will never follow a stranger, but will run away from him because they do not know the voice of strangers or recognize their call."

5. I now address you, Jezebel in the spiritual realm, and I declare that I recognize that cord of FALSE RELIGION between you and your seat in my life or in___________life.

I now take the Sword of the Spirit and I sever this cord of false religion in the Almighty name of Jesus! It is written in:

"God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth." ( John 4:24)

Father, in the name of Jesus Christ Your Son, I now declare:

A divorce with the spirit of Jezebel

A cancellation of all worship she ever received through me, my ancestors or descendants

Nullification of any and every covenant ever made with her

Renunciation of the Ahab spirit

In the authority of the mame of Jesus Christ, I now take this seat in myself and hand it over to the Kingdom of God.

Father, in Jesus name I ask that You will remove the following curses and results due to my ancestors' and my own involvement with this Jezebel spirit's activities:

1. Curse of a bed of anguish and suffering

2. Downheartedness

3. Curse of the utmost judgement

4. Curse of death (Rev.2:22,23)

5. Curse of humiliation and nakedness

6. Curse of slavery

7. Curse of senility

8. Curse of homosexuality and lesbianism

Thanks for your question.

John 1

Revelation

Psalm 22

Hebrews

John 10:30

Hopefully these are helpful in your studies

Luke

why do the commentary notes of 1599 Geneva Bible refer to 1 Macc 4:59 in reference to John 10:22, but Macc is not a book available in this Bible or the KJV ?

TO RICHARD & MISHAEL

And the sheep follow him: for they know His voice ( John 10:4).

And other sheep I have, which are not of this folds: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd ( John 10:16).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

We wish you well in your search for the true and living God ( John 10:3,16).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

God bless you Frank, Creation even in destruction by wild fire, new life will come forward if God wills.

Enjoy Gods creations and some say there is no God.

Dear Andy, What I have very recently written is my testimony.

My love to you reaches St John's and Halifax and surrounding farm lands to this very hour. Songs are being sung, widows are being visited, love is being shared in hospitals, and grain is likely now in harvest.

Carleton

Jesus froght suffer and died for our sins. Came down from heaven knowingly, too teach and preach about why he was here. When it come to the truth, people say tell it to me straight; but ready don't want to here. That's what Jesus did for the short time he was he on earth. He died for our sins so that we, all humanity would have a right to the tree of life. Tell everyone too repent and pray. In reference to John 10.

40. Resurrection and the Life - "Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die." John 11:25

41. The Door - "I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture." John 10:9

42. The Way - "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

43. The Word - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1

44. True Vine - "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser." John 15:1

45. Truth - "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." John 8:32

46. Victorious One - "To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne." Rev. 3:21

47 - 50. Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.

And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." Is. 9:6

All thisand so much more.

He alone is worthy.

Jesus.

After all the "discussion" over the weekend about Jesus's name ( Yeshua, Messiah, etc)

He's worth so much more than to be an object of disagreements. Am I the only one who felt like crying?

Mishael

Jesus provides divine operating assets for life with God.Genuine believers receive freedom from guilt and the misery of the effects of sin. They also receive divine operating assets to live for the Lord day by day. The way of all divine fellowship and communion is through Christ. John 10:7, John 10:10.

50 Names and Titles of Jesus:

1. Almighty One -who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Rev. 1:8

2. Alpha and Omega - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Rev. 22:13

3. Advocate - My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 1 John 2:1

4. Author and Perfecter of Our Faith - Fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb. 12:2

5. Authority - Jesus said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Matt. 28:18

6. Bread of Life - Then Jesus declared, 'I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. John 6:35

7. Beloved Son of God - And behold, a voice from heaven said, This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased Matt. 3:17

8. Bridegroom - And Jesus said to them, Can the wedding guests mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? The days will come when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast. Matt. 9:15

9. Chief Cornerstone - The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner stone." Ps. 118:22

10. Deliverer - And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come. 1 Thess.1:10

11. Faithful and True - "I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war." Rev.19:11

12. Good Shepherd - "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." John 10:11

13. Great High Priest - "Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession." Heb. 4:14

The Godhead Scriptures

Acts 17

29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

THE GODHEAD SCRIPTURES

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

1 John 5:7.

John 10:30, I and My Father are one.

My favorite is Malachi 3:16-17. God listens when we talk together abut Him.

Also, in these following scriptures , we clearly see the Godhead ( Acts 17:27-30) speaking to each other.

NOTE: In the King James Bible, the words , TRINITY and TRIUNE,

ARE NOT used!!! Someone who was unable to teach LET US as a lesson, used these other words to describe, Three.

If you had used the Search Box provided on this website you would have seen it come up with NOTHING for triune and Trinity. No further comment is needed.

Mishael

US is the LET US in 2 of the Godhead scriptures. They were discussing a situation amongst themselves: 3 Persons in the Godhead: Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7; 1 John 5:7

John 10:30 and Acts 17: 27-30

Write those down. It comes up in conversation a lot.

Hi Mike,

I'd like to share an alternate viewpoint if you are open to it.

Do you believe that Jesus often spoke parables? These stories and metaphors were a means for teaching and he explained why he used them: Luke 8:10

So, when Jesus said to eat his flesh and blood in John 6:53 did he literally mean to kill him and resort to cannibalism? I believe not, based on all his previous metaphors. Even his followers knew it was symbolic, but didn't quite understand the symbolism yet.

Jesus also said a few verses earlier in John 6:35 that he's the bread of life. Does that mean he's literally a loaf of bread walking and talking? It was a metaphor.

Jesus also explained the purpose of communion in Luke 22:19. Do it in remembrance of Him. If the goal was to literally eat and drink Jesus then you would think he would not have said this. It suggests the whole purpose of communion is to remember Jesus and His sacrifice for our sins and not that we're supposed to literally eat and drink him as food.

Also Jesus says John 14:6, John 10:9, Acts 4:12 that he's the only way for salvation. Not a man. So, I feel if a religion uses another man, like a Pope, in-between you and Jesus that you must go through then it is a false teaching inconsistent with scripture.

God bless!

J. Reid from Canada :),

T. Levis from USA

This is a hugely debated issue within churches 4 sure.

John 13:34-35

Romans 16:17-18

2 Timothy 2:14-15

If there isn't a rapture could it be the cause of a great falling away?

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

Revelation 6:8-11

GOD be with us all who believe, love & trust HIM, to strengthen, hold, protect & keep us faithful

Jude 1:24-25

John 10:28-29

Genesis 5:21-24

2 Kings 2:11

Mark 16:19

Acts 1:6-9

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Mathew 24:37-46

I hope these are helpful

Excellent point! Jesus often embodied the fulfillment of scripture before their eyes, that they (and we) are without excuse.

People naturally interpret this different ways. You can get a rough survey of widespread opinion by simply listening to prayers. People often use different terms interchangeably, like Dear... Lord, Jesus, Father, God, etc. I personally believe God looks at the heart and that people are not sinning by using the wrong proper noun.

It is my opinion that we are to pray to the Father in the name of Jesus. Jesus said no one comes to the father but through me. That doesn't automatically mean we switch and start worshiping and praying to Jesus only. Jesus is the pathway; he said he's the way to get to the Father. It doesn't say the Father is the way to get to Jesus, or that Jesus is the way to get to Jesus. So, I believe it implies that we are trying to follow Jesus to lead us to the Father. John 14:6. Jesus intercedes for us. Romans 8:34. It said to follow Jesus in His example, but no where in the Bible am I aware of it saying to worship and sing songs solely to Jesus.

Of course confusion is not surprising as it says Jesus and God the Father are one. Of course, they're separate to some extent, but united. We just don't know to what extent they are united or as 'one'. John 10:30.

John 7:16-18. Jesus was sent by God the Father. He was presenting information pre-approved by God the Father. There is a slight hierarchy in my opinion. So, I think to pray to Jesus and worship Jesus is not supported by scripture in my opinion. But if I hear someone praying to Jesus and praising Him I do not see that as offensive.

God bless...

Most assuredly remission of sins happens on earth following blood atonement (Leviticus chapters 16 and 17). Yet only the blood of Jesus Christ is adequate propitiation, he being God in the flesh ( Isaiah 53).

What Jesus demonstrated was that he had power to lay down his life and then take it again. ( John 10:18).

Admittedly the character of Christians is too often a ready excuse for unbelief.

Marginal medicine majors on the malady while repudiating the remedy.

but Jesus is God. John 10:30 .

Jesus is not God, He is the Son of God, this is the start of being a witness unto him, where to start... 1 John 4:9-15, Ephesians 1:19-20, Luke 18:18-19, 1 John 5:1-11, John 5:17-47, Hebrews 10:12, John 6:38, Matthew 16:13-17, Romans 1:9, 1 Corinthians 3:23, John ch 14, John 10:36-38, Matthew 24:36, John 8:54, John 10:17-18, Hebrews 1:1-9, Matthew 27:46, Mark 14:36, Matthew 10:40, Revelations 3:21, Mark 12:35-39, 1 Corinthians 8:5-6, Matthew 20:23, Revelations 1:1, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 1 Timothy 2:5, John 1:18

Scriptural Facts-Gen.6:4:

1. Heavenly or Fallen Angels can not procreate according to biblical scripture. ( Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34)

2. The Nephilium were present before, at the time, and after the sons of God and daughters of man had ***. They can't be their offspring, because they would have to be born first.

3. Sons of God could mean holy Angels or holy men according to scripture. ( Job 1:6; 2:1), ( Psalm 82:6, Hos. 1:10; John 10:34-38, Matt. 5:9; Luke 3:38; Rom. 8:14)

* The sons of God are the renown men of old(from seth's lineage)and were tempted by the Nephilium (Fallen angels) to lust the daughters of men(from Cain's lineage).

There can be no sin near God. As Jesus and the Father are one, in that moment a separation had to occur. Jesus TOOK ON, ALL sin. That sin had to be separated from God. The English translation for the word 'enkataleipo' (Greek) is abandoned or left behind. That sin had to be abandoned and left behind. Jesus, the man of flesh who took on the sin, was left behind. Jesus in resurrection of Spirit was not abandoned.

Comment only: Jesus experienced the pain of being separated from His Father.

If we were more sensitive we would feel that too when we sin knowing full well that we are doing it.

A conscience that feels no pain is seared. just like a strip steak you throw on a burning hot skillet.

Jesus suffered through pain of separation for every human mentioned in John 3:16. All humanity: from Genesis to Revelation.

If. as Jesus revealed as a truth in the bible, also known as the GOOD BOOK, that "I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE" - John 10:30 - why would Jesus, as the only begotten Son of God, while crucified and dying on cross cry out loud: "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?" Matt. 27:46

Poch Suzara