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If the 'other creation fell' (into sin?) how did they fall? If Satan came to them also, as he did to Adam & Eve, then did God not bother with them - or does that mean that this other creation wasn't important to Him as Adam was? Maybe they were more animal than human, & if this so, then we know that animals don't have the ability to sin.
Or, if Satan didn't approach them, then they must be sinless as sin can only come from Satan or transmitted through the Adamic bloodline - so we must have some sinless descendants from this 'other creation' still walking around in this world. You also wrote that "evil begin to spread to them as well". How then can it spread?
So many questions I have for you, that I can't find answers to in the Bible. I await your reply expectantly.
Psalm 139
13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was NOT hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and IN THY BOOK, all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!
Psalms Chapter 127
3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb IS HIS REWARD.
Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Matthew 18:10
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 18:14. Even so IT IS NOT the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish (die).
Job 12:10. In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.
Ezekiel 18:4
Behold, all souls are MINE, as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
If this isn't helpful, write back again.
Mishael
In like manner, our 'good' conscience is what is important in respect to water baptism. As Noah was saved by water, so is the believer saved by water. But Peter qualifies that: it's not the act of immersion that 'saves' us, i.e. as if water baptism washed any of our sins away - No - water baptism doesn't take away sin or even give us a new birth (the Holy Spirit does that), but the act of baptism is for the sake of our conscience. We might rejoice when we first come to know Christ & experience His new birth in us. We might go on confidently in what has taken place in our lives, even share this with others. But Satan isn't far away to make us falter & doubt whether what has happened is of God or from our own desires. Especially when we fall into sin, it's so easy to start wondering about our salvation & we might even become spiritually weak because of it.
So Peter is saying that even though water baptism doesn't save us or clean us of our sin, what it does do, is to give us a physical testimony to others & ourselves, that God has performed a special work in us: that we are now testifying publicly to it & that this act will be a testimony to Satan whenever he taunts us with doubt & fear. So it just helps to keep us in focus, just as partaking at the Lord's Table does, when we remember Christ's death for us. So baptism comes first as we identify with Christ's death & resurrection into new Life & is a witness to all: ourselves & to the evil around us.
17 He will regard the prayer of the destitute, and not despise their prayer.
18 This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD.
19 For he hath looked down from the height of his sanctuary; from heaven did the LORD behold the earth;
20 To hear the groaning of the prisoner; to loose those that are appointed to death;
21 To declare the name of the LORD in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem;
In Matthew 6, there is a passage on unforgiveness against others, that prevents the Lord from acting on OUR petitions, or prayers.
Mishael: thank God that everyone has a chance to get things right with God.
They are sent to minister to the heirs of salvation. That's believers. Could be comfort, help in a situation, cautioning.
Myself, I think mostly they are acting invisibly; but people still see them, or hear them.
There was one instance when after church I found a relative (a medium, psychic: one who can lend their bodies to attack others), trying to convince my mother the Roswell Incident was real. I waited till she finished her "spill". I said to her: those books are written to sell books, make money, deceive the unspiritual; to enrich their bank accounts.
After a long pause, she replied: you are correct. I excused myself to go to bed.
Barely asleep I was attacked. I pleaded the blood of JESUS. I heard a physical fight take place outside the window. I couldn't see anything but I was hearing violent body blows. It stopped and I was sure I'd never sleep again! Peace came over me and I fell asleep. My aunts companion left early and then she did. All I know is that I'm alive to tell of this, Praise to Jesus!
We can't order them to come to us. They are angelic agents that serve God. He sends them to the heirs who ask for help. All kinds of help: freeing up finances, a home in a safe neighborhood, driving in wicked weather, a job. They aren't our butlers or maids. Bless God they are there when we call out to Him. When fear and doubt attacks you...pray out loud to God.
If your teenagers are hanging out with the wrong crowd... ask for angels to go with them. Praise Him who hears that prayer!
God loves us so very much. He gave us the best gift of all gifts. His son. The gift is not received until you unwrap it and make it your most precious possession. Amen!
DAY 18 of Bible in a year.
And as we do that and Keep his word in our hearts as part of our daily life. He will make our ways prosperous and we will have good success.
Next - the revealing of the Antichrist
Next is - The rapture. Could be instantaneous, could take a while -God only knows
Next is - The tribulation - first 3.5 yrs only. Antichrist will rule in Jerusalem in this period
Then comes - Jesus second coming
Next is - The millenial reign - 1000 yrs.
Next comes - The final 3.5 year tribulation when Satan will be loosed again
Lastly - The perfect age which lasts for eternity
The change that took place in Eden affected everyone. Otherwise, both creations lived same but Eve and Edam lived in a world that is protected by God and everything was free and ready for them to eat. Those that lived outside of the garden had to look for food like hunters and gathers just like animals. When Even and Edam forced out to the world, they too now have to look for food like hunter and gathers. After some times, both creations begin to settle.
However, before the disobedience (Sin), both creation experience God: even and Edam saw God face to face while the other creation fell and experience God in strange ways. They could also interact with angles. As soon as the disobedience begin, heaven separated from earth which is where Eve and Edam became part of the second world.
The separation was also experienced by the bigger world as soon as eve and edam sinned. They could feel that heaven separated from them and went away. They could no longer experience God in full presence and hey could not see the angles again.
The bigger world did not know at all what is sin about. However, evil begin to spread to them as well and wars begin over land between the tribes and clans. But Eve and Edam begin to communicated with God through to their generations. They begin to inter-marriage with the first set of creation and teach them about God and God's laws. This is where the first set of creation learn about God.
In place where inter-marriage was not possible between God's people and the other people, may still live the same life. Some people in Amazon and some people in Pacific especially Papua New Guinea (PNG) are classic examples.
Missionaries clearly experience the difference between the first set of creation in those areas (Amazon and PNG). They still lived a primitive life interacting with nature-they are not advanced like the Israelites.
The flood took place only in Israel to punish those that bound to follow the law and word of God, rest was not affected.
Going in another direction. I am reading 1st Peter 3 and I have a questions regarding verses 20-21. Specifically, I understand that the flood and the 8 men that were saved from the flood represented water baptism, but I do not completely understand the passage of: "baptism doth also save us...but the answer of a good conscience toward God...". Can you explain this section of verse 21.
There are some mistake from the beginning of the message posted where it needs careful look.
This is where the mistake is "though God refers to & expands on only"
This could also be another mistake " His second creation of Adam & Eve & their descendants through Noah, to us."
The term "US" or "through to US" require a lot of explanation. Bringing yourself to them.
You need to find out more about Noah's flood. Is it only in Israel or covers entire world?
What are the words that I must write on the door posts and gate(s) of my house? Is it the Ten Commandments ? Thank you.
I guess I just wanted to write you my opinion. As you have your beliefs on this and that's fine of coarse. I believe animals do have a soul but not a spirit as Ricky stated. If animals didn't have souls they would be like robots with no personalities. As of coarse something like a fish is so small and simple you really can't tell one from another. Although as with dogs, cats, birds, horses, etc you can very much tell that there is differences in personalities one to another. They are alive naturally from God. They see, hear, smell, eat, drink, and make decisions.
God Bless you my brothers and sisters.
Words: Fanny Crosby, 1887
"Though your sins be as scarlet,
They shall be as white as snow;
Though your sins be as scarlet,
They shall be as white as snow;
Though they be red like crimson,
They shall be as wool!"
"Though your sins be as scarlet,
Though your sins be as scarlet,
They shall be as white as snow,
They shall be as white as snow."
Lord, my sins they are many, like the sands of the sea,
But Thy blood, O my Savior, is sufficient for me;
For Thy promise is written, in bright letters that glow,
"Though your sins be as scarlet, I will make them like snow."
IS MY NAME WRITTEN THERE? (hymn title)
"in the Lamb's book of life." Revelation 21:27
Mary A. Kidder, 1876.
Blessings!
We have search the scripture thinking that in them we have eternal life ( John 5: 39) but we did not understand, see and know God and God's ways.
It does not Matter if anyone worship on Sabbath or Sunday, but if one can faithfully follow the laws and words of God in the Bible can control himself to be right with God and later when dead can have eternal life. He or she will keep every days (1 to 7) holy and be right with God. This will be the true meaning of Sabbath and the Commandment and Sunday.
Jesus Paid it All
1) I hear the Savior say, "Thy strength indeed is small;
Child of weakness, watch and pray, Find in Me thine all in all."
Refrain: Jesus paid it all, All to Him I owe; Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow.