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My point refers to : "The Bible is very clear about salvation being conditional upon using the correct names". This has raised my interest (apart from what the spelling should be from the original languages). Are you saying, that if the incorrect name is used, then salvation is denied? Any Scriptures to back this up? Thank you.
Yes I agree the name Jew never existed until at least 400 years ago.
Just like Yahuah, who name his son, with his own name Yahusha, he also name his chosen people after himself, they are called Yahudim.
Yahuah also name the land where they lived after his own name Yahudah. Not Judah.
Matthew is also wrong, as Yahuah also name him with his own name within his correct name - Mattithyahu.
You are only reading the name Jesus because that's what Christian Bible all say.
No the New Testament was not written in Greek it was translated from Hebrew into Greek and it was this translation where they CHANGED Yahusha to IESOUS then more recently changed IESOUS to Jesus.
Yeshua is also incorrect, so no I am not of "this Yeshua group" as you put it.
You have taken Titus 1:14 out of context so I want bother with that.
Do you really think that your Jesus really spoke to the Hebrews in Greek? REALY!
Anyway Yahuah only loves those who call upon his name and the name of his son Yahusha.
Prov 8:17 I love those who love me.
How do you see your position in the world & before God, given the belief that sin no longer exists? Is there a life after death awaiting you, or do you adopt the atheistic position of 'to the dust we return & that's the end of it all? I'm sure you've given much thought to these questions as you would need to personally substantiate your 'new' understanding of the Scriptures, or else your mind would never rest.
They don't! Our culture doesn't require it. They caution about waivers to the spouses property & cash in case of a divorce.
Did Jesus go all technical and legalistic with the woman at the well? What is the HEART of the Law?
In addition to pain, suffering, loss of material things, financial things, children, loss of home, etc.
Add to this a ton of guilt to carry the rest of your limited human life; because you didn't know Gods laws? ...amazing grace.
the psalm writer teaches us how to worship the everlasting, eternal, all-wise and righteous god, who is filled with love and compassion towards his children.
A: Mathew 21:43 Therefore say I (Jesus speaks to Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Lets see was it the Jews who killed Jesus and Christians? The Greeks who spread the orthodox christian faith all over eastern Europe.)
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14 - 16 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
In Mark 15: 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard [it], said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
these Jews did not even understand what Jesus was saying in Hebrew
John 19:13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. so why would this tell you in the Hebrew Gabbatha if it was originally in Hebrew? NO it was in Greek, it was Jews who killed Christians
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Mark 10:8-9 KJV
And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. [9] What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Every binding in marriage is from God. To break what God has merged indeed is going against God's will. The first combination has children indicates that they had become "one flesh" in the eyes of God even though they were not given to marriage. As a result breaking the unity that led to bear children is sinning against God. Saying we were not engaged/not legally married is not an excuse.
Also the new man Leviticus 21:7
Thief on the cross Luke 23:43
Rich man and Lazarus Luke 16:20 through 24
1 Peter 3:9
Mathew 12:40
Your response actually proved my point, but you don't yet realize it.
>As to Jerusalem it's also wrong. It's Yerusalayim.
I thought you would say that and my point in my last comment is that your new word is wrong. The reason is that it's still not in Hebrew or Greek. Hebrew uses the Jewish script and is a different word than what you've written. You can use Google Translate to see for yourself or just research the language. English uses Roman/Latin characters and you're thinking a word is wrong when it isn't then attempting to only partly translate it back to a language while still keeping your own familiar characters. Someone could call what you did there 'false'.
>The letter J was only invented 400 years ago making it impossible for the English name Jesus to be the Hebrew name of the Messiah.
Why would a name in one language ever be the same in another language with a different alphabet? Jesus is the correctly translated name into English. The word Jesus is a different word in each language such as using the Hebrew or Greek alphabet. What you assume is the 'real word' in Roman / Latin characters is still incorrect because you're not using the right alphabet. If you actually want to say/read Jesus's name in the original languages you would actually need to learn to read/write ancient Greek and Hebrew. You can see what it looks like on this site: Link
Yes, I agree that God's forgiveness is paramount here, or else, as the disciples enquired of the Lord, "who then can be saved?" ( Mt 19:25), when enquiring about who could get to Heaven. However, when as Christians we commit a single, maybe isolated sin, we find instantaneous conviction & hopefully take the needed action. I wonder how it would work if one, who knows that an adulterous relationship is about to be entered into, or for that matter, any sin (e.g. a union with someone in something illegal or a lifestyle that is tainted with things which God would frown upon), that the long term effects would be something one would have to live with (or else, break off), & then would he/she have to come daily before the Lord for forgiveness?
I would find that so burdensome & hypocritical, that it could be more than I could bear. And to state, & I believe if I give some opinion/determination on some matter, then I must needs perform it in my life. If I had to face the awful prospect of an unhappy marriage & divorce, would I then be able to practise what I instruct others from the Word? If this happened in my marriage, yes, I would then need to remain single for the rest of my days but I would also know the Spirit's Help & sustaining through it. How important for believers to weigh up every matter in their lives before the Lord before deciding & pursuing it. It is often better to show restraint, than to 'rush the Hand of God' in something we feel is right & from the Lord. I guess, 'easier said than done'. May He give us more of His Grace.
In man's understanding, Energy can be divided into fourteen types, or more, which includes mechanical, electrical, magnetic, gravitational, nuclear, thermal, sound wave to name a few. If we try to fit God's Being into any of these types, we will always fail, as God is God & is not subject to any limitations or production of energy. One could argue that since He is Light or that when He speaks or moves, then surely energy must be evident & expended. The error here is that all energy that is produced, is dependent on either mass or existence of matter/particles that lead to energy's production. And God does not fulfil any of these requirements, simply because He is Spirit, the Invisible God (to our eyes), & not subject to the laws that are a part of His Creation & to which we mere earthlings are subject to.
Yes I agree the name Jew never existed until at least 400 years ago.
Just like Yahuah, who name his son, with his own name Yahusha, he also name his chosen people after himself, they are called Yahudim.
Yahuah also name the land where they lived after his own name Yahudah. Not Judah.
Matthew is also wrong, as Yahuah also name him with his own name within his correct name - Mattithyahu.
You are only reading the name Jesus because that's what Christian Bible all say.
No the New Testament was not written in Greek it was translated from Hebrew into Greek and it was this translation where they CHANGED Yahusha to IESOUS then more recently changed IESOUS to Jesus.
Yeshua is also incorrect, so no I am not of "this Yeshua group" as you put it.
You have taken Titus 1:14 out of context so I want bother with that.
Do you really think that your Jesus really spoke to the Hebrews in Greek? REALY!
Anyway Yahuah only loves those who call upon his name and the name of his son Yahusha.
Prov 8:17 I love those who love me.
That verse has to be taken in context beginning at Verse 3 and going to Verse 16. It is Paul's instruction concerning widows in the church. There is a lot of information in these verses, and we would take those verses in context to understand Verse 12.
Verse 12 says "Having damnation, literally judgment, because they have cast off their first faith. In context, I think what Paul is saying in this chapter is that all people, husbands and wives, they are stuck in a situation where they must either please the wife, please the husband, or please the Lord. It's like what if we know what the Lord wants us to do, but we can't because the other person says "If you do that, I'll throw this lamp and hit you over the head with it!" What do you do?
As far as carnal goes, do you know that a believer can be carnal and it be perfectly normal? There is a normal carnal, and an abnormal carnal that can be applied to a believer in Christ. And since I don't believe salvation can be lost, I would have to say no to your question of them losing their salvation.
I don't know where you got your information from but it's not correct.
If you read a bible for yourself then you may start to gain some insight, knowledge and understanding?
The Bible is very clear about salvation being conditional upon using the correct names.
The KJV doesn't ever tell you "the Lords" name?
No his name is not "the Lord" nor is it "God"
If you bother to read a bible then you will see for yourself that we are commanded to call upon His name. "Yahuah"
As to Jerusalem it's also wrong.
It's Yerusalayim.
Once again;
Acts 4:10-12
10then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the NAME of Yahusha
of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom Yahuah raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
11Yahusha is the stone you builders rejected,which has become the cornerstone.'
12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is NO OTHER NAME under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."
The letter J was only invented 400 years ago making it impossible for the English name Jesus to be the Hebrew name of the Messiah.
Christian Bibles use the false name Jesus Christ.
Acts 4:10-12
10then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the NAME of Yahusha
of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom Yahuah raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.
11Yahusha is the stone you builders rejected,which has become the cornerstone.'
12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is NO OTHER NAME under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."
The letter J was only invented 400 years ago making it impossible for the English name Jesus to be the Hebrew name of the Messiah.
Christian Bibles use the false name Jesus Christ.
If you don't get it, that's ok.
Yahuah only wants those who call upon His name-Yahuah and His sons name Yahusha.
1 Peter 3:21 is not referring to water baptism. Peter is quick to tell us that he's not talking about water baptism. Peter says (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God). Your conscience is clear, and you're living as He would have you to do. And then it says by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. More literally, it is through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
That gives us the key because it says whereunto even baptism now saves us through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. So he's talking about Spirit baptism. It's the only one in the bible that says it is necessary for salvation.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:13 says for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, bond or free, and we have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
When John the Baptist introduced Jesus as Messiah to Israel, he said that the Messiah's ministry would be the baptism of Spirit and fire.
Remember, baptism denotes two things, 1) Cleansing. If you are Spirit baptized, that is, when Christ comes into your spirit at salvation, your spirit is purified, cleansed of your sin. 2) Identification. It was more so in Paul's day than in ours. Whatever group you're going into, you get baptized. It shows that you're joining the group. But especially for Hebrew and Jewish people in Jerusalem that surrendered their life to Christ as their Messiah and Savior, they get baptized right there in Jerusalem, right in front of all the other Hebrew and Jewish people to show their identification.
If you are asking me if you should be water baptized, I would ask what is the Lord leading you to do. That would be the answer!
One could argue that the word 'Yahusha' is actually false, because you're attempting to use an incompletely translated name using English characters. If you spoke Hebrew you would speak and write that word differently, and not just any Hebrew, but it would have to be old, ancient Hebrew. Also, since the New Testament is in Greek, to be precise you would need to learn the exact Greek dialect at the time of Jesus in order to pronounce and write Jesus's name properly. Otherwise it's 'false teaching'? The point is that it's normal for each language to have the words translated. It would be a logical fallacy to assume that because J in English wasn't made until later that the city of Jerusalem doesn't exist, for example, or that it's not called Jerusalem. Should we be upset that the United States of America is also translated into each language too, like in Hebrew- so are they lying by calling us that in their own language? Just challenging the assumptions about language. Jesus is the name in English.
When I read Silvia's post and see her opening statement, I don't see where she is referring to all churches, unless you think the phrase "The church" is referring to denominational church organizations. When I see the phrase the church, I think of the body of Christ in general. I kind of agree with what she is saying. These things are in the body of Christ today. The sad part is that we in the body of Christ let it happen.
These things are in our churches, and many pastors are afraid to do anything about it because they can be sued for removing someone from their church because our churches have been made public. The early church was private. They met in homes. And they wouldn't even open the door and let you in if you didn't have the proper testimony. That's the way I wish the church was today. So if there is evil in the "church," and someone is removed, which they should be removed according to the bible, that person can turn around and sue that church. And in today's society, they would win that lawsuit.
It's nice to see you here reading and sharing your thoughts with other believers. On that note, I spent most of my morning a few days ago responding to the several questions you had specifically for me, and in turn, I suggested that you might be fair in answering those I sent to you. Please, if you have the time, can you answer those questions I sent to you. If you didn't get them, I can re-send.