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I am not happy with how some portray Ruth as prostituting herself for food. that's so unfair. Before putting her down why don't we try reading Deuteronomy 25:5----. Read and learn facts.

Arissa, I didn't realize that your comments came in three parts. Just a further comment on 'Scapegoat' in reference to Jesus. Again, with the meaning of Scapegoat, I can understand your application to our Lord, for indeed our Sins were placed upon Him at the Cross, but the whole idea of scapegoat (in particular reference to sin bearing, in the OT), was that one goat was the sacrifice for the sins of the people & the second goat had their sins transferred onto its head & then that goat was set free to run into the field or forest, never to return or to be retrieved back into the flock ( Lev 16:5-22).

In the case of Jesus' Sacrifice, the Lamb of the OT is a foreshadow of what Jesus was appointed by His Father to accomplish. That is, instead of the priests sacrificing a spotless lamb from the flock to give temporal covering for sin, God provided His Lamb, pure & sinless, from (within) Himself (His Word) to fully pay for & redeem sinners forever: and this Sacrifice was the only One acceptable for full payment. So again, I wouldn't see Jesus' Sacrifice as Him being our Scapegoat in its full & logical sense, rather our Sacrifice.

DWL, I understand that verse to mean that YOU are that someone! Why you (and me)? Because we are the overcomers in our Christian walk on Earth & all that God has prepared for those who have loved & served Him faithfully are beyond the scope of our imagination & knowledge ( 1 Cor 2:9). And the opposite of those who inherit all things, are described in the following verse (21:8): and these inherit only what is store for them in the Lake of Fire.

John, that portion in Matthew 24 was Jesus' teaching to His disciples about the Tribulation & His Second Coming. I fully realize that many Christians attribute some of these portions of Jesus' teaching on His Second Coming, to the Church's preparedness for Anti-Christ, Great Tribulation & Rapture. However, I stand stoically on these portions, that the Lord actually described aspects of the Tribulation, & has nothing to do with the Rapture of the Church. The Rapture = Snatching Away, of believers was what was revealed to the apostle Paul (1 Thes 4:13-18; 5:1-11): refers to Christ's coming to snatch away His Church before the Great Tribulation comes upon the unbelieving world.

So, looking at Mt 24:20, I understand that Jesus was referring to the Jews at the time of Anti-Christ & the Great Tribulation, that they were to flee as fast as they could to hide from the desolation that was to take place. So the prayer that their flight (fleeing) would not be in Winter on a Sabbath day, was simply because of the harsh conditions of Winter & the legal requirements prohibiting travel, work & effort on the Sabbath for the Jews. So, rest assured that you won't need to be concerned about your flight into the hills, but the other imploring messages by the apostles, that our flight into the air to meet the Lord, will be certain because of our real & precious faith.

Arissa, that was an interesting read & also about those who hide "behind the mark of Cain".

Just the matter of "scapegoat": as you know the meaning of that word is "a person (or, group) made to bear the blame for others or to suffer in their place". I can see how you interpret it this way, but I question whether Jacob was made a scapegoat & still enjoyed peace. I would not connect the meaning of Scapegoat to the situation described here. I don't think Jacob was a scapegoat: he did wrong in stealing his brother's blessing & therefore was advised by his mother to 'make a run for it', but Esau himself did foolishly, in selling his birthright for a some pottage in the first place. I don't see that either of these brothers were guiltless & so there was no transference of sin onto another. As well, Esau didn't do too badly himself, as he married & raised a large family & army & of course settled in Edom, becoming the father of the Edomites. Of course, all this was in fulfilment of God's Word to Rebekah in Gen 25:23.

Gen 4:15: "...therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him". We don't know what type of mark this was, but most likely, "the LORD marked out Cain...", i.e. set Cain aside for Divine protection from his enemies, just as believers have been marked out with the indwelling Holy Spirit & His Seal upon them. So if any of these people you mentioned (KKK, Freemasons, Nazis, etc.) hide behind Cain's mark, that is of private interpretation, but it is certain, as you say, that all of these do hide behind the cloak of Christianity, & in so doing, not only bring the Name of Jesus into discredit & disgrace, but deceive our govts. & nominal Christians alike of their relevance & position in society. They (as we ourselves), have to stand before our Great Judge.

Thank you for your thought-provoking Comment.

Modern day Jews weren't around when the bible was written so I'm unable to give a reference in scripture to modern day Jews. The bible does refer to a specific race of people that God chose to be His people. These are Jews. They are His chosen people, and they are also called His elect. I take it you don't agree with that?

From what I understand, God made a promise to His people in the Old Testament. The Jews are a protected race of people. They will never be eliminated because they are under God's protection. When Jesus comes at His second coming, every Jew alive will be saved.

I do agree with you that claiming to be a Jew or Christian does not make it true. That's seems pretty elementary. And I do know about the Jews having a synagogue in Smyrna, but they were not believers.

What I don't agree with is that ALL Jews deny Jesus. That simply is not true! If that's what you truly believe, then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. And also, if they believed in Jesus, it still wouldn't make them a Christian. Unless a person has been born of God's Spirit, that person has an illegitimate claim at being a child of God, whether they be Jew or Gentile. Also, which synagogue should one call to ask if ALL Jews deny Jesus? My guess is that any Jew, Orthodox or Messianic, would tell you that there are some Jews who do not deny Jesus.

Hi Mishael as far as why bad things happen to good people:There are no good people.There are people who do good things.In Mark10:17&18,when the man came running to Him,knelt before Him and asked Him,GOOD TEACHER what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? JESUS said to him Why do you call me good?NO one is good but One,that is GOD.So you see in order to be good you have to be good twenty four hours a day. See we can,t do that,only GOD can do that.But let,s try.

Jesus was born to Jewish parents! He was raised Jewish! How are you going to reconcile that fact?

Also take a look at Matthew 13:57 - Jesus had the same problem with his family not respecting him.

June, I am sorrowful for the pain that you feel. People who race onward and do not carefully read each word on the creation of Adam and Eve, will miss out on the greater revelation.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord formed (mould) man of the DUST of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man (woman also later), became a living soul.

Genesis 1:27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him: male and female.

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have DOMINION over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

God DID NOT give Adam dominion over OTHER men or women!!!!

Just like everyone else that has lived prior and now, our color came from the same soil.

Genesis 11:1-9 is the account of the Tower of Babel; which was for evil by Nimrod. God changed the language of the people from one to many. The Lord scattered them all over the earth. Nothing is said further about races or colors. It happened back in the soil God used. Adams name in original text means, RED. That doesn't mean Adam was Native American.

You have full cause to be at peace with the color your ancestors were. Who knows what color Moses was, but he married a woman from Midian, which was predominantly dark skinned. His sister made a protest about it and God afflicted her with leprosy for a while. Keep reading, it's all true.

Before God the creator, no one has ever had a right to persecute people of color. If they were reading the Bible rightly, they would know that; in their hearts.

Satan has used his WILL to enter in and pervert the truth. People bought into it and it's been this color versus that color ever since.

God is Spirit. The Holy Spirit is Spirit. Jesus is the Son of Man. (He has color)

Believe the Bible, pass it forward. I thank God we're not all the same color! :D

j

could someone tell more about John15:1

Now that would make a great T-Shirt!

The Holy Spirit is our Teacher. He's the revealer of scripture to our hearts and minds. He will not give 'meat' to a lambs (baby Christians.)

Have you heard the words of the sword and the spirit? The Holy Spirit teaches us how to defeat Satan & his demons, in the spirit realm. Must have the armor of God on, to do spiritual warfare. Also, prayer and fasting: Daniel 10:2-3

How many of you know well that it is harder to fight an invisible enemy? That's why we build ourselves up on the Word of God.

Excellent Jesse. It warms my heart.

IF a Jew believes in Jesus he ceases to be a Jew and becomes a Christian.

Is Yeshua really Lucifer?

The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Doctor David Stern writes: Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.

The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.

In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?

Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully

Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)

11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)

with the music of your lyres,

under you a mattress of maggots,

over you a blanket of worms.'

(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)

12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,

MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?

How did you come to be cut to the ground,

conqueror of nations?

13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,

I will raise my throne above God's stars.

I will sit on the Mount of Assembly

far away in the north.

14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,

I will make myself like the Most High.'

So who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR.

Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua

Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR.

Did you catch it Jesus is Yeshua the MORNING STAR in

Thank you for reply on Luke 3, May God Bless You Always Praise God.

Bob,

Does not the Bible refer to the Jews as God's chosen people, and His elect. Where can I find that ALL Jews are antichrist? God made a promise to the nation Israel (Jews). If they are all antichrist, wouldn't that negate the promise? You have recommended calling a synagogue for answers. If I were to call a synagogue, should I ask to speak to an Orthodox Jew, or a Messianic Jew?

Thank you both for replying on Luke 3, God Bless You always.

Adam and Eve had 3 sons

My Heart has heard you say, "Come and talk wirh me." And my Heart responds, Lord, l am coming."

Psalm 27:8

How many times have you found a quiet place when you felt the Lord wanted you near?

He will bring you Love from above when you are Lonely- scared- hurting inside for someone that is near you, dying.

The Lord wants you to know He is the closest to you when you need help. He is a family you don't have- If you are alone. He is a Strength when you are weak. His creations grow In front of you. The warming of the sun lights up your whole body as He is close to you. The calmness you feel cannot be put in words. He Loves each one with a warmth that leaves you so calm that you feel like you will melt. He will hold you as you talk to Him. You will feel his Love running through you. I have been through this many years with Him. I know if you let yourself become one with Him- there will be nothing you can't ask of Him. And in His time will bring unto you. Thank you Lord-- l Praise your Holy Name. Thank you for Helping me today. I needed you- and you showed up: l can now walk with your Love to Strengthen me. Amen...

I don't think they're very toxic... Not saying they aren't but.. Maybe they're troubled inside. I pray that you find the answers to this. And I sure do pray that you find resolution to such an issue. In times like any.. Be sure to remain thankful to God as Job did. He will surely reward you.

In heaven there is neither male nore female ! They are spiritual beings not flesh ! God spoke everything into existence so we're do you get you nolage ?

Esau sold his birthright for a bowl of soup. God could not tolerate that.

Satan tempted Eve with food too.

I know this is true and I believe every word it even hold true with today and the time we are in I was scared at first then I remembered I have God there is no reason to be afraid he loves his people and I'm so happy to know he loves me by my name

Read the genealogies in Genesis and other books. Only the sons are named; not the daughters.

Jews of every country where their family fled to are moving back to Israel. Have been a couple of years. Lots of them are returning as Christians.

They are sharing their faith in Jesus their Messiah. Do you ever watch 700 Club news?

They are happy, excited, spirit filled.

Please show me where it is okay for US to damn anyone to hell??

We're suppose to make them desirous of the love of Jesus, because of the love we have for the brethren. What is to envy if they get spit on, yelled at, threatened with death and burned down churches!?

I didn't get to go to college like you and Chris. I use study helps, but it takes time to do the research, for me. I've been in the "college" of the HOLY SPIRIT for 35 years. I'm grateful for it too. I learn things useful to teach the lost, the backsliders, the clueless. People respond to Love. Like I've said before; if God can't find a disciple to send to the lost...He'll use a donkey.

God knows what we need to get and stay saved. He gave me love every time. All my drunken friends left me. I asked for new friends and a huge wave of Christians flooded my life! Street witnessing was a blast. I'd get home exhausted, but I'd stay up and pray for the seed I'd sown. Every single time I needed help and asked, I got what I needed (not wanted).

You can't convince me that God does not have a plan for Jews, Israel, Catholics, or for the whole world. We don't get to condemn them for God. You can wipe the dust off your shoes, but that is it.

I've seen those passages where the Lord promised to deal with them personally. That's His fight. He didn't tell us to "go ye and kick the pants off them ourselves". They will know Him through us, by the love we show the brethren & sisters. God is no respecter of persons. We are to silence from our mouthes: judgment, predjudice and presuppositions. The Holy Spirit has never told me to shout or say WOE to people! Teach the sheep & carry the baby lambs (in prayer). Amen

I know things are hectic this year. But what does it matter that I should pray that my flight not be on the the Sabbath? Is it some how bad if We run for the hills on the Sabbath? I can understand winter. But why Sabbath?

The Bible does not tell us how many. We know of at least three, Cain, Abel, and Seth. Genesis 5:4 tells us that there were many other sons and daughters, but we don't know how many. There were probably quite a few, as they lived a lot longer back then and childbearing years lasted way longer than today.

Mark, if you are still here, I say Amen!

Amen! To T Nelson comment, for our Lord Jesus is our only salvation,trust only in Him,because the enemy is upon the righteous in these last and evil days the children of God are going to be tested.