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How do I feel about James 2:17-26? If we are talking about faith without works is a dead faith, then I totally agree. But to understand what it means, you have to have an understanding of what the bible means by faith. Please give me your definition of faith. You and I cannot produce the faith the bible speaks of. All we can produce is flesh. The faith the bible speaks of is spiritual faith. Only God's Spirit can produce spiritual faith ( Galatians 5:22). The works that come from us come from the persuasion of God's Spirit persuading us to do those things. But it is His work, not ours. He gets all the glory. ( Ephesians 2:8-9).

Again, due to space, I'll answer your other questions on John 14:15, Luke 12:9, and Romans 12:2 next.

The Apostles creed (I believe) is not in the Bible. The Vatican wants us to believe they were responsible for it.

The Greek churches as well as Rome hammered out the Creeds.

Part 3 NICENE CREED:

And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

[ John 15:26, John 16:13, John 14:26]

And I believe one holy catholic (catholic means universal, not Rome)

and apostolic Church.

[ Ephesians 4:5]

I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

[ Acts 19:4, Acts 22:16, 1 Corinthians 12:13, Mark 1:8, John 11:25, 1 Peter 1:3, Revelation 20:6]

What is your point? What are you tring too say? I dont underdtand your questions. Can you simply what your question is?

Therefore, the Saints practiced baptism for the dead that those who died not receiving the ordinance may be saved for God is a Just God.

Paul's teaching of the resurrection tied to the ordinance of baptism is proof the physical act of receiving baptism is a necessity to being saved or you will not rise.

Next, we should discuss authority for the scriptures say, And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Have I read the whole chapter? That doesn't deserve an answer. But let's look at Hebrews 10:26. First of all, the book was written to the Jews, Hebrew people. It was not written to the church. For a Jew or Hebrew person to turn away from Judaism and receive Christ meant severe persecution would follow. "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins." Receiving knowledge of the truth doesn't save a person. Did you ever notice in the gospels that whenever huge crowds would follow Jesus, and He would turn around and preach truth to them, they would leave? They received knowledge/ truth from Christ, but they turned away. "Oh, I'm going to suffer if I surrender to you? I'm out of here!"

Do you see what the writer is telling them? You received the truth about salvation, but if you turn back to Judaism because it is easier than surrendering to Christ because of persecution, there is no more sacrifice for your sin.

Paul makes the necessary ordinance of baptism unto salvation perfectly clear talking about baptism for the dead, saying:

1 Corinthians 15

Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

... you will not rise in the first resurrection unless you are baptized.

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

"... baptized for the remission of sins." I don't know how much clearer this could be said.

But some will say that baptism, the baptism our Lord was baptized by John, has a different meaning because John said, I indeed have baptized you with water: but he (Jesus) shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

So with this passage, the physical baptism that represents being buried with Christ and coming out of the water in a newness of life likened to the resurrection of Christ, no longer is needed. The ordinance of baptism is done away, in other words.

Christ will indeed baptize with the Spirit after we are physically baptized and receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost.

We don't need baptism to be saved, Stan?

That all a part of the works trip religion?

Don't stop reading the Bible, Stan, for Peter says if you rest the scriptures you rest them to your own condemnation.

The more you read, the clearer it becomes. The more you don't read, the less clear it becomes.

Let's look at what the Spirit tells us about baptism in the scriptures:

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

"... even baptism doth now save us." I can't see how much clearer that could be said.

But let's keep going:

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Revelation 20:13 and they were judged every man according to their works.

The you say, Jesus Christ doesn't decide our salvation, we do.

Stan, did you take upon you the sin of the world?

Stan, is it by your grace we are saved?

I believe in Christ only comes salvation and there is no other name given by which man is saved.

We come unto the Father only through Jesus Christ.

Are you sure when we've done all we can do we save ourselves?

Christ said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Where can i find the apostles creed

James 2:18-20 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Revelation 20:12 and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

1 Timothy 6:18-19 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

2 Timothy 3:17

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

You ask me "What is your reason for living life as a Christian or trying to be obedient to Jesus, if it has nothing to do with going to heaven?"

I never said obedience had nothing to do with going to heaven. Where did that come from? I do not "try to be obedient" because that takes human effort. My flesh will never be in obedience to Christ, so why try? I am not obedient to Him because of any human effort on my part. I am obedient to Him because of what His Spirit is doing in my life. Do I choose to be obedient to Christ, or do I choose to be obedient to my flesh? There is a battle that takes place between my flesh and the Spirit of Christ who dwells in me. Which one are you yourself obedient to? Who do you submit to, Christ, or your flesh?

Space running out, more to follow.

Romans 2:6-7, 10

Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

Matthew 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

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how can I lay down my burden on jesus Christ I'm doing all I can to stay off sin I know is not impossible for me to stop. I recently stayed a month plus without . This was the best moment of my life. praying 🙏 and reading the bible. Recently I took a step back to my old ways I can't help it i feel I'm not control anymore the situation is getting worst i really don't want to this anymore

I need jesus Christ back. but I think i'm far away from him now. it was him that helped me throughout this period I need him back pls help pray 🙏 for me I need you guys advise and prayers

Why was Nathan instead of Solomon written as the son of David?

Greetings Adam, I overall agree with your statement that the Lord did not create evil however....

Isaiah 45:7 I (Lord) form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Darkness is absence of light. The Lord created everything good as in Genesis 1: 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

All God created was good, no evil yet Job 38 records the sons of God shouting for joy at the foundation of the earth. So they must be angels since Adam did not exist till 6 days after the earth. Lucifer was in existence and been good.

Ezekiel 28 records the fall of Lucifer

Verse 15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."

Created, not born or formed...

Yes God created Lucifer good who you point out rightfully that he had freewill to fall and he became evil. Since God created all he did evil to

where do we go when we die,IF WE ARE BELIEVERS, I was ask this question. I am a Christion that believes in jesus. do i wait in a grave till Christ comes back...the 7th trump

were can I find the Apostles Creed in he Bible

My answer to your first question is yes, that is my position. If you understand what takes place at the point of salvation, then maybe you'll see why I take that position. Free will? We're allowed to make decisions. But every decision we make is based on what or who we love the most. We either submit to the persuasion of God's Spirit telling us what He wants us to do, or we submit to what our flesh wants to do. Which one do you submit to? You say some "Christians" turn to evil, and denounce Christ, and then you say it is unfortunate? That's not unfortunate, especially since Paul says that division is necessary? Those "self-professing" Christians who turn to evil and denounce Christ were never saved or they wouldn't have left (1 John:2:19). You bring up Judas. Was that unfortunate? No, not at all. Jesus chose an evil man to fulfill His plan.

There is not enough space here to answer all you question, but I will answer in a separate post.

This must be why I'm still alive after comatose for several months

How to know the bible is true

I find it intriguing how we keep on ignoring the fact that God says to all of us " - - I have shown you the end from the beginning" - - Isa 46:9-10, Mat 5:17-18

Mishael in Genesis 1 - in Reply on Genesis 1:1

Thank you for your comment; encouraging

peter

Hi Chris, thanks for your response. I think the OSAS view contradicts itself and contradicts scripture.

The statement "Christians cannot blaspheme" contradicts Christians having freewill. Either Christians have freewill or don't. Some people were Christians then denounced it, like Marilyn Manson, Hitler, among many others. So we have the personal evidence on Earth, and scripture evidence including Matthew 10:33 and many others.

> "But the believer has to be on guard against Satan ( 1 Peter 5:8) & to "work out (attention to) his own salvation with fear & trembling" ( Philippians 2:12). A constant warfare, requiring vigilance, but the believer remains secure in God's Perfect Plan for him."

These verses also contradict the OSAS movement. If a Christian is already saved why would they need to be on guard? What is there to 'work out' if salvation is already decided?

God doesn't create evil, but allows evil, because he allows freewill to choose right or wrong. Satan is allowed to tempt us just as God allowed Job to be tempted and tested. We are all being tested while here on earth.

BTW, Chris I think its risky to call someone foolish or a fool because of Matthew 5:22.

Does ether bible talk about eating shellfish.

His name was Lucius Artorius Castus, which doesn't fit into your six-letter formula.

Rod, I gave the definition of being saved by grace and you replied in a manner saying I'm incorrect. Then you continue by using the apostle Paul's writing which say works are not involved in our salvation.

Clearly, James writings on faith and works contradict Paul's writings on grace.

Therefore, I neither call the apostle James or the apostle Paul liars.

I say it is both.

We are saved by grace after all we can do, says neither James or Paul are liars.

Many mislead others by using Paul to call James a liar.

If you meet James , the apostle of our Lord, when you pass on you can say, I used the apostle Paul to call you, the apostle of our Lord, James, a liar.

When I meet James and Paul, I will call neither a liar because I believe the truth.