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I know what race Jesus was and I read it in my bible I was just making a point I love those of all races and refuse to be called racist thank u very much

Thank you.

comment by Alex on Dan. 2. The head of gold is the written word as Jesus said there in no eternal life in the scriptures per se. My words are spirit and life not paper and ink All the body parts answer to Modern day christianity even Paul says we know in part we prophecy in parts we see in parts etc but when that which is perfect is come that which is done in parts ( THE IMAGE )shall be done away with ya remember th tares the chaff that is cast away, everything became as the chaff of the summer threshing floor the harvest. Evangelists,teachers pastors preachers implies parts God does not wants his kingdom in parts,unless you receive the kingdom as a lil Child etc.Its the MANCHILD which is the H.G. THAT IS GONNA RULE ALL NATIONS. iT WAS THE STONE CUT WITHOUT HANDS THAT RULED ALL THE WORLD.That stone is the living Word of God that is gonna displace all these manmade churches n TV PREACHERS as the MOST HI GOD DOES NOT DWELL IN TEMPLES MADE WITH HANDS. What the law cd not do in that it was WEAK THRU THE FLESH the 10 toes were weak simply b/c of the th flesh, mans carnal mind is not subject to the laws of God and neither indeed can be.Our carnal minds cannot bond with the Law.The iron cd not bond with the clay the flesh our carnal minds etc. Our Adamic nature cannot bond with the spirit of the Law. Note there was not life in this image even tho the head was of Gold, Th bible precious as it is. Eternal life in only in the living Word not the bible ( ONLY BY HIS BLOOD ) If eternal life cd have come via the bible Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness. The image answers to what Paul is saying, When that which is perfect is come that which is done in PARTS the Image in Dan 2 shall be done away with,The image was done away with.

What is the meaning of eunuchs in the bible?

I have a Question of sort could someone explain what Jesus meant when In Matt 8:22 He says Follw me and let the dead bury the Dead.. thanks in advance

God is total love!! he is there for you in these times of stressful days. worse then we ever felt before. everything we had before will come to attack us now because of the evil days we have come into. we are now starting the birth pains as the bible warned us before the second coming of our lord. the battle has started in the heavens above. fight we must. the control is only a start for us. prepare by reading the bible-- and praying as you never prayed before. we have to battle not only for ourselves but for our families, no matter what. do not give up. you have a mighty god who lives for you- and will fight with you. who has the strength of all his creations that surround you. go be with them. walk by them. pray as you never prayed before. love the lord when his light from the brightness of the sun shines into your very heart. talk to him. he will one day come down with all his glory. so magnificent and powerful that it will knock you off your feet.

stay close...fight the evil that tries and get near you. fight i say...fight!!!! but first-- ask your god to stand close in your battle...dont give up....fight harder!!! i know to be true. i fight for others and myself daily. for my dreams of the lord come strong. i have seen my god. after death...believe me when i say.. everything is truth.....

Ann - I respectfully hold a totally different view believing that John, the apostle, is the person referred to - not John Mark. Neither of us is likely to change the others view, but I feel sure we can agree on Jesus Christ as our Savior.

All the references to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" are in the book of John. While the Gospel of John does not specifically identify its author, and "the disciple whom Jesus loved" is nowhere explicitly named in Scripture, early Christians universally recognized John, the apostle, as the author of the Gospel and "the disciple whom Jesus loved." This is consistent with internal evidence in the Gospel of John

John and brother, James were called to be disciples of Christ while they were fishing with their father, Zebedee. They immediately left to become members of Jesus' original group of the twelve.

James, John, and Peter seemed to be the most intimate of Jesus' apostles accompanying Jesus on special occasions. Matthew 17:1 says, ... and led them up a high mountain by themselves. Because of their favored relationship with Jesus, James and John sought special position in what they erroneously assumed to be Jesus earthly kingdom in Mark 10:37-38: "They replied, 'Let one of us sit at your right and the other at your left in your glory.'

James eventually died as a martyr for Christ and John died a natural death after living in exile on the Isle of Patmos.

One of the most reflective statements of the closeness between Jesus and John was in the last moments of Jesus' life when Jesus asked Jesus asked John to care for his mother after His death. John 19:26-27

John, as an apostle of Jesus, not only wrote his eye-witness account of experiences with Christ which were recorded in his gospel, but also wrote the books of 1 John, 2 John, 3 John and the book of Revelation.

Carlos, just to keep my response brief: I fully agree with your interpretation of Acts 2:23, that God foreknew that Christ would be delivered & slain. In fact, I would even say that it was God's Plan since it was part of His complete Redemptive Work. That Esau would serve Jacob, I agree that was God's Plan. That Herod, Pilate & the Gentiles were also part of God's Plan, I concur. Sorry, I can't remember making reference to the '1000 years is as one day'.

So with all that agreement with you (as above), where then is my problem? I think it is essentially in the days of Creation & in the workings of Satan. To restate: Adam & Eve were not created in corruption, rather they were created perfect, had a free will but chose wrongly. Was this in God's Plan? No. Was this in God's Knowledge? Yes. Did their sinning catch God by surprise? No. Did he plan for Satan to be there & entice them? No. Did God know that Satan would do this & succeed? Yes. Did God's future Plan to deal with Satan & corrupted man part of His Plan? Yes. So, what I'm saying here is that God doesn't cause or Plan for people to sin. Why? simply that a Holy God cannot have a part in someone's sin; to sin is the choice of the sinner, not of God. Yet God knew they would sin. Did God cause Satan to test Job's faith in God? No, it was Satan who prompted the test with a caveat from God. Did He cause Satan & the angels who followed him to sin? No, they chose to do so.

So I've given some examples of where we could differ; you could probably give more to learn my response. So, I don't believe He causes anyone to sin because it is in 'His Plan' to do so. Each one is responsible for their own choices. But God knew who would sin, both human & angel alike, & then had His Plan ready for whatever He deemed correct. So, am I saying that a Plan was created after the act? No, God already knows what will happen but not the instigator of a sinful act just to fulfil His Plan. So, I think it is on this point that we differ.

The mystery was revealed throughout the whole Old Testament when God spoke through the prophets of the Gentiles being saved. As a matter of fact Abraham was a Gentile. Gentiles have always been grafted in even under the old covenant from the time of Egypt at the very beginning, to the time of Esther when many converted to following the God fo the Jews, and many other passages. Always been ONE people. Only difference is they had to wait for the new covenant to begin IN THE FULLNESS OF TIME. Abraham was of Syrian descent as he was a close cousin of "Laban the Syrian".

Was not Jesus revealed tot he Jews FIRST thus fulfilling over 300 prophecies? To fulfill 8 prophecies is a mathematical improbability according tot he mathematicians would be like picking the right atom out of the entire universe and when you bump that up to 9 it most likely doubles. We are talking 300 to 330 fulfilled prophecies.



Jews have been being saved and been preached to for 2,000 years. Always ONE people.

In Romans Paul says only a remnant will be saved when he quotes Isaiah and Revelation 11 confirms that only a remnant give glory to God at the time of the 7th trumpet. It doesn't say they got saved but only that they give glory to God. That is who I think will repopulate the planet for the 1,000 year reign of Christ. The modern Sanhedrin are pushing the noah hide laws right now upon all the Gentiles and they are the only people that will be exempt from having to abide by them. They are talmudic laws and not Biblical at all.

If the Bible says to preach to Jerusalem and Judea first, how do you interpret Matthew 21:43?

YOU: Actually, there are various aspects from the Word, which compel me to believe that there will be a removal of His people first before the Anger of the Lord is poured out. Most of these you will be aware of:

ME: Sure your not pre-wrath? Tribulation of Satan which we are promised throughout the gospels and God's wrath on the wicked are two different things.

YOU: a. Genesis 6-8. Noah & his family were saved at a time of God's Wrath upon the wicked.

ME: They were not removed from the earth but protected.

YOU: b. Exodus 7 ff. The children of Israel delivered from Pharaoh after God's judgement against Egypt.

ME: Your sounding pre-wrath rapture to me.

YOU: c. Israel too suffered at times, only because of their disobedience to God, idolatry & many crimes.

ME: They and individuals also suffered for no good reason at all. Joseph suffered slavery and betrayed by brothers but God used it for His glory just one of many examples.Who am I to be better than Polycarp, John's disciple, who was tortured before being burned alive. Or James, or John the Baptist or all of the prophets who served God more than any of us ever will or the apostles who were martyred or John who was boiled but survived. I only wish pre-trib was true. Paul puts the harpazo AFTER the dead in Christ rise whcih is the resurrection and RIGHT WITH the parousia (physical return of the Lord).That word UNTO is very important in that passage. When we leave every word in there and don't add any words the passage is very clear. The word REMAIN means SURVIVE also.Survive what if we are gone? I had a woman tell me that if the pre-trib rapture isn't true than Jesus is a liar and no better than the devil but there are many clear verses that point to it not being true. Doctrine is based on clear verses, not unclear verses.Did you know Dr. Thomas Ice is trying to make the word apostasia a rapture word now? It is always used as ONE DEPARTING FROM THE FAITH. He knows there isn't one clear verse proving what he teaches

Hi Mishael,

Do you know what your name means? I never saw that before. Is it a form of Michael? I hope we can discuss this in a godly manner.

YOU:

The oil for the lamps is the Holy Spirit.

ME:

In this parable, did not ALL the virgins have oil at one time and why are they called virgins? The five foolish virgins had oil but then ran out. Where the five wise virgins had oil but ALSO

Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Mat 25:8 and the foolish said to the prudent, Give us of your oil, because our lamps are going out;

Mat 25:9 and the prudent answered, saying-Lest there may not be sufficient for us and you, go ye rather unto those selling, and buy for yourselves.

Read Colossians 6:13 and 1 Timothy 4:2.

Correct. Jesus is God. Merely was clothed in flesh; hence the phrase, GOD INCARNATE (God in the flesh). Color and race mean nothing to God. Joseph married an Egyptian and had two half-breed children Manasseh and Ephraim. The children of Israel came out of Egypt a mixed people from the very beginning.

There has always only been ONE people of God. This is exactly why I left pre-trib rapture teaching. It teaches more than one gospel, more than ONE way to be saved, and more than ONE people.

Yet the Bible teaches, there is ONE people of God in both the Old and New Testament.

One faith.

One Lord.

One baptism.

What's interesting is there is more Jewish blood in Palestine proven with TWO different DNA testings by two different scientists of Jewish descent yet the pre-tribbers are unaware of so many things and so many have hatred in their hearts for these people which is murder. I can't be a part of that body of Christ as it is cancerous.

Chris, It is true that God knows things. He is Omniscient. But God is not a reactionary God. That is, He does not sees or know that something is going to happen and then reacts to that event. He does not see man is going to sin, so He provides a Savior. The Bible gives us an image of a God that is active in His creation. He Plans, then acts. To limit God to merely responding to what He perceives is going to happen, limits His ability to act. He is not a passive observer of history. He is involved and He is engaged with us in daily and constant prayer.

When you say, "I see that God's Foreknowledge determined His Plan to accomplish His Purposes," are you saying, "He knows what is going to happen in the Future and He acts on that"? Or "Based on His knowledge and understanding, He determines what He is going to do and how to accomplish it"? Examples: 1. I know what an engine looks like, so I will build one. 2. Based on my knowledge of mechanics, I will design an engine. The first robs God of all creativity, since He is only copying what He sees. I believe the latter is more Biblical, because God is in control. But if we think of God's Foreknowledge as a reaction to what He knows will happen in the Future, based on His omniscience, we make Him a prisoner of the Future.

The perception that the Future exists as an observable or knowable entity is flawed. We can't travel into the Future, because it doesn't exist. And if it did, we wouldn't be able to change it. The same is true for the Past. If there were such a thing as the Future, it would be set. That is, what the Future is, it is. Not even God could change it. Think about it. The perception of some is that God, in a sense, is reading in a book everything that's going to happen and that's how He knows the future. He didn't Plan the coming of Christ, He simply knew that was what was going to happen. But that is not what the Bible says. The Bible tells us God is in Control of creation, History and the future.

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But where my problem lies, is from one of our earlier discussions on: 'God's whole plan for Creation was to have Christ come into His Creation as a Man, to redeem man from his corruption' (or words to that effect). To me, that sounds like God's creation of man was unnecessary except to be the 'vehicle' for Christ's physical embodiment to lay down His Life. I disputed that, even to this time I find no need for God to even create man, if it was only for Christ's Sacrificial purposes. Why create man in the first place, I think was my original question? I believe you referred to God's Planning in your answer: that it was in God's original design that man would be born into corruption, hence the Plan for Christ's appearance. It is this issue that I stumbled on (as well as God's Planning vs His Foreknowledge).

Again, I agree that Christ's coming was in God's original Design to rescue fallen man, but to just create man for no other reason except for Christ's humanity, I find my mind unable to grasp such a thought. And at that time, we had discussed the purposes of man's creation. I had said that it was for God's Pleasure (He saw that ALL of His Creation was good/very good) & that His creation (man) had the privilege of living amongst all of God's Creation & enjoying a pure & holy relationship with his Maker: even as His other Creation (angels) are now enjoying. Another answer to this question, I don't have, as I'm not privy to it, but to believe man's creation was just for the entrance of Christ, is strange. To all this you did disagree, & I accept that since it is not specified as such, just my supposition from the tenor of relevant Scripture.

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Carlos, your comment (May 13th) is not posted in this section even though I'm directed to it. So I'll respond anyway, reading if off my email.

I do agree with you on all of your points, i.e. Christ was given a body as man's; all the relevant Scriptures point to this event (Abel's offering & Abraham's offering of Isaac, & many others that signify the need for Christ to ultimately make payment for sins, for which animal sacrifices could not). I agree as well to, "is it fair to conclude that both the Shadow and the object that casts that Shadow, Christ, were for Christ to enter the world as the True Sacrificial Lamb?" Yes, this is the correct conclusion.

You quote Isa 40:3. I wish I could find my reference to that as it's not in the referenced thread. I think some of my pages sent to you & probably others from you have been clipped. I had sent four pages recently, but only one (the fourth page: the two trees) appears. I just don't recall using Isa 40:3 at this juncture. So, in truth, you have expressed yourself very clearly & I've had no difficulty in understanding your points & I find myself in complete agreement with them in your post. (onto page 2)

Chris, I question that God just lets us go about our business without interfering. You say God created us and left us alone? But the Bible says otherwise. In Dan 11:29, the Angel tells Daniel that "at the Appointed Time" something will happen. That is a recurring theme throughout the Bible. Christ came at the Appointed Time. He will return at the Appointed Time. What does it mean to "appoint" something? Clearly, it is God who appoints. It is God who "Schedules". It is God who Plans and Determines the course of history. Isa 41:4, "Who has accomplished this? Who has determined the course of history from the beginning? I, the LORD, was there first, and I will be there to the end." (God's Word Translation). Isa 46:10, "I distinguish the end from the beginning, and ancient times from what is still to come...'My purpose will be established, and I will accomplish all My good pleasure.'

In Gen 18:14, Abraham is asked, "Is anything too difficult for the LORD? At the Appointed Time I will return to you-in about a year-and Sarah will have a son." Was Sarah having a baby something God knew about the Future or something He deliberately Planned and caused to happen? Did God just want Sarah to have a baby, or was there a Purpose behind it? Did God Plan the birth of Isaac with a Purpose?

We can say that God knows what is in the heart of man, but how does He know it? See John 2:25, "But Jesus did not entrust Himself to them, for He knew all men. He did not need any testimony about man, for He knew what was in a man."

Let me interject, that while I have an opinion based on what is available, given my experience and studies, this is what I have concluded. But the fact is, I don't know. I could be wrong. You might be right. But this is how I see it.

Paul speaks of God's Pre-destination of our adoption, of being conformed to His image. Eph 1:11,'My purpose will be established, and I will accomplish all My good pleasure'. God is not just involved, He determines.

BRENDLYN:

Genesis 35:10. And God said unto him, Thy name shall not be called ANYMORE Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and He called his name Israel.

You'll want to read all of that about the inheritance.

CARLOS:

God (The LET US) existed before Creation. He's the Alpha and the Omega.

Original language in Genesis, says: in Beginning. Not in the beginning.

He created TIME first. Everything on earth and in the universe, was going to be regulated on time and seasons.

Everything scientist seek to explain: Time, Force. Action, Matter; is explained in Genesis 1:1. One verse. What a mighty God we serve.

Yes he sees mankind all through history (HIS STORY). But he gave us free will.

After Satan was thrown to earth by Michael the Archangel, he was here also with his will. I call him the I will I will I will mess up Gods plans. There's a scripture that says God is at work within our will to help us align our will with His , for our life. I need a lot of that, so I ask for it.

So you can see that we are the owner operators of our will. Yes God sees what we may choose. If we're completely closed off to the Holy Spirit, we make huge mistakes at times. Sometimes we miss out on Gods best for us because we are frequently boneheads about choices. We spend the rest of our lives lamenting that we wish we had not chosen that disaster.

I absolutely love God for that. He had my devotion at hello, Yom Kippur 1985. I had this vision one time of flying with the clouds, and I'd inhale this air that was so Good. Couldn't inhale enough. The air of heaven is faith. We have so much to look forward to. All the Lord needs is a open heart that wants to be filled with love. God is Love.

He's not mean. His judgments are righteous. Instead of cross judging Him. We should wonder why? He will show us the answer. If we skim like ice skaters through the Bible, we miss important thought.

We often close our eyes to things we don't want to see. If we miss the mark.. it's sin.

That's why Jesus was willing to pay full price. It was decided before Time started ticking on earth. Open your hearts, not your minds.

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d. The use of the word "Mystery". Whenever used in the Bible, it denoted something now revealed that wasn't known before, whether fully or partially. E.g. Rom 11:25 (Gentiles would be saved, hence Israel's blindness); Eph 1:9 (Jew & Gentiles would be one in Christ); Eph 3:3 (Gentiles would be fellow-heirs, partaking in the same promise); Eph 5:32 (Christ & His Church alluded to a husband/wife relationship); Col 1:26,27 (Christ indwelling Gentiles); 2 Thes 2:7 (a type of wickedness not seen or imagined before which will be evident in the Anti-Christ); and to the Rapture: 1 Cor 15:51 which is Paul's message to the Corinthians as was to the Thessalonians: that this Mystery, that was not revealed before (whether by Prophecy or by Jesus), is now revealed to the Church. And this was not just a prelude to the Second Coming of Christ, but an indication that as before, in olden times, God would spare His people (now the Church & not the Jew), from His Great Anger that would come to all unbelievers.

e. 1 Thes 5:9. Paul speaking about the sudden appearing of the Day of the Lord urges the believers not to be slothful but to await that Day. Why? Because "God has not appointed us to wrath (His Wrath upon the World), but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ". And this 'salvation' I understand is the saving of His Church from the Wrath of God.

P.S. I'll have a look at your YT channel. Thank you.

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Hi Bob, I can understand how the word 'Rapture' can be used as a verb, but it is also quite rightly used as a noun, to describe an event that is yet to take place. Now, the problem: Is this event (Rapture) a separate 'snatching away of believers prior to the outpouring of Gods Wrath' or is it a part of Christ's Second Coming for His millennial reign, implying that believers will go through the Great Tribulation, but will be kept "from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." ( Rev 3:10)?

I understand the Gk. word "Parousia" to mean 'Presence or a Presence after an Absence, an Arrival'. So this certainly allows for 'a literal physical coming of Christ to set up His Kingdom', but I see that it can also speak of His Coming for His saints specifically. Actually, there are various aspects from the Word, which compel me to believe that there will be a removal of His people first before the Anger of the Lord is poured out. Most of these you will be aware of:

a. Gen 6-8. Noah & his family were saved at a time of God's Wrath upon the wicked.

b. Ex 7 ff. The children of Israel delivered from Pharaoh after God's judgement against Egypt.

c. Israel too suffered at times, only because of their disobedience to God, idolatry & many crimes.

Re " thou and thy seed"

We are created in the image of God, and HIS WORD IS HIS SEED.....SO OUR WORD CAN BE OUR SEED as well as our

offspring....so to speak God's Word gives us power...." we haven't been given a spirit of fear, but of power and love and a sound mind".... 2Tim 1:7...and every seed reproduces after its own kind....and the Word speaks volumes about our lips, tongue, mouth ,...etc

What was Virgin Mary's seed....I think it was the words of her mouth

" Be it unto me according to thy word".....which is summarized when we agree with God's Word by saying..." AMEN"

Our seed can be interpreted 2ways....depending on context

In Hebrews Chapter 11 is all about Christian martyrs in the Bible.

Right now, Christian missionaries are being slaughtered in the Middle East, Communist China and other places. Pray for God to confuse and bewilder their enemies; to make them turn on themselves. Let's remember them before we dine.

Thanks Bob. A wonderful collecting of scriptures. Maybe everybody wants to feel that good.

People do get targeted for their color in this culture. There's a lot of anger there. We are called to be mediators. In the 'family business' of reconciliation.

Appears that maybe Moses took some lip for marrying someone the sister rejected because of the color.

As Christians we have to be color blind. You can't pick and choose whom the Lord might say, "go talk to that one". We get crowns at Bema Seat. Jesus said EVERYONE is welcome. We just say, Yes Sir!

The first will be last, and the last, first.

In Matthew 9 vs 20-21 - The woman with the issue of blood. IN that time she was deemed unclean. By touching Jesus in an act of faith, desperate for healing is it safe to say that by touching Jesus she made Jesus unclean? Not unclean in the sense of physical Uncleaness or spiritual but in the sense that he took het uncleaness. Matthew 8 say he took our informities and bore our sicknesses

Delanie, You & your family share a very great burden. To be wrongfully accused & imprisoned is certainly unfair. I would like to share these thoughts with you. The Apostle Paul was called by God to preach the gospel to the Gentiles. However, he spent much of his time in prison. He could have wondered why was God allowing this & how could he fulfill his purpose when he was locked up? Yet because of his being in prison his message reached kings & nobles & high ranking military men not to mention the letters he wrote to the churches that make up most of our New Testament, today (& his message continues to reach souls even to this very day). Joseph was sold into slavery by his own brothers & then Potipher's wife lied about him & he was imprisoned. He had valid reasons to lose faith & become discouraged, but he kept his faith in God & kept a positive attitude & after many years of his trials, God used him mightily to save Israel. David was anointed to be King by Samuel but had to endure many long years of running for his life from Saul while God was preparing David to become the warrior king of Israel & subdue their enemies. God knows if your family member has been wrongfully sentenced. God will be with your family member thru the entire 6 years or bring them out sooner, if he wills it. Lift up prayers to God for your family member & trust the process. Pray that your loved one will keep the faith & use this time to grow closer to God. Ask other Christians to pray for your family member. Yes, seek any means available to procure an early release, but I pray that your family member will grow where God has allowed them to be planted. Grow in Grace! Vickie

The psalmist express how venerable we're really are as human beings. He also describes our sinful nature and how we can't move forward w/o God's grace and mercy. I really see myself in the psalm because I need God's grace in my life. We're saved by His grace.

They raped her, it appears that she was dead at the door. If you read on, God sent punishment upon that part of the nation, judgement came to them. It wasnt about her sin, but theirs.

You know not what you speak. The scriptures don't care about mans thoughts towards the word of God. Nothing was exaggerated. Goliath was a giant. Your lack of faith will only hurt you in the end