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The Bible literally refers to God as Godhead, so the few who are uncomfortable with that term can simply use the word Godhead instead. There's a mountain of scriptures showing the dynamic and divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We're here to defend Jesus Christ and anyone trying to discredit or smear His divinity. We should all pray for wisdom, understanding and truth as we read the scriptures so that we are not mislead by the enemy and buy into things that merely fulfill our itching ears.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

Matthew 1:23-25

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

Advocate - 1 John 2:1

Alive for Evermore - Rev 1:18

All Knowing Psalm 139:1-6

All, and in All - Colossians 3:11

Almighty - Revelation 1:8

Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8

Altar - Hebrews 13:10

Altogether Lovely - Song of Solomon 5:16

Amen - Revelation 3:14

Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:13 & Daniel 7:22

Anointed One - 1 Samuel 2:35

Author of Eternal Salvation - Hebrews 5:9

Author of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2

Balm of Gilead - Jeremiah 8:22

Banner over us - Ps 60:4, S of Sol 2:4

Bearer of Sin - Hebrews 9:28

Before All Things - Colossians 1:17

Beginning and Ending - Revelation 1:8

Bishop of our Souls - 1 Peter 2:25

Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15

Blessed Hope - Titus 2:13

Bread of Life, my manna - John 6:35

Bridegroom - John 3:29

Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16

Brightness of His Glory - Hebrews 1:3

Buckler - Psalms 18:30

Captain - Joshua 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:10

Changeless One - Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8

Chief Among 10,000, S. of Solomon 5:10

Chosen of God - 1 Peter 2:4

Christ - Matthew 1:16 - 1 John 5:1

Comforter - John 14:16-18

Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25

Counselor - Isaiah 9:6

Creator - Romans 1:25 - Isaiah 40:28

Crown of Glory - Isaiah 28:5

Commentary:

Mediator





"One who intervenes between two persons who are at variance, with" a view to reconcile them. This word is not found in the Old "Testament; but the idea it expresses is found in Job 9:33, in" "the word "daysman" (q.v.), marg., "umpire." "This word is used in the New Testament to denote simply an "internuncius, an ambassador, one who acts as a medium of" communication between two contracting parties. In this sense Moses is called a mediator in Gal. 3:19. "Christ is the ONE AND ONLY mediator between God and man ( 1 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 8:6; 9:15; 12:24). He makes reconciliation between God and man by his all-perfect atoning sacrifice. Such a mediator "must be at once divine and human, divine, that his obedience and" "his sufferings might possess infinite worth, and that he might" possess infinite wisdom and knowlege and power to direct all things in the kingdoms of providence and grace which are "committed to his hands ( Matt. 28:18; John 5:22, 25, 26, 27); and" "human, that in his work he might represent man, and be capable" of rendering obedience to the law and satisfying the claims of "justice ( Heb. 2:17, 18; 4:15, 16), and that in his glorified" humanity he might be the head of a glorified Church ( Rom. 8:29). "This office involves the three functions of prophet, priest, and "king, all of which are discharged BY JESUS both in his estate" of humiliation and exaltation. These functions are so inherent in the one office that the quality appertaining to each gives character to every mediatorial act. They are never separated in the exercise of the office of MEDIATOR

Thank you for your response, I just found your reply. For some reason it wasn't in my replys. I will check back on this thread again just incase you reply to this.

I pray deliverance from any and all attacks against you while you're sleeping! Spiritual, natural or both.

The 1st place I would like to start: Have you received or ask GOD to be LORD of your life? Accepting Jesus Christ as your savior? John 3:15-16,

With that we are sealed with promise, 2Corinthians 1:20-22, Ephesians 4:30, Ephesians 1:13, James 1:5, Acts 5:32, Romans 15:13, Acts 2:28, 1Corinthian 6:19, John 14:26, Acts 10:38, Mark 16:16-18, 1John 5:9-21,

* if you have not accepted Jesus as your personal LORD & Savior. Please do that right now, in prayer. 2Corinthians 6:2, 1Thessalonians 5:9, John 14:6,

Hebrews 1, note Hebrews 1:14, if you have received Jesus Christ as Savior, then the visible/invisible image was it fighting on your behalf?

* If you have been involved with anything associated with darkness & evil knowingly or others around you or in your dwelling have. Destroy those things, get it away from you. Turn away from those things. Ask forgiveness from our Father in Heaven. Matthew 6:23, Luke 11:34-36,

* Ephesians 5:11,

Ephesians 6,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Jesse, the bible teaches we do. It is called free will. If OSAS was true then the rendering of scripture would be completely different. Yet, there are way too many if/then conditional statements directly related to salvation to think that we somehow become robots. Yes, God is powerful and sovereign enough, but, that is not how he has set up his plan of salvation. We must abide in Christ to receive the promise of eternal life. That is God's plan. You seem to be making a straw man argument.

We are kept by the power of God through a continual enduring faith. If we are automatically secure and could not remove ourselves from God's hand, as John 28-29 highlights, then where is the bible verse saying so? Because I see in verse 27 that it is only those who are following Christ are secure in the Fathers hand.

And just as I responded to the holy spirit working in me to receive Christ as salvation, I need to remain in Christ. 1 John 5:13 tells us we can have assurance of salvation. However, if the one who does not remain in Christ was "never saved" to begin with, then no one can ever have peace and assurance because no one can read into the future.

The bible seems pretty transparent that we are saved by faith, are continuing to be saved and safe in the hand of God by faith, and will have final salvation if we endure to the end.

I read your commentary on Matt. 24:13 and the word "shall" denotes a future occurrence of salvation, not past. You are right that it is in the Aorist principle. Aorist can also be future tense and if it was past tense wouldn't Matt 24:13 have read "all who have believed will ensure to the end"? But it doesn't.

Thank you for your reply, but, I don't see the sense in going back and forth on this. I have read the other posts from everyone and Erich/Doug really did a great job using scripture to support conditional salvation with clarity.

I cannot describe how much I miss my parents and grandparents. Like you said, I had to decide to live in the NOW.

So when the Lord called me into evangelism, I went. I made mistakes, but my heart was pure. I didn't have time to think how people had treated me prior, before I was saved.

Jesus helped me be "one of those people" that you feel you've known many years. Good news carrier with feet lol.

I have happy expectation about heaven. To see family, friends, people I prayed with, and for. I'm still here, so I'm always looking at faces to see that one person who sees the Light of Jesus, on my face. Old age isn't happening. I've got all this hope to give away, before the "door is closed".

Hebrews 11:1

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

John 14:1

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

John 10:38

But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

John 5:47

But if ye believe not his writings, [Bible] how shall ye believe my words?

Love these little verses!!

Sister Suze, we are the body, Christ, the Word, is the LIFE in US, the body.

Christ said when you need a word to speak or a scripture to quote it will come to your mind, because THE WORD is the LIFE of the Body (YOU).

PROPHECY:

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my SPIRIT within you, and CAUSE you (the body) to walk in my statutes, and keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

FULFILLED at pentecost:

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (the life) that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Your (the body) lips move because the life (Christ in You) CAUSES them to move.

Job 23:12 Neither have I gone back from the commandments of HIS LIPS (you are ONE with Christ)(LIFE is Christ and BODY is You).

Job 27:4 My (yours and Christ) LIPS shall not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit.

Job 2:10 ...in all this Job did not sin with his lips.

Psalms 12:4 Who (one with no knowledge of truth) have said, With our tongue we will prevail, our lips are our own: who is Lord over us.

We were PREDESTINATED to be the IMAGE OF CHRIST.

John 5:30 I can of myself do nothing ...

Christ is the BODY that holds the LIFE of the FATHER.

John 15:5 .....for without me you can do nothing ....

WE are the BODY that holds the LIFE of Christ.

John 17:22 And the glory that thou gavest me I have given them, that they MAY BE ONE, even as WE ARE ONE.

Is it not mind boggling to walk in TRUTH.

God Bless YOU!

This prophetic psalm shows Judas Iscariot and all the evil to befall him and his descendants.

Note the first couple verses where prayer and a general attitude of love was shown (Christ until the end had him as a "trusted friend" ( Psalm 41:9). The curses on the wicked indeed can affect generations in the future (v. 10). Satan himself; in fact entered Judas after the sop was offered and at that point Jesus told him to do what he had planned quickly. When we look at verse 6; we are also reminded of the nation of Israel as a whole ( John 5:43). They will accept Antichrist with Satan at his "right hand" as Revelation states. Verse 18 speaks of another verse about Judas mentioned in Acts 1:18 and detailed in the Gospel of Matthew when he fell off the rope he hung himself with. We are also reminded of the situation of Acts 12:23 with Herod; and other verses where similar ailments took away the wicked.

From verse 20 on; we of course can apply similar logic with David's situation as the Son of David; namely Christ Himself. Verse 28 seems to refer to the Resurrection of the wicked (when they rise); as every knee shall bow; every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of the Father in Philippians 2:10-11; but also in Isaiah and many other books of scripture as well.

We must look to Deuteronomy to understand that God still blesses the "thousands" that call on His name; despite generational banishment and curses for the disobedience and sin actions of ancestors ( Deut. 5:9-10). This chapter though shows how someone can be called AND chosen; albeit with the foreknowledge that they would be of the Devil from the beginning. This was of course to fulfill prophecy; but also God uses the enemy to buffet servants such as Job and Paul to accomplish His purposes. Let us not ascribe to such behavior ourselves! Surely we do not understand all His ways; nor forsee how all things for those who LOVE Him turn out for the good ( Romans 8:28).

Brother bill mc:

mark 9:23 jesus said unto him, if thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

what is it that we have to believe? what's inside this belief that make all things possible?

ephesians 4:4 there is one body, and one spirit ......

ephesians 4:6 one god and father or all .....

christ is the body, the father (spirit< truth< life) dwells in the body (of christ).

john 5:26 for as the father hath life in himself; so hath he given the son to have life in himself.

john 5:19 .....the son can do nothing of himself .....

christ is the body of the father, everything is done by the father through the action of the body. his son, christ.

all things are possible for christ, because he has the father indwelling him.

through the operation of the cross, we can now have the father (spirit< truth

Circular arguments on this topic remind me of an Abbott and Costello "who's on first" skit. In case anyone isn't aware, here are some scriptures describing one God with three components: father, son, and holy spirit. We likely will never 100% comprehend God nor should we expect to, but the fact is the Bible describes God as a triune Godhead, uses plural terms, says the three are "one", and I will trust God's Word over man's word. Christians will keep sharing the truth of the scriptures everytime someone tries to challenge God's word.

Godhead:

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Salvation is a gift from God. The Blood He shed on the Cross, the Faith we had to repent and received His Grace...to be born again only truly happens once. You cannot undo what God has done. Only God had that power and He never says in His Word that Salvation could be removed.

Read the words from Dr. Ray Stanford (1916-2012) and he once said, "The moment you are saved, you become a member of the body of Christ. If you could ever become unsaved, part of Christ's own body would go to hell"

Now, what does the Holy KJV Bible say?

We are clearly taught from God's Word that works are NOT essential to our salvation. Titus 3:5 states... "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us..." And again in Ephesians 2:8,9 we are told, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." We are all Hell-deserving sinners! We do NOT have anything to do with salvation except to receive God's free gift by FAITH. Salvation is receiving, NOT giving.

If I cannot do good works to get saved,

then how can I do bad works to lose salvation?

Jesus said in John 10:28, "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." -1st John 5:13

Some believe because Salvation is eternal...we could go back to sin without consequence. No, there are grave consequences and we do not have a sin license because we have eternal security:

"What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid." - Romans 6:15

Be of peace, live a Holy life risen in Christ, read your Bible as they are our instructions for life and God bless you!

Luke 9:28-36. Mount of Transfiguration

Jesus was talking to Moses and Elijah

Peter and John saw this taking place and were thinking they should build churches; instead of just "being in the moment."

Then Father God tells them, this is my beloved Son__Hear Him!

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

* Romans 1:20*

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

I do not want to offend you, but the word "Trinity". It is a word that the Catholic Church uses. The word used in the Bible approved by most all Churches is Godhead.

The word Triune simply means three.

When Chris returns, if you see him in here ask him about the Council of Churches; history,

I think you'll see what I mean if you look up those scriptures.

Blessings, Mishael

Please read: Isaiah 26:19, Ezekiel 37:12,13, Matthew 27:50-54,

John 12:1, Romans 8, Matthew 9:18-25, Matthew 11:5, Matthew 28, Mark 9:9, Luke 24:46, John 2:22, John 5:19-29, = Matthew 25:31-46, John 11:25, John 11:39-53, John 12:9, Romans 14:9, 1Peter 4, Revelation 1:5-8,

Revelation 20,

Ephesians 5,

Hopefully these are helpful

Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 16:23,25,29, Exodus 20:2,8,9,10,11, Exodus 31:12-18, Exodus 35:1-2, Leviticus 16:29-34, Leviticus 23, Leviticus 24:8, Leviticus 25, Numbers 28:10, Deuteronomy 5:12-15, Exodus 22:22, Deuteronomy 10:17-20, Deuteronomy 14:27-29, Deuteronomy 16, Deuteronomy 16:10-15, Deuteronomy 26:12,13, Isaiah 1:11-24,

2Chronicles 36:14-21, Nehemiah 9, Nehemiah 13:10-22,

Isaiah 56, Isaiah 58, Jeremiah 17:7-27, Amos 8:4-10,

Matthew 12:2-5, reference Ezekiel 46:1,12,

Matthew 12:8, Matthew 12:1-14, John 5:6-47, John 7:22-23, John 19:31, Matthew 23:23, Matthew 25:31-46

Dear Bernie

In those verses like V24 and V25 the hole Gospel is included. Pages can be written to explain what they mean. But in a few words those who hear and believe in Jesus' word that He was sent by Father God to sacrifice Himself for people to have eternal life, then those people will not be judged by God in the Final Judgement (because they believe in Him through Jesus and have their sins erased) and will not die spiritually (that is go to hell) but live eternally with God.

If smd has a better definition please post it.

what is the meaning of john 5:24

what is the meaning of john 5:25

what is the explanation of john 5:25

God is telling us simply that, If YOU if hear his word (Jesus) and believe on him that sent me, (The Father sent the Son Jesus Christ), hath everlasting life ( Romans 10:9), (those whom believe this fact have everlasting life, no ending this is only accomplished by Christ whom is our saviour which is eternal) and shall not come into condemnation; (condemnation from sin being removed by Jesus Hebrews 10:10 it is the devil that condemns, God convicts), but is passed from death unto life (when we were without Jesus we were dead, but were we now believe on him and his testimony, we have a new life, remembering life is in and with God).

I hope that helps God bless.

Dear "Bernie" those ppl who believes in Jesus will have eternal life with God in the Holy Spirit. If you read on, you will understand better. Chapter 7 and 8. Pray for wisdom or for the Lord to open the scripture to you.

God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ

what is the explanation of john 5:24

Good day i truly believe Jesus was say that if you believe in Gods words, in know that it comes from God himself, you on your way to be save from being condemn but you also have to be born again. die in the flesh, so you can live in the spirit. If i am not right please someone give more insight. I leave you in Jesus name.

Bernie,

In John 5:24, Jesus is summarizing everything He just said by saying that you must believe in me and the one who has sent me. You have to take us together as equals. If you reject either one of us, you will be condemned!

what is the meaning of john 5:24

The word Trinity came through the Catholic religion. Triune means three.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit are called THE GODHEAD in scripture; in the approved KING JAMES BIBLE.

There are many, many scriptures showing the Godhead working together; and speaking to each other.

Paul clears it up in ROMANS 1:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who HOLD THE TRUTH in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath SHOWED IT unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

[The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.]

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

(there are many more)

I hope this helps you. Mishael

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

("us" is plural. God is plural.)

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

"there are three"

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"Word was God."

There is no denying this says and means the Word was God. Who is the Word? The rest of John 1 reveals who.

John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

Philippians 2:5-8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"Christ Jesus...being in the form of God"

Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

John 20:28

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

1 John 2:22-24

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father."

Hi Jasmine, you asked several questions but I will just address your first question about God plural. It's plural because God is a triune being composed of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Beware of anyone pushing their own ideology and twisting scripture in order to accomplish their desired outcome. The Bible already says what it means and because it says this about God I choose to believe it.

Here are verses describing that. God bless.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

Hi everyone dear. Now a case is central. You can turn around and never touch what you "like so much" again. John 8:36 Like and take any miserable thought as temptation. 2 Corintihans 10:5 Place it somewhere you can not come and never bring it out again! : D I see hope in that. 1 John 5:13

For when we meet the Lord in our life, all things become new, the old is gone. John 3:7 John 3:21 And remember it is the Lord who must draw us. John 6:44 We ourselves do not know anything. It is good that we can lean on Jesus, we must all do that.

Stay blessed in Jesus name, love u all in Christ.

Hello, FREE

Yes Jesus was conceived in Mary as a human baby. The humanity of Jesus had a beginning, but the divinity of Jesus (God the Son) never had a beginning.

John 1:1-4 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was Go. He was in the beginning with God. all things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." (NIV)

john 5:26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself." (NIV)

John 11:25 "I am the Resurrection and the Life." (NIV)

What I was saying was that The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all equally eternal, without beginning, and that Life is who they are which makes them self-existent, not having acquired life from anything outside of themselves. Jesus is eternally God the Son Who took upon Himself an additional nature to His divine nature, that is human nature. In Jesus is these two natures in one Person. His human nature had a beginning, but His divine nature existed eternally.

Thank you for asking for clarification.

2 questions: I know now God through Jesus Christ is a loving and forgiven. I know now that having an obortion many years ago was wrong. However, the Word say, You shall not kill. Will I be forgiven?

I was told years ago God wants to heal me from my hurt. I could think of anything even the sins I had already commites. Just this year it can to pass what hurt He spoke about. My grandmother die and my biological mother lived in a very violent world. I was so angry with God and hurt. Is it possible His has forgiven me for rebelling all those years ago? He has been extemely good to me and I am happy with Him. Amen!