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Amen Lbooth1955!

Very nicely laid out.

Blessings.

The word of god tells us that the lord will bring his bride [church] with him to live in new jerusalem, in the new city. once he raptures the church, his [bride] goes to heaven where the lord lives, he will never be separated again from his bride [church] through all eternity.

the church is his [bride]. married through all eternity. where the lord is, his bride goes where he goes. never, never again separated. the church [bride] will live with him through all the millennium and all eternity.

hope this helps you,

Jas,5:17-18 "Three and a half years" (3 of 4)

In the beginning was the Word, By the same token in the fulness time is what the Father has set in his dvine Will. "Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months./And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit." What does his prayer prove? Elias just like one of us praysvand God answers, This three years and six months refers to gis Son. His assertion that My Father and I are one was never in question nor in doubt. This is how the Covenant has been worded and not an iota or jot of it shall be changed. Mind tou we are talking about th natural world and God set the light for seasons years and days. God framed the worlds by the word and whosoever has faith shall be entangled with the Fatherin his Son. The Holy Spirit organizes the narrative on reconstituted time so the sign Three and a half years refer to the Word which was Law.

"And Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, As the LORD God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word."(1 Kngs 17.1;2 Kngs 2.24) It is according to my word which is another indication of entanglement. So when Elisha curses the 42 sons of Belial, "And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them."(cursed them in the name of the Lord' sets it on behalf of the Father, The Word is not merely sound or the sign but Jesus Christ the embodiment of the Law of the Spirit. 42 is a number refering to the earthly ministry and is set in months. It has relevance to this Jesus was manifested to destroy the works of the devil. "And power was given unto him (the beast) to continue forty and two months."(Rev.13.5).

Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Dear all of you who ponder the Word. I'm going straight to the point.

Are we alive or are we dead Christians? What does the scripture say. Now, I've just mentioned a few scriptures. Are we alive or are we dead? We are dead to sin, right? Rom 6:11-13 So what does alive mean in that context? Are we alive or are we dead? 2 Cor 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. So in plain text it must be that in sin there is death. And in the Spirit there is life. So what are we dead or alive? In Ezekiel 37 it says about the dead bones. Which God made alive. Quite interesting, as we ask ourselves today whether we are alive or dead. When we know that the Spirit that lives in us is alive forever. Of course we will be too. So our living spirits today will never die. So are we alive or are we dead? We live for all time. So what happens then, when Jesus comes back. We are not dead! We live no matter if we have been dead in the body we carried for 100/1000 years, we are still alive with Him when He comes. In the Spirit.

What that means, I won't say more, but each reader must judge for themselves. What happens then?

Love u all

Gen.1.14 "Seasons and time (2 of 4)

Jesus declared to the horror of the Pharisees,'I and my Father are one." What is God, the Father of lights and his Son the true Light,'which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.'( Jn 1.9) This relationship can be explained. Here is a bit of Science and if anyone disagrees, he may look elsewhere.

There's just something about the quantum world that doesn't seem to make sense in ours. Bouts of migraine in most sufferers seem to be triggered by solar flares. The light takes some eight minutes to reach us but it triggers migraine earlier than that. Why?

The story begins way back in 1935, Einstein and associate-physicists found something strange. They entangled two particles- let's call them Alice and Bob - so that their physical properties were linked even across wide distances, and anything you did to one particle would impact the other. Intuitively, you'd think that if you had access to Alice, you'd know way more about her than you would about Bob, who's a distance away. This is also what you'd expect given Einstein's proof called EPR paradox: By studying Alice, you actually learn much more about Bob than you do about Alice. It is this Jesus Christ the visible image of God signifies in terms of light. So time required for a solar flare to reach a migraine sufferer is unnecessary. By the same token we are entangled with God in his Son. Let us take Enoch's case, "And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him."(Gen.5.24)

The Covenant referring to the natural says,'and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years." So how we walk has its counter sign in heaven. Our faith is acceptable before God, the Father,"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."( 1 Jn 1.7). From the analogy of RBob and Alice by knowing Jesus we know more about his Father who as light has no variableness.

Gen.1.14 "Seasons and time" (1 of 4)

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" Here we have the Covenant in which the purpose of these lights are fixed. Seasons days and years are stated therein. Notice that here is no mention of weeks. Weeks are set by man for his convenience.

The segnificance of the day arises from the decree of the Father. "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee."(Ps.2.7) So the Spirit supplies us seven days to indicate each of this day runs seriailly without pause, 'continually to use the term'. Here is a verse:"And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."(v.5)

God divided the light from the darkness and this shall run on as a steady beat till the point of time there shall be no more night. This Covenant is set and it is God who determines when. This point refers to the year. So acceptable year of the Lord in the Isaiah quote refers to the will of the Father. These seven days according the decree fall under the authority of the Son.

It was within the Will of the Father to send his only begotten Son to the world. ( Jn 3.16) The Spirit serts time as part of the Covenant to incorporate the earthly ministry of the Son of man.

This explains the phrase Time, times and half a time'.(Rev.12.14) In accordance with the spiritual truth Col.1.9 Jewish nation shall be judged in terms of Jesus whose ministry runs Three and half years or 42 months. In the Revelation ch.12 we have two references" Notice the number of days in v.14? "And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent."

Hi Someone. I'm replying to here as you have shared more detail of your aspirations to gain knowledge of religious diversity. Though to state, I would agree with GiGi (shared in your other post), that, as a Christian, you would do far better to spend time in the Bible, getting to know what God has to say to you & the world through it; and how to be prepared to face life's problems and Satan's assaults that will come to you, with a real confidence that your faith in a God Who never fails, will overcome the world ( 1 John 5:4,5).

To aim for what you are seeking to achieve, I doubt can ever be achieved in a life-time; simply because the diversity of religions and their beliefs and practises are too far-reaching. You can get a general outline of their beliefs, as contrasted to what the Bible gives us, or even go deeper in study, but after all is done, one is still left in a state of ignorance, knowing that there is much more to be learned. As well, all our study will only give an academic knowledge, since most religions are deeply rooted into the history, culture, and language of the people, which means that one has to brought up within that culture or residing within it, engaging with the people. Even with Islam that I'm more familiar with, there are so many sects within it, and if you add folk Islam as well, makes for a formidable set of beliefs and practises, that one can only gain a limited amount of knowledge.

I fear that you may become so entrenched in this pursuit, that other areas of life may suffer, especially your higher studies which would be more profitable in settling into a career, while you seek the Lord's guidance for what lies ahead of you. If perhaps you are led to meet with those of another religion in the course of your studies & future involvements, then yes, it would be very worthwhile to learn more from them about their beliefs, their needs, their hopes, etc. And from these friendships, opportunities will arise to share Christ your Hope. GBU.

When is the Lords day ? According to scripture.

Hi Poppybrown75. Thanks for your enquiry on Revelation chap 21. In a short space as this, I can only share a brief outline.

As the Apostle John continues to receive revelations & visions of "things which shall be hereafter" ( Revelation 1:19), the vision of the New Jerusalem was given to him in this chapter. And I should state, since there is a lot of imagery in the Book of the Revelation and often things listed are not in sequence, different views are generated; so what I understand could be at variance with another's view and I too must admit that my understanding is not necessarily accurate, but what I have for now.

We read in the first verse, that the sky and earth as we know it will be no more at some time ahead determined by God. This is probably because God is cleansing it of the stain of sin that existed and now starting afresh with a new earth. And a new city, the holy Jerusalem is brought forth from God onto this new Earth. Jerusalem, as you know, is not only the capital of Israel, but God's appointed city ( Psalm 48:1,2,8; Joel 3:16,17), so God's focus in bringing forth this "New Jerusalem" is where He will dwell with those who belong to Him (v3); all who have rejected God, living in sin have faced eternal damnation (v8).

And so the vision of this new city was given to John (vv9-21) in all its beauty and splendor. The verses also tell us that there was no temple (or, even the need of a building for worship), for where God Himself & His Son are, we will worship them there (vv22,23). There will be no need for natural or artificial light as the Triune God is the Light flooding the city (v23). All this gives a reflection of Heaven now. However, what is perplexing, is the mention of both the saved nations (saved people) and their kings (leaders) who will bring praise and worship to God in the city (vv24-26). I can't tell how this actually figures in such an environment; i.e. from where do these folk come outside the city's walls? Hope this helps a little.

I have gone through your recent posts Lbooth1955 and am in agreement with your eschatological timeline, and particularly that the Church at Christ's coming for her, will be taken to Heaven (as the Scriptures you cited show), escaping God's Judgements that will be poured out on an evil, Christ-rejecting World. The Great Tribulation/God's Wrath is against the unrepentant sinful unregenerate men, not against the Church that has been cleansed and purified through His Son. If the Church should also have to bear God's Wrath, which comes to the unbelieving, then a case of double jeopardy would be in play, which would go against the Righteousness of God.

Yet, the question that I deal with is: if the Great Tribulation ( Matthew 24:21) and the Day of God's Wrath ( 1 Thessalonians 5:9; Romans 1:18) are different events, but pertaining to Daniel's 70th week, is it possible that they are actually part of the same action of God in Heaven? When I read 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, I sense that this period of time starts with the removal of the Restrainer and the revelation of the 'man of sin'. Even though we don't see that great outpouring of God's Wrath upon the world ( 2 Peter 3:7-12, and others) leading to the destruction of the world and evil men, I feel that God's Wrath in its early stages of revelation when He removes His Restrainer that has thus far held the world to some degree of normalcy and decency, though now rapidly degenerating.

I take the example of a dam, holding back a large volume of water from passing to the other side. When water is to be released, the release valves are opened incrementally letting out a little water at a time, or else there would be catastrophic consequences to the inhabitants on the other side. Likewise, when God's 'valves' begin to open (i.e. His Wrath begins as He removes His Restrainer & all that brings), the world might know that their time is short & the little suffering that life threw at them, will be insurmountably horrendous. GBU.

Hello again, Lbooth,

I recall reading in Hebrews 11:14-16 tells us that the OT saints, including Abraham, of whom the promises were made, were desiring a better country than an earthly one, specifically one that is heavenly, and in vs.39-40 we read that these did not receive the promises they hoped to receive because God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

This clearly says that those OT saints receive what we receive from God as our hope and fulfillment of what He has promised. We receive the same thing that is better than an earthly eternity.

In Heb. 11:10, we are told that Abraham was looking for a heavenly city, the New Jerusalem made by the hand of God, not by human hands.

Heb. 12:22-24 in speaking to Hebrew believers says that they have come to the heavenly Jerusalem, inhabited with angels and the church of the firstborn, to God, to spirits made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of the New Covenant,

So, as I read these chapters, I understand that believing Hebrews receive the same destiny as believing Gentiles.

I do not see verses that speak of unbelieving Hebrews receiving an earthly destiny.

Please cite Scriptures that support the dispensational viewpoint you presented here.

Amen Azzan77.

Dear Lbooth1955 again,

Another question, can you give me Scripture support for your statement that Paul or Jesus said that His coming to rapture the church is imminent and without signs?

From what I have read in Scripture is that Jesus' second advent is visible, preceded by signs, and singular. I do not read anywhere that Jesus comes for the church to take it from earth before the tribulation and the revealing of the man of sin spoken of in 2 Thess. 2.

If I read the Scriptures that dispensationalist often cite as texts that teach this rapture and I take a literal and "plain sense" and according to what is actually stated, I see these texts as definitely speaking of Jesus second coming at the end of the age.

Scriptures cited often are 1 Thess. 4 and 1 Cor. 15 but both of these text show this gathering of God's people is followed by the day of the Lord ( 1Thess. 4 into ch. 5) and the "end" ( 1 Cor. 15).

I hope you can bring out how these texts teach what you are claiming. I truly am interested in understanding how you and other dispensationalist interpret these as teaching a pre-trib rapture separate from Jesus' second coming.

Hello, Lbooth 1955

One question for you--

If the church is in heaven with Jesus during the millennium how is it that Jesus is on earth during the millennium reigning with Israel?

I ask this because Jesus forever retains His human body and nature united with His divine nature. A human body can only be in one place at one time, so how can Jesus be present in heaven in His human body and on earth reigning in His human body simultaneously during the millennium?

Hello Someone,

I suggest that you diligently read and study the Bible because in this book you will find the words and beliefs that will lead you to possess eternal life in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

In another post you said that you wish to learn different theologies. If you wish to compare theological positions within

Christianity, then the more Scripture you know before comparing will help you more than you now know as to what is sound doctrine and what does not align with what God has revealed in Scripture and in Jesus Christ.

If you mean you are desiring to compare theologies of different religions, I would advise against doing so and stick with Christian doctrine only until you have read the Bible through a few times and sought answers to whatever questions you develop from such reading. I advise you seek answers from your pastor or someone you know who has been a Christian a long time and demonstrates that he is very familiar with the Bible and also the overall schematic of God's revelation to us. If you do not have such a Christian in your sphere right now, this is a good site to ask questions.

I don't recommend studying other religions because they are all false and will lead you into idolatry unless you are a strong and seasoned Christian believer with a thorough grasp of the essential doctrines of the Christian faith and even more so, that you have a deep, abiding, and committed relationship with Jesus Christ on a daily if not moment by moment basis.

Someone,

You are created by God to be brought to salvation from sin in and through Jesus Christ. This is the best position you can have before God. The salvation Jesus brings to those who believe in Him is what every person ever created needs most of all because we are sinners who do not obey or love God before we are converted to Christ Jesus, though God desires us to love and obey Him from a place of faith and reliance on Him.

So, I hope this helps you to begin your studies. Bible first.

Lbooth1955,

Thank you for your reply. I have saved your posts; they don't stay very long these days. Looks like our understandings are quite different, but I will study the things you have presented and reply in a day or two. I do thank you for your very clear perspective and respectful manner of discussion, that is what I love about this site.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Shawna,

I will agree with Spencer. The grace of God is presented in Scripture as a pure gift, not something earned by human effort or maintained by personal strength. Paul makes it clear in Ephesians 2:8-9 that salvation comes "by gracethrough faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast." Because it is a gift, it rests entirely on God's faithfulness rather than on man's performance. This truth assures believers that their standing before God is grounded in His unchanging promise and not in the fluctuations of their emotions, efforts, or seasons of faith.

Even though a believer may experience moments of doubt, weakness, or wavering, God Himself never wavers in the gift He has given. Romans 11:29 declares that "the gifts and calling of God are without repentance," meaning He does not revoke or retract what He freely bestows. Once received, His grace secures the believer eternally because it flows from His nature and His covenant, not from ours. Where our faith may be fragile, His faithfulness is unshakable, preserving us in Christ and reminding us that what God has given, no one-including ourselves-can take away.

Grace and peace

Hi Shawna.

Mat I ask what does fall away means to you?

Are you saying this person abandoned or now reject the Christian faith?

You will find different options on someone falling away.

My understanding is if you recieved Christ you can't get rid of him.

If this person has truly received Christ and fell into some sort of sin then 1 John 1:9 would be adequate.

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

You said "for a while is what worries me.

That should cause one to examine themself.

God won't let his children continue in sin.

There's others here that can help but it might take some opening up on your part.

Blessings.

What I mean is whether there is still a deep need for the commitment required or to find a starting point instead of literally learning "all" theologies.

I recognize the impossibility of mastering all traditions, emphasizing that depth rather than breadth is a realistic path to learning.

Some key points I am exploring are diversity of traditions, historical context, and the recommendation to focus on specific areas.

How long does it take to learn all theologies?

I am asking this because the world of theology seems incredibly vast and deep. Even within one religion, like Christianity, there are many branches-Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox-each with its own unique teachings and history. I am curious if it is even possible for one person to truly learn and understand them all in a single lifetime. I want to know if this is a journey that takes years, decades, or if it is truly a never-ending pursuit of knowledge. My goal is to understand the scope of such a study

Where is the Church/the Body of Christ during the 1000 years?

From a dispensational perspective:

The Rapture ( 1 Thess. 4:16-17; 1 Cor. 15:51-53) removes the Body of Christ from the earth before the tribulation begins.

After being caught up, the Church is with the Lord in heaven ( John 14:1-3; Col. 3:4). Paul speaks of believers being presented before Christ in glory ( Eph. 2:6-7; Phil. 3:20-21).

During the Millennial reign ( Rev. 20:1-6), Christ rules on earth from Jerusalem, fulfilling promises to Israel. The Church, however, is not seen inheriting earthly covenants but reigning with Christ from a heavenly position ( 2 Tim. 2:12; Eph. 1:20-23).

So: Israel (and believing nations) inherit the earth and the kingdom promises, while the Body of Christ enjoys its sphere in the heavens. Both programs glorify Christ, but in distinct realms.

Is the Great Tribulation the same as the Wrath of God?

Dispensational teachers usually distinguish them:

The Great Tribulation ( Matt. 24:21; Rev. 7:14) is the last half (3 years) of Daniel's 70th week, marked by Antichrist's persecution of Israel and intense satanic opposition. It is a time of "Jacob's trouble" ( Jer. 30:7).

The Wrath of God ( Rev. 6:16-17; 1 Thess. 1:10; Rev. 15-16) refers to God's direct judgments poured out through the seals, trumpets, and bowls. These extend over the whole 7-year period, but intensify toward the end.

They overlap but are not identical: the tribulation highlights man's and Satan's wrath against God's people, while the wrath of God is His judgment upon the rebellious world.

Summary:

The Body of Christ is in heaven during the 1000 years, glorified with Christ, while Israel and nations are blessed on earth under His reign.

The Great Tribulation is a time of satanic persecution (especially against Israel), whereas the Wrath of God is divine judgment upon the unbelieving world.

Grace and Peace.

The rapture, the antichrist, and the 7-year tribulation.

From a dispensational perspective, the rapture ( 1 Thess. 4:16-17; 1 Cor. 15:51-52) is the catching away of the Body of Christ before God's wrath is poured out on the world. Once the church is removed, God resumes His prophetic program with Israel. At that point, the Antichrist arises, confirming a covenant with many for seven years ( Dan. 9:27). This initiates the tribulation period, divided into the first half of false peace and the second half of unparalleled persecution, known as "the time of Jacob's trouble" ( Jer. 30:7).

In 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Paul reassures the Thessalonians who feared they had missed "the day of Christ." He reminds them two prophetic events must occur before Christ's second advent to earth: (1) a "falling away" (apostasia), and (2) the revelation of the man of sin, the Antichrist. The key distinction lies in understanding Paul's use of "our gathering together unto him" (v. 1) as the rapture, which he taught was imminent and without signs. The "day of Christ" (often used interchangeably with "day of the Lord" in prophetic context) refers not to the rapture but to the coming judgment and tribulation leading to Christ's visible return.

Thus, Paul is not teaching that the rapture cannot happen until the apostasy and Antichrist appear; rather, he comforts believers that the fearful "day" they dreaded had not arrived, since those events were not yet in motion. For the Body of Christ, the blessed hope is always imminent. The falling away and the Antichrist's revelation belong to Israel's prophetic timeline after the church's removal. Once the church is gone, those left-unbelieving Gentiles and Israel-will see these signs unfold.

In short, dispensationalism harmonizes the passages by keeping programs distinct: the church is raptured prior to the tribulation, while the apostasy and Antichrist belong to the prophetic sequence that unfolds afterward.

Are the Raptured Saints Taken to Heaven?

The Rapture is not only the catching away of believers but also their transfer to a heavenly destiny. Scripture consistently distinguishes the Body of Christ's hope from Israel's earthly kingdom promises.

Christ's Direct Promise

In John 14:2-3, Jesus declares, "In my Father's house are many mansions I go to prepare a place for you I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." Since Christ ascended into heaven ( Acts 1:9-11), the "place" prepared is in heaven. At the Rapture, He receives believers to that heavenly home.

Paul's Revelation of Our Heavenly Citizenship

Paul affirms that "our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven" ( Phil. 3:20-21). Believers await Christ from heaven, and He will transform their bodies to share His heavenly glory. In Col. 3:1-4, Paul writes that when Christ appears, we shall appear with Him in glory. Eph. 2:6-7 further shows we are already spiritually seated in heavenly places, confirming our destiny above.

The Rapture Texts Lead Upward

In 1 Thess. 4:16-17, believers are caught up to meet the Lord in the air, leaving the earth behind. The transformation in 1 Cor. 15:51-52 fits saints for life in glory, not an earthly existence. This upward catching away marks the beginning of our eternal presence with Christ in His realm.

Contrast With Israel's Hope

Israel's prophetic saints are promised an earthly kingdom ( Jer. 23:5-6; Matt. 19:28). The Church, the Body of Christ, is promised heavenly blessings ( Eph. 1:3). These two programs remain distinct, preserving the unique hope of the Church.

Conclusion: The saints are not left on earth after the Rapture. Christ Himself promised to receive us into the Father's house. Paul declares our citizenship is in heaven, our blessings are in heavenly places, and the Rapture unites us with Christ above, forever in His presence.

Grace and Peace.

To all that be in Christ,

Scripture interpreting Scripture, a closer look...

When Scripture has no direct verse to compare with, you must widen the lens. Paul writes of "comparing spiritual things with spiritual" ( 1 Cor. 2:13). That does not always mean identical wording, but weighing a truth against the larger framework of God's Word.

1. Context First - If no parallel passage exists, let the surrounding verses, chapter, and book define meaning. Who is speaking? To whom? Under what covenant or dispensation? James 2:24 has no duplicate, yet its setting among Israel's kingdom promises clarifies its force.

2. Broader Categories - Even if words are unique, the themes often appear elsewhere. Terms like "faith," "promise," or "sacrifice" echo through many passages. By aligning the principle, you connect threads without forcing exact matches.

3. Contrast When Necessary - Sometimes Scripture compares by distinction. Paul says, "not of works" ( Rom. 4:5; Eph. 2:8-9), while James says, "by works a man is justified" ( Jas. 2:24). The harmony comes by recognizing two audiences and programs, not contradiction.

4. Let Clear Explain the Obscure - Unique verses must be interpreted by clearer passages. A difficult or one-of-a-kind phrase never stands isolated; it submits to the wider testimony of God's Word. For example, Revelation's "new heavens and new earth" is illuminated by Isaiah 65 and 2 Peter 3.

5. Theological Coherence - Above all, the Spirit never contradicts Himself. Even where no verse is repeated, the whole counsel of God supplies balance. Doctrine rests not on one obscure statement but on the harmony of all revelation.

Summary: Comparing Scripture with Scripture is not limited to finding duplicates. It includes weighing context, drawing out themes, noting contrasts, and letting the clear explain the rare. Where no direct comparison exists, the Bible still interprets itself through its unified testimony.

Grace and Peace.

Lk.4.18 "Acceptable year of the Lord" (2 of 2)

Let us set the Parable in proper context,"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:"(Mt.25.31;19.28) It is the day of Regeneration and it iconcerns the judgment as well." ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." A day is different from the acceptable yyear of the Lord. This is where the Covenant helps us correctly divide the truth comparing spiritual with spiritual. Know nothings pooh pooh to their damnation as hyper spiritualixing the text. May God open their eyes.

"And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night."(Gen.1.16) Acceptable year of the Lord refers to judgment of the day so we have two signs one to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. It is to which the day of Regeneration deals with. Outer darkness is where shall be mixt multitude.

"And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful." The Son of man in his glory refers to the throne of the Lamb hyphenated with that of his Father says,'It is done.'(Rev.21.5-6) Those who entered into God's rest are a new creation and they are shown descending from heaven while the judging of nation cover nations of darkness. The mystery of Rev.17.2 where the great harlot refers "With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication." .Little do these sons of perdition know that there is a payback time. "For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." It is paid double! "Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me./And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."(Matt.25.45-46)

Lk.4.18 "Acceptable year of the Lord.' (1 of 2)

At the synagogue at Nazareth, Jesus reads of the unction he received of the Word was God. Here he is reading the mandate he received accrding to the scripture. Inhis death and resurrection he became the Anointed One, meaning the Law is embodied as the Word. So the writer to the Hebrews speak of the son as the same yesterday, today and forever. The Throne of God is hyphenatedis with the Lamb and not with the Son. God tells the Son,"The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool"(Ps.110.1) He is now the Law setting every believer as priests and kings forever."And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."(Rev.1.6)

There are several ministries priests and kings are enjoined to do.What does outpouring of the Holy Spirit means for a believer who is predestined to reign with Jesus christ. Having entered into the God's rest we have them in the key passage:

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me ....to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,"

Tp preach deliverance to the captives go hand in hand with setting at liberty and nations that are destined for eternal punishment create Haves and havenots.Just as Europe dumped their refuse in the new continent we see the same in reverse. Babylon is only for billionires. Look at prisons filled with men created in the image of God. Unjust laws of the land creat them bruised and shut in. The Parable of the Goats and Sheep sets the deliverance of the believers thus:"Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?"(Mt.25.44-46) We are predestines so we serve as kings priests in in his stead.

what does the Bible say about a Christian that falls away for a while. How to get back your relationship wiht Christ

Everything going on right now, these scriptures come to mind. God Bless You all.

1 Timothy 6:4-5 - He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

Deut.3014 "Truth"

But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.' God is perfect so He tells Abram, before He sanctified him with a new name, "I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect."(Gen.17.1) Jesus also tells the same thing."Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Mt.5.48) God breathed into the nostrils of man and made him a living soul. How truth is impressed we may learn from this simple experiment

You can supercool water at home: Throw a bottle of distilled water in your freezer, and it's unlikely to crystallize until you shake it.Similarly you may claim truth is within. But unless you shake it by faith it is non-starter.

Freezing usually doesn't happen right at zero degrees for much the same reason that backyard wood piles don't spontaneously combust. To get started, fire needs a spark. And ice needs a nucleus - a seed of ice around which more and more water molecules arrange themselves into a crystal structure. Seven molecules are enough. It is thus we enter into the everlasting Covenant with faith. Seven molecules are your days in which heavenly blessings connect with our vile bodies. Faith is like the nucleus. So Moses says,"For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?"

"(vv.11-13) These blessings come from faith when it is fully followed. Science may call it ice nucleation so seven drops of supercooled ice freezes the entire swimming pool. Similarly how anyone may walk with God. In the quantum world we have entanglement, which anyone may look up, if interested. Heresy of Dispensationalism is obvious: whole or nothing. Either you make truth direct your steps or none at all.

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'This ishow we ought to liik at the Law of Moses.'

please read as 'This is how we ought to look at the Law of Moses.'

1 Cor.13.10 " Perfect Law of liberty"

"But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part."

This ishow we ought to liik at the Law of Moses. Jesus presented the doctrine of his Father on the mount and said, I have come to fulfill the law which is love. God loved the world that he sent his only begotten Son.. God is love which God and when we abide in the Son we have the fulness of God. "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.". As the imposter churches teach by taking out the 'God -in -us'" from the relationship charity is debased. That God may be all in all is where we are under the perfect Law of Liberty. With dead and resurrection of Jesus the old Law has ben removed.We are under the everlasting Covenant of seven days. The number Seven is a whole number. Jesus Christ is the perfect Law and he is the one who overcomes the word. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever."(Heb.13.8) Predestination makes us new as though our life in the Spirit began in the divine Will of the Father. He who has the Son has the Father as well. May God help us see truth as is as was and as shall be, Amen.