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Is it not written that " Levi was in the loins of Abraham when he gave tithes to Malchezidech?

If Abraham is the father of the circumcision as well as the uncircumcision or the father of the faithful be they Jew or Gentile then if he gave tithes to Malchezidech we are also obliged to do so .

There are tithes and free will offerings . Both should be given with a joyful and grateful heart.Notwithstanding those " who make merchandise out of Gods people " Who rob both God and the true church of God. We cannot buy Gods blessing nor is He moved by flattery . " The people praise me with their lips but their hearts are far from me".

And while these charlatans are paid hirelings the work of God suffers .

1 Cor.15.44-45 "Glory" (2 of 4)

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body./And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

Here we have the quickening spirit which the risen Christ offered. God made man a living soul by brething into his nostrils. Soul establishes the authority of the Father while the risen Christ breathes on them,'And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:/Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained."( Jn 20,22-23). He is referring to the quickening aspect of the Spirit and he is referring to the day of regeneration."And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."(Mt.19.28-30)

Jesus had earlier promised them "But if I depart, I will send him unto you./And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:/Of sin, because they believe not on me/ Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;/Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged."( Jn 16.7-11) This quickening spirit is the spirit of glory representy the spiritual body. This sets apart the lord from heaven from earthy. The analogy of seed specified in the Covenant on the day Three.(Gen.1.11-13)

"Ttherefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." Jesus Christ the Law embodied is forever the same.(Heb.13.8) He is anointed with oil of gladness 'above thy fellows.'(Ps.45.5). He is anointed to preach and the passage given to him to read is a testimony: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor"(Lk.4.18)

All true words Gerald. Thank you and blessings.

Wonderful, you haven't regretted it? and hearing when He calls is good, in my life He called me regularly. Before I couldn't resist anymore. And when I found out how Good He is, I regretted that I didn't come to Him sooner. And coming to the Lord Jesus is like coming home. Saved from a stormy and rebellious sea, and much more. Love u in Christ 1 John 5:1-5 Stay close.

Ps.19:1 "Glory" (1 of 4)

Glory of God is in expression. Let there be light, is a commandment. " And God said, Let there be light: and there was light./ And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."(Gen.1.3-4) Four gospels present where the word was God supplies the voice. The Law certifies it as good. The Word which was with makes the distinction. So we have the Father of lights, the voice of the Lord God, The Law of the Spirit judges it as good. God which was with God is the true Light,

These four gospels, to use an analogy from earth science are four cardinal directions. Recalling Ezekiel's vision (Ch.47) The Word becomes flesh, and it has a body. It is in human likeness. It is thus Jesus of Nazareth was made of a woman but he knew no sin and did no sin. John the Baptist, confessed, 'for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.' (Mt.3.9) The Law provides the liberty of the Spirit. In the divine will of the Father we have the emblem of the Lamb, which is also the Word which was with God. The Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world by the same token as real as the Word which was with God. It has a body is it not? These hold the four cardinal directions in the vision of Ezekiel.

"glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee." This explains body is not simply formed of dust of the ground but God has a body prepared for the Som. Now what does enter into the God's rest mean. Enter into this glorious spiritual body. When he shhall appear in glory we shall also appear with him in glory.(Col.3.4). Ezekiel stopped short with one full turn but the Spirit for our instruction lets him see from far what we have in Rev.22.1-2

Heavens declare the glory which is where our treasure should be,. The throne of God and of the Lamb explains the spiritual body we shall put. The earth is reserved for fire.

I like your prophetic insight from Song of Solomon; not too many people look there.

It seems we are pretty much in agreement; but you realize that there are people at varying levels here of understanding; although I have to say lately that people here seem much more rounded than elsewhere on the internet and there is good prayer request and response; and other discussions without too many difficult people of late.

It seems perhaps some of my issues aren't a problem here which is good perhaps I need maturing more than anything else.

Hopefully people will be encouraged to attempt to find a good Bible believing church and challenge things if people are stale yet still respect the God given authority with Pastors; Deacons and elders.

Anyway; 'nuff said on this point.

Keep the faith or; should I say may He keep you.

Later.

Rich P

' All these created in the blessed who is created in our image and according to our likeness ' is what you wrote . Perhaos mistakenly ? Jesus who you here say the blessed (?) was created in our image etc .

While Man ( the first Adam )was created in the image of God we are Born in the image of Adam .

Jesus the last Adam was not created fir God is not created but was born if a woman who was the mother of His flesh .

His. True mother Jesus said. We're they " who do the will of God".

GB

Gerald,

" you say was born ( not made) in our image and according to our likeness you have it back to front " Did I I hope not. Let us create man in our image and after our likeness' Gen.1.26,28.

When by the grace of God came to finally in a little measure ( but enough) the Love of God towards me in Christ I bowed my knees confessed that it was I who was wrong ( my sin) and asked God to forgive me and change me according to His promise by asking Jesus into my heart .

I repented not only of what I had done but at some deep level repented of what I was . A sinner a hell deserving one at that .Worthy of death with no redeeming features.

I felt no exaltation ( some do) I just knew I had dome the right thing and beloved God would in consequence fulfill His promise . It was not till a couple of days later when I confessed that I had given my life to Christ and was now His or at the time confessed He was my saviour that I had the witness of the Spirit of truth with my spirit that I was now a child of God .

I think I understand what you mean by sanctification but I'd like to point out that being BORN again is it not getting out of Egypt ? And from the dominion of Pharoah? By the blood of the Lamb the Word of God and the Power of God? Is not passing through the wilderness but boot camp as it were ? Where we learn to walk by faith and not by sight or " live not by bread alone but by every Word that proceeds from the mouth of God"?

It did not take them 40 years to reach the promised land but a little over two years . But the church has made the wandering in the desert for 40 years always proving God as the Christian norm .

The ten spies ( the majority) had forgotten what God had done not so long ago after 400 years of cruel bondage in one day . Who it was who was with them and what He had promised for the future .

" Go in and posses the land fir I have given it to you ".

God is not democratic .

Paul warns the church not to be like them who entered not in because of unbelief . Unbelief is not just not believing zGod it is also believing the wrong message .

What does it say of the bride? She will come out of the wilderness terrible as an army with banners"

I agree you need all 4 gospels to get a full and perfect picture.But If you are talking about Jesus which you say was born ( not made) in our image and according to our likeness you have it back to front .

Man was created in Gods image and according to His likeness .

Jesus was not made or created He was born of a woman thus a man but not of Adams seed not then according to our likeness or image who are born of Adams seed and according to the scriptures after his image and likeness .

When it says the Word became flesh he put on the seed of Abraham as like a garment ,but the Word has always as it were become flesh . In that when God said let there be light there was light .etc .

For all things were made by Him but always through the Word .

The birth of Christ was " My Word that goeth forth from my mouth shall not return unto me void but shall a complete,ish that where unto I SENT it"

Mary not the mother of God as some religionists foolishly claim (for God has no mother ) but the mother of His flesh and the the blood of the child always determined by the father not the mother is kept quite separate from the mothers blood lest she die .

Thus His blood carried the life of the Father for the " life is in the blood" Thus it was eternal life the life of God .

Which when shed became an eternal answer for sin speaking of " better things than the blood of Abel" .

He was indeed the Son of Man but was not born in man's image but was and is the "express image of the invisible God "

For as He was so He is "the same yesterday today and forever ".

"Waters up to the ankle ,waters up to the loins and water to swim in ."

The truth is safe enough even for little children who are squealing with delight in the shallows .

When young men go in deeper and to the loins and waist if their honest they will find not a little fear for they soon become aware of the seas immense power and could destroy them but to their delight and joy find not only does it bare them up but they can swim with their feet off the ground.

And while a few might be able to swim the English Chanel ,no one is going to be able to swim the Atlantic Ocean let alone the Pacific . So what do the scriptures say? " I could go no further " and the writer was led to a river on who's banks Rees were planted .

'The image of God is thus restored" obviously. That is the new creation. The point I am making here is the Covenant requires all the gospels synchronize with the Law of the Spirit. If anyman is in Christ he is a new creation. Except ye be born of water and spirit is yet another. All these must be in the blessed who is created in our image and after our likeness. Adam after his fall created Sth in his image and in his likeness. Gen.5."

We can now " come boldly into the presence of God " where once only the high priest could but only once a year . But not without blood .

While we have that perfect liberty of children of God to enter His presence that does not mean without care or thought .

But we have all been guilty of rushing into prayer and " making our requests known" but with little or no thought as to who it is we are coming to .

But when Jesus taught his disciples how to pray he did not give them a formula but a pattern and before anything else it was the recognition and acknowledgement of Him who we are addressing .

He did not say 'my father' but OUR Father "

Not His Father but also ours . That OUR has also the embracing of the ONE body .For what is a brother or sister if not someone of the same household and of the same father . Then what is our " neighbour"? If not someone ,anyone of another household and of a different father .The church is not a ' community' it's a House a temple a body filly joined together into a Holy habitation of God .a local church is an embassy of the Kingdom of God and every true born child of God an ambassador for Christ .

Who seeks first before and above all the interests of the Kingdom of God and of Him who has sent us into this world but not of it even as He was sent by the Father and " was not of this world" .

Our Father ,now there is a thought inexhaustible in its ramifications .

Who art in heaven .

We need to stop and think . The approach to the Holy of Holies while straightforward still needed the right aproach .

We are on earth and Our Father is in heaven .

In the outer court we have the light of the sun and we see things by sight .

The Holy place has no ' natural' light . But that if the 7 branch oil lamp representing the Holy Spirit and the bread speaking of the Word of God .

In the outer court we walked by sight . In the Holy place we walk by faith and in constant prayer . Here we learn not to lean upon our own understanding.

Amen Lbooth1955.

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are SANCTIFIED, but ye are JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus, and BY THE SPIRIT OF OUR GOD.

1 Corinthians 6:10-11.

For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that ( HE IS ABLE TO KEEP THAT WHICH I HAVE COMMITTED UNTO HIM AGAINST THAT DAY. 2 Timothy 1:12

CHRIST HATH REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: Galatians 3:13.

And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby YE ARE SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION. Ephesians 4:30.

Blessings.

Correction" The text should read as Jn.11.25 "I am the Resurrection"

Jen.11.26 "I am the Resurrection" (4 of 4)

" Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live." Jesus knew where he came from and where he was going so we have the woman who 'hath done a good work' and it was a memeorial for her. " For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial./Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her."(Mt.26.12.13). Jesus was in human likeness and in his interaction with the world, very few had an inkiing as to what it signified, His burial and resurrection made the entire gospel narrative come a full circle. The Spirit sets prophet Ezekiel to enact it.

Each gospel holds a direction. "the house stood toward the east" second we have ' at the south side of the altar. third gospel, 'out of the way of the gate northward' leading back to the fourth. 'I am the life and resurrection' is no longer refers to the Son of man but the Word which was with. (Ezek.47.1-2)

' And, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward.' refers to the waters between heaven and the earth. It is the river from Eden flowing towards the east. (Gen.2.10). Ezekiel makes a complete turn and the river has become pure water of life. " And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river./Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other" 47.6-7) Of course the man that had the line in his hand measurement was 10x1000 which is under the law of sin and death. Jesus as the fulfilment of the Law has the single measurement which is in multiples of 12.

Jesus came into his own but was rejected. In his Advent Herod was guilty of the slaughter of innocents.Mt.2.17-18. Genocide in Gaza holds the other end.

"He took the bread and broke it"

The Word of God is both a seed and also bread .

If it is bread it needs to be broken before it can be digested .

If a seed it needs to sown and die before it produces fruit .

No bone of Jesus was broken on the cross but all His joints were out of joint .

Today the truth is out of joint . Or rather man subjecting the scriptures tomhis own reasoning rather than subjecting his reasoning to the Spirit of truth . For we have the body of truth which is the scriptures and the Spirit of truth that inspired men to so write them . We therefore need Him to " lead us into all truth " to understand what Hevinspured men to write .

For " what knoweth the things of man save the spirit that is in man? Likewise then what knoweth the things of God save the Spirit of God" with so many versions the people of God are " like sheep each going his own way".each holding tomtheir 'version' of the truth .

Is it any wonder the world is in such a state?

So to return to what you posted .

I don't know what you think by them. Or what I should understand by them if you do not break the bread? For while I cannot nor do reject the scriptures does not faith come by understanding?

How am Ito understand therefore what is written?

I could water so to speak those verses with my own thinking ;meaning endeavouring to understand with Gods help what I shouild glean from them for God would have it so with me as also with you .

Thus we all will be hopefully edified by every joint supplying .

God saves the soul quickens the spirit and our minds are to be renewed . Read once prayerfully think a lot more tends to do that aI have found .

Gerald

We have passed from judgement to life because of Calvary .

But there is still a judgement to come .

To the unrepentant sinner it is a judgement unto condemnation and damnation.

To a true born child of God it is at the judgement seat of Christ as to our works .

Of " what sort they are". Wood hay or stubble " that is of the flesh or of gold silver etc that which was spiritual not carnal .

For you cannot do in the flesh what God has ordained to be done in the Spirit .

Lot was as 'rich' as Abraham in the beginning so much so the land was not able to bare them without contentions. He chose according to what his eyes told him he walked by sight though counted righteous .

Abraham walked by faith .

In the end Lot lost all but the salvation of his soul " as through fire" .

" As in the days of Lot " said Jesus will be the coming of the Lord .

All men are 'religiously inclined' . The tragedy is man in of and by himself is not inclined towards God .

All men have faith for " God has given to every man a measure of faith to profit withal"

But not all men have their faith directed towards God .

Faith in God is not some mysterious 'other' faith to be strived for and grasped as if we had no faith but faith in God works in the same way and by the same principles that always has and people use every day of their lives.

Faith in God comes not just by hearing but understanding the Word of God .

Those who on the one hand speak of world faiths are not talking about faith at all but rather of vain and empty hopes that the scriptures says " will die with them".

And those who mock true Christian faith in fact undermine their own in whatever it is in .

But cannot undermine true Christian faith .

And while faith as small as a mustard seed can "move mountains" it is still expected to grow as our understanding or knowledge of Gods grows . "Little children " " Young men" to "Ye fathers you know Him who is from the beginning" Abrahams faith was not perfect in the beginning and a close look at his life will prove the case he too had to grow in grace and inthe knowledge of God .

The whole world is full of religion some of it called ' christian'. But of what seed is it? For the seed determines the fruit whatever 'religion' it is and by their fruits shall ye know them .

Transformation

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

The concept of Predestination places the initial work of salvation as a time when repentance is granted ( 2 Tim. 2:25 and several other passages); which is followed by sanctification. Some have said (in rather bad language form) that our "wanter" is changed.

The idea is that our desires IF saved become His desires; thus the struggle begins between the Spirit and the flesh.

Galatians 5:17-25

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

We also read in Ephesians 4:30

And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Again; I know this is a repeated theme on my part but we can't be grieving something we don't have; so that if there isn't a continuing process and desire to repent and change then sanctification is at question and we need to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5).

It's off to work I go.

Agape; RIch p

Man was created in the image of God but he is BORN in the image of the first Adam and was and is therefore by that nature "born in sin shapen in iniquity" the image of God is by that fall and because of sin so marred or lost it is o longer recognisable .

Jesus was and is the express image of the invisible God who was not created but BORN not of Adams seed but (therefore of the woman's seed) but of God . The only begotten Son of God .

Which is why all men " MUST be born again " it is not an option or a suggestion it is a divine commandment. Not if that corruptible seed but of the incorruptible seed which is the Word of God .

Jesus speaking of Himself said unless a seed of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone but if it dies it brings forth much fruit" what sort of fruit ? After its own kind .

For He the Son of God became the Son of Man that we the sons of men might through Him become the sons of God .

The image of God is thus restored .

It is worth noting that it was foretold of Him " that His visage was marred more than any other "

The repentant thief saw beyond that and saw not only a King but one who would conquer death to inherit it and was able if willing to save zHim also . The centurion in charge of the crucifixion who no doubt had seen many before this one and was quite hardened to it ,nevertheless was compelled to confess " surely this was the of God".

When a man stands before God and next finds himself in hell it will not be so much because they have sinned ( fir all have sinned) but because of their rejection of Christ and thus do not bare Gods image in them but rather the image of their true father .

And thus will reject them " I never knew you". And again if all of a persons life thry are saying " No God" ultimately thry are saying they are not a child of God . Then who's child are they?

For is it not written that not only is there the " seed of the woman" but also the " seed of the serpent ".

Thank you for your reply and it is a very sad thing that so many have laid aside the KJV . Having said that I must point out that the Lord had the most trouble with those who who's understanding of the Sabbath was at variance with the truth . That alone while not conclusive shouid be a warning bell to one and to all .

Paul pointed out that if one person held one day as Holy unto the Lord and another held all days Holy unto the Lord then let each be at peace with the other and let there be no contention . I therefore bring this up not for contention but for the truths sake .

While on the face of it your point about the commandment of the sabbath is sounds right ,there are too many other scriptures that you needs must reconcile with other than the ones you quoted .

A good concordance which will have all references to the sabbath will put the matter in its true light .

The Lord is my Sabbath . And are we not "to rest from our works even as God did from His "?

There is therefore a rest that the world does not know or can outside of Christ and it does not come by holding one day more than another for if a man holds that Saturday is the Sabbath in the UK what then of the man in another part of the world when it is not Saturday? Is he to be condemned because the sun has not risen on the same day as another.?

I am not questioning you love for the Lord nor would I seek to undermine it but the church of which I am a part is a body of many parts or members . That does not mean that we are to accept anything that a member might hold if it does not conform to " all scripture" But demonisations too often hold to parts of scripture but not all . You might reply that is what you said but as I have said before if you get a good concordance and look up sabbath then as all scripture is inspired by zGod and goid for correction reproof and instruction in righteousness etc then I'm sure He who so inspired what was written will faithfully give the understanding of it. GB

Jn 1.17 "Truth" (3 of 4)

There are many gospels extant but the spirit of truth chose only four as canonical. As the four horns of the golden altar the Word or the Law is same, east west north or south. The gospels are organised about Jesus Christ as the fulfilment of Law so the word of God establishes the truth. "I am the truth",

The Word was God sent his only Son 'in our image' so the Word establishes "I am the way' as true. The Lamb slain is an emblem of the divine Will. He is 'after our likeness' which gives the fulness of his godhead in his Son. " Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." Lowliness of a lamb given his accessories in terms of sevens when translated in terms of the spirit is 'after our likeness." It is synonymous for the poor in spirit. "I am life" Spirit of truth ( Jn 16.13)

Jesus Christ represents the Word was with God. So the law of the Spirit presents Jesus of Nazareth from four POV, the same narrative mode as in the book of the Revelation. How does seven Spirits of God begin unless they are sent forth? 'The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters' set apart sanctified ones before the worlds began. when Jesus said, 'Before Abraham was, I am." (Jn.8.58-59,45) The Jews would have stoned him because there was no place for the word in their hearts. Jesus tells the truth,"And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not." Yet we have imposters, false teachers trying make the truth a lie. Why one earth the true Light would compromise it for sons of perdition? "For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved./But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."( Jn 3.20-2)

All gospels agree in this: His death and resurrection. "And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone."(8.29)

Jn.1.17 "grace" (2 of 4)

Grace serves as verb to move holiness of God. It is how we are to look at the Father Son relationship. Gen.1.1 is not merely mercy of the Father resting with grace that his Son represented. "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich."2 Cor.8.9) By sending him to the world the Spirit is instructing us how the seven days in the Covenant rules the entire gospel narrative. Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. He was the word become flesh and to those whom God had foreknown he was full of glory,"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth. The poor in spirit could discern where he came from. In their faith he gave them power to become sons of God." Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."(Jn.1.11-15). Grace explains this empowerment, unmerited favour. God's mercy and grace of the Son were pure speech and it is called faith. "Kingdom of heaven is the gift of God to the poor in spirit.

This is a sign from the separation of waters. The river from Eden is the Mediator between waters above and waters below the firmament. Gen.2.10-14) John's gospel refers to the mercy of God, "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink./He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water./(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)" When Jesus worked with it we have grace. The living water became available for every believer and it connects us with the river of time. By his blood we are cleansed, and it is what the "pure river of water of life" indicates, It is clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb." Grace worked with the poor in spirit, that is all.

I ask that we pray for this nation pray God people pray day and night at the noon hour let us pray let us give thanks daily to our Lord and Savior Jesus let us praise our Heavenly Father let us praise him all day long one stops and another begins do this daily praise's our Heavenly Father please is the power of God

I ask the question, what have Jesus done why people don't believe in the son of God what have he done , all he ask is for us to live a holy life to be kind to one another to love each other to help each other to live with out hatred to treat others fairly what have Jesus done only thing I see is he died for us suffer for our sin , he was prosecuted, humiliated, beaten, cast off for you and me and you still don't believe Jesus is the son of God our creator our Heavenly Father .all he have done is to give us love peace hope joy kindness grace mercy and you choose to not serve him you choose to serve the devil false gods idols what have Jesus done butt give his life for me and you . There is a hell and a heaven were do you want to go , if it was up to man for you to wake up every morning do you think he would think enough about you to wake you up? wake up people and know Jesus is the son of God you have to except Jesus as your Lord and savior to be save all he is asking that you have the love of God in your heart to live a sinless life

Jn.1.17 "Grace" (1 of 4)

" For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."

This law gives us a context for the Advent of Jesus. Jesus of Nazareth under the care of his parents moved,from place to place,'To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.' Lk.2.5,24) Similarly observed the requirements of the law,' And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.' We see however a cut off period from parental custody which occurred at th age of 12. "And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?/And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them." What was this' my Father's business'? He was a son in humn likeness but also was the 'only begotten Son.' So he was a sign which we have in Gen.1.17-18."two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night" This is what set Jesus to begin his ministry." The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up./From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."(Mt.4.16-17) His father's business was to deliver the people from darkness. Darkness speaks of devil who sins from the beginning. Jesus was therefore manifested to destroy the works of the devil. ( 1 Jn 3.8) Law of Moses and how it served the people was condemnatory of the law. Jesus announced," I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." He represented the Law of the Spirit. He was a sign and not to be brushed as one of the Jews. He represented grace and truth. In flesh he belonged to the nation of Israel. In their hatred they showed who their father was." He came unto his own, and his own received him not./But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name"( Jn 1.11-13)

Amen Lbooth1955. You have encapsulated the whole doctrine of salvation, eternal security and rewards very well. As I read through your comment, my mind was turned to the great cost of our salvation. Not only was the full price paid for every sin that mankind has and could ever commit, but that the value of Christ's Sacrifice was beyond our human imagination or expectation.

When man who might be religiously inclined and introspective of his hopeless sinful condition, would very naturally do whatever he could to set his life aright and hope to please God, God saw that the sinner, though remorseful was incapable of paying that great price and was worthy only of death & eternal judgement. As Job rightly asked ( Job 14:4), "Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one."

God seeing that none were righteous, none were capable of pleasing Him by their efforts, and if His Love was to be fully demonstrated to the world, God Himself must step in to be the Sacrifice for no other payment could ever atone for our sins. Had Jesus, God's Word in Human form, failed at the many temptations pressing upon Him to fall as the first Adam fell, there remained no other way for the sinner to be redeemed to God, & upon believing, declared 'not guilty'; and we all would have our fate sealed, estranged from God forever.

God provided the only Sacrifice that could give full forgiveness, full redemption, and full acceptance - Himself. Blessings.

To all that be in Christ

Any thoughts?

Judged in Christ at the Cross (Salvation Settled)

The Bible teaches that the believer's sin, guilt, and condemnation were fully judged at Calvary when Christ bore the penalty on our behalf. This is the heart of the gospel Paul preached:

"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." ( 2 Cor. 5:21)

"Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification." ( Rom. 4:25)

"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus" ( Rom. 8:1)

In this sense, the believer's salvation has already been judged in Christ at the cross. God does not bring those in Christ into another judgment regarding eternal destiny. Their standing is secure because the full price has been paid.

Judgment Seat of Christ (Rewards, not Salvation)

The judgment seat of Christ is not about whether someone is saved or lost-it is about the believer's works, stewardship, and faithfulness after salvation:

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body" ( 2 Cor. 5:10)

"If any man's work abide he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." ( 1 Cor. 3:14-15)

This shows salvation is not on trial there-only works are tested for reward or loss.

judged once and forever in Christ.

This is about eternal salvation.

Judgment Seat of Christ: Concerns only the believer's service and labor. This is about reward, not salvation.

Great White Throne ( Rev. 20): Concerns the lost. This is about eternal condemnation.

Grace and Peace.

I agree with you also, that the KJV is the only bible to use. A few years ago, I read the Preface to one of the other bibles like the NIV. The group that put the bible together said in order to keep the peace among Christians they withheld information that was controversial. The KJV bible is very clear, even a child can understand it. Rev 22:14 KJV says "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city". Most of the other versions says: "Blessed are they that wash their robes." It's a completely different meaning than what God had intended. They are adding and taking away from God's word and will have to answer for it. They are baring false witness. Most of my friends use the NASB. They keep all 9 of God's 10 commandments and call themselves Christians. I keep all 10 Commandments including the only one God says to remember (the 7th day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God); They call me legalistic. The only difference between me and them is I love the Lord with all my heart, soul and mind. I have surrendered my life to God every morning and ask Him to sit on the throne of my life at all times. I take to heart where God says: "If you love Me keep My commandments." "If you say you love Me and do not keep My commandments, you are a liar." In Rev 21:8 liars will be thrown in to the lake of fire in the end. God is serious when He says something. It only took one bite from the apple back in the garden of Eden.